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(Huffington Post)   NAACP official: "They are bringing people in that they know will support his agenda from other places that aren't active with the NAACP. These are people that were actually brought in to provide the cheering for him"   (huffingtonpost.com) divider line 45
    More: Obvious, Mitt Romney, NAACP, Ed Schultz, civil rights, rank-and-file, African-American VIPs  
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2012-07-12 04:22:25 PM
6 votes:
gerrymander: Is the assertion here that if they're not active in the organization, that somehow makes them not black? Or is it that the votes for Romney-supporting African-Americans don't count? Ooh, there's a slogan for you:

The assertion is that Romney attempted to stack the deck by bringing in people who would cheer for him no matter what and that those people aren't members or supporters of the NAACP, in order to make it appear that the NAACP supported him.

It's also awesome how you answered your own question in order to play the race card, though.
2012-07-12 06:33:57 PM
4 votes:
Afroturfing?
2012-07-12 07:14:53 PM
3 votes:
Must kind of suck to be so unpopular that you have to hire people to cheer for you.
2012-07-12 07:58:17 PM
2 votes:
You know who else imported people?

i404.photobucket.com
2012-07-12 07:36:58 PM
2 votes:
colon_pow: everyone knows that blacks all vote the same and any cheering for romney was just a stunt.

this is what liberals actually believe.


Give it up man... you don't have a clue what liberals believe. The FACT (which is true whether you choose to believe it or not) is that most blacks vote Democratic... why? Because Republicans adopted the Southern Strategy and embraced the more racist elements of our population. Most people will not vote for someone whom they know discriminates against them.

... but do carry on, you willfully ignorant ass.
2012-07-12 07:36:40 PM
2 votes:
gerrymander: Is the assertion here that if they're not active in the organization, that somehow makes them not black? Or is it that the votes for Romney-supporting African-Americans don't count? Ooh, there's a slogan for you:



You missed (hah) the important part of the story:

'Shelton told Ed Schultz on MSNBC Wednesday night that Romney flew in supporters to Houston to applaud him at the civil rights group's annual convention.

"The campaign actually gave me a list of African-American VIPs that they brought in to the NAACP meeting," Shelton told Schultz. "So, I'm sure those are the ones they sat down with because, quite frankly, none of the rank-and-file NAACPers met with him."

After the speech, Romney said that he had African-American supporters at the convention who spoke with him privately and expressed their support.'

So what they did was, bring in some supportive people to a conference with a very large number of people already there, arranged for him to do a private meet and greet with the people he had brought in specifically for that purpose (ignoring the actual attendees), then announce that he had had private talks with supportive people at the conference. If you don't think that that is completely bent then you have no ethics at all.
2012-07-12 06:31:09 PM
2 votes:
Y'know, this kinda ruins that whole "I meant for them to boo me" excuse of his.
2012-07-12 04:24:07 PM
2 votes:
Color me shocked.

Ok, seriously though, fark Romney for astroturfing. I say this as someone who used to astroturf for local Republicans.
2012-07-13 01:59:42 PM
1 votes:
I sound fat: Sabyen91: i sound fat should change his name to i sound motherfarkingstupid

Way to refute anything I said.

/ you are still my only marked favorite. you should be proud.


Why would anyone want to refute something so easily dismissed?

Also, you must be a masochist if you favorite someone who would school you that dead on.
2012-07-13 10:13:00 AM
1 votes:
DancingElkCondor: George Zimmerman of racism....capping Trayvon Martin, when Martin was attacking him...

So it turns out that when the FBI says the murder was probably motivated by a hero complex and not racism, that means it's automatically self-defence

Ladies and gentlemen, the mind of a conservative.
2012-07-13 08:49:23 AM
1 votes:
Dr. Mojo PhD: I sound fat reads a simile as an equivalence (the one thing a similie cannot be, as there must be a difference in the two unlike things); promptly blames liberals for his ignorance.


"Life is like an onion: You peel it off one layer at a time, and sometimes you weep."
(Carl Sandburg) I sound fat logic: Human life = an onion.

Shrek: Ogres are like onions.
Donkey: They stink?
Shrek: Yes. No!
Donkey: They make you cry?
Shrek: No!
Donkey: You leave them out in the sun, they get all brown, start sprouting little white hairs.
Shrek: No! Layers! Onions have layers!
(Shrek, 2001) I sound fat logic: Ogre = an onion.

"The interior of the Earth is rather like an onion, made up of a series of concentric shells or layers."
(Martin Redfern, The Earth: A Very Short Introduction. 2003) I sound fat logic: The Earth = an onion.

"Liberals believe that Racism is much like an onion, composed of many layers which [they] must continuously strive to "shed" throughout their lives -- whether or not they consciously see themselves as racists." (Ryan O'Donnell, The Corporate Diversity Scam. 2003) I sound fat logic: Racism = an onion.

Therefore, at a minimum by his logic, Racism, The Earth, Ogres, and Human life are all equivalent. I'm certain the number of equivalent things I sound fat could find using his logic would be quite large since there are so many similes where an onion is one of the two explicitly unlike things compared.
2012-07-13 08:10:01 AM
1 votes:
I sound fat: jodaveki: Romney stumping at the NAACP is like telling the help that working at the country club is like having a membership. Get real.

Yet another one. Now you farkers are saying that black people = the help at the country club. Do you liberals have no shame?


I sound fat reads a simile as an equivalence (the one thing a similie cannot be, as there must be a difference in the two unlike things); promptly blames liberals for his ignorance.

I sound fat skims right by colon_pow, a conservative, literally calling people trying to get companies to hire black people above more than mere 'help' a shakedown. Says nothing.

The mind of a conservative, ladies and gentlemen.
2012-07-13 03:32:32 AM
1 votes:
i sound fat should change his name to i sound motherfarkingstupid
2012-07-13 02:21:20 AM
1 votes:
I sound fat: How do you sleep at night with all this racist hatred in you hearts, libs?

Enjoy the next 4 years with Obama in the White House, 'k?

I'm sure you'll be looking forward to it.
2012-07-13 12:00:07 AM
1 votes:
25.media.tumblr.com
It definitely isn't enough....................................how much did this fool say he'd pay us?
2012-07-12 09:28:11 PM
1 votes:
Reverend Monkeypants: You should witness a Romney media event first hand.

In New Hampshire they practically cleared the entire room and stuffed it full of paid supporters. We got kicked out because we looked like we'd ask some pointy questions.

They were right, we would have.


Here's where I'd like to introduce one of my favorite words: claquers, from the days when French opera singers and actors would pay people to sit in the audience and applaud madly whenever the artist performed a particularly flashy turn on stage.

This tells you everything you need to know about the GOP: they know their ideas are so rancid that they have to hire stooges to give them the appearance of support.
2012-07-12 09:12:56 PM
1 votes:
Today:

colon_pow:
liberals believe they can speak for the entire black population and tell us what they think and how they feel and what's best for them.

you carry on too, you patronizing puke.


March:

colon_pow:
rynthetyn: My sister has an elderly friend who worked with Saul Alinsky in Rochester in the effort to get Eastman Kodak to agree to hire African Americans as more than just janitors (Kodak refused to hire black people to operate the machines because they thought that black people were too stupid to do anything other than sweeping floors). You know who else came to Rochester to support that effort? Then presidential candidate George Romney.

was jesse jackson there? he specializes in those sort of shake-downs.


Equal rights for blacks is a "shakedown".
Pointing out Obama got 96% of the black vote is "telling black people what they believe".

Yes, an open, honest-to-God racist who thinks that trying to show companies that black people are not genetically stupid is a bad thing literally -- LITERALLY -- just called anybody who points to the Southern Strategy as the verifiable point in history where the Republicans lost the black vote as a "patronizing puke".

Bonus points: A bonafide black man like Jesse Jackson promoting equal hiring practices is a shakedown, but it's totally not colon_pow telling us "what's best for them" (you know, staying in jobs as janitors).

Also on this day in history:

colon_pow: a woman is just a life-support system for her pussy.

Tomorrow he'll be raging about how Democratic men are patronizing to women by thinking that if men can have vasectomies, pharmacists should not have an "option" not to fill women's prescriptions for birth control -- it's equal rights, so that's a shakedown too.
2012-07-12 08:31:28 PM
1 votes:
colon_pow: liberals believe they can speak for the entire black population and tell us what they think and how they feel and what's best for them.

Damn, we can do that?? Quick, someone tell them to stop opposing same-sex marriage!
2012-07-12 08:10:16 PM
1 votes:
tenpoundsofcheese: Considering he got a standing ovation after his speech, Romney did well.

That's called a "Thank God this over" round of applause.
2012-07-12 08:09:45 PM
1 votes:
colon_pow: everyone knows that blacks all vote the same and any cheering for romney was just a stunt.

this is what liberals actually believe.
do carry on, you patronizing pukes.
and have a nice day.


I know they all look alike to you, but the point of the story was that lifetime members of the NAACP noticed a conveniently timed surge of new faces at one of their meetings.
2012-07-12 08:08:08 PM
1 votes:
Lt. Cheese Weasel: So Romney hired black people to boo him so as to disenfranchise black people and garner support from white people but the black people he hired then stood and cheered at the end of the speech, so it's obvious those weren't REAL black people and now white people hate him and Romney is loved by REAL black people for disenfranchising the white people. It's a clever plan. But the white community isn't going to stand for these shenannigans and will not vote for Obama because he loves white people who hate those black people but love REAL black people

Liberal derp is farking amazing.


i293.photobucket.com
2012-07-12 08:03:03 PM
1 votes:
Lt. Cheese Weasel: So Romney hired black people to boo him so as to disenfranchise black people and garner support from white people but the black people he hired then stood and cheered at the end of the speech, so it's obvious those weren't REAL black people and now white people hate him and Romney is loved by REAL black people for disenfranchising the white people. It's a clever plan. But the white community isn't going to stand for these shenannigans and will not vote for Obama because he loves white people who hate those black people but love REAL black people

Liberal derp is farking amazing.


No offense, but holy f%@k are you stupid.
2012-07-12 08:01:39 PM
1 votes:
Lt. Cheese Weasel: So Romney hired black people to boo him

This is where I stopped reading. It is clear you don't understand at all that nobody is claiming he hired people to boo him.
2012-07-12 08:01:32 PM
1 votes:
Lt. Cheese Weasel: So Romney hired black people to boo him so as to disenfranchise black people and garner support from white people but the black people he hired then stood and cheered at the end of the speech, so it's obvious those weren't REAL black people and now white people hate him and Romney is loved by REAL black people for disenfranchising the white people. It's a clever plan. But the white community isn't going to stand for these shenannigans and will not vote for Obama because he loves white people who hate those black people but love REAL black people

Liberal derp is farking amazing.


Um nobody said this. I think you just out-derped yourself.
2012-07-12 08:00:38 PM
1 votes:
Lt. Cheese Weasel: So Romney hired black people to boo him so as to disenfranchise black people and garner support from white people but the black people he hired then stood and cheered at the end of the speech, so it's obvious those weren't REAL black people and now white people hate him and Romney is loved by REAL black people for disenfranchising the white people. It's a clever plan. But the white community isn't going to stand for these shenannigans and will not vote for Obama because he loves white people who hate those black people but love REAL black people

Liberal derp is farking amazing.


gallery.photo.net

WTF AM I READING?
2012-07-12 07:52:53 PM
1 votes:
Lt. Cheese Weasel: [profile.ak.fbcdn.net image 200x167]

These aren't the black people we are looking for. I mean yes, they WERE black, but not black. See?

Wut?


We are the paid NCAAP non-members trying help Romney change people's perception through a lie.
2012-07-12 07:51:24 PM
1 votes:
colon_pow: liberals believe they can speak for the entire black population and tell us what they think and how they feel and what's best for them.

Is that what FOX news told you to say?
2012-07-12 07:50:33 PM
1 votes:
profile.ak.fbcdn.net

These aren't the black people we are looking for. I mean yes, they WERE black, but not black. See?

Wut?
2012-07-12 07:49:51 PM
1 votes:
LargeCanine: nyseattitude: LargeCanine: Romney hit a home run at the NAACP. Now desperate Democrats rationalize and change the subject.

I'm Undeclared, you are a delusional idiot.

Sure you are.


Have been since I was 18. I do understand some people call me a "lib" though. That doesn't make me one, nor does my refusal to eat from the lunatic nutbag trough, buy into wild conspiracy's, regurgitate talking points or act like an Authoritarian puppet voting against my own interests. I see no reason to subscribe to side "A" or side "B". However, I can tell the difference between George Zimmerman and Charles Manson and one is not like the other.
2012-07-12 07:46:14 PM
1 votes:
colon_pow: JohnnyC: colon_pow: everyone knows that blacks all vote the same and any cheering for romney was just a stunt.

this is what liberals actually believe.

Give it up man... you don't have a clue what liberals believe. The FACT (which is true whether you choose to believe it or not) is that most blacks vote Democratic... why? Because Republicans adopted the Southern Strategy and embraced the more racist elements of our population. Most people will not vote for someone whom they know discriminates against them.

... but do carry on, you willfully ignorant ass.

liberals believe they can speak for the entire black population and tell us what they think and how they feel and what's best for them.

you carry on too, you patronizing puke.


Hear that, black people?

/vote Republican
2012-07-12 07:38:16 PM
1 votes:
gaspode: If you don't think that that is completely bent then you have no ethics at all.

Whoever said he had any ethics? Quit making things up.
2012-07-12 07:32:02 PM
1 votes:
ib_thinkin: Can't lie: if he paid me, I'd cheer, too.

Why? Just take the money and then don't cheer for him. Unless the guy doesn't pay up front and has some way of knowing who cheered and didn't cheer, there's no reason you can't take his money AND avoid compromising your values.
2012-07-12 07:26:13 PM
1 votes:
What are you going to do, though? Are you going to stay home and not vote? The entirety of politics today is to discourage the opposition from voting.

I'm old, white, and mostly stupid. I'm going to vote Democratic this time. A bunch of awful fiends got together and took control of the Republic party. Well I don't have any power over that. What I can do is vote Democratic this time. Let them speak their evil words, their awful and stupid words, and let them all look foolish. I'll just vote Democratic.
2012-07-12 07:22:48 PM
1 votes:
Republicans...bussing people in to support them? Can't be. I think I remember hearing something like this before. It was tea something...tea porters...was that it? And they were going to townhall meetings to do something. Yell a lot, I think. Ah, I'm sure its all just a coincidence.
2012-07-12 07:20:03 PM
1 votes:
To be fair, they were told the Decemberists would be playing after the speech.
2012-07-12 07:11:12 PM
1 votes:
BojanglesPaladin: Don't Troll Me Bro!: gerrymander: Is the assertion here that if they're not active in the organization, that somehow makes them not black?

No. Where do you even come up with this bullshiat?

Or is it that the votes for Romney-supporting African-Americans don't count?

Again, no. Again, where do you even come up with this bullshiat?

In fairness, the NAACP person did seem to be clearly stating that support for Romney and support for the NAACP are at least somewhat mutually exclusive. Since apparantly "No true scotsman" would support Romney.


That is not "in fairness". This was a speech to the NAACP. Romney hired people that apparently weren't in the NAACP to cheer for him.
2012-07-12 07:05:41 PM
1 votes:
gerrymander: The NAACP doesn't position itself as representing some liberal blacks. It advances (heh) itself as a representative of all blacks in America.

The NAACP positions itself as representing those who wish for 'Colored People' to Advance. Make Progress.

Progress ≐ Progressive ≐ Liberal ≐ Democrat

The NAACP does not position itself as a representative of all blacks in America.

From their website:

"Since 1941 the NAACP has been the premier civil rights advocacy entity on Capitol Hill. The NAACP was a leading force behind the enactment of the 1964 Civil Rights Act, the 1965 Voting Rights Act, the 1968 Fair Housing Act, the 1991 Civil Rights Restoration Act and the 2002 Help America Vote Act, the most current reauthorization of the Voting Rights Act among countless others. "

But there you go, putting race first.
2012-07-12 07:00:28 PM
1 votes:
Now I see how Rmoney knew they were gonna boo him. He hired them.
2012-07-12 06:55:20 PM
1 votes:
Mentat: gerrymander: Is the assertion here that if they're not active in the organization, that somehow makes them not black? Or is it that the votes for Romney-supporting African-Americans don't count? Ooh, there's a slogan for you:

"Meet the NEW NAACP -- Proudly representing 3/5ths of the black community!"

/Remind me again how they're not racists?

Don't worry sweetie. The GOP will take you back to the 50's any day now.


Problem. They want it to be the 1750s.
2012-07-12 06:52:39 PM
1 votes:
Triumph: But wait - Lawrence O'Donnell said the idea was to intentionally get boo'ed to help shore up the support of racists. I'm so confused now.

As an uber libby super lib that libs all the lib long day, I tell you that Lawrence O'Donnel is a smug jackwagon that should never have been given a show. Don't listen to him, he's a jerk.
2012-07-12 06:50:05 PM
1 votes:
But wait - Lawrence O'Donnell said the idea was to intentionally get boo'ed to help shore up the support of racists. I'm so confused now.
2012-07-12 06:49:44 PM
1 votes:
gerrymander: But that gets us back to my point. The NAACP doesn't position itself as representing some liberal blacks. It advances (heh) itself as a representative of all blacks in America. Complaining that Romney brought his own support directly undermines that presentation. It's an outright admission that "we don't associate with those people" is a valid form of discrimination -- ironic, considering the source.

No, it means Romney is trying to play both sides. He made his comments to the NAACP so that it would look to his base like he was standing up to the organization while at the same time bringing in ringers to make it look like the NAACP was supporting him.
2012-07-12 06:02:36 PM
1 votes:
gerrymander: Is the assertion here that if they're not active in the organization, that somehow makes them not black?

No. it's not.
2012-07-12 06:00:39 PM
1 votes:
Well, Romney did say he had secret black supporters.

Turns out there's a good reason they're secret: he hired them.
2012-07-12 04:23:56 PM
1 votes:
Aarontology: gerrymander: Is the assertion here that if they're not active in the organization, that somehow makes them not black? Or is it that the votes for Romney-supporting African-Americans don't count? Ooh, there's a slogan for you:

The assertion is that Romney attempted to stack the deck by bringing in people who would cheer for him no matter what and that those people aren't members or supporters of the NAACP, in order to make it appear that the NAACP supported him.

It's also awesome how you answered your own question in order to play the race card, though.


Aren't victimized whiteys a peach?
 
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