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(Politico)   While the media is busily covering the staged NAACP fauxtroversy, someone has actually bothered to look at Romney's financial disclosures, and he may be guilty of a felony   (politico.com) divider line 510
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2012-07-12 09:27:25 AM  
Huh. I don't believe it on the precedent set by the case 'Too Good v. Being True'.
 
2012-07-12 09:28:39 AM  
I am Jack's total lack of surprise.
 
2012-07-12 09:32:14 AM  

video man: Huh. I don't believe it on the precedent set by the case 'Too Good v. Being True'.


But if it is....oh man. Wow.
 
2012-07-12 09:32:43 AM  
Non-story, overzealous staffer
 
2012-07-12 09:34:19 AM  
Nothing is going to happen.
 
2012-07-12 09:34:20 AM  

Rev.K: video man: Huh. I don't believe it on the precedent set by the case 'Too Good v. Being True'.

But if it is....oh man. Wow.


I'm sure there's a statute of limitations that would have tolled by now.
 
2012-07-12 09:36:37 AM  
If you're used to lying about everything and getting away with it, eventually you'll lie about something that matters. Of course, he'll get away with that too, but still.
 
2012-07-12 09:36:42 AM  
Anyone worth over 8 figures does not commit "felonies". They make honest mistakes.
 
2012-07-12 09:39:52 AM  
The Romneyon is simultaneously head of, and not head of, Bain Capital at a given time until polling and the least troublesome interpretation of the facts collapses the wavefunction of his actual state at a given time.

Titular head of Bain but not actually involved? Shareholder lawsuit.
Supposedly on a "leave of absence" but still making decisions? SEC on line two Mr. Romney, something about "false statements".

/a quantum theory of mitt romney was devastatingly accurate and funny
 
2012-07-12 09:41:54 AM  
a) another felony. He's on record with something like four, now.

b) He's not a pleb, he's got money. This is America. He will never stand before a judge. Ever.
 
2012-07-12 09:45:13 AM  
From The Globe article: "A Romney campaign official,who requested anonymity to discuss the SEC filings,acknowledged that they "do not square with common sense." But SEC regulations are complicated and quirky,the official argued,and Romney's signature on some documents after his exit does not indicate active involvement in the firm.


So you're the sole stockholder, CEO and President of a firm getting a six figure salary AND put your signature on official documents but don't have anything to do with it. Gotcha

/or gotcha moment
 
2012-07-12 09:47:08 AM  

Marcus Aurelius: Anyone worth over 8 figures does not commit "felonies". They make honest mistakes.


That's funny, until you realize it's true.
 
2012-07-12 09:50:11 AM  
Meh. Nothing's going to happen. I know it, you know it, and my dogs know it.
 
2012-07-12 09:50:24 AM  

unlikely: a) another felony. He's on record with something like four, now.

b) He's not a pleb, he's got money. This is America. He will never stand before a judge. Ever.


unless he farks over his own kind. remember - the only person (well, non-indian person) to be jailed for massive economic fraud during the collapse was bernie madoff. why? HE STOLE FROM THE ONE PERCENT.
 
2012-07-12 09:59:47 AM  

Aarontology: Nothing is going to happen.


That.

Romney is far too rich to ever get charged with any crime, plus the GOP will scream endlessly about fascism if he was charged.

This country is probably no longer fixable.
 
2012-07-12 10:02:36 AM  
Suppose its true. Suppose there is overwhelming evidence and it looks like a slam dunk case. Does the DOJ dare go after it? It would make Obama look like a power hungry freak that will do anything and everything to get re-elected. It's not just fuel to the fire for wingnuts. It's freaking rocket fuel.

One thing is for sure though. His history at Bain is not going away. Even if team Obama uses kid gloves on the issue the superpacs are going to pound him on it.
 
2012-07-12 10:06:27 AM  
One more time, for the cheap seats:

LAWS.
ARE.
FOR.
LITTLE.
PEOPLE.

This will result in nothing. Even if it SHOULD.

/sigh
 
2012-07-12 10:07:17 AM  

sammyk: Suppose its true. Suppose there is overwhelming evidence and it looks like a slam dunk case. Does the DOJ dare go after it? It would make Obama look like a power hungry freak that will do anything and everything to get re-elected. It's not just fuel to the fire for wingnuts. It's freaking rocket fuel.


Okay. So the wingnuts will vote for him twice? Because of that?

I'm not so sure you thought that scenario all the way through.
 
2012-07-12 10:07:25 AM  
B.S.
 
2012-07-12 10:07:51 AM  

sammyk: Suppose its true. Suppose there is overwhelming evidence and it looks like a slam dunk case. Does the DOJ dare go after it? It would make Obama look like a power hungry freak that will do anything and everything to get re-elected. It's not just fuel to the fire for wingnuts. It's freaking rocket fuel.

One thing is for sure though. His history at Bain is not going away. Even if team Obama uses kid gloves on the issue the superpacs are going to pound him on it.


The obvious solution for now is to ignore it. If Obama wins, you can prosecute him later and further shame his supporters. If Romney wins, cue up 4 years of congressional inquiries (presuming the Dems keep control of one of the houses of congress).
 
2012-07-12 10:08:48 AM  
Just like Issa is guilty? If there was one thing I've learned on fark it is that the joy of watching a political opponent being arrested is much greater than the knowledge of legal arguments for liberals. So yeah, not putting much credence into the legal "analysis" from a giddy liberal. I'll trust the competence of the IRS analyzing romney returns over the wet dream of a liberal.
 
2012-07-12 10:09:14 AM  

jim32rr: B.S.


Thanks for your obviously well-thought-out analysis.
 
2012-07-12 10:09:22 AM  

cameroncrazy1984: Okay. So the wingnuts will vote for him twice? Because of that?

I'm not so sure you thought that scenario all the way through.


They might try to start that violent insurrection they've been masturbating to the thought of ever since a black man was elected President.
 
2012-07-12 10:09:34 AM  

Marcus Aurelius: Anyone worth over 8 figures does not commit "felonies". They make honest mistakes.


"It was a very tragic accident that deeply affected the families and was very painful for all involved, including the community at large."
 
2012-07-12 10:09:48 AM  

GAT_00: This country is probably no longer fixable.


What, just because millionaires can lie to the federal government with absolutely no consequences? Naaaaaaah.
 
2012-07-12 10:09:49 AM  

MyRandomName: I've learned on fark it is that the joy of watching a political opponent being arrested is much greater than the knowledge of legal arguments for liberals


wat
 
2012-07-12 10:10:24 AM  

incendi: cameroncrazy1984: Okay. So the wingnuts will vote for him twice? Because of that?

I'm not so sure you thought that scenario all the way through.

They might try to start that violent insurrection they've been masturbating to the thought of ever since a black man was elected President.


They might get halfway down the block on their hoverrounds before the batteries die, you mean.
 
2012-07-12 10:10:34 AM  
Oh, that's just rich.
 
2012-07-12 10:10:56 AM  

MyRandomName: I'll trust the competence of the IRS analyzing romney returns


Oh now we trust the IRS. lol
 
2012-07-12 10:11:13 AM  
Romney may be an unindicted felon?

[nelsonmuntz]

Aarontology: Nothing is going to happen.


Damnitsomuch.

ecx.images-amazon.com

/Hot.
 
2012-07-12 10:11:28 AM  

sprawl15: Marcus Aurelius: Anyone worth over 8 figures does not commit "felonies". They make honest mistakes.

"It was a very tragic accident that deeply affected the families and was very painful for all involved, including the community at large."


Worst case scanario is that's followed by "we have decided to make a $3 million donation to...."
 
2012-07-12 10:11:37 AM  

MyRandomName: Just like Issa is guilty? If there was one thing I've learned on fark it is that the joy of watching a political opponent being arrested is much greater than the knowledge of legal arguments for liberals. So yeah, not putting much credence into the legal "analysis" from a giddy liberal. I'll trust the competence of the IRS analyzing romney returns over the wet dream of a liberal.


But wait, I thought the IRS was Obama's jack booted army of thugs who were intent on rounding up all the freedom loving patriots without health insurance?
 
2012-07-12 10:11:40 AM  

sammyk: Suppose its true. Suppose there is overwhelming evidence and it looks like a slam dunk case. Does the DOJ dare go after it? It would make Obama look like a power hungry freak that will do anything and everything to get re-elected. It's not just fuel to the fire for wingnuts. It's freaking rocket fuel.

One thing is for sure though. His history at Bain is not going away. Even if team Obama uses kid gloves on the issue the superpacs are going to pound him on it.


I seriously doubt Obama is going to do anything about this officially. Being the first sitting President to arrest the guy running against him is too politically damaging. Scummy as it seems, Romney will get away with this in all but the election itself.

The GOP might use this as a chance to get rid of an unpopular candidate and put someone else in his place. I predict the RON PAUL believers will be re-energized for the RNC by this unfortunate story. Maybe some old candidates that dropped out will get in the running again. You never know.
 
2012-07-12 10:11:43 AM  

GAT_00:


This country is probably no longer fixable.


A truer statement was never spoken.
 
2012-07-12 10:12:33 AM  
"The Obama complaint claims we erred in saying Mitt Romney gave up active management of Bain Capital in early 1999 to run the 2002 Winter Olympics, insisting we were then wrong in saying Romney was not responsible for shipping U.S. jobs overseas," FactCheck's Brooks Jackson and Robert Farley wrote in a response to the Obama campaign, which had complained about an earlier article by the authors.

"In fact, if the Obama campaign were correct, Romney would be guilty of a federal felony by certifying on federal financial disclosure forms that he left active management of Bain Capital in February 1999."


Wow. They didn't leave themselves any wiggle room with that statement. Can't really unwind that.

Not that Romney will ever feel any heat for it, but it calls the thoroughness of factcheck's fact checking in to question.
 
2012-07-12 10:12:49 AM  
Who would run for president if he goes to jail? The answer is RON PAUL.
 
2012-07-12 10:13:16 AM  

cameroncrazy1984: They might get halfway down the block on their hoverrounds before the batteries die, you mean.


Oh, come on, those things are good 15 miles, according to the manufacturer. Adjusting for the average size of the occupant, they can make it at least two blocks.
 
2012-07-12 10:13:19 AM  
even if he is I doubt anything would come of it.
 
2012-07-12 10:14:35 AM  
ftfa: "would be guilty of a federal felony by certifying on federal financial disclosure forms that he left active management of Bain Capital in February 1999."

I think going on leave of absence in 1999 pretty much precluded him from activce management.
 
2012-07-12 10:14:37 AM  
I think there's a point missing here: FactCheck.org got it wrong...again. And likely won't admit it. Their continuing crusade to appear "fair" is biting them in the ass.
 
2012-07-12 10:15:27 AM  

sweetmelissa31: Who would run for president if he goes to jail? The answer is RON PAUL.


It's true, he never dropped out of the race right? And he's been like magically picking up delegates since the primaries?

RON PAUL IS MY HOMEBOY
 
2012-07-12 10:15:43 AM  

sweetmelissa31: Who would run for president if he goes to jail? The answer is RON PAUL.


Newt is still willing to walk for President.
 
2012-07-12 10:15:53 AM  
Response from the GOP:

Liberals are spending so much time talking about felonies Romney committed because they don't want you talking about how Obama is turning us into socialists.
 
2012-07-12 10:16:21 AM  

Cat Food Sandwiches: ftfa: "would be guilty of a federal felony by certifying on federal financial disclosure forms that he left active management of Bain Capital in February 1999."

I think going on leave of absence in 1999 pretty much precluded him from activce management.


Except he was listed as active management on other federal disclosure forms.
 
2012-07-12 10:17:15 AM  

qorkfiend: Cat Food Sandwiches: ftfa: "would be guilty of a federal felony by certifying on federal financial disclosure forms that he left active management of Bain Capital in February 1999."

I think going on leave of absence in 1999 pretty much precluded him from activce management.

Except he was listed as active management on other federal disclosure forms.


He was obviously lying on those.
 
2012-07-12 10:17:18 AM  

MyRandomName: I'll trust the competence of the IRS


Saved.
 
2012-07-12 10:18:01 AM  
Eric Holder needs to look into this.
 
2012-07-12 10:18:48 AM  

qorkfiend: Cat Food Sandwiches: ftfa: "would be guilty of a federal felony by certifying on federal financial disclosure forms that he left active management of Bain Capital in February 1999."

I think going on leave of absence in 1999 pretty much precluded him from activce management.

Except he was listed as active management on other federal disclosure forms.


He was both in active management and out of active management until someone opened the box to check.
 
2012-07-12 10:18:52 AM  
You know who else ran for chancellorship President while in jail?
 
2012-07-12 10:21:49 AM  
Peoples panties are in a bunch because Romney said he left active management in 1999 but nobody can prove that he didn't still actively manage Bain after that?


The dems are turning into a caricature of the republicans with their outrgae du jour.
 
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