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(Consumer Traveler)   The worst thing about the airlines aren't the cramped seating, long delays, or lost luggage. It's the people on the planes. "Many passengers book flights knowing full well they will have problems"   (consumertraveler.com) divider line 128
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2012-07-12 02:20:24 PM
But high-speed rail? That shiat's just crazy!
 
2012-07-12 02:34:36 PM
Don't expect good service from people who have sh*tty jobs.
 
2012-07-12 03:09:33 PM
Here's a hint that you'll have problems: you book a flight with Spirit Air.
 
2012-07-12 03:12:31 PM

Marcus Aurelius: Here's a hint that you'll have problems: you book a flight with Spirit Air.


Problems with airplanes/airports/the TSA aren't new. At this point, people are wandering like lemmings into it.
 
2012-07-12 03:18:33 PM
Before the flight, she argued with Spirit counter clerks when she learned she had to pay $18 more so her 5-year-old son wouldn't have to sit by himself. When she said she was scared of pedophiles, the fee was waived and the boy was allowed to sit with his father.

Sitting alone in an aisle seat, she slept during the night flight. But when she felt movement, she awoke, she said, to see a man and woman beside her engaging in (warning: graphic content) oral sex.


I call absolute, 100% bullshiat.
 
2012-07-12 03:22:45 PM
And next time, if Spirit is $2/ticket cheaper than Southwest, she'll go with Spirit again.
 
2012-07-12 03:40:58 PM
One time I was on a plane getting a blow job from my girlfriend and this nosy broad was all like "Oh my Gawd! This is so graphic! You should have warned. me."
 
2012-07-12 03:53:35 PM

what_now: Before the flight, she argued with Spirit counter clerks when she learned she had to pay $18 more so her 5-year-old son wouldn't have to sit by himself. When she said she was scared of pedophiles, the fee was waived and the boy was allowed to sit with his father.

Sitting alone in an aisle seat, she slept during the night flight. But when she felt movement, she awoke, she said, to see a man and woman beside her engaging in (warning: graphic content) oral sex.

I call absolute, 100% bullshiat.


I flew from SFO to MCO on Monday. There is absolutely no way that, in a coach seat, I could possibly have contorted my body over far enough to slob the knob of the dude next to me. No. Farking. Way. And I was in an exit row. If we had three seats, and could put up the armrests, it's possible I could pull it off (hah). And as for there being enough legroom on a Spirit plane for someone to get on their knees in the row? Utterly impossible.

The most important points were made upthread. First, there's exactly zero reason to biatch if you book a flight with Spirit. They're the equivalent of a bum-encrusted Greyhound bus without the comfort or likelihood of keeping to schedule. Seriously folks. And second, it's been ten years since we let the airlines and the government assrape us with post-9/11 rules. It should be pretty clear now when you buy a plane ticket that you're voluntarily lubing up with fiberglass.

Flying is an uncomfortable, expensive, intrusive, annoying method of travel, where profit and security theater have utterly eclipsed passenger happiness. But as long as people will voluntarily fly Spirit, they'll be the lowest-common-denominator that the other airlines will look to for innovation.
 
2012-07-12 04:09:14 PM
Maybe I just travel a lot and am relatively laid-back, but I feel like air travel is horrible if you let it be. Of course there are the times I've been stuck on the tarmac, or the person in front of me is rude, but I just figure that's farking life. It's not the worst thing in the world. Then again, I've never flown Spirit and I fly trans-Atlantic a lot so the service usually is better once you leave the American airlines. No offense, USians.
 
2012-07-12 04:36:52 PM
The worst thing about the airlines aren't the cramped seating, long delays, or lost luggage. It's the people on the planes

No. Wrong. The worst thing is all those things and many, many more.
 
2012-07-12 04:39:52 PM

coco ebert: Maybe I just travel a lot and am relatively laid-back, but I feel like air travel is horrible if you let it be. Of course there are the times I've been stuck on the tarmac, or the person in front of me is rude, but I just figure that's farking life. It's not the worst thing in the world. Then again, I've never flown Spirit and I fly trans-Atlantic a lot so the service usually is better once you leave the American airlines. No offense, USians.


You're not the only one. I fly maybe once a year, and two books and a window seat took me from O'Hare to SJS and back last week without any problems. Put some in some earplugs or noise cancelling headphones, and relax.
 
2012-07-12 04:42:49 PM

Jubeebee: coco ebert: Maybe I just travel a lot and am relatively laid-back, but I feel like air travel is horrible if you let it be. Of course there are the times I've been stuck on the tarmac, or the person in front of me is rude, but I just figure that's farking life. It's not the worst thing in the world. Then again, I've never flown Spirit and I fly trans-Atlantic a lot so the service usually is better once you leave the American airlines. No offense, USians.

You're not the only one. I fly maybe once a year, and two books and a window seat took me from O'Hare to SJS and back last week without any problems. Put some in some earplugs or noise cancelling headphones, and relax.


You both sound short.
 
2012-07-12 04:52:18 PM

Calmamity: Jubeebee: coco ebert: Maybe I just travel a lot and am relatively laid-back, but I feel like air travel is horrible if you let it be. Of course there are the times I've been stuck on the tarmac, or the person in front of me is rude, but I just figure that's farking life. It's not the worst thing in the world. Then again, I've never flown Spirit and I fly trans-Atlantic a lot so the service usually is better once you leave the American airlines. No offense, USians.

You're not the only one. I fly maybe once a year, and two books and a window seat took me from O'Hare to SJS and back last week without any problems. Put some in some earplugs or noise cancelling headphones, and relax.

You both sound short.


Yeah, but I have back problems so I have other issues. I dunno, I just suck it up.
 
2012-07-12 04:53:10 PM

Jubeebee: coco ebert: Maybe I just travel a lot and am relatively laid-back, but I feel like air travel is horrible if you let it be. Of course there are the times I've been stuck on the tarmac, or the person in front of me is rude, but I just figure that's farking life. It's not the worst thing in the world. Then again, I've never flown Spirit and I fly trans-Atlantic a lot so the service usually is better once you leave the American airlines. No offense, USians.

You're not the only one. I fly maybe once a year, and two books and a window seat took me from O'Hare to SJS and back last week without any problems. Put some in some earplugs or noise cancelling headphones, and relax.


Not to mention one Xanax goes a LONG way in air travel. That, or a couple of beers.
 
2012-07-12 05:08:56 PM

coco ebert: Maybe I just travel a lot and am relatively laid-back, but I feel like air travel is horrible if you let it be. Of course there are the times I've been stuck on the tarmac, or the person in front of me is rude, but I just figure that's farking life. It's not the worst thing in the world. Then again, I've never flown Spirit and I fly trans-Atlantic a lot so the service usually is better once you leave the American airlines. No offense, USians.


Yeah. Pretty much. I have also been told that foreign airlines are rather superior to any American other than Virgin America (which, AFAIK, sticks mostly to the coasts).

I don't have many problems, but I'm not high strung about travel, either. So long as I don't need to drive I'm happy.
 
2012-07-12 05:16:45 PM
I expect delays, problems, etc. and build those expectations into my flight plans. I'm still giddy about flying though even though I do it regularly, so I'm always in a good mood on the plane, or sleeping.
 
2012-07-12 05:22:13 PM
And another thing. You feel better about a service the more you pay for it(up to a point).

Really cheap cost brings all sorts of complaints about how everything is not perfect. What the fark did you expect?
 
2012-07-12 05:24:47 PM
blogs.laweekly.com

You ever travel by low cost airline before? Your mood's probably not going to improve much.
 
2012-07-12 06:36:30 PM
I fly for the first time in years one week from today, not looking forward to it, the idea of a free BJ show though lifts my spirits!

Pretty sure it won't be too bad, paid for the nice seats, at 6' 7" even if you aren't fat you have to from everything I have read about shiat lately

/looking forward to that ballsack grope!
 
2012-07-12 06:52:33 PM
The worst thing about the airlines aren't the cramped seating, long delays, or lost luggage. It's the people on the planes.

i210.photobucket.com

That, and the in-flight entertainment.
 
2012-07-12 06:59:58 PM

martissimo: I fly for the first time in years one week from today, not looking forward to it, the idea of a free BJ show though lifts my spirits!

Pretty sure it won't be too bad, paid for the nice seats, at 6' 7" even if you aren't fat you have to from everything I have read about shiat lately

/looking forward to that ballsack grope!


I'm pretty short and I always pay extra for the stretch when I can. I'm not willing to sacrifice basic comforts to save $20.
 
2012-07-12 07:01:06 PM
I'm flying next week. I'll be looking for the blowjobs and will report back.
 
2012-07-12 07:01:47 PM
That all sounds pretty normal, except for the oral sex part which sadly is not normal for me.

The advice was all good but it's 2012. Haven't we all been doing that for 5 years or more?
 
2012-07-12 07:03:47 PM
1. Buy a good pair of noise-cancelling headphones.

2. Get a window seat.

3. Sit down, put your headphones on, and be left the fark alone for the duration of your flight.

It's really easy.
 
2012-07-12 07:05:03 PM

The worst thing about the airlines aren't


"The worst thing... aren't"?

*mentally kicks subliteratemitter in the 'nads*
 
2012-07-12 07:05:27 PM
Hell is other people.
 
2012-07-12 07:06:33 PM
A friend of mine works for one of the major airlines. She says her company has to handcuff/zip-tie an average of one passenger per week. And they were told that wasn't enough people -- that, statistically, there are enough unhinged travelers that they should be restraining more people for being out-of-control nutjobs.
 
2012-07-12 07:08:29 PM
Whenever I fly, there's always some morbo in the waiting area, and I always think to myself "that 450 pound person is going to be in the middle seat next to me" (no, it's not my wife).
And every time, my prophecy comes true.

Why God, why???
 
2012-07-12 07:11:27 PM
Overbooking.
 
2012-07-12 07:12:33 PM
Last year, Spirit Airlines began flying out of DFW Airport. But its customer service isn't Texas friendly. On the company's website listing of add-on charges, I counted 73 fees - or, as the company calls them, "our customer-empowering optional pricing structure."

If you read that and immediately wanted to go find a marketing person and kick them in the shins, congratulations, you still have a soul.
 
2012-07-12 07:15:29 PM

meat0918: And another thing. You feel better about a service the more you pay for it(up to a point).

Really cheap cost brings all sorts of complaints about how everything is not perfect. What the fark did you expect?


See, there's this. You get what you pay for. And if you want to pay bottom dollar for service--ANY service--then that's what you get in return. Cheap prices means volume business, and volume business means less personal service.

Want cheap air travel? Then you get crowded seating, surly attendants, and a packet of peanuts and a complimentary tiny soda. Because the airlines have to make costs and profits somehow, and it's either fewer people paying much more, or a lot of people paying less. Want cheap consumer goods? Then you get big-box stores where nobody knows where anything is. Because Home Depot cannot make costs and profits by giving you the same personal service that the costlier mom-&-pop hardware stores used to give.

Even if the store or airlines really really wants to provide good service, it's much harder to give personal service to 500 people than to 50.
 
2012-07-12 07:17:01 PM
I've been flying every other week for the past two years for my job. Some obvious things have happened - stuck on tarmac, lost luggage, having the back of my seat kicked by children old enough to know better, etc. Overall I consider myself lucky.

The worst two things that have happened to me

1. On a red eye from LAX to JFK, within 10 minutes of the plane taking off the drunk idiot next to me fell asleep with his whiskey and coke in his hands and it spilled all over me, my seat, in my shoes, etc.

2. On a trans-Atlantic British Airways flight, we had three choices of meals. Everyone who ate one of the choices (including myself) got food poisoning. People were puking in plastic bags the entire way to New York. And then when we got to New York, people were puking on the floor in customs line. It was disgusting. However, I got a refund, a voucher, and 3 first class upgrades out of it.

/CSS
 
2012-07-12 07:18:53 PM

coco ebert: Maybe I just travel a lot and am relatively laid-back, but I feel like air travel is horrible if you let it be. Of course there are the times I've been stuck on the tarmac, or the person in front of me is rude, but I just figure that's farking life. It's not the worst thing in the world. Then again, I've never flown Spirit and I fly trans-Atlantic a lot so the service usually is better once you leave the American airlines. No offense, USians.


Much like our healthcare system, our commercial flight services are horrible.

Why is that?
 
2012-07-12 07:20:24 PM

WhippingBoy: Whenever I fly, there's always some morbo in the waiting area, and I always think to myself "that 450 pound person is going to be in the middle seat next to me" (no, it's not my wife).
And every time, my prophecy comes true.

Why God, why???


Look at it this way: if you're ever in a position where your plane is about to crash, you can use your superhuman, fear-induced, adrenaline strength to yank an armrest off one of the seats and use the sharp end that connected it to the body of the chair to split that fatass from neck to nuts. You can then climb inside their blubbery carcass and use them as an improvised roll cage for when the plane hits turf. The best part? When emergency crews pull you from your blubbery safety cage, you can say, with a straight face:

"And I thought he smelled bad on the outside"
 
2012-07-12 07:23:22 PM
A passenger jet is a bus in the sky. Accept that and it's a little easier to take.

The airlines have to nearly fill every flight just to make any money on it (now, this is them talking, maybe they're exaggerating, but jet fuel is farking expensive, and so are large airplanes), so it's really no surprise that airplane trips now have the glamour and comfort of a slave ship during the Middle Passage.
 
2012-07-12 07:23:42 PM

WhippingBoy: Whenever I fly, there's always some morbo in the waiting area, and I always think to myself "that 450 pound person is going to be in the middle seat next to me" (no, it's not my wife).
And every time, my prophecy comes true.

Why God, why???


Because you're mean and evil and your karma is coming back to squish you flat. Remember that when you pass that poor Hare Krishna in the lobby and don't throw him a dime.

(Although I think it's just because there are more fat people flying and not taking two seats like they used to do in the Olden Days.)
 
2012-07-12 07:24:19 PM
I predrink before i get on the plane. That way I don;t care about the strip search. Then I drink more on the plane so if it crashes I'm too pissed to care.
 
2012-07-12 07:24:46 PM

dahmers love zombie: Flying is an uncomfortable, expensive, intrusive, annoying method of travel, where profit and security theater have utterly eclipsed passenger happiness. But as long as people will voluntarily fly Spirit, they'll be the lowest-common-denominator that the other airlines will look to for innovation.


The problem is most people forget its not as expensive and profitable as it used to be. Just 50 years ago, you had a much better experience, but flying was limited to the wealthy or the occasional business traveler. Now, you get consultants who fly every week and families who can afford to fly the whole crew to Disneyland instead of driving. But people are so cheap these days that they look for the lowest cost ticket on Orbitz or Expedia and then biatch when they have to pay to check a bag or get food. Sure, you got a free meal on flights 25 years ago but the ticket was more expensive when you adjust for inflation.

As for the security issues, yea, taking off your shoes and needing three different plastic bins for your backpack and laptop and sweater is ridiculous. I seriously think privatizing may be a better option in that case.
 
2012-07-12 07:25:00 PM

Otherwise Just Fine: coco ebert: Maybe I just travel a lot and am relatively laid-back, but I feel like air travel is horrible if you let it be. Of course there are the times I've been stuck on the tarmac, or the person in front of me is rude, but I just figure that's farking life. It's not the worst thing in the world. Then again, I've never flown Spirit and I fly trans-Atlantic a lot so the service usually is better once you leave the American airlines. No offense, USians.

Much like our healthcare system, our commercial flight services are horrible.

Why is that?


Yeah but when you fly foreign airlines you run the risk of running into super body odor, not just your average fatty BO. I'm looking at you middle east and south east asia.
 
2012-07-12 07:25:38 PM

bird girl: I've been flying every other week for the past two years for my job. Some obvious things have happened - stuck on tarmac, lost luggage, having the back of my seat kicked by children old enough to know better, etc. Overall I consider myself lucky.

The worst two things that have happened to me

1. On a red eye from LAX to JFK, within 10 minutes of the plane taking off the drunk idiot next to me fell asleep with his whiskey and coke in his hands and it spilled all over me, my seat, in my shoes, etc.

2. On a trans-Atlantic British Airways flight, we had three choices of meals. Everyone who ate one of the choices (including myself) got food poisoning. People were puking in plastic bags the entire way to New York. And then when we got to New York, people were puking on the floor in customs line. It was disgusting. However, I got a refund, a voucher, and 3 first class upgrades out of it.

/CSS


#1: That happened to me once. About an hour after take-off the guy next to me had a glass of red wine in his hand. I was reading but out of the corner of my eye I noticed he was holding the glass at a bit of an angle. Just as I started to realize that he was asleep, we hit a small bit of turbulence. He twitched and sent the wine flying into my lap. Fortunately I was wearing darkish blue jeans and none of it got on my shirt. I was freaking out but red wine on dark blue jeans is actually invisible. I was moist for a little while but thankfully otherwise no problem.

#2: That's a different kind of flying altogether!
 
2012-07-12 07:27:41 PM

killershark


As for the security issues, yea, taking off your shoes and needing three different plastic bins for your backpack and laptop and sweater is ridiculous. I seriously think privatizing may be a better option in that case.


Or we could just get rid of the ridiculous measures and take a sane approach to security.
 
2012-07-12 07:27:48 PM

Toshiro Mifune's Letter Opener: The worst thing about the airlines aren't the cramped seating, long delays, or lost luggage. It's the people on the planes.

[i210.photobucket.com image 635x450]

That, and the in-flight entertainment.


What is it with you and The Final Countdown?
 
2012-07-12 07:28:00 PM

coco ebert: Not to mention one Xanax goes a LONG way in air travel. That, or and a couple of beers.


ftfy

; ]
 
2012-07-12 07:28:20 PM

what_now: Before the flight, she argued with Spirit counter clerks when she learned she had to pay $18 more so her 5-year-old son wouldn't have to sit by himself. When she said she was scared of pedophiles, the fee was waived and the boy was allowed to sit with his father.

Sitting alone in an aisle seat, she slept during the night flight. But when she felt movement, she awoke, she said, to see a man and woman beside her engaging in (warning: graphic content) oral sex.

I call absolute, 100% bullshiat.


I had to look at TFA to see if that's how it was written. It's like warning someone you're about to hit them when your fist is 2" from their face. Nice editing job...
 
2012-07-12 07:29:09 PM

Red Shirt Blues: Yeah but when you fly foreign airlines you run the risk of running into super body odor, not just your average fatty BO. I'm looking at you middle east and south east asia.


Hell, I have to deal with that at work. Some people need to learn about hygene
 
2012-07-12 07:31:13 PM

James F. Campbell: What is it with you and The Final Countdown?


Oh, ya know. It's a thing.



Englebert Slaptyback: "The worst thing... aren't"?

*mentally kicks subliteratemitter in the 'nads*


I ain't not gonna reckon otherwise, sir.
 
2012-07-12 07:33:52 PM

star_topology: Overbooking.


If you're not on a tight schedule overbooking can be a blessing.
 
2012-07-12 07:35:04 PM
Meh. For a not outrageous amount of money you can be almost anywhere on earth in less than day.
Show up at the airport early, if possible
Assume the TSA will slowly and sensuously violate you
Bring sufficient food of a type that will not bother everyone around you
Bring some sort of personal entertainment device
Assume the airline will give you nothing but a seat for your money that will eventually arrive at your chosen destination.
Go with the flow and don't expect a blow job.
 
2012-07-12 07:35:47 PM
i'm really not clear on which airlines offers the best oral sex rates. i really don't care where they fly. i just want the oral sex.

/thank you for flying oral sex airlines. buh-bye.
 
2012-07-12 07:35:59 PM
The people that travel the least complain the most.
 
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