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(Slate)   Under President Obama, Americans paid the lowest tax rates in 30 years. Where is your Tea Party now?   (slatest.slate.com) divider line 350
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2012-07-11 04:04:27 PM
hey, look - more facts that completely refute what republicans claim!
 
2012-07-11 04:08:13 PM
In part, the tax decline was due to the dramatic decrease in average income that year.

This has nothing to do with Obama.
 
2012-07-11 04:14:35 PM

netizencain: In part, the tax decline was due to the dramatic decrease in average income that year.

This has nothing to do with Obama.


I was coming in to quote this from the FA.

Hey, you are paying less in taxes because you made less money this year, ain't Obama awesome?!

\That's called spin.
 
2012-07-11 04:16:30 PM

Krikkitbot: netizencain: In part, the tax decline was due to the dramatic decrease in average income that year.

This has nothing to do with Obama.

I was coming in to quote this from the FA.

Hey, you are paying less in taxes because you made less money this year, ain't Obama awesome?!

\That's called spin.


also FTA: But, the low rates also reflect measures the Obama administration took to mediate the impact of the recession, including the "Making Work Pay" tax credit and other cuts bundled in the stimulus package. The lowest fifth of earners saw the most dramatic decrease, paying an average tax rate of 1 percent compared to 5.1 percent in 2007.

either way it flies in the face of the teabaggers' "taxed enough already" bullshiat.
 
2012-07-11 04:17:08 PM

netizencain: In part, the tax decline was due to the dramatic decrease in average income that year.

This has nothing to do with Obama.


So Fartbongo doesn't control the economy and shouldn't be blamed for it going bad?
 
2012-07-11 04:20:36 PM

oldfarthenry: netizencain: In part, the tax decline was due to the dramatic decrease in average income that year.

This has nothing to do with Obama.

So Fartbongo doesn't control the economy and shouldn't be blamed for it going bad?


Whoa whoa whoa. Let's not get crazy here.
 
2012-07-11 04:59:05 PM

oldfarthenry: netizencain: In part, the tax decline was due to the dramatic decrease in average income that year.

This has nothing to do with Obama.

So Fartbongo doesn't control the economy and shouldn't be blamed for it going bad?


He only controls the bad parts.
 
2012-07-11 05:09:56 PM
Where is your Tea Party now?

Hiding in their corner with their fingers shoved in their ears screaming for Fox to come save them from the evil facts.
 
2012-07-11 05:19:38 PM

BSABSVR: oldfarthenry: netizencain: In part, the tax decline was due to the dramatic decrease in average income that year.

This has nothing to do with Obama.

So Fartbongo doesn't control the economy and shouldn't be blamed for it going bad?

He only controls the bad parts.


The political party that is not yours is responsible for the bad.


2006 High gas prices? You hate Bush? It's Bush's fault
2011 High gas prices? You love Obama? The President doesn't control that.

IT's the same... everywhere. everytime.
 
2012-07-11 05:32:34 PM

netizencain: 2006 High gas prices? You hate Bush? It's Bush's fault
2011 High gas prices? You love Obama? The President doesn't control that.


It worries me that you actually might have that simplistic view of the world.
 
2012-07-11 05:39:50 PM

netizencain: BSABSVR: oldfarthenry: netizencain: In part, the tax decline was due to the dramatic decrease in average income that year.

This has nothing to do with Obama.

So Fartbongo doesn't control the economy and shouldn't be blamed for it going bad?

He only controls the bad parts.

The political party that is not yours is responsible for the bad.


2006 High gas prices? You hate Bush? It's Bush's fault
2011 High gas prices? You love Obama? The President doesn't control that.

IT's the same... everywhere. everytime.


Funny how your attempt at a 'both sides are bad' still manages to pin the blame on Democrats.
 
2012-07-11 05:51:59 PM

netizencain: 2006 High gas prices? You hate Bush? It's Bush's fault
2011 High gas prices? You love Obama? The President doesn't control that.


About the closest your claim comes to reality is when people blame Bush for foreign policy actions that had immediate impact on prices. No one actually thinks Bush had direct input on the matter, anymore than we think Obama has the same outside of his own Band-Aid measures of limited impact. There's no red and green button under the desk in the Oval Office, and I'm sorry you think that liberals believe as much.

Maybe you should stop extrapolating one or two stupid posts into what all liberals believe. Man, you definitely don't want me to do that with Fark Independents, do you?
 
2012-07-11 06:02:26 PM
we need to redefine how we measure success.
 
2012-07-11 06:03:04 PM
As the article makes clear, this is primarily due to the recession and declining incomes, not any specific policy of Obama's - and particularly not in 2009. But it gives lie to the line we've been hearing for over three years, specifically, that your taxes have gone up under Obama, that he's passed the largest tax hikes in history, etc.
 
2012-07-11 06:08:40 PM
When half of the people pay no income taxes, this is a shock?

Why don't they pay income taxes? Because their income is too low? It certainly isn't because they are making millions in the stock market and able to itemize deductions down to zero.
 
2012-07-11 06:10:09 PM
Where is the tea party now?

Probably masturbating to the idea of sentencing a gay muslim socialist to death by stoning.
 
2012-07-11 06:10:52 PM
Where is the Tea Party now? Calling you a fool.

My mother didn't believe me until I showed her chart with the rates.

Her personal economy was she and step-dad hit the over $250,000 in combined income their first year of marriage due to early retirement, cashing out some vacation, and having to withdraw some cash from their 401K for medical expenses, so they personally had higher tax rates for a while. This was in 2005 though, which I reminded her was before Obama was elected.

Now, she accepted that taxes were really low, but kept saying he was gonna raise taxes soon.

She has said since 2008, that even as a life long Democrat, she "just doesn't trust" Obama. She voted Hillary in the Michigan primary, and I think she's registered might have changed to Independent now.

I finally figured out my mom's a bad in the closet racist though when she admonished my sister for taking my niece to a "nursery run by a black woman" and her little girl was picking up all sorts of "black mannerisms and sass" and then finished it up with "Now I'm not racist but it's just not ok".

Glad I live 2000+ miles away.
 
2012-07-11 06:11:35 PM

EnviroDude: Why don't they pay income taxes? Because their income is too low?


Maybe the job creators should pay them higher wages.
 
2012-07-11 06:11:43 PM

EnviroDude: When half of the people pay no income taxes, this is a shock?

Why don't they pay income taxes? Because their income is too low? It certainly isn't because they are making millions in the stock market and able to itemize deductions down to zero.




i49.tinypic.com
 
2012-07-11 06:13:32 PM

kronicfeld: As the article makes clear, this is primarily due to the recession and declining incomes


Except for this part:

But, the low rates also reflect measures the Obama administration took to mediate the impact of the recession, including the "Making Work Pay" tax credit and other cuts bundled in the stimulus package
 
2012-07-11 06:15:22 PM

cameroncrazy1984: Except for this part:


Last I checked, I said "primarily" and not "exclusively."
 
2012-07-11 06:19:06 PM
So much for being taxed enough already.
 
2012-07-11 06:25:12 PM

netizencain: 2006 High gas prices? You hate Bush? It's Bush's fault
2011 High gas prices? You love Obama? The President doesn't control that.

IT's the same... everywhere. everytime.


If someone blames the President of the United States for high gas prices they are too stupid to live.
 
2012-07-11 06:33:11 PM
Where is your Tea Party now?

mgoblog.com
I've got a basic idea... Or else their grandchildren are visiting for the week.
 
2012-07-11 07:06:36 PM

FlashHarry: either way it flies in the face of the teabaggers' "taxed enough already" bullshiat.


You seriously think the teabaggers' complaint is really about taxes?
 
2012-07-11 07:34:00 PM

eraser8: FlashHarry: either way it flies in the face of the teabaggers' "taxed enough already" bullshiat.

You seriously think the teabaggers' complaint is really about taxes?


well, that's what their bumper stickers say...
 
2012-07-11 07:49:04 PM

netizencain: In part, the tax decline was due to the dramatic decrease in average income that year.

This has nothing to do with Obama.


Just like taking out OBL had nothing to do with Obama.
 
2012-07-11 07:53:27 PM

netizencain: In part, the tax decline was due to the dramatic decrease in average income that year.

This has nothing to do with Obama.


www.clowder.net

//never mind the Bush policies that drove down average income, right?
 
2012-07-11 07:53:45 PM
Yeah, but we have the blackest President in 236 years!
 
2012-07-11 07:57:18 PM

GAT_00: netizencain: 2006 High gas prices? You hate Bush? It's Bush's fault
2011 High gas prices? You love Obama? The President doesn't control that.

It worries me that you actually might have that simplistic view of the world.


I didn't say that's how I view the world. Its how many people view things. My taxes are lower, it must be Obama. I don't have a job, it must be Obama. People like simple justifications AI pretty graphs with no context. It make it easier for them.
 
2012-07-11 08:01:21 PM

cretinbob: //never mind the Bush policies that drove down average income, right?


Actually, it was Business School policies that drove down average income. They basically, over 30 years, eliminated pensions, moved most of the payroll to the executive side, and fired as many people as technology would allow.

What they've created is very profitable companies with as few workers as possible paid as little as possible we as few benefits as possible.

Unfortunately, given that we are a consumer-driven economy, this does not seem to be an economically viable situation.
 
2012-07-11 08:23:56 PM
Average tax rate? When incomes go down, you drop into a lower bracket. Of course the tax rates on average will be lower.

Those unemployed people are even luckier, their tax rate is 0%!
 
2012-07-11 08:26:57 PM
The thing that always gives me the tickles, is you hear these Teatards ranting and raving about how we need to go back to the "good ol' days", which means when blacks and women were subservient to their white male overlords, but what they don't also realize is back in the "good ol' days", the marginal tax rate was in the 90th percentile. It's what, 36% percent now? If 36% is too much and worthy of a revolt, what the fark would these crackers do at 90% or more? Spontaneously combust?

Not to mention, those fat assholes on the Hoveround scooters wouldn't have Medicare to pay for it, since there was no Medicare until 1965. Or Medicaid either.
 
2012-07-11 08:52:22 PM

netizencain: I didn't say that's how I view the world. Its how many people view things. My taxes are lower, it must be Obama. I don't have a job, it must be Obama.


I often wonder if that's why monarchies lasted for so long in human history. It was a balls dead simple government to understand.
 
2012-07-11 09:10:42 PM
Are the teabaggers still even around? I mean WTF?
 
2012-07-11 09:25:41 PM

netizencain: In part, the tax decline was due to the dramatic decrease in average income that year.

This has nothing to do with Obama.


So which one are you? PhilHerup/EnviroDude is my bet, but I'm not sure.
 
2012-07-11 09:29:34 PM

EnviroDude: When half of the people pay no income taxes, this is a shock?



Thread-sh*tting Teabagger - drink!
 
2012-07-11 09:48:17 PM
We get it. He's balck.
 
2012-07-11 09:49:39 PM
It was the Bush rates.
 
2012-07-11 09:50:35 PM
The Feds cannot collect taxes from the unemployed. State and local taxes and fees have more than made up the difference.
 
2012-07-11 09:51:17 PM
and if it wasn't for the Tea Party, 0bama never would have extended the Bush Tax Cuts!

Good work Tea Party!

Good work 0bama - nice to see that you agree that the Bush Tax Cuts are good for the country (otherwise why would he have extended them?)
 
2012-07-11 09:51:51 PM

Krikkitbot: netizencain: In part, the tax decline was due to the dramatic decrease in average income that year.

This has nothing to do with Obama.

I was coming in to quote this from the FA.

Hey, you are paying less in taxes because you made less money this year, ain't Obama awesome?!

\That's called spin.


How did you make your slashie go the other way like that? / / / I can 't do it. //// // ? !%&^&*((^ How HOw!!????

\ please tell me
 
2012-07-11 09:52:26 PM

whidbey: We get it. He's balck.


Balck?
 
2012-07-11 09:52:49 PM

tenpoundsofcheese: and if it wasn't for the Tea Party, 0bama never would have extended the Bush Tax Cuts!

Good work Tea Party!

Good work 0bama - nice to see that you agree that the Bush Tax Cuts are good for the country (otherwise why would he have extended them?)


IIRC wasn't it a "We Republicans are going to block funding for unemployment and sick children unless you let us bundle the Bush Tax Cut extension with them" or something?
 
2012-07-11 09:53:07 PM

netizencain: In part, the tax decline was due to the dramatic decrease in average income that year.

This has nothing to do with Obama.


Yes, more people qualified for lower tax brackets, but Obama's policies are also geared towards lowering taxes for the middle class.
 
2012-07-11 09:53:12 PM

whidbey: We get it. He's balck.


Worse. He's muslim. And a foreigner.
 
2012-07-11 09:53:28 PM

netizencain: In part, the tax decline was due to the dramatic decrease in average income that year.

This has nothing to do with Obama.


I'm calling PETA, you have to give that chicken a break every once in awhile.
 
2012-07-11 09:53:58 PM
Blame Bush?
 
2012-07-11 09:54:13 PM

GAT_00: netizencain: 2006 High gas prices? You hate Bush? It's Bush's fault
2011 High gas prices? You love Obama? The President doesn't control that.

It worries me that you actually might have that simplistic view of the world.


Dude -- that's exactly what you're known for. In fact, you take it a step further by spouting myopic posts then disappearing once you're called out on it.
 
2012-07-11 09:54:48 PM

6655321: The Feds cannot collect taxes from the unemployed. State and local taxes and fees have more than made up the difference.


Yes, the Feds can. Unemployment benefits are taxable.
 
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