People who move to Arizona deserve to be bitten by rattlesnakes.

I don't mind the javelina as much as the assholes who think they're pets, feeding them and doing their best to attract the vile little bastards.

If those jackasses hadn't convinced the javelina that people are just food dispensers, I wouldn't have to run them off on a daily basis and occasionally be forced to more extreme measures.

El_Frijole_Blanco: violentsalvation: texdent: javelinas?

Peccary. Wild hog-like creatures. You know.

They do not however taste like chicken

I was hoping for bacon.

/always hoping for bacon ...

Nadie_AZ: I try not to hate people like this.See answers, people! I see answers you don't want to select. I'd imagine they think they are Tax Enough Already.

I think you're reading far too much into this.

I suspect most dog owners would prefer a nearby dog park than one far away, and I don't see what you see in what you quoted to suggest they are not willing to pay for that.

The women said they're forced to let their dogs off the leash, in their neighborhood, because their pets need exercise.

If you don't have a big farking back yard, don't get a big farking dog. A small dog can run around your apartment or house. A big dog needs room to run, but the city isn't responsible for providing your dog with a playroom. You selfishly and irresponsibly bought a dog, not caring that you couldn't provide for it. Your stupidity is not my responsibility.

cretinbob: harshly awakened by the sound of six rounds of light
caliber rifle fire followed minutes later by the booming of nine rounds
from a heavier rifle, but you can't close off the wilderness. he heard
the snick of a rifle bolt and found himself staring down the muzzle of a
weapon held by a drunken liquor store owner. "there's a conflict," he
said. "there's a conflict between land and people...the people have to
go. they've come all the way out here to make mining claims, to do
automobile body work, to gamble, to take pictures, to not have to do
laundry, to own a mini-bike, to have their own cb radios and air
conditioning, good plumbing for sure, and to sell time/life books and to
work in a deli, to have some chili every morning and maybe...maybe to own
their own gas stations again and to take drugs and have some crazy sex,
but above all, above all to have a fair shake, to get a piece of the rock
and a slice of the pie and to spit out the window of your car and not
have the wind blow it back in your face."


* slow clap *

FTA The women said they're forced to let their dogs off the leash, in their neighborhood, because their pets need exercise.

So her solution to the wild animals that run around and harass people and animals, is to let her dog run around to harass people and animals?

Infobahn: I went to an Owl lecture at McDowell Mountain Park (North, North Scottsdale/Rio Verde),

Nothing I hate more than being lectured to by owls.

Gyrfalcon: I just go ahead and hate them, because f*ck you for not thinking of the fact you were moving to a wild, unfenced, hostile neighborhood in the middle of the desert. Next, she'll be complaining because it's all so sandy and dry and would look so much better with a green belt and some large fountains and a canal in the dog park.

Where I live in Phoenix, there is very little hint there is a desert around. All the cacti were intentionally brought in and planted. There are no empty desert lots, just regular empty lots.

I am not sure my kids would recognize the desert until we get on the freeway and drive for 30 minutes or more.

Phoenix down to Tucson and probably up to Prescott is said to be one big megacity by 2050 or something.

Most homeowners don't want to see the desert, they just want cheap housing, and big housing, and a garage for 2-3 cars and a boat or RV and a pool.

Nuke this farking place.

DAMN Nature you scary

skinink: ""Dogs are family members right? We should have a dog park and that's the way I feel," said Ernst."
Lady, you don't know how much I would like to fence in some of my family members and relatives in a people park, and leave them there. And maybe for good measure throw the rattlesnakes and jaelinas in the park anyways.

I want to set up a rattlesnake petting zoo for some of my relatives.

fusillade762: HavalinaWalking in the breezeOn the plains of old SegonaArizonaAmong the treesHavalina

That javelina is so egregiously misspelled destroys the credibility of that song.

10:40 pm, 103 degrees outside, and a terrible (as in terribly lame and terribly weak) monsoon going on.

I don't know if it's urban island or global warming, but the lightning and monsoons used to be so much better, really wonderful.

Just take this guy with you when you walk your dog:

ecmoRandomNumbers: Anthem is a shiathole. They never should've been able to build that place so far up I-17 and clog traffic for 20 miles. The best thing that could happen to that place is a firebomb.

They also messed up some beautiful desert to build it. I used to go exploring up there, and it was always nice hitting that stretch coming out of Phoenix before heading higher at Black Canyon City. I think it's still pretty nice on the west side of I-17 over toward Crown King, plenty of area to get out in the middle of nowhere (just take a high-clearance vehicle and a couple of shovels). I don't mind the expansion out along I-10 as much (toward Chandler and the other way out around Buckeye) since out in the flats it's mostly greasewood scrub, but getting into the canyons in the 2000-4000 ft range you start getting some great biodiversity and beautiful scenery.

It's also interesting to note the difference in attitude between Phoenix and Tucson toward living on the urban-wilderness boundary. In Phoenix if someone sees anything other than their own pet their first instinct is to kill it, while the people who live in the canyons coming off the Catalinas in Tucson think it's the coolest thing in the world to see a bobcat strolling through their back yard.

But at this point I have no dog in that race. I left AZ in '99 and have no real desire to move back. I lived in AZ and southern NM most of my life until then and still visit friends and family there once a year or so, but I've come to realize how much I like rain and cool weather.

violentsalvation: RoyBatty: I don't know if it's urban island or global warming, but the lightning and monsoons used to be so much better, really wonderful.

I had a couple nice little rains and then not much of anything. I'm used to it though, and it is early still. I'm expecting a real gully-washer anytime now.

Are those damn gullies dirty again already?

"Dogs are family members right? We should have a dog park and that's the way I feel," said Ernst.

Geez, I'll bet this clown is for man on dog marriage as well.

Because I know some of you were wondering..

Nadie_AZ: I'd imagine they think they are Tax Enough Already.

Came to say this.

"Dogs are family members right? We should have a dog park and that's the way I feel," said Ernst.

Please tell me they're teabaggers. Because that would be awesome.

Gyrfalcon: I'm guessing that there are not a lot of herds of javelinas running around downtown Phoenix., If there are, you have my deepest sympathy.

Sigh. When I lived in LA, there were deer on the freeway (San Diego), and deer, raccoons, coyote, and possible mountain lion within 5 minutes of Dodger Stadium, right next to downtown LA.

In Berkeley, we had deer, raccoons on our very urban street five minutes from downtown Berkeley and a mountain lion running through downtown Berkeley a few years ago.

In Phoenix, we're pretty lucky when we see a rattlesnake within 20 minutes of downtown (Piestewa Park, Camelback and South Mountain), and I've only seen javelina when I get pretty far out of town.

Lots of cougars though, I'm pretty sure from the looks of their skin they are Nestene Consciousness.

They are SO CUTE! Want.

El_Frijole_Blanco: violentsalvation: texdent: javelinas?

Peccary. Wild hog-like creatures. You know.

They do not however taste like chicken

Must admit, my midwestern brain processes that word and expects something more... streamlined. Javelina? More like devildeathpork.

1. Move your yuppie family into new developments on the outskirts of nature
2. Enjoy the beautiful scenery and brag to your friends closer to the city about the wonderful nature
3. Destroy, pave over, kill, demolish scenery since the nature is inconvenient to you
4. When your cheap housing development falls over, or when undesirables move into the neighborhood, move further away to the new outskirts of suburbia
5. All nature is destroyed, congratulations, you win!

ifarkthereforiam: "Dogs are family members right? We should have a dog park and that's the way I feel," said Ernst.

Geez, I'll bet this clown is for man on dog marriage as well.

Depends. Is the dawg hawt?

come at me, bro