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2012-07-11 03:43:45 PM  
Aren't these usually cases where they mail you one bill for a toll of $0.50 plus another $3.00 transaction fee, then if you miss it for whatever reason they charge you 15% late fees every month plus a $10 processing fee for the late payment, all without ever sending you a second or third bill?
 
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2012-07-11 04:51:30 PM  
serial_crusher

That, and the first bill went to your ex whose name is still on the registration.
 
2012-07-11 05:18:26 PM  
I don't care how much it costs. The tollroad makes the hell that is Dallas traffic into a joyride.
 
2012-07-11 05:21:16 PM  
Tolls are a communist plot by Obama and I refuse to pay them on the grounds of FREEDOM.
 
2012-07-11 05:21:26 PM  
In most states it is the law that you have to keep both your drivers license and vehicle registration up to date on address changes. Plus the address wouldn't even be an issue if they didn't try to sneak through without paying in the first place.

serial_crusher: Aren't these usually cases where they mail you one bill for a toll of $0.50 plus another $3.00 transaction fee, then if you miss it for whatever reason they charge you 15% late fees every month plus a $10 processing fee for the late payment, all without ever sending you a second or third bill?


It depends. Here in Georgia it's a $25 fine plus the $0.50 toll. If you don't have money for the toll when you get to the toll plaza, you can go to one of the cashier lanes and they'll give you a $1.50 ticket for you to mail in ($1 processing fee plus the original $0.50 toll).

Georgia simply turns your information over to a collection agency if you rack up unpaid toll violations.

When I worked for the tollway authority, our biggest violators by far were limos for hire. Funniest tolls were transit buses since they were required to pay a toll just like everybody else (the trains don't pay since they travel on their own right-of-way).
 
2012-07-11 05:21:37 PM  
supposedly sped through the toll booths 8,366 times without payment,

23 a day? How do you pull that off? Does she have to pee at every exit? Or does the transponder record you every 2 miles?
 
2012-07-11 05:22:39 PM  
Amber Young's personal info splattered all over the net in 5...4...3...
 
2012-07-11 05:23:19 PM  

serial_crusher: Aren't these usually cases where they mail you one bill for a toll of $0.50 plus another $3.00 transaction fee, then if you miss it for whatever reason they charge you 15% late fees every month plus a $10 processing fee for the late payment, all without ever sending you a second or third bill?


Yes, although going through 8,366 booths without ever thinking she might have to pay is quite a feat.
 
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2012-07-11 05:24:13 PM  
12349876

Could be several years of violations. At $20 each.
 
2012-07-11 05:25:48 PM  
I think Texas is taking lessons from Illinois, but is still way way far behind.

However," Amber Young of Dallas, supposedly sped through the toll booths 8,366 times without payment" That is twice a day for 11 years? Sounds like some machine is out of calibration somewhere unless she drives a cab to and from the airport for a job.
 
2012-07-11 05:27:10 PM  
Yeah. They built all of these toll roads around here with tax payer money.
Later, the NTTA got rid of all of the actual toll booth operators for this new auto billing system. The signs say "Keep moving. We'll bill you."
So they bill people and the toll doesn't get paid. They then tack $25 onto a 75 cent toll.

Funny, when there were actual booth operators, you had a choice to use a toll tag or pay in cash. Now it's ONLY a billing system. Strangely enough, when there were people in the booth there were very few violations.

fark the NTTA.
 
2012-07-11 05:29:07 PM  
Wifey told me last night that not everything here is bigger. :(
 
2012-07-11 05:31:07 PM  
I'd buy that for a dollar.
 
2012-07-11 05:32:05 PM  

EngineerAU: In most states it is the law that you have to keep both your drivers license and vehicle registration up to date on address changes. Plus the address wouldn't even be an issue if they didn't try to sneak through without paying in the first place.


My keeping my address up to date and the private company that controls the toll road keeping their database up to date are two different things.

Also in Texas (Austin at least, I know parts of Houston are different and can't say for sure on Dallas) you're not actually "sneaking through" in the first place. They don't have manned booths to pay tolls. There are two ways to pay. One, you buy the TxTag--the transponder that sticks to your windshield, which deducts money from your prepaid account.
Two, you exercise the "pay by mail" method, where the camera takes a photo of your license plate and mails you a bill--not a ticket--for the cost of the toll plus a processing fee that's 6 times the cost of the toll.

You're better off just getting the tag, even if you only ever end up on the toll road once every two years when traffic is bad and you get stuck in the left lane of 183 and miss that tiny little "last free exit" sign that's a quarter of a mile before the exit buy you can't read it anyhow because you're in the left lane and there's a bunch of trucks between you and the sign, so by the time you realize you're at that exit there's no hope in hell of getting across all 4 lanes to get off before the thing takes your picture. Not that I'm bitter about it or anything. It is at least partially my fault for not knowing which exit is the free one.
 
2012-07-11 05:35:01 PM  
I live in Oklahoma City but drive through Dallas several times a year. The first time I got on the NorthDallas Toll Road I intended to pay the toll, but HOLY HELL!!!! it's confusing as hell and with the avg. speed being just under mach one it's not easy to get to the toll lanes. After not paying tolls a few times, and never getting a fine in the mail, I said screw it. I just blow through them. Pretty sure if I ever get pulled over in Texas, my car's going to be impounded.
 
2012-07-11 05:40:32 PM  

serial_crusher: for the cost of the toll plus a processing fee that's 6 times the cost of the toll


A bit of an exaggeration.
 
2012-07-11 05:42:31 PM  

crab66: Tolls are a communist plot by Obama and I refuse to pay them on the grounds of FREEDOM.


Obama made a toll road in Dallas called 'The Bush'? Tricksy bastage.
 
2012-07-11 05:45:59 PM  
I do not no about the processing fee being 6 times the cost of the toll but I can sure tell you that they WILL bill you over and over and over again for the same toll.....

Hey wait, did we not already pay that???

Here in Austin it is either FastPass or no toll roads for this guy.....
 
2012-07-11 05:46:23 PM  

anotar: I think Texas is taking lessons from Illinois, but is still way way far behind.

However," Amber Young of Dallas, supposedly sped through the toll booths 8,366 times without payment" That is twice a day for 11 years? Sounds like some machine is out of calibration somewhere unless she drives a cab to and from the airport for a job.



Depending on the length of the trip, its normal to go through multiple booths. Doing the math, lets assume she passes through 3 booths each way to and from work.

6 booths per day * 5 days a week * 50 weeks a year = 1500 booths per year

That's about 5 and a half years worth.
 
2012-07-11 05:47:04 PM  
A comment from a friend of a friend on Fb popped up in my feed the other day. This tea partier was running a business with a fleet of half a dozen vehicles doing service calls. For several years, he'd managed to register them all in some funky partly correct way such that he never saw a single toll bill from any of these vehicles. Well, I guess he couldn't get away with it any more, and got his first bill - for a whopping $9 - which angrily posts a picture of asking his friends if there was any reason he should pay it.

It was hilarious to watch this guy's friends pile on him about how this was the libertarian model of road funding, and he agreed to pay the toll when he drove on the road, and how long has he been freeriding on their tolls. There was no sympathy. It was excellent.

\I bet he thinks he's special because he's a job creator.
 
2012-07-11 05:49:01 PM  

Treygreen13: I don't care how much it costs. The tollroad makes the hell that is Dallas traffic into a joyride.


When they implemented the tollroads they reduced the capacity of I35-I635 by reducing the speed limit and that whole I635 center lane conversion.

Downtown, where I30 and I35 meet, they need a small nuke to give them reason to uncross all those roads.

Ever notice that the 121 tollroad at I35 doesn't have a northbound I35 exit. That Josey north of The Colony was built with two southbound lanes and one north because fark the people who want to get home. There's a bunch of little things around town to feed traffic into Dallas but simply say "fark you" if you want to get home in the evening.
 
2012-07-11 05:53:41 PM  

anotar: I think Texas is taking lessons from Illinois, but is still way way far behind.

However," Amber Young of Dallas, supposedly sped through the toll booths 8,366 times without payment" That is twice a day for 11 years? Sounds like some machine is out of calibration somewhere unless she drives a cab to and from the airport for a job.


Or driving through all the booths between, say, Plano and downtown and back, every weekday for four years. Doesn't sound so unreasonable now.
 
2012-07-11 05:53:59 PM  

serial_crusher:

Also in Texas (Austin at least, I know parts of Houston are different and can't say for sure on Dallas) you're not actually "sneaking through" in the first place. They don't have manned booths to pay tolls. There are two ways to pay. One, you buy the TxTag--the transponder that sticks to your windshield, which deducts money from your prepaid account.
Two, you exercise the "pay by mail" method, where the camera takes a photo of your license plate and mails you a bill--not a ticket--for the cost of the toll plus a processing fee that's 6 times the cost of the toll.

You're better off just getting the tag, even if you only ever end up on the toll road once every two years when traffic is bad and you get stuck in the left lane of 183 and miss that tiny little "last free exit" sign that's a quarter of a mile before the exit buy you can't read it anyhow because you're in the left lane and there's a bunch of trucks between you and the sign, so by the time you realize you're at that exit there's no hope in hell of getting across all 4 lanes to get off before the thing takes your picture. Not that I'm bitter about it or anything. It is at least partially my fault for not knowing which exit is the free one.


I've been to Dallas exactly once. I got my bill a few months later. For the whole weekend, it was about $16.
If I lived there, I'd get the pass.
 
2012-07-11 05:55:35 PM  

Treygreen13: serial_crusher: for the cost of the toll plus a processing fee that's 6 times the cost of the toll

A bit of an exaggeration.


True. For some reason I remember the processing fee being $3 when I had that issue, but that could just be mental hyperbole after all these years.
Currently, taking the Lakeline exit is a 50 cent toll to TxTag users and a 67 cent toll (plus $1 processing fee) for "pay by mail" users. So yeah, a 234% increase not 600%. My bad.
 
2012-07-11 06:02:03 PM  

Skirl Hutsenreiter: Or driving through all the booths between, say, Plano and downtown and back, every weekday for four years. Doesn't sound so unreasonable now.


I drive Plano - Watuaga every day. I hit 2 toll booths on the SRT (four total ticks, 2 coming and 2 going). It's not prohibitively expensive. Plus, since I found my new alternate route, I avoid the whole 114/121/183 construction zones.

I grew up in Utah and thought we had bad traffic out there - 635 is by far the worst "freeway" I've ever seen. Good ole 820 comes in a close second with it's 3 miles of parking from about Davis to 35.

I would rather talk to my exwife than drive on 635 OR 820. YARLY.
 
2012-07-11 06:02:32 PM  
The one in Houston is B.S. If you don't know how the lanes are organized beforehand, there is a good chance you can end up funneled toward a lane where you neeed a pass when you don't have one (they have barriers). By the time I figured out I was in the wrong lane, it was too late.
 
2012-07-11 06:06:21 PM  
No love lost over this.

Texas toll roads are Rick Perry's scam. The toll roads were a highly lucrative deal for the Spanish company Cintra. It seems to be a very one-sided contract. In Austin, the contract handed over sections of existing roadway, built with taxpayer dollars, to Cintra. So Texas doesn't own the road, Cintra does. This sort of executive bullshiat is nearly impossible to fix. You can vote to change it or arrest Rick Perry or whatever but it's a contract with an outside party and that contract binds Texas almost absolutely.

The Dallas and Austin tollways were just Stage 1 of his master plan for the Trans-Texas Corridor. It seemed like a forward-looking infrastructure plan but paying for it by basically SELLING OFF THE STATE TO SPAIN is basically politically apocalyptic. The future legislators and governors of Texas basically wouldn't be able to take a piss in this state without Cintra's permission. Politics here would largely be owned by an outside entity. And like I say, you can't do much to ever undo this clusterfark. Doesn't matter how unfair the deal is, doesn't matter if the management of Cintra is exposed as some sort of Nazi child-rape gang. The contract with the company remains valid and binding. Even if the company somehow went under, the contract would likely get picked up by whoever buys the company, thus in very real sense buying the state of Texas.
 
2012-07-11 06:06:22 PM  

Pumpernickel bread: The one in Houston is B.S. If you don't know how the lanes are organized beforehand,


If you aren't familiar with Dallas that can easily happen. My brother racked up a hefty fee driving back and forth on one particular tollway when he first moved up there 15-16 years ago. He was used to tollroads having actual tollbooths and didn't know anything about their tag system. He just thought it was a highway.

He may be one of the people referenced in the article. I don't think he ever paid those fees.
 
2012-07-11 06:11:12 PM  

Pumpernickel bread: The one in Houston is B.S. If you don't know how the lanes are organized beforehand, there is a good chance you can end up funneled toward a lane where you neeed a pass when you don't have one (they have barriers). By the time I figured out I was in the wrong lane, it was too late.


What? It's simple as hell. The inner (left-hand) lanes are EZ-Tag only and the right lanes are cash/change. The giant signs saying so also help.
 
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2012-07-11 06:11:16 PM  
I went through a couple electronic lanes without paying when I visited Florida in 1999. The second time my nose was barely into the chute when I realized what was wrong. The adjacent lane toll collector waved me through in case I was about to back up. I like to think after a few more encounters I would have figured out what lane to use.

I see Texas has poor signs for new people, like Florida did. The federal government is phasing in standards for toll plaza signing. Massachusetts has started switching to big, purple EZpass signs that are much more helpful than the old green advertising signs.
 
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2012-07-11 06:12:14 PM  
scottydoesntknow

The article shows a T in a red circle taking up a small fraction of the area of a large sign. Are there better signs?
 
2012-07-11 06:14:44 PM  

serial_crusher: EngineerAU: In most states it is the law that you have to keep both your drivers license and vehicle registration up to date on address changes. Plus the address wouldn't even be an issue if they didn't try to sneak through without paying in the first place.

My keeping my address up to date and the private company that controls the toll road keeping their database up to date are two different things.

Also in Texas (Austin at least, I know parts of Houston are different and can't say for sure on Dallas) you're not actually "sneaking through" in the first place. They don't have manned booths to pay tolls. There are two ways to pay. One, you buy the TxTag--the transponder that sticks to your windshield, which deducts money from your prepaid account.
Two, you exercise the "pay by mail" method, where the camera takes a photo of your license plate and mails you a bill--not a ticket--for the cost of the toll plus a processing fee that's 6 times the cost of the toll.

You're better off just getting the tag, even if you only ever end up on the toll road once every two years when traffic is bad and you get stuck in the left lane of 183 and miss that tiny little "last free exit" sign that's a quarter of a mile before the exit buy you can't read it anyhow because you're in the left lane and there's a bunch of trucks between you and the sign, so by the time you realize you're at that exit there's no hope in hell of getting across all 4 lanes to get off before the thing takes your picture. Not that I'm bitter about it or anything. It is at least partially my fault for not knowing which exit is the free one.


Your talking about the WellsBranch exit. No mater how many times I tell my girlfriend's posse to use the previous exit they always ignore me then biatch about the toll. I guess I should not be surprised
 
2012-07-11 06:19:15 PM  

ZAZ: scottydoesntknow

The article shows a T in a red circle taking up a small fraction of the area of a large sign. Are there better signs?


The article is talking about Dallas, which I will admit is confusing (lived there for 4 years). I'm talking about Houston, where the toll booths are pretty easy to figure out.

For some reason FARK won't let me post the picture here (says too big): Link
 
2012-07-11 06:19:40 PM  

scottydoesntknow: Pumpernickel bread: The one in Houston is B.S. If you don't know how the lanes are organized beforehand, there is a good chance you can end up funneled toward a lane where you neeed a pass when you don't have one (they have barriers). By the time I figured out I was in the wrong lane, it was too late.

What? It's simple as hell. The inner (left-hand) lanes are EZ-Tag only and the right lanes are cash/change. The giant signs saying so also help.


There are no cash lanes in DFW. There are empty booths that used to house a tax paying employed person.

For a real kick, read up on Cintra's lease on our toll roads. Cintra put a "lease" on them from us for 50 years. Then we get them back. Take a guess how long a highway or bridge in Texas is supposed to last.
 
2012-07-11 06:19:55 PM  

Skirl Hutsenreiter: \I bet he thinks he's special because he's a job creator.


Sounds like he operates more like a left wing elitist.
 
2012-07-11 06:20:47 PM  
Here's a little blurb.

http://www.facebook.com/note.php?note_id=159994574072304
 
2012-07-11 06:20:57 PM  

serial_crusher: Treygreen13: serial_crusher: for the cost of the toll plus a processing fee that's 6 times the cost of the toll

A bit of an exaggeration.

True. For some reason I remember the processing fee being $3 when I had that issue, but that could just be mental hyperbole after all these years.
Currently, taking the Lakeline exit is a 50 cent toll to TxTag users and a 67 cent toll (plus $1 processing fee) for "pay by mail" users. So yeah, a 234% increase not 600%. My bad.


Assuming you pay a $1 processing fee every time you pass a toll, instead of paying your bill once a month.

Not exactly framing the $1.15 statement fee per month in a logical way.
 
2012-07-11 06:22:06 PM  

socodog: scottydoesntknow: Pumpernickel bread: The one in Houston is B.S. If you don't know how the lanes are organized beforehand, there is a good chance you can end up funneled toward a lane where you neeed a pass when you don't have one (they have barriers). By the time I figured out I was in the wrong lane, it was too late.

What? It's simple as hell. The inner (left-hand) lanes are EZ-Tag only and the right lanes are cash/change. The giant signs saying so also help.

There are no cash lanes in DFW. There are empty booths that used to house a tax paying employed person.

For a real kick, read up on Cintra's lease on our toll roads. Cintra put a "lease" on them from us for 50 years. Then we get them back. Take a guess how long a highway or bridge in Texas is supposed to last.


Just more shenanigans from our buddies the Big Government Republicans.
 
2012-07-11 06:22:12 PM  
Typical Republican mortgage banker...
 
2012-07-11 06:22:41 PM  

scottydoesntknow: What? It's simple as hell. The inner (left-hand) lanes are EZ-Tag only and the right lanes are cash/change. The giant signs saying so also help.


I tried to cut through DFW airport one day to avoid construction - sure, the tolls are much higher there, but if I can avoid the traffic, it's worth it. I don't know how, but I ended up in the ONE lane that wasn't set up for TollTags. I don't carry cash, and the attendant said he couldn't take a credit card payment.

He just told me that he couldn't let me through until I came up with the $1.25 or whatever for the toll. It took me a minute to realize he was giving me shiat, and he finally just waved me through.

When I looked back, he was still laughing his ass off.
 
2012-07-11 06:22:54 PM  
Toll roads are evil. Does anyone remember the tale of the trolls and the bridge?
The state (local and federal ) should pay for everything. Toll roads are a sign of failure. This is a part of our society which needs to be banned everywhere. I don't care where you find the cash to pay for it.
 
2012-07-11 06:32:32 PM  

Treygreen13: serial_crusher: for the cost of the toll plus a processing fee that's 6 times the cost of the toll

A bit of an exaggeration.


That whole post & THAT'S what you yank out as an exaggeration?


NightOwl2255: I live in Oklahoma City but drive through Dallas several times a year. The first time I got on the NorthDallas Toll Road I intended to pay the toll, but HOLY HELL!!!! it's confusing as hell and with the avg. speed being just under mach one it's not easy to get to the toll lanes. After not paying tolls a few times, and never getting a fine in the mail, I said screw it. I just blow through them. Pretty sure if I ever get pulled over in Texas, my car's going to be impounded.


Rumor has it they don't bill out of state tags. That's JUST A RUMOR and I don't have any real confirmation or proof. Also, "speed being just under mach one" made me laugh. WE GOT PLACES TO BE, SON


aspAddict: I grew up in Utah and thought we had bad traffic out there - 635 is by far the worst "freeway" I've ever seen. Good ole 820 comes in a close second with it's 3 miles of parking from about Davis to 35.


820 is awful. The construction on it sucks a mighty peen right now, but it will be glorious when it's finished.

I refer to 635 as Thunderdome. No rules, but always watch out for the little old Asian man driving a 20 year old champagne Toyota in the middle lane about 10 mph under the speed limit.
 
2012-07-11 06:35:19 PM  

rev. dave: Toll roads are evil. Does anyone remember the tale of the trolls and the bridge?
The state (local and federal ) should pay for everything. Toll roads are a sign of failure. This is a part of our society which needs to be banned everywhere. I don't care where you find the cash to pay for it.


Actually, it's not so black and white.

For example, in Texas, there is a desperate need for more highway running north south, with goods shipped from Mexico up to Chicago and the rest of the country. Texas benefits very little from this traffic, and building sufficient highways is a multi billion dollar prospect.

One way to solve this problem is to just 'pay for everything' out of Texan pockets. Another is to do things the California way and just go into debt, not really ever paying for it, sinking further into debt forever. Another way is to have those actually using the roads to pay for them based on their usage. With tolls. That way, freight passing through Texas will pay for the roads they need. Texans who don't ever use the roads will never pay for them. Texans who use them sometimes will sometimes pay for them.

If you get the appropriate tag, the cost of using the tolls is remarkably low compared to the cost of fuel and other vehicle expenses. In many cases, you save money by taking the toll.

Remember, when you say the government should pay for everything, you're actually talking about the taxpayer. Either way, people are paying the bill. In Texas, where they try so hard to balance the budget, that's an immediate issue.

I used to say all tolls are a bad idea, mainly because of the need for people to work each station. The modern system where cars don't even need to slow down doesn't seem like much of a problem, though.
 
2012-07-11 06:37:14 PM  

socodog: Yeah. They built all of these toll roads around here with tax payer money.
Later, the NTTA got rid of all of the actual toll booth operators for this new auto billing system. The signs say "Keep moving. We'll bill you."
So they bill people and the toll doesn't get paid. They then tack $25 onto a 75 cent toll.

Funny, when there were actual booth operators, you had a choice to use a toll tag or pay in cash. Now it's ONLY a billing system. Strangely enough, when there were people in the booth there were very few violations.

fark the NTTA.


You don't have to drive on them. This may sound strange, but most people like being able to just drive on through. The prices are like 30% higher without the transponder, but the billing is simple and straightforward. I paid online in less than two minutes.
 
2012-07-11 06:40:16 PM  
I admit there are many aspects of the arrangement regarding these roads that I don't agree with, but I don't think the overall idea of using tolls is such a bad idea. I have no problem with using eminent domain to increase highways. I think that's legitimate and necessary.

I don't have a xenophobic hatred of Spanish businesses or private contractors, either. The tolls are much nicer than any roads I've seen in the NE, and the charges aren't bad.
 
2012-07-11 06:41:41 PM  

ZAZ: scottydoesntknow

The article shows a T in a red circle taking up a small fraction of the area of a large sign. Are there better signs?


It doesn't matter, there are not cash lanes on toll roads in Dallas.
 
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2012-07-11 06:43:59 PM  
socodog

50 years is a short term. Chicago gave a company a 75 year lease on parking spaces. The company paid 10% of fair market value. Aldermen weren't allowed to study the contract before being ordered to approve it. My guess is their families would never see another patronage job again unless they voted yes right away.

The Indiana Toll road was leased for 75 years and the Chicago Skyway for 99.

All these leases come with noncompete clauses. For example, Texas isn't raising speed limits around Austin because it wants to be driver-friendly. The state is raising speed limits on toll roads, and keeping I-35 slow, because lease payments depend on how high the toll road limit is compared to the free road.
 
2012-07-11 06:49:55 PM  

Di Atribe: That whole post & THAT'S what you yank out as an exaggeration?


Well there was plenty wrong with it, but pointing out the fact that people are not docked $.75 for using the toll road and then $4.50 service charge per use was the easiest thing to quote.
 
2012-07-11 06:51:07 PM  

Treygreen13: Di Atribe: That whole post & THAT'S what you yank out as an exaggeration?

Well there was plenty wrong with it, but pointing out the fact that people are not docked $.75 for using the toll road and then $4.50 service charge per use was the easiest thing to quote.


True enough. I was even going to correct everything that was wrong, but I don't have that kind of time.
 
2012-07-11 07:07:52 PM  

Benjimin_Dover: Skirl Hutsenreiter: \I bet he thinks he's special because he's a job creator.

Sounds like he operates more like a left wing elitist.


His entire position seemed to be "I pay gas tax and now I'm supposed to pay tolls, too!!!!" Because driving a tollroad that wasn't paid for by gas taxes is totally mandatory. He shut up after one of his friends said he was going to call him to his house for a service call and then later decide he didn't have to pay because he paid taxes.
 
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