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(Oregon Live)   Man loses dog, man finds dog, woman won't give dog back, woman sues man   (oregonlive.com ) divider line 211
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2012-07-12 08:45:21 AM  

doglover: Kiwimann: I'm not entirely sure how it's supposed to be this woman's fault that she doesn't give "his" dog back.

The part where the dog recognizes him. The part where the law recognizes him. The part where morality says it's the right thing to do. The part where if it was your dog and you'd found it and the original owners came by you'd give it up too.

There's a whole lot going on here, and nothing this woman's done has been the right thing.


I would just like to point out that my 2-year-old dog is around me all day long and has grown fairly ambivalent to my existence. Whenever he gets to meet someone new, it is as though he is meeting his long-lost owner.

Anyway, this lady sounds like a super b*tch.
 
2012-07-12 08:46:02 AM  

Carth: HotWingConspiracy: I can't imagine she has any hope of winning this case. As soon as the animal investigator takes the stand, she's toast.

The article makes it sound like she doesn't have to win the case only make it expensive enough so the rightful owner can't fight it. If he is a father of 2 he might be reluctant to spend $3000-5000 in legal fees to get his dog back.


Surely the internet can take care of that? Any ideas, people?
 
2012-07-12 08:50:16 AM  

Swiss Colony: Jesus Christ what an infuriating article "keep reading to find out the ruling" and wade though a load of padding (I presume, I read one more paragraph, got bored and skipped to the end).


I liked how it was written. The author did a solid job of holding the readers attention and holding you on the site/page (key). Sure, she may have gotten a little too enamored of her vocabulary and gone into too many minor details, but the writing was clean and moved quickly. As a writer, I could see the skill and sense the heart of the journalist and found it charming. It was done exactly as it should.
 
2012-07-12 08:51:22 AM  
Take my dog? That's a killin'!

I can understand her wanting to keep the dog she found, but it isn't hers. She can't prove she followed the necessary steps to claim the dog after finding it roaming. The guy can prove he went through all sorts of effort to find his dog.

I have zero sympathy for this cnut, and actually wish her the worst things life has to offer her...
 
2012-07-12 08:54:20 AM  
gmoney101: Why does everything end up in a law suit in America?

Because juries are dumb enough to let some of these idiots win.
 
2012-07-12 08:54:55 AM  

doglover: Kiwimann: I'm not entirely sure how it's supposed to be this woman's fault that she doesn't give "his" dog back.

The part where the dog recognizes him. The part where the law recognizes him. The part where morality says it's the right thing to do. The part where if it was your dog and you'd found it and the original owners came by you'd give it up too.

There's a whole lot going on here, and nothing this woman's done has been the right thing.


Now be nice. This is probably her first encounter with the word "no", and mammy and daddy weren't even there to guide her through that harrowing experience.

/I can sympathise that she's probably after getting attached to the dog, but she needs to give him back a.s.a.p.
//Also shouldn't the law be enforced by the police, or something?
 
2012-07-12 08:54:59 AM  

kobrakai: Carth: HotWingConspiracy: I can't imagine she has any hope of winning this case. As soon as the animal investigator takes the stand, she's toast.

The article makes it sound like she doesn't have to win the case only make it expensive enough so the rightful owner can't fight it. If he is a father of 2 he might be reluctant to spend $3000-5000 in legal fees to get his dog back.

Surely the internet can take care of that? Any ideas, people?


counter-sue for receiving stolen property. small claims court limit is now - what - $20k?
 
2012-07-12 08:55:44 AM  
How can a dog possibly help you with asthma? Does she just strap a vest on it and fill the vest with extra inhalers? Get a service monkey. An animal with thumbs. An animal that can hold an inhaler to your mouth or maybe perform monkey cpr (I have no idea if monkeys can be trained do this. It probably just beats your chest till a rib breaks, then throws a turd at the first responders). Either way, give this wigger his mutt back!!
 
2012-07-12 08:57:42 AM  
As someone with asthma - a dog isn't going to do a damn thing for you. I would argue it could make it worse.

/both my pups are microchipped
//live in a neighborhood where almost everyone owns a dog - dogs get out of yards - it happens - you keep the dog and call the owner - if the dog doesn't have a collar - any of the local vets will scan for the chip free of charge
 
2012-07-12 08:57:58 AM  

Lor M. Ipsum:

I would just like to point out that my 2-year-old dog is around me all day long and has grown fairly ambivalent to my existence. Whenever he gets to meet someone new, it is as though he is meeting his long-lost owner.


You know, I have a two-year old human with the same problem. Maybe it's an age thing.
 
2012-07-12 09:00:22 AM  

AnubisMan: LL316: Fark her. Fark her long, and fark her hard.

[media.oregonlive.com image 640x963]

Uh... You first.


That is a rather rough and unfarkable looking 20. No thanks. I wouldn't hit it with a borrowed dick.
 
2012-07-12 09:08:18 AM  

kobrakai: Carth: HotWingConspiracy: I can't imagine she has any hope of winning this case. As soon as the animal investigator takes the stand, she's toast.

The article makes it sound like she doesn't have to win the case only make it expensive enough so the rightful owner can't fight it. If he is a father of 2 he might be reluctant to spend $3000-5000 in legal fees to get his dog back.

Surely the internet can take care of that? Any ideas, people?


I seem to be in the minority here, but I think she should be able to keep the dog. If she truly posted all the flyers and did everything she could to find the original owner, then why is it fair for her to give up the dog when she's now had it almost as the original owners? She loves the dog, she's taking care of the dog, the dog is happy, and the original owner already thought the dog was dead (which it could have been if the girl didn't find and take care of it).

/It would be different if the original owner had the dog for years and she had the dog for mere months, or if she didn't try to find the original owner when she got the dog. Here, however, she's only at fault for being a good person in the first place and loving her dog currently.

//I have a shelter dog that I got just under a year ago. If someone came and tried to claim her today, I'm pretty sure I'd tell them to go fark themselves (especially considering how malnourished the dog was when i got her). It is now my dog.

///microchip your dogs. In many places shelters destroy dogs very soon after they are picked up.
 
2012-07-12 09:08:56 AM  
He has a authorized ruling saying the dog is his.
Go to the marshal's office with said ruling, take a marshal to biatch's house, get marshal to seize your property (dog), go home and be happy.
It's that simple, biatch can sue all she wants you've got your dog.
 
2012-07-12 09:09:49 AM  

AnubisMan: LL316: Fark her. Fark her long, and fark her hard.

[media.oregonlive.com image 640x963]

Uh... You first.


For a dog that she's had for that long....that 'Service Dog' vest looks remakably new. Not one picture of the dog in the vest on her FB site.
 
2012-07-12 09:10:57 AM  

SaladMonkey: I seem to be in the minority here, but I think she should be able to keep the dog. If she truly posted all the flyers and did everything she could to find the original owner, then why is it fair for her to give up the dog when she's now had it almost as the original owners? She loves the dog, she's taking care of the dog, the dog is happy, and the original owner already thought the dog was dead (which it could have been if the girl didn't find and take care of it).


I would be with you if she provided any evidence she attempted to find the owner. She didn't.
 
2012-07-12 09:11:28 AM  
www.asimplertime.com
 
2012-07-12 09:12:47 AM  

AnubisMan: LL316: Fark her. Fark her long, and fark her hard.

[media.oregonlive.com image 640x963]

Uh... You first.


2 beers put her face in the pillows and her butt in the air
/you've done worse
//you know you have
 
2012-07-12 09:13:46 AM  

Lor M. Ipsum: I would just like to point out that my 2-year-old dog is around me all day long and has grown fairly ambivalent to my existence. Whenever he gets to meet someone new, it is as though he is meeting his long-lost owner.


But unless your dog shiats back dated vet records and police reports with their names on at their feet, this isn't the same case at all.
 
2012-07-12 09:13:50 AM  

SaladMonkey: kobrakai: Carth: HotWingConspiracy: I can't imagine she has any hope of winning this case. As soon as the animal investigator takes the stand, she's toast.

The article makes it sound like she doesn't have to win the case only make it expensive enough so the rightful owner can't fight it. If he is a father of 2 he might be reluctant to spend $3000-5000 in legal fees to get his dog back.

Surely the internet can take care of that? Any ideas, people?

I seem to be in the minority here, but I think she should be able to keep the dog. If she truly posted all the flyers and did everything she could to find the original owner, then why is it fair for her to give up the dog when she's now had it almost as the original owners? She loves the dog, she's taking care of the dog, the dog is happy, and the original owner already thought the dog was dead (which it could have been if the girl didn't find and take care of it).

/It would be different if the original owner had the dog for years and she had the dog for mere months, or if she didn't try to find the original owner when she got the dog. Here, however, she's only at fault for being a good person in the first place and loving her dog currently.

//I have a shelter dog that I got just under a year ago. If someone came and tried to claim her today, I'm pretty sure I'd tell them to go fark themselves (especially considering how malnourished the dog was when i got her). It is now my dog.

///microchip your dogs. In many places shelters destroy dogs very soon after they are picked up.


There's a big difference between a dog you got a shelter, that you filled out forms for and went through a process to take ownership, and a dog you just found on the street and decided to keep. There was a procedure in place to take ownership of the dog that she didn't follow, and you only have her word that she posted any flyers and did anything to find the owner... whereas the true owner actually has copies of his flyer, his CL post, etc etc.
 
2012-07-12 09:15:27 AM  

HoneyDog: He already proved to the courts it was his dog. The girl needs to butch up and turn over the dog to it's rightful owner.

The guy needs to pony up and get the dog microchipped....it's well worth the money.


So much this. I've got four 100% indoor cats. The only time they go outside is in carriers to go to the vet. They're all microchipped, just in case.
 
2012-07-12 09:16:13 AM  

SaladMonkey: I seem to be in the minority here, but I think she should be able to keep the dog. If she truly posted all the flyers and did everything she could to find the original owner, then why is it fair for her to give up the dog when she's now had it almost as the original owners? She loves the dog, she's taking care of the dog, the dog is happy, and the original owner already thought the dog was dead (which it could have been if the girl didn't find and take care of it).


She did everything she could to find the dog... except what the law actually requires to claim a stray, if you RTFA.

That notwithstanding, the dude has corroboration of his efforts to plaster the neighbourhood with posters to find a dog. Curious, then, that her claims of doing the same didn't lead her to see those very same farking posters. Of course, she doesn't actually live in the area... So perhaps she plastered HER neighbourhood with posters? Who knows?
 
2012-07-12 09:20:01 AM  
http://www.gazettetimes.com/news/local/pair-spar-over-lost-dog/article _8605f6a8-a123-11e1-94cb-001a4bcf887a.html

Slightly better written article
"Since then, she estimates, she has spent thousands of dollars on Bear, taking him to the vet for shots, neutering and microchipping."
Bull.shiat.
 
2012-07-12 09:20:56 AM  

gmoney101: Why does everything end up in a law suit in America?


Because:

1. It's essentially consequence-free in the U.S., no matter how frivolous the suit.
2. People are pricks.
 
2012-07-12 09:21:26 AM  
Obviously the guy is the rightful owner. It is hard for me to root for white guys who wear hats like that, however.
 
2012-07-12 09:21:36 AM  
I had a collie for 4 years. She was outside when I was at work and a freak wind storm took out my 6 foot fence. She had a collar with tags with my address and phone number. All calls to local vets and shelters and fliers brought nothing. She was stolen. (who does not love a Lassie dog?).

I waited a couple years but now I have a 7 month old great dane, with a micro chip. Fool me once i can't.....

This chick needs to DIAF. (Miss you still JIXER)
 
2012-07-12 09:25:31 AM  
Also if there are any other Husky owners out there you can pick up a GPS collar for your dog for about $100 and track them from your phone/computer. They are lovable doofuses but they are also escape artists.
 
2012-07-12 09:27:04 AM  
White people problems?
 
2012-07-12 09:27:09 AM  

Swiss Colony: Jesus Christ what an infuriating article "keep reading to find out the ruling" and wade though a load of padding (I presume, I read one more paragraph, got bored and skipped to the end).


What you don't know may kill at this very instant. Details at 11.
 
2012-07-12 09:27:21 AM  

dbho: I waited a couple years but now I have a 7 month old great dane, with a micro chip. Fool me once i can't.....

This chick needs to DIAF. (Miss you still JIXER)


Make sure you get his stomach stitched to his ribs once he's full grown.... Bloat is BAD way to go... especially for dogs that only live 7 years or so...
 
2012-07-12 09:28:25 AM  
Stupid, selfish biatch. There are all kinds of dogs at the pound getting killed because there aren't enough homes for them, and she has to insist on keeping one that isn't hers.
 
2012-07-12 09:30:32 AM  

jmadisonbiii: [www.asimplertime.com image 400x323]


Nearly as old.

Guiseppe Cartoon "Lump"
 
2012-07-12 09:31:48 AM  

MagSeven: rs). Either way, give this wigger his mutt back!!


www.splittinghairs.org
 
2012-07-12 09:32:24 AM  

ChaosStar: http://www.gazettetimes.com/news/local/pair-spar-over-lost-dog/articl e _8605f6a8-a123-11e1-94cb-001a4bcf887a.html

Slightly better written article
"Since then, she estimates, she has spent thousands of dollars on Bear, taking him to the vet for shots, neutering and microchipping."
Bull.shiat.


YOU NEUTERED MY DOG YOU CRUEL biatch! HE WAS SAFE IN MY HOUSE! SAFE FROM YOU HEARTLESS TESTICAL-CHOPPING BASTARDS! NOW HE'S LOST HIS MANHOOD, HE'LL NEVER BE THE SAME! I SHOULD CUT YOUR TITS OFF!
 
2012-07-12 09:33:30 AM  

bluefoxicy: ChaosStar: http://www.gazettetimes.com/news/local/pair-spar-over-lost-dog/articl e _8605f6a8-a123-11e1-94cb-001a4bcf887a.html

Slightly better written article
"Since then, she estimates, she has spent thousands of dollars on Bear, taking him to the vet for shots, neutering and microchipping."
Bull.shiat.

YOU NEUTERED MY DOG YOU CRUEL biatch! HE WAS SAFE IN MY HOUSE! SAFE FROM YOU HEARTLESS TESTICAL-CHOPPING BASTARDS! NOW HE'S LOST HIS MANHOOD, HE'LL NEVER BE THE SAME! I SHOULD CUT YOUR TITS OFF!


Dare you to send that to her FB inbox.
 
2012-07-12 09:34:17 AM  

SaladMonkey: article makes it sound like she doesn't have to win the case only make it expensive enough so the rightful owner can't fight it. If he is a father of 2 he might be reluctant to spend $3000-5000 in legal fees to get his dog back.

Surely the internet can take care of that? Any ideas, people?

I seem to be in the minority here, but I think she should be able to keep the dog. If she truly posted all the flyers and did everything she could to find the original owner, then why is it fair for her to give up the dog when she's now had it almost as the original owners? She loves the dog, she's taking care of the dog, the dog is happy, and the original owner already thought the dog was dead (which it could have been if the girl didn't find and take care of it).

/It would be different if the original owner had the dog for years and she had the dog for mere months, or if she didn't try to find the original owner when she got the dog. Here, however, she's only at fault for being a good person in the first place and loving her dog currently.

//I have a shelter dog that I got just under a year ago. If someone came and tried to claim her today, I'm pretty sure I'd tell them to go fark themselves (especially considering how malnourished the dog was when i got her). It is now my dog.

Because it is not her dog.
/it's really not that hard
 
2012-07-12 09:36:18 AM  
Someone in the comments thread on the news page suggested siccing the tender mercies of 4chan on this woman.

oh god, not enough popcorn in the world if that comes to fruition
 
2012-07-12 09:40:42 AM  
coont
 
2012-07-12 09:43:30 AM  

bluefoxicy: ChaosStar: http://www.gazettetimes.com/news/local/pair-spar-over-lost-dog/articl e _8605f6a8-a123-11e1-94cb-001a4bcf887a.html

Slightly better written article
"Since then, she estimates, she has spent thousands of dollars on Bear, taking him to the vet for shots, neutering and microchipping."
Bull.shiat.

YOU NEUTERED MY DOG YOU CRUEL biatch! HE WAS SAFE IN MY HOUSE! SAFE FROM YOU HEARTLESS TESTICAL-CHOPPING BASTARDS! NOW HE'S LOST HIS MANHOOD, HE'LL NEVER BE THE SAME! I SHOULD CUT YOUR TITS OFF!


/N-CSB on
Was about 11 or 12 and we left the my dog with the vet. It was keeshond with pedigree and all that crap. Vet was supposed to worm and board the dog while we were on vacation. Came back my dog had been nutted, I though mom was going to kill him, only time I ever really saw her mad.
/N-CSB off
 
2012-07-12 09:46:11 AM  
I hate hyphenated names. they are the worst.
 
2012-07-12 09:54:13 AM  
2.bp.blogspot.com

"coonts are alive and well here in the USA. Back to you, Tom"
 
2012-07-12 09:58:19 AM  
I can't possibly imagine being in his position and letting this girl take the dog back for one last week to say goodbye. She had a year to pretend to own the dog and put it to work. Time to go back to the real owner where it can be dog. As an asthmatic I also don't understand the service dog thing.

My golden had to have intussusception surgery at 4 months and is now 10 months and healthy as could be. I'd have trouble not getting violent if someone tried something like this with him.
 
2012-07-12 10:04:23 AM  
Whoever took the photo of the dog on the raft needs to keep the dog. Cause dogs love that shiat.
 
2012-07-12 10:04:51 AM  

AnubisMan: LL316: Fark her. Fark her long, and fark her hard.

[media.oregonlive.com image 640x963]

Uh... You first.



3 shots of Wild Turkey and it's all good
 
2012-07-12 10:06:55 AM  
Aah, hate and harassment. Good ol' Fark.

Dog lovers are the worst kind of arseholes. Especially ones that buy their animals purebred and then treat it as though it were human.

Stop babytalking your dog, spaz.
 
2012-07-12 10:11:01 AM  

mortimer_ford: Whoever took the photo of the dog on the raft needs to keep the dog. Cause dogs love that shiat.


This. Nothing makes my little guy happier than goin out on the boat. A few weeks ago he shiat on my life jacket though. I'm not sure if that was some kind of message.

And by little guy I mean my dog. Boats don't make me horny.
 
2012-07-12 10:13:37 AM  

ExperianScaresCthulhu: HoneyDog: She's only 20, where does somebody that age get 'thousands' of dollars to train a dog?

Also, they do not train assistance dogs like they do for basic obedience. They start training assistance dogs from pups or at a very young age. The dog goes through a very rigorous 24/7 training with handlers/trainers that are specifically trained to be trainers of assistance dogs. They also usually don't spend more than a couple of months with any one handler so that there are no attachments made between the handler and dog. This training also takes a good year or two depending on what it is being trained for.

That's what it's supposed to be. Shiat ain't regulated, though. Not properly, anyway. Plenty of shady people (and well meaning people) claiming they'll service train. I really believe that stuff should be certified in the same way vets and even First Aid is certified. You just can't go onto craigslist and claim you'll teach first aid certification without any real background yourself.

And good point about her age. This biatch is full shiat. She needs to give the dog back.
==============================
seancakes: I'm wondering what happened to the original collar the guy says the dog was wearing after the dog initially ran away. My guess is that if the lady is the one who found the dog, she just tossed them rather than contact the owner.

Back in college some roommates found a lost dog. This one didn't even have a collar, but we spent the next week trying to find the owner. It was a chihuahua that slipped its' collar, and we managed to re-unite her with her owner.

/felt you guys could use a good story about lost dogs

I agree with you. And thank you to you and your friends for trying to do the right thing and not just say 'free dog!' when you found the lost dog. And thank you for not immediately taking it to the pound, where they would have killed it. I have mixed feelings about the pound. It's the first place to check for lost animals,b ut ...


...You know, I have to wonder why Google hasn't made something like that. Everyone uses google. Surely, creating a missing pet database should be trivial for them?
 
2012-07-12 10:14:02 AM  

BostonEMT: slapmasteremily:
I am fairly certain that the packaging on my rescue inhaler says albuterol. It is called pro-air.

I am assuming you mean cause the asthma attack because of underlying allergies?

it might, but its not delivered the same way. About 2 years ago (longer?), congress forced the 'old' inhalers off the market under the auspices of the propellants that were used. Initially, there were only 3 companies that made the 'new' albuterol. I don't find it as effective - but thats me. Also, the older delivery method also increased shelf life, now its only 2 months from when the packaging is opened.

It all depends on what triggers her attacks. While underlying allergies cause most asthma attacks, there are also the physical and mental states to consider. Depending on how the dog rides - my dogs act like they want to drive. Of course, she could also have her asthma induced by her weight (thats a big part of my asthma - so thats not a dig). I know for me personally, if i could drop 30-40lbs, my asthma would all but vanish if not completely.

/a fatty at 250lbs
//i'm not overweight, I'm under-tall.


I hope you don't have an asthma attack while running to save me from some unspeakable accident.

//not fat at all
 
2012-07-12 10:15:48 AM  

zomega: Someone in the comments thread on the news page suggested siccing the tender mercies of 4chan on this woman.

oh god, not enough popcorn in the world if that comes to fruition


Yeah, how about NO.

4chan's actions are like eating fast food. It's good once in a while as a treat, but if you have it every day, it's bland and uninteresting.
 
2012-07-12 10:20:10 AM  
Hanson-Fleming lost Chase on March 27, 2011, after the 45-pound canine jumped over the fence in his back yard in Southeast Portland.

Finally, five months later, Hanson-Fleming figured Chase -- the dog who spent nearly every waking hour with him


Yeah, lol. That dog wanted out.
 
2012-07-12 10:25:00 AM  
I have to appreciate the effort of the Animal services director there puts into providing a fair determination.
 
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