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(Phys Org2)   Global warming may cause stressed cows to udderly decrease milk production in certain parts of the country   (phys.org) divider line 64
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2012-07-12 12:24:00 AM
All right then, let's get mooving with the puns.
 
2012-07-12 12:35:15 AM
Chickens lay less eggs in the heat. Cows and goats milk less. Pigs eat less.

Folks! This will impact the bacon supply!
 
2012-07-12 12:36:10 AM
unlike your mom, cows don't like their teats touched when it's hot .
 
2012-07-12 12:47:39 AM
Subby, I have a beef with that headline.
 
2012-07-12 12:56:29 AM
It'll be offset by the increase in cottage cheese production

/or they'll have to moo-ve to cow-ler climes
 
2012-07-12 03:24:01 AM
stressed cows have decreased milk production

ok, here's what I do for you, cow. I take you on a date, I throw a cheesburger down your throat (it don't mean nothin)

then, I bounce you up and down on my dick like a plastic fuk doll
 
2012-07-12 03:48:27 AM
Impacts the quality of the beef too. Texas *cough*.
 
2012-07-12 04:52:36 AM
Oh, cud it out, subby.
 
2012-07-12 05:36:01 AM
This headline lac(ks)ta(s)tes.
 
2012-07-12 05:37:18 AM
Offhand mention of climate change in paper abstract as possible source of relevance turns into "paper claims that global warming will cause cows in florida to suck".

No. Bad reporter. The report said no such thing, it noted that milk production correlates to elements of already-existing climates.

Cyno01: Impacts the quality of the beef too. Texas *cough*.


If heat and damp reduce the quality of beef, we're probably kind of screwed since the vast majority of it comes from, y'know, farking south America near the equator by the rain forest.

//Cow meat is basically cow meat, especially since the majority of the US stuff is corn-fed from literally the same stock, kinda negating any regional impact on the feed plants.
 
2012-07-12 05:37:45 AM
On the plus side if the price of milk goes up I can say to people at least gas is less expensive than milk.
 
2012-07-12 05:46:34 AM
every freaking farmer knows this. the little i know about cows is when i was a farm hand over 30 years ago. a milk cow's life is eating which is enjoyable to her to produce milk. but just like when you drink too much and can't pee she gets uncomfortable when she isn't milked on time. even only 30 minutes late to milk her can piss her off. she will start to eat less and less because she can't trust you will milk her at the proper time and she doesn't want to feel uncomfortable. she is getting too hot or cold and isn't comfortable so is saying screw it i don't want to produce milk on these hot days. the same crap happens when the daylight saving time changes. you have to change the milking time by 15 minutes for a bit if you want to milk them at the new/old whatever time on your watch.
 
2012-07-12 06:11:30 AM

tolallorti: On the plus side if the price of milk goes up I can say to people at least gas is less expensive than milk.


Isn't it already?

/It is in Canada
 
2012-07-12 06:54:37 AM
More hormones. Hormones are the cure for what ails ya. Pretty soon, girls will start hitting puberty in the third trimester.
 
2012-07-12 07:26:16 AM
Good thing I'm lactose intolerant-that means I can go buy that Hummer now!
 
2012-07-12 07:41:02 AM
No, this can't be true. A certain cynical, patronizing and arrogant FARKer who posts in Green Text tells me it can't be true, and it's just another one of those Goddamn Liberal Pussy Lies.

If we can't trust that certain Green Text using FARKer, who can we trust?!
 
2012-07-12 08:14:58 AM

BronyMedic: If we can't trust that certain Green Text using FARKer, who can we trust?!


Do we now consider him the Bevets of climate threads?

He needs a Magic card.
 
2012-07-12 08:22:03 AM

Jim_Callahan: If heat and damp reduce the quality of beef, we're probably kind of screwed since the vast majority of it comes from, y'know, farking south America near the equator by the rain forest.


Nope. The U.S. produces more beef than any other country. Brazil, India, and China produce more animals, but less beef.
Link
 
2012-07-12 08:46:27 AM
That's ok VEGAN HARDCORE BREAKOUT
 
2012-07-12 09:11:38 AM
Holy cow, what a tale.

/Welp, better moo've on to work.
 
2012-07-12 09:14:58 AM
What global warming?

www.woodfortrees.org

Hey, it's only 15 years of no increase. Probably just weather, right?
 
2012-07-12 09:21:17 AM

starlost: . even only 30 minutes late to milk her can piss her off. she will start to eat less and less because she can't trust you will milk her at the proper time and she doesn't want to feel uncomfortable


Wow, were you working with cows from Mensa?

/grew up on a farm
//cow intelligence is maybe a few points higher than chickens
///smartest were horses and pigs and this one damn fox that took us 3 years to even SEE
 
2012-07-12 09:53:35 AM

jakomo002: Wow, were you working with cows from Mensa?


"Animals respond to environmental cues and adjust their behavior in response to pattern changes, more at 11 as our reporter on the street Captain Obvious digs deep to find out if people tend to stay inside when it rains".

Just because an animal doesn't or can't respond consciously to changes it experiences doesn't mean it can't respond at all. Most animals thrive on safe and established patterns and will react poorly if those patterns are broken until the pattern is returned or a new one is established.

Just because animals are adaptable doesn't mean their aren't negative affects during the adaptation.
 
2012-07-12 10:02:17 AM
As someone who spent his college years (mid 90's) building and selling evaporative cooling systems for hogs & fowl, I'm getting a kick, etc.
 
2012-07-12 10:06:45 AM
Good thing global warming isn't real.
 
2012-07-12 10:14:33 AM

Petey4335: As someone who spent his college years (mid 90's) building and selling evaporative cooling systems for hogs & fowl, I'm getting a kick, etc.


Evaporative cooling systems that just happen to be easily modified to function as marijuana vaporizers.
 
2012-07-12 10:18:49 AM
Is there anything Global Warming can't do?

http://www.numberwatch.co.uk/warmlist.htm
 
2012-07-12 10:28:23 AM
Looks like the red states are going to get screwed again by GW ... burn baby burn.

/karma's a biatch
 
2012-07-12 10:35:18 AM

SevenizGud: What global warming?

[www.woodfortrees.org image 640x480]

Hey, it's only 15 years of no increase. Probably just weather, right?


This global warming:
i39.tinypic.com

Hey it's only 40 years of sustained increase. Probably just weather, right?
 
2012-07-12 11:02:59 AM
Okay, let's look at this LOGICALLY.


IF higher temperatures are going to cause cows to stop producing milk then why do cows along the equator produce milk? Why do cows in some of the hottest places on the planet produce milk?

Those places have a much hotter average temperature now than the midwest of the USA will have as an average temperature any time in the next two hundred years.
 
2012-07-12 11:10:09 AM

chuckufarlie: Okay, let's look at this LOGICALLY.

IF higher temperatures are going to cause cows to stop producing milk then why do cows along the equator produce milk? Why do cows in some of the hottest places on the planet produce milk?

Those places have a much hotter average temperature now than the midwest of the USA will have as an average temperature any time in the next two hundred years.


Your logic may be impeccable (though I would imagine there are different breeds of cow with different heat tolerances, so perhaps not), you've fallen at the first hurdle by misstating the issue:

Decrease != Stop
 
2012-07-12 11:11:26 AM

SevenizGud: What global warming?

www.woodfortrees.org

Hey, it's only 15 years of no increase. Probably just weather, right?


Although unsuccessful troll is unsuccessful, for those who don't understand what's incredibly stupid about this:

From the World Meteorological Organization:

What is Climate?

Climate in a narrow sense is usually defined as the "average weather," or more rigorously, as the statistical description in terms of the mean and variability of relevant quantities over a period of time ranging from months to thousands or millions of years. The classical period is 30 years, as defined by the World Meteorological Organization (WMO). These quantities are most often surface variables such as temperature, precipitation, and wind. Climate in a wider sense is the state, including a statistical description, of the climate system.


But perhaps the WMO is part of the GLOBALHOAXLOL! conspiracy.

Are there any actual statistical justifications for claiming a period of about 30 years is necessary to meaningfully discuss temperature trends when no other factors are considered?

It turns out, yes, there are. You need at least ~20-30 or more years to meaningfully discuss trends in global average temperature.

Does that mean that we can never meaningfully discuss temperature trends on shorter than 20-30 year timescales? Not necessarily. We can do things like smooth out the effects of ENSO, solar, volcanism, etc., use optimal fingerprinting methods with models, employ other tests besides OLS regression.

But if all one looks at are globally averaged surface temperature and linear trends, 15 years is in fact not a sufficiently long period over which to meaningfully discuss OLS trends.

Not to mention, the data you're using end in March, and come from a data set that has been demonstrated to have a cool bias due to its failure to capture the strong warming in the Arctic. HadCRUT has been upgraded to a newer version (HadCRUT4) to address this, but I think that it too is missing quite a few recent months.

The UAH satellite data, which typically show less warming than the surface instrumental record, are in through June 2012, and the linear trend over the past 15 years is positive (though not statistically or climatologically significant):

i.imgur.com
 
2012-07-12 11:18:45 AM

dillengest: chuckufarlie: Okay, let's look at this LOGICALLY.

IF higher temperatures are going to cause cows to stop producing milk then why do cows along the equator produce milk? Why do cows in some of the hottest places on the planet produce milk?

Those places have a much hotter average temperature now than the midwest of the USA will have as an average temperature any time in the next two hundred years.

Your logic may be impeccable (though I would imagine there are different breeds of cow with different heat tolerances, so perhaps not), you've fallen at the first hurdle by misstating the issue:

Decrease != Stop


IF higher temperatures are going to cause cows to decrease the output of milk then why do cows along the equator produce milk? Why do cows in some of the hottest places on the planet produce milk?

Those places have a much hotter average temperature now than the midwest of the USA will have as an average temperature any time in the next two hundred years.

feel better, dumbass?
 
2012-07-12 11:21:14 AM
A complete list of things caused by global warming

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and all on 0.006 deg C per year!

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2012-07-12 11:33:08 AM

chuckufarlie: dillengest: chuckufarlie: Okay, let's look at this LOGICALLY.

IF higher temperatures are going to cause cows to stop producing milk then why do cows along the equator produce milk? Why do cows in some of the hottest places on the planet produce milk?

Those places have a much hotter average temperature now than the midwest of the USA will have as an average temperature any time in the next two hundred years.

Your logic may be impeccable (though I would imagine there are different breeds of cow with different heat tolerances, so perhaps not), you've fallen at the first hurdle by misstating the issue:

Decrease != Stop

IF higher temperatures are going to cause cows to decrease the output of milk then why do cows along the equator produce milk? Why do cows in some of the hottest places on the planet produce milk?

Those places have a much hotter average temperature now than the midwest of the USA will have as an average temperature any time in the next two hundred years.

feel better, dumbass?


Sadly your logic is now broken. If lions eat gazelles and lions exist, why are there gazelles which haven't been eaten?
 
2012-07-12 11:36:22 AM

nicksteel: A complete cherry-picked list of things caused affected by global warming climatic variables that are in turn affected by a changing climate, which are presented as being in conflict often when they are not, and depends on media rather than scientific sources


Fixed.

As much as that turd can be.
 
2012-07-12 11:39:15 AM

chuckufarlie: IF higher temperatures are going to cause cows to decrease the output of milk then why do cows along the equator produce milk? Why do cows in some of the hottest places on the planet produce milk?

Those places have a much hotter average temperature now than the midwest of the USA will have as an average temperature any time in the next two hundred years.

feel better, dumbass?


Why would you want cows in the US to make the same amount of milk as cows at the equator? You know, where all the famine is?

/we are the world
/we are the children
 
2012-07-12 11:41:16 AM

Jon Snow: You need at least ~20-30 or more years to meaningfully discuss trends in global average temperature.


Didn't stop Chicken Little Hansen from chirping only 8 years after a 40-year decline.

But hey, what's more scientific than a double standard?
 
2012-07-12 11:54:57 AM

SevenizGud: Didn't stop Chicken Little Hansen from chirping only 8 years after a 40-year decline.


You might have a point if instead of making an argument based on, you know, physics Hasnen was basing claims off of a naive OLS regression, like you're doing.

SevenizGud: But hey, what's more scientific than a double standard?


Do you get some sort of satisfaction out of being spectacularly, publicly, invariably wrong?
 
2012-07-12 12:04:12 PM

dillengest: chuckufarlie: dillengest: chuckufarlie: Okay, let's look at this LOGICALLY.

IF higher temperatures are going to cause cows to stop producing milk then why do cows along the equator produce milk? Why do cows in some of the hottest places on the planet produce milk?

Those places have a much hotter average temperature now than the midwest of the USA will have as an average temperature any time in the next two hundred years.

Your logic may be impeccable (though I would imagine there are different breeds of cow with different heat tolerances, so perhaps not), you've fallen at the first hurdle by misstating the issue:

Decrease != Stop

IF higher temperatures are going to cause cows to decrease the output of milk then why do cows along the equator produce milk? Why do cows in some of the hottest places on the planet produce milk?

Those places have a much hotter average temperature now than the midwest of the USA will have as an average temperature any time in the next two hundred years.

feel better, dumbass?

Sadly your logic is now broken. If lions eat gazelles and lions exist, why are there gazelles which haven't been eaten?


my logic is broken? Yours is pathetic.

It is this sort of "thinking" that makes you believe in AGW.
 
2012-07-12 12:11:09 PM

Jon Snow: nicksteel: A complete cherry-picked list of things caused affected by global warming climatic variables that are in turn affected by a changing climate, which are presented as being in conflict often when they are not, and depends on media rather than scientific sources

Fixed.

As much as that turd can be.


first of all, you seem to have no idea what "cherry picked" means. Maybe you should learn the meaning of words and phrases BEFORE you use them. I can only guess that you heard somebody else use the term "cherry picked" and thought you would sound intelligent if you used it. Sadly, that did not happen.

Everyone of the items on that list (except the dead link list) can be linked to a website that provides an explanation of how climate change is impacting it. And since you posted your response so quickly, it is obvious that you did not check them out.

Once again you have shown that you are NOT interested in the truth. You pretend to be so concerned about the truth but then you lie.
 
2012-07-12 12:12:38 PM

Jon Snow: SevenizGud: Didn't stop Chicken Little Hansen from chirping only 8 years after a 40-year decline.

You might have a point if instead of making an argument based on, you know, physics Hasnen was basing claims off of a naive OLS regression, like you're doing.

SevenizGud: But hey, what's more scientific than a double standard?

Do you get some sort of satisfaction out of being spectacularly, publicly, invariably wrong?


why? Are you looking for people like you to join a club?
 
2012-07-12 12:22:57 PM
I hear Global Warming™ causes toe fungus too.
 
2012-07-12 12:55:36 PM

Spare Me: I hear Global Warming™ causes toe fungus too.


so does not changing your socks often enough, or getting your boots wet too often.
 
2012-07-12 12:59:59 PM

chuckufarlie: IF higher temperatures are going to cause cows to decrease the output of milk then why do cows along the equator produce milk?


They produce milk because they are cows and being cows they have udders which produce milk. They produce a lower quantity of milk due to the higher temperatures. The clues are in the question.

Now the hard question is, how much wood can a woodchuck chuck if a woodchuck is chuckufarlie?

/did you see what I did there?
 
2012-07-12 01:08:44 PM
Already devolved into a troll/feeder frenzy. Way to kill a thread, guys.
 
2012-07-12 01:13:52 PM

LouDobbsAwaaaay: Already devolved into a troll/feeder frenzy. Way to kill a thread, guys.


You are taking this too seriously.
 
2012-07-12 01:17:33 PM

dready zim: chuckufarlie: IF higher temperatures are going to cause cows to decrease the output of milk then why do cows along the equator produce milk?

They produce milk because they are cows and being cows they have udders which produce milk. They produce a lower quantity of milk due to the higher temperatures. The clues are in the question.

Now the hard question is, how much wood can a woodchuck chuck if a woodchuck is chuckufarlie?

/did you see what I did there?


can you prove that cows along the equator under the same conditions except for the temperature, produce less milk than a cow in Kansas?

Yea, I did not think so.
BTW, your explanation about why cows produce milk is, like your description of the climate, is simplistic and wrong.
 
2012-07-12 01:36:10 PM
chuckufarlie: can you prove that cows along the equator under the same conditions except for the temperature, produce less milk than a cow in Kansas?

Yea, I did not think so.


Well, I'm going to go out on a limb here...
Milk Production, per cow, per country
Top milk producers, per country.

I'm going to go ahead and say dairy farming in Australia is the same as the US, and they make significantly less milk per cow... and it's hotter. Brazil's cows make sweet fark all, yet they're the #6 producer int he world, so they have to have a ton of cows down there... so I will also assume having that many head of cows needs similar conditions than those in the US.

Now, granted, I don't know about hormone treatment in these other countries... hell, I don't know how hormoes will be affected by increased heat in the US. We could have a zombie cow apocalypse, for all I know...


Now then, on the other hand...

Milk perduction per cow in the US

In 2011, the average US cow produced 21,345 lbs of milk, which is an increase of 197 lbs per cow over 2010
In Jan 2012, the average cow produced 1,857 lbs of milk, an increase of of 46 lbs over Jan 2011.

So even though the average temp is going up, so is the average amount of milk per cow. Whether or not practices/hormones have changed over the course of the year, I can't answer.
 
2012-07-12 01:39:57 PM

wippit: chuckufarlie: can you prove that cows along the equator under the same conditions except for the temperature, produce less milk than a cow in Kansas?

Yea, I did not think so.


Well, I'm going to go out on a limb here...
Milk Production, per cow, per country
Top milk producers, per country.

I'm going to go ahead and say dairy farming in Australia is the same as the US, and they make significantly less milk per cow... and it's hotter. Brazil's cows make sweet fark all, yet they're the #6 producer int he world, so they have to have a ton of cows down there... so I will also assume having that many head of cows needs similar conditions than those in the US.

Now, granted, I don't know about hormone treatment in these other countries... hell, I don't know how hormoes will be affected by increased heat in the US. We could have a zombie cow apocalypse, for all I know...


Now then, on the other hand...

Milk perduction per cow in the US

In 2011, the average US cow produced 21,345 lbs of milk, which is an increase of 197 lbs per cow over 2010
In Jan 2012, the average cow produced 1,857 lbs of milk, an increase of of 46 lbs over Jan 2011.

So even though the average temp is going up, so is the average amount of milk per cow. Whether or not practices/hormones have changed over the course of the year, I can't answer.


good point with the hormones. Also, the quantity and quality of the food they receive.
 
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