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(BBC)   Alzheimer's can now be detected up to 25 years before onset, giving plenty of time for insurance companies to find a loophole so that they can drop you. Still no cure for wossname, er thingy   (bbc.co.uk) divider line 40
    More: Interesting, Alzheimer's Disease, key changes, memory losses, Washington University School of Medicine, Alzheimer's Society, New England Journal of Medicine  
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2012-07-12 10:53:20 PM  
I'll spare everybody the "what was I saying" joke and posit an idea: Start a business that organizes a persons life, long before onset and with their hands-on assistance, in a way that they know they'll understand. Maybe a morning flash card routine, tattoos of important people on their bodies, and polaroids with crude notes on them to remind them who to trust and who to not.
 
2012-07-13 12:00:33 AM  

jaylectricity: I'll spare everybody the "what was I saying" joke and posit an idea: Start a business that organizes a persons life, long before onset and with their hands-on assistance, in a way that they know they'll understand. Maybe a morning flash card routine, tattoos of important people on their bodies, and polaroids with crude notes on them to remind them who to trust and who to not.


Or......you know.......soylent green!
 
2012-07-13 12:13:38 AM  
Um
Subtard?
You KNOW how we know that you are a complete and total tard?
ACA is the law.

So how exactly would they DROP you???
Bwahahahahahahahahahahahaa

/there really should be a voter test about ACA. If you can not answer 3 out 10 questions correctly, they will drop you from the voting rolls.
/bwahahahahahaah
 
2012-07-13 12:24:31 AM  
I see what you did there, subby (and I'm very very sad)
 
2012-07-13 12:29:41 AM  
upload.wikimedia.org

We needed that test back in '55
 
2012-07-13 12:32:41 AM  
Ok... now lets come up with a test that doesn't involve sticking a 20 gauge 4in needle into someones spine.
 
2012-07-13 12:36:44 AM  
Good god, why would you want to know? I know that Alzheimer's is in my family and that makes it at risk for it, but the last thing I would want is to confirm it and have that hanging over my head.
 
2012-07-13 12:37:21 AM  
I'd rather not know.
 
2012-07-13 12:55:10 AM  

Crudbucket: Good god, why would you want to know? I know that Alzheimer's is in my family and that makes it at risk for it, but the last thing I would want is to confirm it and have that hanging over my head.


Wasn't there an article a month or so ago that said scientists may have found inroads to treat/prevent alzheimers? If they get that figured out, I'd like to be able to get treatment before the onset of the disease.
 
2012-07-13 12:59:18 AM  

jaylectricity: I'll spare everybody the "what was I saying" joke and posit an idea: Start a business that organizes a persons life, long before onset and with their hands-on assistance, in a way that they know they'll understand. Maybe a morning flash card routine, tattoos of important people on their bodies, and polaroids with crude notes on them to remind them who to trust and who to not.


Would you be happy if you banged Carrie Ann Moss, but then you were cursed to forget it forever?
 
2012-07-13 01:05:51 AM  

Trocadero: jaylectricity: I'll spare everybody the "what was I saying" joke and posit an idea: Start a business that organizes a persons life, long before onset and with their hands-on assistance, in a way that they know they'll understand. Maybe a morning flash card routine, tattoos of important people on their bodies, and polaroids with crude notes on them to remind them who to trust and who to not.

Would you be happy if you banged Carrie Ann Moss, but then you were cursed to forget it forever?


Would there be video proof?
 
2012-07-13 01:11:29 AM  

ApatheticMonkey: Crudbucket: Good god, why would you want to know? I know that Alzheimer's is in my family and that makes it at risk for it, but the last thing I would want is to confirm it and have that hanging over my head.

Wasn't there an article a month or so ago that said scientists may have found inroads to treat/prevent alzheimers? If they get that figured out, I'd like to be able to get treatment before the onset of the disease.


If they actually come up with a viable cure, that'd be a different story. The treatments they have now mostly just mask the symptoms (anxiety or violent outbursts as you feel your mind slipping away) so you're easier for caretakers to deal with or they prolong your mental degradation over a longer period. If I were to get Alzheimer's, I'd want it to hit immediately. Go to bed me, wake up a gibbering mess the next morning ready to be shipped off to a home.
 
2012-07-13 01:13:53 AM  

jaylectricity: I'll spare everybody the "what was I saying" joke and posit an idea: Start a business that organizes a persons life, long before onset and with their hands-on assistance, in a way that they know they'll understand. Maybe a morning flash card routine, tattoos of important people on their bodies, and polaroids with crude notes on them to remind them who to trust and who to not.


And if the client was an asshole you could come back later and tattoo "John G raped and murdered my wife find him and kill him" backwards across his chest so it's the first thing he sees every morning while brushing his teeth. Everyone that's ever worked in customer service would idolize you.
 
2012-07-13 01:22:53 AM  
Oh well, at least I don't have cancer, Doc!
 
2012-07-13 01:23:04 AM  
What? Not thingy!

upload.wikimedia.org
 
2012-07-13 01:55:43 AM  
Huh. There's a stick-note on my monitor that reads, "You've got Alzheimer's!"

Where did that come from?
 
2012-07-13 01:57:54 AM  

Crudbucket: ApatheticMonkey: Crudbucket: Good god, why would you want to know? I know that Alzheimer's is in my family and that makes it at risk for it, but the last thing I would want is to confirm it and have that hanging over my head.

Wasn't there an article a month or so ago that said scientists may have found inroads to treat/prevent alzheimers? If they get that figured out, I'd like to be able to get treatment before the onset of the disease.

If they actually come up with a viable cure, that'd be a different story. The treatments they have now mostly just mask the symptoms (anxiety or violent outbursts as you feel your mind slipping away) so you're easier for caretakers to deal with or they prolong your mental degradation over a longer period. If I were to get Alzheimer's, I'd want it to hit immediately. Go to bed me, wake up a gibbering mess the next morning ready to be shipped off to a home.


They're pretty sure they understand what is causing it(the amyloid plaque in the brain, which this study supports), now it's just a matter of figuring out how to make the treatment work(so far it hasn't, but studies like this mean more money invested in that avenue).
 
2012-07-13 02:54:04 AM  
i291.photobucket.com
 
2012-07-13 03:15:00 AM  

jaylectricity: I'll spare everybody the "what was I saying" joke and posit an idea: Start a business that organizes a persons life, long before onset and with their hands-on assistance, in a way that they know they'll understand. Maybe a morning flash card routine, tattoos of important people on their bodies, and polaroids with crude notes on them to remind them who to trust and who to not.


I know this is a Memento thing, but today you could probably accomplish all that with a smartphone. Maybe attached with a wrist strap so you can't lose it.
 
2012-07-13 03:28:45 AM  

fusillade762: jaylectricity: I'll spare everybody the "what was I saying" joke and posit an idea: Start a business that organizes a persons life, long before onset and with their hands-on assistance, in a way that they know they'll understand. Maybe a morning flash card routine, tattoos of important people on their bodies, and polaroids with crude notes on them to remind them who to trust and who to not.

I know this is a Memento thing, but today you could probably accomplish all that with a smartphone. Maybe attached with a wrist strap so you can't lose it.


Yeah, but what would actually happen is you wake up and say, "Where the hell am I and what is this thing strapped to my wrist?" No one will say, "Oh that's right, I have Alzheimer's so I need to do what this says." Mental illness isn't something you can snap out of.
 
2012-07-13 03:29:04 AM  

Mr. Potatoass: [upload.wikimedia.org image 220x275]

We needed that test back in '55


1955 has all the Ronald Reagan density it can handle. I mean, destiny.
4.bp.blogspot.com
 
2012-07-13 04:06:44 AM  

pizen: Trocadero: jaylectricity: I'll spare everybody the "what was I saying" joke and posit an idea: Start a business that organizes a persons life, long before onset and with their hands-on assistance, in a way that they know they'll understand. Maybe a morning flash card routine, tattoos of important people on their bodies, and polaroids with crude notes on them to remind them who to trust and who to not.

Would you be happy if you banged Carrie Ann Moss, but then you were cursed to forget it forever?

Would there be video proof?


Good lord, who would want to see that? Carrie Ann Moss is a hag of the highest order.
 
2012-07-13 04:18:46 AM  

Crudbucket: fusillade762: jaylectricity: I'll spare everybody the "what was I saying" joke and posit an idea: Start a business that organizes a persons life, long before onset and with their hands-on assistance, in a way that they know they'll understand. Maybe a morning flash card routine, tattoos of important people on their bodies, and polaroids with crude notes on them to remind them who to trust and who to not.

I know this is a Memento thing, but today you could probably accomplish all that with a smartphone. Maybe attached with a wrist strap so you can't lose it.

Yeah, but what would actually happen is you wake up and say, "Where the hell am I and what is this thing strapped to my wrist?" No one will say, "Oh that's right, I have Alzheimer's so I need to do what this says." Mental illness isn't something you can snap out of.


Not saying it is. Simply countering the whole tattoo/polaroid/post-it approach with modern technology.
 
2012-07-13 05:44:19 AM  
We cool, bro.
 
2012-07-13 07:00:16 AM  

fusillade762: Crudbucket: fusillade762: jaylectricity: I'll spare everybody the "what was I saying" joke and posit an idea: Start a business that organizes a persons life, long before onset and with their hands-on assistance, in a way that they know they'll understand. Maybe a morning flash card routine, tattoos of important people on their bodies, and polaroids with crude notes on them to remind them who to trust and who to not.

I know this is a Memento thing, but today you could probably accomplish all that with a smartphone. Maybe attached with a wrist strap so you can't lose it.

Yeah, but what would actually happen is you wake up and say, "Where the hell am I and what is this thing strapped to my wrist?" No one will say, "Oh that's right, I have Alzheimer's so I need to do what this says." Mental illness isn't something you can snap out of.

Not saying it is. Simply countering the whole tattoo/polaroid/post-it approach with modern technology.



www.askdavetaylor.com
;=)
 
2012-07-13 07:26:46 AM  

namatad: Um
Subtard?
You KNOW how we know that you are a complete and total tard?
ACA is the law.

So how exactly would they DROP you???
Bwahahahahahahahahahahahaa

/there really should be a voter test about ACA. If you can not answer 3 out 10 questions correctly, they will drop you from the voting rolls.
/bwahahahahahaah


Don't be so harsh. Maybe subby has the Alzheimer's.
 
2012-07-13 08:12:41 AM  
failfun.com
 
2012-07-13 08:20:31 AM  

namatad: Um
Subtard?
You KNOW how we know that you are a complete and total tard?
ACA is the law.

So how exactly would they DROP you???
Bwahahahahahahahahahahahaa

/there really should be a voter test about ACA. If you can not answer 3 out 10 questions correctly, they will drop you from the voting rolls.
/bwahahahahahaah


What is this ACA of which you speak?
 
2012-07-13 09:09:05 AM  
My grandfather, great-grandfather, and probably others on my dad's side all had Alzheimer's. I don't think I need the test. I need the cure... in about, oh, fifty years or so.
 
2012-07-13 09:13:07 AM  
It would be worth getting the test if I can prevent my insurance company from finding out. Which means paying for it with cash and not sharing that information with my Dr. My father died of it at the age of 62, so I feel a bit concerned.

But you would be totally screwed if your insurance company found out. No concrete legal protections for patients even with the ACA law, half the US still wants to do away with that law which means too much uncertainty to trust sharing that with your doctor.
 
2012-07-13 09:42:15 AM  

Snapper Carr: I see what you did there, subby (and I'm very very sad)


Likewise. It is surprisingly dusty in here, and not for the first time about this subject. Terry Pratchett's one of my favorite authors of all time, and seeing his troubles has been pretty rough - he's a hero of mine.

http://youtu.be/n2FZ_0d3yEI

http://youtu.be/Z44ip5kYQ8w

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=slZnfC-V1SY

My grandmother suffers from dementia - it's pretty rough to see. She remembers the past just fine, but her short-term memory is not very good, and she pretty much loops her conversation every ten or fifteen minutes, talking about the same thing.
 
2012-07-13 09:43:12 AM  
Thanks NOBAMACARE!
 
2012-07-13 09:52:52 AM  

SteelDraco: Likewise. It is surprisingly dusty in here, and not for the first time about this subject. Terry Pratchett's one of my favorite authors of all time, and seeing his troubles has been pretty rough - he's a hero of mine.

http://youtu.be/n2FZ_0d3yEI

http://youtu.be/Z44ip5kYQ8w

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=slZnfC-V1SY



Check out this one as well.
 
2012-07-13 10:05:38 AM  

Boatmech: fusillade762: Crudbucket: fusillade762: jaylectricity: I'll spare everybody the "what was I saying" joke and posit an idea: Start a business that organizes a persons life, long before onset and with their hands-on assistance, in a way that they know they'll understand. Maybe a morning flash card routine, tattoos of important people on their bodies, and polaroids with crude notes on them to remind them who to trust and who to not.

I know this is a Memento thing, but today you could probably accomplish all that with a smartphone. Maybe attached with a wrist strap so you can't lose it.

Yeah, but what would actually happen is you wake up and say, "Where the hell am I and what is this thing strapped to my wrist?" No one will say, "Oh that's right, I have Alzheimer's so I need to do what this says." Mental illness isn't something you can snap out of.

Not saying it is. Simply countering the whole tattoo/polaroid/post-it approach with modern technology.



;=)


I know lots of people who talk out of their asses, but none who talk out of their ears. Is Siri just messing with the oldtimers now?

/who are you people and why are you in my room?
 
2012-07-13 10:56:00 AM  

FuturePastNow: I don't think I need the test. I need the cure... in about, oh, fifty years or so.


BigLuca: Ok... now lets come up with a test that doesn't involve sticking a 20 gauge 4in needle into someones spine.


meat0918: I'd rather not know.


The test is part of the cure. You have to detect before too much damage is caused. If you wait to become symptomatic, your brain is already trashed. So you'd want to know.

The gene for early onset Alzheimer's runs in my wife's family and my wife has participated in this study.
 
2012-07-13 01:53:12 PM  

Crudbucket: Good god, why would you want to know? I know that Alzheimer's is in my family and that makes it at risk for it, but the last thing I would want is to confirm it and have that hanging over my head.


It would be upsetting at first, but you would eventually forget about it.
 
2012-07-13 02:02:52 PM  

SteelDraco: My grandmother suffers from dementia - it's pretty rough to see. She remembers the past just fine, but her short-term memory is not very good, and she pretty much loops her conversation every ten or fifteen minutes, talking about the same thing.


What's her Fark handle?

j/k, lots of people in my family have had Alzheimer's. I know it's hard on everyone involved. 3 out of my 4 grandparents had it, so at least one of my parents will probably get it, too. Then, as the cherry on this crappy sundae, I probably will get it, too. Yay us for having long-life genes, but not long-memory genes!
 
2012-07-13 02:31:12 PM  

Nem Wan: Mr. Potatoass: [upload.wikimedia.org image 220x275]

We needed that test back in '55

1955 has all the Ronald Reagan density it can handle. I mean, destiny.
[4.bp.blogspot.com image 223x226]


That's heavy, Doc.
 
2012-07-13 03:16:28 PM  

bartink: The test is part of the cure. You have to detect before too much damage is caused. If you wait to become symptomatic, your brain is already trashed. So you'd want to know.


Indeed.

So far there are only two mild effectors re: Alzheimer's that I'm aware of: Doing new things (brain stimulation) and caffeine (cerebralspinal fluid pressure thingy?).
 
2012-07-13 03:56:41 PM  

Tillmaster: namatad: Um
Subtard?
You KNOW how we know that you are a complete and total tard?
ACA is the law.
So how exactly would they DROP you???
Bwahahahahahahahahahahahaa
/there really should be a voter test about ACA. If you can not answer 3 out 10 questions correctly, they will drop you from the voting rolls.
/bwahahahahahaah
What is this ACA of which you speak?


ACA = American Cornhole Assoc.
 
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