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2012-07-12 09:14:29 AM  
Yes, engaging in illegal activities in public (driving your car on public roads, where you should have no expecation of privacy) is far different than engaging in illegal activities in private (a house you own or an apartment you rent.)

Seriously people... do your illegal shiat in private. Its not that hard. I won't say I've never smoked a joint in my house. But for farks sake, I've never carrried any drugs in public, ever. Not in my car, not walking on the street.

Not saying I agree with the drug laws in this country... just saying the few times I may have gone against them, its been in private.
 
2012-07-12 11:14:29 AM  
A law professor has dissected the lyrics to 99 Problems for legal accuracy because, come on, how else do law professors get publicity?

www.mylinuxisp.com
 
2012-07-12 11:19:07 AM  

downstairs: Yes, engaging in illegal activities in public (driving your car on public roads, where you should have no expecation of privacy) is far different than engaging in illegal activities in private (a house you own or an apartment you rent.)

Seriously people... do your illegal shiat in private. Its not that hard. I won't say I've never smoked a joint in my house. But for farks sake, I've never carrried any drugs in public, ever. Not in my car, not walking on the street.

Not saying I agree with the drug laws in this country... just saying the few times I may have gone against them, its been in private.


I'm glad that you've chosen to dismember your bodies in private. Saves the rest of us a lot of plastic sheeting.
 
2012-07-12 12:45:13 PM  

downstairs: Seriously people... do your illegal shiat in private. Its not that hard. I won't say I've never smoked a joint in my house. But for farks sake, I've never carrried any drugs in public, ever. Not in my car, not walking on the street.


I guess the pot flew down your chimney and into your paper.
 
2012-07-12 12:47:06 PM  
how else do law professors get publicity?

Well, you could file frivolous lawsuits against internet personalities who know how to summon /b .
 
2012-07-12 12:47:15 PM  

Sir Not Sure The Unscannable: downstairs: Seriously people... do your illegal shiat in private. Its not that hard. I won't say I've never smoked a joint in my house. But for farks sake, I've never carrried any drugs in public, ever. Not in my car, not walking on the street.

I guess the pot flew down your chimney and into your paper.


It must have. He's got no clue how it got there, it's not even his!
 
2012-07-12 12:50:32 PM  
Were the problems luft?

/DNRTFA
 
2012-07-12 12:53:13 PM  

Sir Not Sure The Unscannable: downstairs: Seriously people... do your illegal shiat in private. Its not that hard. I won't say I've never smoked a joint in my house. But for farks sake, I've never carrried any drugs in public, ever. Not in my car, not walking on the street.

I guess the pot flew down your chimney and into your paper.


www.financialsensearchive.com

Oh Schnapps!
 
2012-07-12 12:55:38 PM  
Let's see him dissect the original version
 
2012-07-12 12:56:07 PM  

Sir Not Sure The Unscannable: downstairs: Seriously people... do your illegal shiat in private. Its not that hard. I won't say I've never smoked a joint in my house. But for farks sake, I've never carrried any drugs in public, ever. Not in my car, not walking on the street.

I guess the pot flew down your chimney and into your paper.


That, or maybe a friend brought it over.
 
2012-07-12 01:01:14 PM  
i.qkme.me


/oblig
 
2012-07-12 01:02:37 PM  
Using an extremely popular work of art to highlight how our legal system works in ways that most of us may encounter? Seems pretty damn reasonable. Unfortunately I wasn't able to open the .pdf linked in TFA.

All in all, every one of us can benefit from candid explanations or refreshers on our civil rights with regards to traffic stops and interactions with the police.

downstairs: Seriously people... do your illegal shiat in private.


Certainly a better strategy for avoiding trouble, but not foolproof:
0.tqn.com
 
2012-07-12 01:16:19 PM  

BKITU: A law professor has dissected the lyrics to 99 Problems for legal accuracy because, come on, how else do law professors get publicity?

[www.mylinuxisp.com image 404x320]


Done in two.
 
2012-07-12 01:18:20 PM  
That was a great read. Not some jackass doing it purely academically. It read like this guy knows the music and the culture, but could also explain the law cleanly. We should save this for future Fark threads about 4th Amendment traffic stops. Just post a link every time.
 
2012-07-12 01:22:29 PM  
Don't talk to the police: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6wXkI4t7nuc
 
2012-07-12 01:23:14 PM  
Damnit, clicky link this time:

Don't talk to the police: Linky
 
2012-07-12 01:24:45 PM  
I thought it was about how 99 red balloons started WW3
 
2012-07-12 01:29:36 PM  

I_Hate_Iowa: That was a great read. Not some jackass doing it purely academically. It read like this guy knows the music and the culture, but could also explain the law cleanly. We should save this for future Fark threads about 4th Amendment traffic stops. Just post a link every time.


Now having read it, I completely concur. Not that I ever have nor plan on transporting contraband I still want to know my rights. Innocent citizens have quite often ended up in a complete ass-whipping at the hands of the boys in blue when cops get their way and rights are not exercised.
 
2012-07-12 01:34:14 PM  
"Well you was doing fifty five in a fifty four"

I've never understood this - are there actually places where the speed limit is 54 mph?
 
2012-07-12 01:41:22 PM  

Glenford: "Well you was doing fifty five in a fifty four"

I've never understood this - are there actually places where the speed limit is 54 mph?


It's covered in the pdf... Basically there are so many rules of the road that if you follow someone for a few moments you'll find some reason to pull them over.
 
2012-07-12 01:48:41 PM  
 
2012-07-12 02:00:03 PM  
Some people have a lot of open space in their day planners.
 
2012-07-12 02:03:08 PM  

Glenford: "Well you was doing fifty five in a fifty four"

I've never understood this - are there actually places where the speed limit is 54 mph?


Driving While Black.
 
2012-07-12 02:05:03 PM  
Last footnote was funny. Well written & unbiased, like the law should be.
 
2012-07-12 02:06:44 PM  

downstairs: Sir Not Sure The Unscannable: downstairs: Seriously people... do your illegal shiat in private. Its not that hard. I won't say I've never smoked a joint in my house. But for farks sake, I've never carrried any drugs in public, ever. Not in my car, not walking on the street.

I guess the pot flew down your chimney and into your paper.

That, or maybe a friend brought it over.


So you'd advise a bunch of strangers on the internet to not do something but you're fine letting your friend do it ?
 
2012-07-12 02:12:57 PM  
Ever since his daughter was born, Jay-Z refuses to use the word "biatch". So now he's got an even 100 problems.
 
2012-07-12 02:37:20 PM  
From TFA:

If this Essay serves no other purpose, I hope it serves to debunk, for any readers who persist in believing it, the myth that locking your trunk will keep the cops from searching it. Based on the number of my students who arrived at law school believing that if you lock your trunk and glove compartment, the police will need a warrant to search them, I surmise that it's even more widespread among the lay public. But it's completely, 100% wrong. There is no warrant requirement for car searches.

Please tell me this isn't correct.
 
2012-07-12 02:42:36 PM  

j0e_average: From TFA:

If this Essay serves no other purpose, I hope it serves to debunk, for any readers who persist in believing it, the myth that locking your trunk will keep the cops from searching it. Based on the number of my students who arrived at law school believing that if you lock your trunk and glove compartment, the police will need a warrant to search them, I surmise that it's even more widespread among the lay public. But it's completely, 100% wrong. There is no warrant requirement for car searches.

Please tell me this isn't correct.


It is, in fact. A search of your vehicle requires probable cause, not a warrant. According to TFA the police may also, under some circumstances, check for accessible weapons if they have only reasonable suspicion that weapons are present.
 
2012-07-12 03:04:07 PM  

j0e_average: Please tell me this isn't correct.


No, it's correct. Vehicle searches and emergency entry into domiciles are probable-cause based, they don't require warrants and never have.

Is this really a wide-spread myth then? Because it seems kind of obvious to me, basic stuff on the level of "always decline consent" and "don't talk to the cops". Maybe I'm more familiar with search law than normal because I grew up in meth country.

//There was actually a half-lecture, half-comedy routine called "don't talk to the cops" that was floating around the internet a while back that broke down in detail exactly why volunteering information can only hurt you and never help you, if it isn't intuitively obvious to anyone.
 
2012-07-12 03:05:11 PM  

Zavulon: j0e_average: From TFA:

If this Essay serves no other purpose, I hope it serves to debunk, for any readers who persist in believing it, the myth that locking your trunk will keep the cops from searching it. Based on the number of my students who arrived at law school believing that if you lock your trunk and glove compartment, the police will need a warrant to search them, I surmise that it's even more widespread among the lay public. But it's completely, 100% wrong. There is no warrant requirement for car searches.

Please tell me this isn't correct.

It is, in fact. A search of your vehicle requires probable cause, not a warrant. According to TFA the police may also, under some circumstances, check for accessible weapons if they have only reasonable suspicion that weapons are present.


I have a family member in law enforcement. I'd like to believe he isn't that guy, but he may well be. He once told me regarding traffic stops, probable cause, etc that 'I could pull over a car just off the lot or out of the factory and find a legit reason for the stop.' I was never sure if that was an indictment of how many laws and regulations are out there, or police ability to find a way to be cocks. Maybe it's both.
 
2012-07-12 03:11:34 PM  
What's more likely?
A) to have your vehicle pulled over by a cop for speeding
B) to have a cop randomly stop by your house for tea and cookies?

If the answer is A, then you should probably not store your herbal remedies in the friggin' glove compartment of your vehicle

/if the answer is B, then get your b*tch ass in the kitchen and brew up some tea and cookies before you get a taserin'
 
2012-07-12 03:15:31 PM  
batlock666 "Ever since his daughter was born, Jay-Z refuses to use the word "biatch". So now he's got an even 100 problems."

Points for funny. But just because I actually read that whole thing (rtfa and then some!) he was referring to the K9 dog with that one.

You still get points for the joke though :)
 
2012-07-12 03:42:42 PM  

one small post for man: downstairs: Sir Not Sure The Unscannable: downstairs: Seriously people... do your illegal shiat in private. Its not that hard. I won't say I've never smoked a joint in my house. But for farks sake, I've never carrried any drugs in public, ever. Not in my car, not walking on the street.

I guess the pot flew down your chimney and into your paper.

That, or maybe a friend brought it over.

So you'd advise a bunch of strangers on the internet to not do something but you're fine letting your friend do it ?


I think they're idiots for doing it, but they're adults and I'm not their father.
 
2012-07-12 03:45:29 PM  

tentaculistic: batlock666 "Ever since his daughter was born, Jay-Z refuses to use the word "biatch". So now he's got an even 100 problems."

Points for funny. But just because I actually read that whole thing (rtfa and then some!) he was referring to the K9 dog with that one.

You still get points for the joke though :)


He claims he is, but it seems like it's pretty clear he's calling the officer that pulled him over a biatch.
 
2012-07-12 04:24:27 PM  

downstairs: one small post for man: downstairs: Sir Not Sure The Unscannable: downstairs: Seriously people... do your illegal shiat in private. Its not that hard. I won't say I've never smoked a joint in my house. But for farks sake, I've never carrried any drugs in public, ever. Not in my car, not walking on the street.

I guess the pot flew down your chimney and into your paper.

That, or maybe a friend brought it over.

So you'd advise a bunch of strangers on the internet to not do something but you're fine letting your friend do it ?

I think they're idiots for doing it, but they're adults and I'm not their father.


Not much of a friend either it seems
 
2012-07-12 05:39:14 PM  

Mr Guy: tentaculistic: batlock666 "Ever since his daughter was born, Jay-Z refuses to use the word "biatch". So now he's got an even 100 problems."

Points for funny. But just because I actually read that whole thing (rtfa and then some!) he was referring to the K9 dog with that one.

You still get points for the joke though :)

He claims he is, but it seems like it's pretty clear he's calling the officer that pulled him over a biatch.


He's not doing either. He's saying "My life can be messed up sometimes and I have all kinds of problems to deal with, for example here's a story about cops and traffic. But I don't have a wife nagging my ass all the time. Thus, although I got lots of problems (let's just say 99 of them), I do not count among my problems a woman giving me shiat all the time. A biatch is not one of my problems."

Thought this was obvious to everyone.
 
2012-07-12 08:47:20 PM  
RELIGION OF LAWS, NOT OF MEN
 
2012-07-12 10:05:03 PM  
upload.wikimedia.org
she has 99 unshaved hairs under her arms
 
2012-07-13 12:09:12 AM  
Two rules:

1: Don't get caught
2: Lie
 
2012-07-14 07:53:39 AM  

Glenford: "Well you was doing fifty five in a fifty four"

I've never understood this - are there actually places where the speed limit is 54 mph?


...says an oviously white guy...

/been stopped plenty of times for DWB..
 
2012-07-14 04:13:13 PM  

rudemix: Zavulon: j0e_average: From TFA:

If this Essay serves no other purpose, I hope it serves to debunk, for any readers who persist in believing it, the myth that locking your trunk will keep the cops from searching it. Based on the number of my students who arrived at law school believing that if you lock your trunk and glove compartment, the police will need a warrant to search them, I surmise that it's even more widespread among the lay public. But it's completely, 100% wrong. There is no warrant requirement for car searches.

Please tell me this isn't correct.

It is, in fact. A search of your vehicle requires probable cause, not a warrant. According to TFA the police may also, under some circumstances, check for accessible weapons if they have only reasonable suspicion that weapons are present.

I have a family member in law enforcement. I'd like to believe he isn't that guy, but he may well be. He once told me regarding traffic stops, probable cause, etc that 'I could pull over a car just off the lot or out of the factory and find a legit reason for the stop.' I was never sure if that was an indictment of how many laws and regulations are out there, or police ability to find a way to be cocks. Maybe it's both.


I think in general it's true that they can always find a reason for a stop. There are a huge number of traffic regulations, and most people drive in a pretty sloppy fashion.

But, a simple traffic stop by itself doesn't usually give probable cause to search the car. There has to be some other factor present. Of course, as the paper linked from the article pointed out, if the person being stopped is a dick about it the officer always has the option of arresting them, impounding the car, and legally searching it at their leisure.
 
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