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(Pro Football Talk)   Fans want less blackouts, NFL allows teams to relax blackout thresholds. Colts say "Screw that, business as usual", Colts fans start buying tickets by the truckload. This fits the legal definition of an abusive relationship, right?   (profootballtalk.nbcsports.com) divider line 64
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2012-07-12 12:59:07 PM  

assjuice: What ever happened to the word 'fewer'?


It "may" have gone the same place as the word "might" That is only "based off" (fark!) personal observation.
 
2012-07-12 01:20:28 PM  
I just want to be able to watch out of market NFL games online like the MLB does without having to pay $500 to do it.

Or, just let me pick 1 out of market team (Dolphins, for me) to watch for a decent price, dammit.
 
2012-07-12 01:21:55 PM  

mjohnson71: El Brujo: I read this morning that the Bears just increased all tickets by 25% this year. Now the worst seats in the house are over $100 EA.

Screw that. Not only is watching football superior on an HD screen at home, out of principle, fark off.

I'm glad that my dad was able to take me to many games at Soldier Field when I was growing up in the 80's (we didn't have much money).

If I have a kid and I'm still making comparable money to what I make these days, that kid will be lucky to see more than a couple of live NFL games in his childhood. A $400 outing for a dad and son to go to an NFL game is outrageous.

I've still got a ticket stub from an early 80's St. Louis football Cardinal game. Our 3rd row of the upper deck 50 yard line seats are marked $16.50.


Cool! We used to sit on the 30 yard line I think 70 or so rows up from the field and I think those tickets were $35 or something. Great seats. The good old days when an NFL game smelled like a cigar.
 
2012-07-12 01:49:32 PM  

Weidbrewer: mjohnson71: Makes up for the 81 times a year PNC Park 1/10ths full.

/Must really suck to be a Pirates fan


What's a Pirate fan?


\Seriously, though - it's weird to actually have a team this year....but as I keep explaining to people - it's only July.


The Toronto Maple Leafs were 4th in the NHL at the all-star break this year. They finished the season at 10th in the east, 26th overall. So yes, it can be done. Don't celebrate yet.
 
2012-07-12 02:48:23 PM  

Mr. Coffee Nerves: mjohnson71: Mr. Coffee Nerves: I've had Eagles season tickets since 1998. A pair of seats six rows from outside in the upper deck end zone (formerly the 700 Level at the Vet).

My first season tickets were $35 each (face value was $50, but season ticket holders got a discount) and parking was $10.
This season my tickets are $70 each (face value - no more discount) and parking is $25. Shockingly those seats did NOT come with a Personal Seat License for the new stadium, but now that the team owner has divorced AND he's announced improvements to the stadium with an announced cost that would be precisely the amount raised by a $2,000/ticket PSL for the upper deck -- the lower deck seats did have PSLs from day one -- I think the writing on the wall is rather clear.

Jeez: that place is like 8 or 9 years old and it already needs renovation? What are they going to do?

From WPVI's coverage:
"Among the things being considered: improved video boards, a restaurant, more seats, and so-called field-level suites such as those built into the lower level of the Cowboys stadium in Dallas"

The restaurant will be a reason to cut back on tailgating hours and I saw those field-level "suites" in Dallas in person two years ago. I didn't sit in them, but those who did were at eye level with the backup offensive tackles ass -- doesn't seem like a "suite experience" to me.


Here in DC they are making a standing room only area for fans. Snyder wont be happy til he can cram a 100,000 people in there
 
2012-07-12 03:14:01 PM  
I don't see how blackout laws are legal. For one thing, the NFL has many publicly-funded stadiums. Also, aren't there very odd anti-monopolization broadcast rules that the league needs to follow?

The BIG reason why blackout rules are stupid has to do with PAID ADVERTISING. Not only is it absurd that local markets lose out on local advertising during a blackout, but national companies who advertise are also getting screwed a tad bit. Yes, acts of God (or whatever legal speak you can create) can happen and can reduce TV ratings during any given day. However, taking away a local market's broadcast is a willful act by the league, and it's depriving customers of what they paid for.

Incidentally, according to someone on ESPN, even NFL SUNDAY TICKET SUBSCRIBERS must deal with these blackout rules! So, you pay for a service yet STILL cannot see your games if there's a blackout? THAT is bullshiat.
 
2012-07-12 03:29:14 PM  

puffy999: I don't see how blackout laws are legal. For one thing, the NFL has many publicly-funded stadiums. Also, aren't there very odd anti-monopolization broadcast rules that the league needs to follow?

The BIG reason why blackout rules are stupid has to do with PAID ADVERTISING. Not only is it absurd that local markets lose out on local advertising during a blackout, but national companies who advertise are also getting screwed a tad bit. Yes, acts of God (or whatever legal speak you can create) can happen and can reduce TV ratings during any given day. However, taking away a local market's broadcast is a willful act by the league, and it's depriving customers of what they paid for.

Incidentally, according to someone on ESPN, even NFL SUNDAY TICKET SUBSCRIBERS must deal with these blackout rules! So, you pay for a service yet STILL cannot see your games if there's a blackout? THAT is bullshiat.


It kind of sucks when everyone realizes it's more fun to watch on TV, then you have a stadium that's empty 365 days/year instead of 350 or so. Plus they're totally going to notice the crowd noise being pumped in when there's 30 people in the stadium.
 
2012-07-12 03:33:04 PM  

Mr. Coffee Nerves: mjohnson71: Mr. Coffee Nerves: I've had Eagles season tickets since 1998. A pair of seats six rows from outside in the upper deck end zone (formerly the 700 Level at the Vet).

My first season tickets were $35 each (face value was $50, but season ticket holders got a discount) and parking was $10.
This season my tickets are $70 each (face value - no more discount) and parking is $25. Shockingly those seats did NOT come with a Personal Seat License for the new stadium, but now that the team owner has divorced AND he's announced improvements to the stadium with an announced cost that would be precisely the amount raised by a $2,000/ticket PSL for the upper deck -- the lower deck seats did have PSLs from day one -- I think the writing on the wall is rather clear.

Jeez: that place is like 8 or 9 years old and it already needs renovation? What are they going to do?

From WPVI's coverage:
"Among the things being considered: improved video boards, a restaurant, more seats, and so-called field-level suites such as those built into the lower level of the Cowboys stadium in Dallas"



Greeeaaat; so keeping up with the Jones'. :rolleyes:

North Texas =/ Philly
 
2012-07-12 05:14:10 PM  
I don't think I've paid to go to an NFL game in about a decade, I either score free tix or watch at home. Hell, I've turned down free tickets to Jerry's Cathedral because I didn't want to deal with the parking, traffic, crappy food prices and blowing an entire day on what could be a mediocre game.

/I'd rather watch at home
 
2012-07-12 05:20:59 PM  

IAmRight: It kind of sucks when everyone realizes it's more fun to watch on TV, then you have a stadium that's empty 365 days/year instead of 350 or so. Plus they're totally going to notice the crowd noise being pumped in when there's 30 people in the stadium.


Lower the prices. Take away seat licensing fees. Make it easier for "families" to go to games.

Television is the money maker. We want the seats to be full, but they don't have to be full AND out of the realm of financial possibility for the average family of four in a downtrodden economy.

And I'd probably be okay with blackouts being allowed if, say, you're the NFL's version of the Florida Marlins, Tampa Rays, or Atlanta Braves. However, that's a far cry from near-capacity. Besides... blackout rules aren't about filled seats, anyway, but ticket sales.
 
2012-07-12 06:31:58 PM  
So the source that calls are up is the team? OK, then. Must be accurate.
 
2012-07-13 02:13:07 AM  
Okay, did ANYONE not understand what subby was saying?

no?

Then shut up about it being the incorrect use of language. I mean, we are all proud that you paid attention in seventh grade English, but the rest of us -- well, we were busy NOT paying attention -- and guess what, the process of communication between us and you is unencumbered. Does the fact that you would have used the word fewer make you somehow more of an authority on subbys point?

It would be one thing if subby had said "foshizzle, abt 2 go apeshipe on da I-N-D CLTS, dey makeing a pituitary harder 2 go cuz blakoutz!!! andrw Luck YO!", but he didnt do that, he mistakenly used the "wrong" word according to your English teacher. How terrible. Lets mock him for the entire thread, completely ignoring the damage that the policy is doing to Colts fans.

Get a life. I mean it.

/ I left out the apostrophes on purpose, just to screw with your brain washed brains. oh... sorry, did I ruin your retort by telling you that?
// Yes, I realize there ARE no Colts fans...
 
2012-07-13 03:03:38 AM  

I sound fat: Okay, did ANYONE not understand what subby was saying?

no?

Then shut up about it being the incorrect use of language. I mean, we are all proud that you paid attention in seventh grade English, but the rest of us -- well, we were busy NOT paying attention -- and guess what, the process of communication between us and you is unencumbered. Does the fact that you would have used the word fewer make you somehow more of an authority on subbys point?

It would be one thing if subby had said "foshizzle, abt 2 go apeshipe on da I-N-D CLTS, dey makeing a pituitary harder 2 go cuz blakoutz!!! andrw Luck YO!", but he didnt do that, he mistakenly used the "wrong" word according to your English teacher. How terrible. Lets mock him for the entire thread, completely ignoring the damage that the policy is doing to Colts fans.

Get a life. I mean it.

/ I left out the apostrophes on purpose, just to screw with your brain washed brains. oh... sorry, did I ruin your retort by telling you that?
// Yes, I realize there ARE no Colts fans...


Are you retarded or retarded and drunk?
 
2012-07-13 03:17:37 AM  

redmid17: I sound fat: Okay, did ANYONE not understand what subby was saying?

no?

Then shut up about it being the incorrect use of language. I mean, we are all proud that you paid attention in seventh grade English, but the rest of us -- well, we were busy NOT paying attention -- and guess what, the process of communication between us and you is unencumbered. Does the fact that you would have used the word fewer make you somehow more of an authority on subbys point?

It would be one thing if subby had said "foshizzle, abt 2 go apeshipe on da I-N-D CLTS, dey makeing a pituitary harder 2 go cuz blakoutz!!! andrw Luck YO!", but he didnt do that, he mistakenly used the "wrong" word according to your English teacher. How terrible. Lets mock him for the entire thread, completely ignoring the damage that the policy is doing to Colts fans.

Get a life. I mean it.

/ I left out the apostrophes on purpose, just to screw with your brain washed brains. oh... sorry, did I ruin your retort by telling you that?
// Yes, I realize there ARE no Colts fans...

Are you retarded or retarded and drunk?


Oh, fifteen people attack the improper use of a word that caused no hindrance to ANYONE understanding what was being said, but *IM* the one with issues for pointing it out?

/ retarted and drunk.... sue me.
 
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