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2012-07-12 12:50:35 PM
"You can't say statements filed with the SEC are meaningless. This is a fact in an SEC filing... It doesn't make a whole lot of sense to say he was technically in charge on paper but he had nothing to do with Bain's operations. Was he getting paid? He's the sole stockholder. Are you telling me he owned the company but had no say in its investments?"

This.
 
2012-07-12 01:10:42 PM
FTA: Legal issues. There are legal implications no matter which date is correct. Romney's most recent federal financial disclosure form says that "Since February 11, 1999, Mr. Romney has not had any active role with any Bain Capital entity and has not been involved in the operations of any Bain Capital entity in any way." Earlier this month, in evaluating the truth of an ad by President Obama's campaign calling Romney an outsourcer, FactCheck.org said that if Romney hadn't really left Bain when he said he did, "then Romney is guilty of lying on official federal disclosure forms, committing a felony."

And this.
 
2012-07-12 01:37:06 PM
This opens the door for Romney to drop out and RON PAUL to become president.
 
2012-07-12 02:03:12 PM
That's just "would-be leader of free world", subby. For now, at least.
 
2012-07-12 02:03:30 PM

SphericalTime: FTA: Legal issues. There are legal implications no matter which date is correct. Romney's most recent federal financial disclosure form says that "Since February 11, 1999, Mr. Romney has not had any active role with any Bain Capital entity and has not been involved in the operations of any Bain Capital entity in any way." Earlier this month, in evaluating the truth of an ad by President Obama's campaign calling Romney an outsourcer, FactCheck.org said that if Romney hadn't really left Bain when he said he did, "then Romney is guilty of lying on official federal disclosure forms, committing a felony."

And this.


Another one? No wonder McCain picked Caribou Barbie over him.
 
2012-07-12 02:12:31 PM

abb3w: That's just "would-be leader of free world", subby. For now, at least.


You weren't aware that he's already won? It's like you don't watch FoxNews at all...
 
2012-07-12 02:18:31 PM

timujin: Another one? No wonder McCain picked Caribou Barbie over him.


The completely, utterly nonpartisan Factcheck.org suggests that of course there's no way that Mittens could have committed a felony, so it's evidence that the Obama campaign is lying.
 
2012-07-12 03:08:58 PM
Sooner or later he's going to have to start talking about his time at Bain. Sooner or later he's going to have to submit to questions about his past. He may not like it, but he wants to be President. It's not the f*cking student council. It's not a f*cking prep school popularity contest. It's a real job, motherf*cker, a job where you work for us, and you should answer our questions.
 
2012-07-12 03:12:34 PM
That was about as edgy as a Saturn full of Creed fans.
 
2012-07-12 03:12:52 PM
Anyone can start their own Bain capital.

I'd love to have a beer with Mitt
 
2012-07-12 03:15:01 PM
Leader of the free world. So, he's the mayor of Amsterdam?

Mitt is getting destroyed, most of the wounds are self-inflictef, and he's not even made it to the convention.

Somewhere, Jeb Bush is laughing.
 
2012-07-12 03:15:17 PM
Not a single right wing troglodyte can explain to me how Rmoney made $100,000 during this time without making any decisions for the company.

What other company gives a person $100,000 for free?

Jesus Christ, you would think the inbreds would have vetted the man after running for office for the past ten years.
 
2012-07-12 03:18:11 PM
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S'no bueno Mr. Mitt.
 
2012-07-12 03:18:34 PM
The interesting part of this story is that any explanation of why he wasn't lying to the SEC makes Romney either:

A. A liar.

B. A shiatty businessman.
 
2012-07-12 03:19:08 PM
What other company gives a person $100,000 for free?

Companies give a lot more than $100,000 to individuals now that SuperPacs are legal. Before the SCOTUS decision they just had to run the money through different channels.
 
2012-07-12 03:19:28 PM

SeismicJizzer: Not a single right wing troglodyte can explain to me how Rmoney made $100,000 during this time without making any decisions for the company.

What other company gives a person $100,000 for free.


Well he was also the owner: sole stockholder.

And remember Dick Cheney's deferred comp from Halliburton - kept collecting millions after he became veep. How that didn't amount to a bribe, I cannot fathom.
 
2012-07-12 03:19:36 PM
That follows a Vanity Fair report earlier this month showing that Romney still gets income from Bain -- $2 million in June alone,...

Why in the holy fark would you want to be President? I'd be busy doing all sorts of things.

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2012-07-12 03:19:40 PM
I'll just post what I said in the other similar thread:
What the GOP needs to do is force Romney's hand in just releasing his taxes and properly vet him and all of his dealings before the convention. If it still looks bad, they need to replace him as the candidate.

If Mittens keeps dancing around stuff and citing technicalities about his time at Bain or his taxes, it's only going to be a bigger deal as the election gets closer. His best bet is to just deal with things now and it will be old news by November. If it's a big enough deal to make him unelectable, the GOP needs to move on to somebody else.
 
2012-07-12 03:20:31 PM
Even if he is elected president, Romney won't be leader of the free world.
 
2012-07-12 03:27:24 PM
 
2012-07-12 03:27:56 PM

Soup4Bonnie: That follows a Vanity Fair report earlier this month showing that Romney still gets income from Bain -- $2 million in June alone,...

Why in the holy fark would you want to be President? I'd be busy doing all sorts of things.


He believes it's his God given destiny
 
2012-07-12 03:28:10 PM
The explanation is simple:

The little people just don't understand how these SEC things work.
 
2012-07-12 03:28:57 PM

SeismicJizzer: Not a single right wing troglodyte can explain to me how Rmoney made $100,000 during this time without making any decisions for the company.

What other company gives a person $100,000 for free?

Jesus Christ, you would think the inbreds would have vetted the man after running for office for the past ten years.


Thats pretty damning evidence right there considering CEOs make like 400 brazillion dollars a year.....looks like they were paying Mitt the going rate of an IT guy.....so he probably was NOT running Bain at the time.
 
2012-07-12 03:29:10 PM
So this means the claims that Romney didn't have anything to do with Bain's investment in Stericycle - a medical waste disposal company that dealt in aborted fetuses - a lie?
 
2012-07-12 03:31:55 PM
Being a CEO that's not a CEO is just like Romney's IRA that has more money in it than an IRA. And the "Fact Checkers" blow this smoke up my ass and tell me it's all perfectly sensible.
 
2012-07-12 03:32:14 PM
I have serious question, did Romney sign off on decisions made at Bain up until 2002?
 
2012-07-12 03:32:40 PM

pootsie: The explanation is simple:

The little people just don't understand how these SEC things work.


Actually, most journalists don't. A lot of lawyers don't.
 
2012-07-12 03:32:58 PM

NeoCortex42: I'll just post what I said in the other similar thread:
What the GOP needs to do is force Romney's hand in just releasing his taxes and properly vet him and all of his dealings before the convention. If it still looks bad, they need to replace him as the candidate.


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I choose you!

haha the Republicans are so farked. You think Santorum or Gingrich would be doing better right now? Obama is going to steamroll any Republican alive right now, because their party is falling apart and they have no ideas or candidates. Nothing you can do about that now.
 
2012-07-12 03:34:24 PM

vernonFL: So this means the claims that Romney didn't have anything to do with Bain's investment in Stericycle - a medical waste disposal company that dealt in aborted fetuses - a lie?


Link
 
2012-07-12 03:34:55 PM

vernonFL: So this means the claims that Romney didn't have anything to do with Bain's investment in Stericycle - a medical waste disposal company that dealt in aborted fetuses - a lie?


They dealt in aborted fetuses? That's gotta be a tough sell.
 
2012-07-12 03:35:03 PM

kapaso: I have serious question, did Romney sign off on decisions made at Bain up until 2002?


Well he at least signed off on being CEO to the SEC.
 
2012-07-12 03:35:29 PM

Lost Thought 00: He believes it's his God given destiny


At $2 Million a month, I'm pretty sure I can bribe God into STFU.
 
2012-07-12 03:36:13 PM
I'll repost this from another thread, because I've yet to see it responded to.

At best, at best, Romney can say "I didn't actually lay people off, I just made a huge amount of money watching other people doing it. I've reaped the fruits of laying people off and outsourcing. I've benefited immensely from it.

His defense is literally "I didn't do it actively, so please don't notice that I've made a lot of money from it happening."
 
2012-07-12 03:38:08 PM

Giltric: SeismicJizzer: Not a single right wing troglodyte can explain to me how Rmoney made $100,000 during this time without making any decisions for the company.

What other company gives a person $100,000 for free?

Jesus Christ, you would think the inbreds would have vetted the man after running for office for the past ten years.

Thats pretty damning evidence right there considering CEOs make like 400 brazillion dollars a year.....looks like they were paying Mitt the going rate of an IT guy.....so he probably was NOT running Bain at the time.


Not necessarily. CEOs have taken $1 in annual salary in the past in exchange for stock in the company. Romney wouldn't need more than $100,000 in actual salary if he's taking home millions in stock or profit sharing.
 
2012-07-12 03:39:07 PM
It's perfectly apt for Romney to be the CEO in quantum supposition. He is CEO and not-CEO at the same exact time. Just don't open the box.
 
2012-07-12 03:42:52 PM

Bloody William: vernonFL: So this means the claims that Romney didn't have anything to do with Bain's investment in Stericycle - a medical waste disposal company that dealt in aborted fetuses - a lie?

They dealt in aborted fetuses? That's gotta be a tough sell.


I just got an idea for a La Quinta commercial.
 
2012-07-12 03:45:15 PM

JerseyTim: This opens the door for Romney to drop out and RON PAUL to become president.


I'm okay with this. It would be fun to see RON PAUL actually get up out of Wrongo's chair and run a serious campaign to see if people would actually elect him president. And just think of all the awesome photoshops.
 
2012-07-12 03:46:28 PM

RsquaredW: The apologists are already in force on this one.


Ugh...

Just because you are listed as an owner of shares does not mean you have a managerial role.

What does it mean when you're listed as chairman, president, and CEO?
 
2012-07-12 03:46:49 PM
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2012-07-12 03:47:14 PM
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2012-07-12 03:47:17 PM

Wendy's Chili: Bloody William: vernonFL: So this means the claims that Romney didn't have anything to do with Bain's investment in Stericycle - a medical waste disposal company that dealt in aborted fetuses - a lie?

They dealt in aborted fetuses? That's gotta be a tough sell.

I just got an idea for a La Quinta commercial.


New Romney campaign slogan; I am against abortion but if it legal why not profit from it? Amirite?
 
2012-07-12 03:49:00 PM
Well, yes.. but as has been stated in other threads surrounding this issue, it's not as if Romney would have to deal with any consequences outside of potentially losing a few voters.

I have to say that this particular election cycle has to be one of the lowest in our history. It's almost as if the Republicans are focusing squarely on an "anyone but Obama" platform. The insurgency of the Tea Party has really laid waste to a party that, at one point, had some fairly strong ideals.. now it's just become... I don't even know what it is anymore. It's not even a political party at this stage. I have relatives who are actually Republicans who are thinking people and don't go all-in with the party's stupidity. They're actually reporting that they HAVE to vote Obama (and a couple are somewhat ok with it on an ideological level) since voting their party at all is tantamount to cutting their own throats. I feel bad for them.
 
2012-07-12 03:53:10 PM
"I had nothing to do with a company that I owned 100% of and was the CEO of and was paid $100,000 per year"

Really? That seems to be what they are saying.
 
2012-07-12 03:58:27 PM
I am now siding with whatever ends this election quickest.
 
2012-07-12 04:00:27 PM
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2012-07-12 04:00:27 PM

endlessmonkeys: It's almost as if the Republicans are focusing squarely on an "anyone but Obama" platform. The insurgency of the Tea Party has really laid waste to a party that, at one point, had some fairly strong ideals.. now it's just become... I don't even know what it is anymore. It's not even a political party at this stage. I have relatives who are actually Republicans who are thinking people and don't go all-in with the party's stupidity. They're actually reporting that they HAVE to vote Obama (and a couple are somewhat ok with it on an ideological level) since voting their party at all is tantamount to cutting their own throats. I feel bad for them.


there's no almost about it. That's all they have. They can't actively and passively torpedo the economy AND run on job creation.

As for your Republican relatives, it sucks for them, but this isn't something that happened overnight. Before the nutbag Teabaggers chopped away at the foundations of the party, the religious nuts were chopping away for quite a while. There were plenty of chances for them to stand up and say "really?! WTF?"

It all goes back to a fundamental difference between the two parties. Democrats usually throw their wackjobs under the bus. Republicans like to let them drive.
 
2012-07-12 04:01:58 PM

vernonFL: "I had nothing to do with a company that I owned 100% of and was the CEO of and was paid $100,000 per year"

Really? That seems to be what they are saying.


Well it is part of the 1% game....I doubt anyone here knows the rules especially when they have a liberal arts degree and can;t get a job outside of making frappachinos.
 
2012-07-12 04:02:33 PM

vernonFL: "I had nothing to do with a company that I owned 100% of and was the CEO of and was paid $100,000 per year"

Really? That seems to be what they are saying.


Party of personal responsibility strikes again.

Of course, to be fair, I also criticize Al Roker for something similar.

"Yeah, Imus has been a racial incident waiting to happen for years...but I still cashed the checks that came from him boosting our ratings"
 
2012-07-12 04:04:41 PM
Philip Francis Queeg: The interesting part of this story is that any explanation of why he wasn't lying to the SEC makes Romney either:

A. A liar.

B. A shiatty businessman Felon.


FTFY
 
2012-07-12 04:05:20 PM

endlessmonkeys: Well, yes.. but as has been stated in other threads surrounding this issue, it's not as if Romney would have to deal with any consequences outside of potentially losing a few voters.

I have to say that this particular election cycle has to be one of the lowest in our history. It's almost as if the Republicans are focusing squarely on an "anyone but Obama" platform. The insurgency of the Tea Party has really laid waste to a party that, at one point, had some fairly strong ideals.. now it's just become... I don't even know what it is anymore. It's not even a political party at this stage. I have relatives who are actually Republicans who are thinking people and don't go all-in with the party's stupidity. They're actually reporting that they HAVE to vote Obama (and a couple are somewhat ok with it on an ideological level) since voting their party at all is tantamount to cutting their own throats. I feel bad for them.


Biden hit is right on the money during his NAACP talk: "This isn't your father's Republican Party." They made it explicitly clear since Obama took office that their primary goal was getting Obama out of the White House. Not anything to do with improving the country, but just getting "their side" back into power.

The best hope for this country is for the GOP as it is to just disappear. I think it's almost impossible for them to shed the Tea partiers at this point. The "moderate" Republicans and Democrats that are remaining need to form a successfully form a third party and then maybe we can get back to a proper two party system, where there actually is a left and right party that are willing to work together.
 
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