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(Washington Times)   They are at it again. Those tricksy Republicans making the Democrats vote for grid lock on President Obama's agenda to save us all as only He can   (washingtontimes.com) divider line 65
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2012-07-11 12:26:35 PM  
I can see the problem. It's not like we would want the American people to actually know which side of this issue our legislatures are on. They might actually start thinking for themselves.
 
2012-07-11 12:27:35 PM  
The reason it was sidelined by Reid is because it would have either passed or made the Republicans look so bad that there would be a blue landslide this winter.
 
2012-07-11 12:28:55 PM  
I should have noted, that neither side wants to show their hand too early....they are still bluffing the voting public.
 
2012-07-11 12:29:02 PM  
isn't the washington times just a rightwing version of the onion?
 
2012-07-11 12:29:33 PM  
They should vote on it. If they object all they have to do is put lots of crud in there the other side finds anathema like abortions for everyone or allowing black men to have multiple wives.
 
2012-07-11 12:31:04 PM  
I'm guessing the headline is a reflection of the level of stupid contained in the link.

/I can't understand you
/I cannot understand you
/I don't understand a single word
/fingertips
 
2012-07-11 12:31:23 PM  
"The WA Times" or "TWAT" for short, said what?

Meanwhile, some Republicans say they're ready to embrace ending tax breaks in order to use the money to head off looming defense cuts, according to the Hill newspaper.

I LOL'd.

News that Pelosi et al are thinking of extending the tax cuts upwards to those making 1 million or more is a little troubling.

A tax cut up to a quarter million for the 1%ers isn't good enough all of a sudden?

Yeesh.

Not sure WTF Reid thinks he's doing here.
 
2012-07-11 12:31:30 PM  
Being in the majority has advantages, apparently.
 
2012-07-11 12:31:36 PM  
Is Drew drunk?
 
2012-07-11 12:32:05 PM  

ohioman: isn't the washington times just a rightwing version of the onion?


No, it's the house organ of the Rev Sun Yung Moon, the Emperor of the Seas and Second Coming of Jesus Christ.
 
2012-07-11 12:33:11 PM  

quatchi: Not sure WTF Reid thinks he's doing here.


I think he wanted to prevent a vote on the GOP plan (full extension), since it's likely that plan would have more support than Obama's plan.
 
2012-07-11 12:35:44 PM  

deadcrickets: They should vote on it. If they object all they have to do is put lots of crud in there the other side finds anathema like abortions for everyone or allowing black men to have multiple wives.


I was thinking something more along the lines of granting Obama Prima Nocta and Droit du seigneur, but only for those who contribute to right wing Super PACs.
 
2012-07-11 12:36:09 PM  

Dwight_Yeast: It's almost like there's an election coming up or something they're unemployed turds.

 
2012-07-11 12:36:38 PM  
Yep. Freeper Friday is now on Wednesday.
 
2012-07-11 12:38:20 PM  

quatchi: "The WA Times" or "TWAT" for short, said what?

Meanwhile, some Republicans say they're ready to embrace ending tax breaks in order to use the money to head off looming defense cuts, according to the Hill newspaper.

I LOL'd.

News that Pelosi et al are thinking of extending the tax cuts upwards to those making 1 million or more is a little troubling.

A tax cut up to a quarter million for the 1%ers isn't good enough all of a sudden?

Yeesh.

Not sure WTF Reid thinks he's doing here.


I think McConnell would have gotten some Democrat defectors, which would be more fodder for the propaganda campaign. Reid told him to go pound sand because he controls the schedule.

Right now taxes are a campaign issue. That's where Dems want to keep it.

Anybody feel free to correct me here.
 
2012-07-11 12:38:51 PM  
They are at it again. Those tricksy Republicans making the Democrats vote for grid lock on President Obama's agenda to save us all as only He can

This is a lot like saying that the Birther movement is Obama's fault.

/waaait a minute....
 
2012-07-11 12:39:11 PM  

NallTWD: Yep. Freeper Friday is now on Wednesday.


Wingnut Wednesday.
 
2012-07-11 12:40:36 PM  

deadcrickets: They should vote on it. If they object all they have to do is put lots of crud in there the other side finds anathema like abortions for everyone or allowing black men to have multiple white wives.


i38.photobucket.com
 
2012-07-11 12:41:08 PM  

qorkfiend: quatchi: Not sure WTF Reid thinks he's doing here.

I think he wanted to prevent a vote on the GOP plan (full extension), since it's likely that plan would have more support than Obama's plan.


I say let the Blue Dog biatches go on record as favoring wealth inequality.

Let them all go on the record and we'll see who's a total whore and who still has a conscience.

/I'm hoping Reid's just stalling because he still thinks he can use the threat of the across the board cuts (especially those to the defense budget) dictated by the failure of the so-called Super Committee to get the GOP to back down and allow the insane BushCo tax cuts (which have largely gone to the top two percent) to finally and mercifully die.
//I'mma optimist, me.
 
2012-07-11 12:43:27 PM  
Tricksy? This guy is clearly a troll, not a hobbitses

www.addictinginfo.org
 
2012-07-11 12:44:14 PM  

BillCo: I can see the problem. It's not like we would want the American people to actually know which side of this issue our legislatures are on. They might actually start thinking for themselves.


you don't have a job, do you.
 
2012-07-11 12:44:28 PM  

Otherwise Just Fine: I think McConnell would have gotten some Democrat defectors, which would be more fodder for the propaganda campaign. Reid told him to go pound sand because he controls the schedule.

Right now taxes are a campaign issue. That's where Dems want to keep it.


Makes sense.

/Fark needs a [Sensible] button alongside [Funny] and [Smart].
//Sure it might cost a bit to install but it would prolly never wear out.
 
2012-07-11 12:46:17 PM  

make me some tea: When Isn't Drew drunk?


FTFY
 
2012-07-11 12:47:38 PM  
Well, for what it's worth, I would actually like to see them let all of the tax cuts expire rather than just the tax cuts for the highest earners, and then also have those "looming defense cuts" the republicans are apparently afraid of. Maybe I'm crazy, but it seems to me that the best way to tackle our massive deficit is to cut spending and increase revenues. It's too bad neither party is actually interested in reducing the deficit. Republicans want to spend it on buying votes through handouts to defense contractors and shiat like that and democrats want to spend it on buying votes through handouts via social programs.
 
2012-07-11 12:48:29 PM  

quatchi:

/Fark needs a [Sensible] button alongside [Funny] and [Smart].
//Sure it might cost a bit to install but it would prolly never wear out.


Or this one.

i865.photobucket.com
 
2012-07-11 12:49:12 PM  

qorkfiend: I think he wanted to prevent a vote on the GOP plan (full extension), since it's likely that plan would have more support than Obama's plan.


In the House it would. Not in the Senate or the court of public opinion, I would have thought.
 
2012-07-11 12:50:49 PM  
Meanwhile, some Republicans say they're ready to embrace ending tax breaks in order to use the money to head off looming defense cuts, according to the Hill newspaper.

Hmmm.... here's a crazy idea: How about we do both? Taxes are at an historically low rate for the top income bracket, and we spend an absolutely insane amount of money on defense compared to the rest of the world. End the tax cuts and cut defense spending. If we can't protect our borders by only spending as much as China, Russia, The UK, France and Japan combined, then maybe there is a small chance we could find some efficiencies somewhere.
 
2012-07-11 12:51:24 PM  

LectertheChef: deadcrickets: They should vote on it. If they object all they have to do is put lots of crud in there the other side finds anathema like abortions for everyone or allowing black men to have multiple wives.

I was thinking something more along the lines of granting Obama Prima Nocta and Droit du seigneur, but only for those who contribute to right wing Super PACs black guys and white women.

 
2012-07-11 12:51:41 PM  

deadcrickets: They should vote on it. If they object all they have to do is put lots of crud in there the other side finds anathema like abortions for everyone or allowing black men to have multiple wives.


Dems hold the majority in the Senate, all it would take is to introduce an amendment that repeals the Hyde amendment to PPACA then sitting back and watching the Republicans filibuster their own bill to oblivion.
 
2012-07-11 12:55:55 PM  
Hah. Libs have no spine!
 
2012-07-11 12:56:20 PM  

that bosnian sniper: deadcrickets: They should vote on it. If they object all they have to do is put lots of crud in there the other side finds anathema like abortions for everyone or allowing black men to have multiple wives.

Dems hold the majority in the Senate, all it would take is to introduce an amendment that repeals the Hyde amendment to PPACA then sitting back and watching the Republicans filibuster their own bill to oblivion.


They could avoid all the parliamentary bullshiat, though, and just have Obama go on TV to support it. You don't need 60 Senators to hold a press conference and trollface.

// repealing the Hyde Amendment like that would be awesome
 
2012-07-11 12:56:29 PM  

quatchi: qorkfiend: quatchi: Not sure WTF Reid thinks he's doing here.

I think he wanted to prevent a vote on the GOP plan (full extension), since it's likely that plan would have more support than Obama's plan.

I say let the Blue Dog biatches go on record as favoring wealth inequality.

Let them all go on the record and we'll see who's a total whore and who still has a conscience.

/I'm hoping Reid's just stalling because he still thinks he can use the threat of the across the board cuts (especially those to the defense budget) dictated by the failure of the so-called Super Committee to get the GOP to back down and allow the insane BushCo tax cuts (which have largely gone to the top two percent) to finally and mercifully die.
//I'mma optimist, me.


Well, yeah, but then during the campaign the GOP can say "More Senators including X Democrats supported our plan. Our plan has bipartisan support."
 
2012-07-11 12:58:57 PM  
From what I've heard, there's insufficient votes to succeed with the President's plan (which is different than the GOP plan ). Reid thought the GOP's plan would pass but that there was insufficient support for the President's plan. So, Reid is holding both plans until he can sort his chickens.

http://blogs.ajc.com/jamie-dupree-washington-insider/2012/07/11/democ r ats-block-senate-vote-on-bush-tax-cuts/

I'm replying from my phone so please forgive the unformatted link.
 
2012-07-11 01:00:14 PM  

runin800m: Well, for what it's worth, I would actually like to see them let all of the tax cuts expire rather than just the tax cuts for the highest earners, and then also have those "looming defense cuts" the republicans are apparently afraid of. Maybe I'm crazy, but it seems to me that the best way to tackle our massive deficit is to cut spending and increase revenues. It's too bad neither party is actually interested in reducing the deficit. Republicans want to spend it on buying votes through handouts to defense contractors and shiat like that and democrats want to spend it on buying votes through handouts via social programs educating, healing, building roads, investing in science, modernizing electrical grids, alternative energy, job growth, space exploration, you know "social programs".

 
2012-07-11 01:00:38 PM  

BillCo: They might actually start thinking for themselves


Coming from you, this is especially rich.
 
2012-07-11 01:02:09 PM  
He's another interpretation : http://influencealley.nationaljournal.com/2012/07/democrats-say-they-w rote-legis.php
 
2012-07-11 01:04:42 PM  

runin800m: Well, for what it's worth, I would actually like to see them let all of the tax cuts expire rather than just the tax cuts for the highest earners, and then also have those "looming defense cuts" the republicans are apparently afraid of. Maybe I'm crazy, but it seems to me that the best way to tackle our massive deficit is to cut spending and increase revenues. It's too bad neither party is actually interested in reducing the deficit. Republicans want to spend it on buying votes through handouts to defense contractors and shiat like that and democrats want to spend it on buying votes through handouts via social programs.


I'm okay with the eventual closing of the loopholes and breaks. I'd like to see a staggered plan in which the middle class is able to receive theirs until their economic opportunities become a little more stable.
 
2012-07-11 01:13:39 PM  

Dr Dreidel: They could avoid all the parliamentary bullshiat, though, and just have Obama go on TV to support it. You don't need 60 Senators to hold a press conference and trollface.

// repealing the Hyde Amendment like that would be awesome


Yeah, but the right-wing derpsplosion from amending the GOP's bill to repeal the Hyde amendment would be way bigger and more awesome than if Obama merely supported it. The Republicans hate, hate, hate it when you feed them a spoonful of their own medicine -- remember the weapons-grade hilarity from last year when House Democrats voted 'present' on the RSC budget and forced Republicans to torpedo their own plan?

Imagine if the Dems snuck an "antichrist" amendment into their "Jesus" bill, and getting Senate Republicans "on-record" as McConnell put it as filibustering a tax cut.
 
2012-07-11 01:20:20 PM  
If Drew is smart, he is taking all of those TF dollars and making a massive contribution to Obama's campaign: a positive feedback loop of delicious TF 'pubhurt for four more years.
 
2012-07-11 01:20:42 PM  

92myrtle: Oh, look. Yet another derp-green today with BillCo leading off. Some modmin is trying to teach us a lesson because we've been bad and should feel shame.


yep, the lesson is "don't expect sanity from the modmins"
 
2012-07-11 01:23:46 PM  

BillCo: I can see the problem. It's not like we would want the American people to actually know which side of this issue our legislatures are on. They might actually start thinking for themselves.


I think the proper response to this is a Kos-style rant:

If we wanted to have our god damn f*cking representatives vote lockstep, why the f*ck do we need to pay all these sick Republican assf*cking syncophantic shiatbags when we can just instruct 1 dude to cast the same number of votes as the number of seats these pieces of human filth currently occupy in the House?

That way, those rimjobbing cornholing pricks can just play golf all day rather than waste our god damn money.
 
MFL
2012-07-11 01:27:06 PM  
quatchi I say let the Blue Dog biatches go on record as favoring wealth inequality

I'm sure the blue dogs are shaking in their boots since the self proclaimed "progressive majority" that has never won a major election with out them.

I looked up your code word.

Progressive code words:
Increase revenues = Raise taxes
Investments= More government spending
Fair share = Income redistribution
Racist = Everyone not progressive
Sexist = Everyone not Female and progressive
Tolerance = take your medicine
Bi-partisan = anything progressive
Mandate = tax
Budget = lol
Climate change = Global Warming
Climate change = Global Cooling
Climate change = Global weather stays same
George Bush = Safety word
Wealth inequality = sssssSOCIALISM
 
2012-07-11 01:30:29 PM  

MFL: quatchi I say let the Blue Dog biatches go on record as favoring wealth inequality

I'm sure the blue dogs are shaking in their boots since the self proclaimed "progressive majority" that has never won a major election with out them.

I looked up your code word.

Progressive code words:
Increase revenues = Raise taxes
Investments= More government spending
Fair share = Income redistribution
Racist = Everyone not progressive
Sexist = Everyone not Female and progressive
Tolerance = take your medicine
Bi-partisan = anything progressive
Mandate = tax
Budget = lol
Climate change = Global Warming
Climate change = Global Cooling
Climate change = Global weather stays same
George Bush = Safety word
Wealth inequality = sssssSOCIALISM


You should fight in MMA with that much rage.
 
2012-07-11 01:31:03 PM  
Reid appeared exasperated by the Republican request to vote on extending the Bush-era tax rates when Democrats would prefer to focus this week on a small-business tax package estimated to create 1 million jobs.

Senator Mitch the Turtle is trying anything he can to keep a million jobs from hitting the economy before the election even letting the rich pay a few percentage points more on income over $250K.

Keep tap dancing, McConnell. Your goal of President Obama serving only one term is toast. Even most of your own party is lukewarm about voting for the mormon corporate raider.
 
2012-07-11 01:32:21 PM  

MFL: derp


You really wasted your time typing all that out? You are an idiot.

I dont even have to visit FreeRepublic today, Fark has all their headlines.
 
2012-07-11 01:40:00 PM  
President Obama's proposal to extend middle-class tax cuts but raise taxes for the rich, but Majority Leader Harry Reid objected, essentially sidelining the president's plan.

Extending middle-class tax cuts but raising taxes on the rich? Please, you need to position those two claims far apart to try and convince anyone of this narrative of not extending tax cuts to some group is the same as raising taxes. The tax cuts were meant to be a temporary relief, temporary relief which has been extended several times now for all; time for them to end, beginning with those who have continued to do well despite the recession.
 
2012-07-11 01:40:26 PM  

Soup4Bonnie: Reid appeared exasperated by the Republican request to vote on extending the Bush-era tax rates when Democrats would prefer to focus this week on a small-business tax package estimated to create 1 million jobs.

Senator Mitch the Turtle is trying anything he can to keep a million jobs from hitting the economy before the election even letting the rich pay a few percentage points more on income over $250K.

Keep tap dancing, McConnell. Your goal of President Obama serving only one term is toast. Even most of your own party is lukewarm about voting for the mormon corporate raider.


Those 'million jobs'.......just like all those 'shovel ready' jobs?
 
2012-07-11 01:43:11 PM  

Bontesla: runin800m: Well, for what it's worth, I would actually like to see them let all of the tax cuts expire rather than just the tax cuts for the highest earners, and then also have those "looming defense cuts" the republicans are apparently afraid of. Maybe I'm crazy, but it seems to me that the best way to tackle our massive deficit is to cut spending and increase revenues. It's too bad neither party is actually interested in reducing the deficit. Republicans want to spend it on buying votes through handouts to defense contractors and shiat like that and democrats want to spend it on buying votes through handouts via social programs.

I'm okay with the eventual closing of the loopholes and breaks. I'd like to see a staggered plan in which the middle class is able to receive theirs until their economic opportunities become a little more stable.


I'm not. Not necessarily because I think it's a terrible idea but because I don't believe it would ever happen like that. Look at these tax cuts in the first place. They were all set to expire years ago, but they're all still here. If we "staggered" them then it would never happen, when the time came to eventually close them then the same argument would be made then that is being made now. No one ever wants their taxes to go up and there's never going to be a time when people say, "Hey, yeah. Now is the time to raise my taxes, I'm doing just great.".

That's just not how people work. If someone wants to do it now, Democrat or Republican, I'm all for it. I just don't want to hear some plan where it will happen 10 years down the road.

TrollingForColumbine: runin800m: Well, for what it's worth, I would actually like to see them let all of the tax cuts expire rather than just the tax cuts for the highest earners, and then also have those "looming defense cuts" the republicans are apparently afraid of. Maybe I'm crazy, but it seems to me that the best way to tackle our massive deficit is to cut spending and increase revenues. It's too bad neither party is actually interested in reducing the deficit. Republicans want to spend it on buying votes through handouts to defense contractors and shiat like that and democrats want to spend it on buying votes through handouts via social programs educating, healing, building roads, investing in science, modernizing electrical grids, alternative energy, job growth, space exploration, you know "social programs".


I see their clever plan has worked like a charm on you! Your republican counterpart would list reasons that the money spent on defense is doing so much good stuff just like you have there and that the social spending is all going to people who have been on unemployment for years or welfare or are scamming SSDI. You're two sides of the exact same coin. The social programs can stand to be cut just as much as defense and it won't mean people will be dying in the streets unfed and sick just like cuts to defense won't mean that Russia or whoever will walk across the boarder and we will be helpless to stop them and people will die in the streets. They're each equally ridiculous and disingenuous.
 
2012-07-11 01:49:57 PM  

MFL: quatchi I say let the Blue Dog biatches go on record as favoring wealth inequality

I'm sure the blue dogs are shaking in their boots since the self proclaimed "progressive majority" that has never won a major election with out them.

I looked up your code word.

Progressive code words:
Increase revenues = Raise taxes
Investments= More government spending
Fair share = Income redistribution
Racist = Everyone not progressive
Sexist = Everyone not Female and progressive
Tolerance = take your medicine
Bi-partisan = anything progressive
Mandate = tax
Budget = lol
Climate change = Global Warming
Climate change = Global Cooling
Climate change = Global weather stays same
George Bush = Safety word
Wealth inequality = sssssSOCIALISM


What does "progressive" mean to you exactly?
 
2012-07-11 01:56:12 PM  

quatchi: MFL: quatchi I say let the Blue Dog biatches go on record as favoring wealth inequality

I'm sure the blue dogs are shaking in their boots since the self proclaimed "progressive majority" that has never won a major election with out them.

I looked up your code word.

Progressive code words:
Increase revenues = Raise taxes
Investments= More government spending
Fair share = Income redistribution
Racist = Everyone not progressive
Sexist = Everyone not Female and progressive
Tolerance = take your medicine
Bi-partisan = anything progressive
Mandate = tax
Budget = lol
Climate change = Global Warming
Climate change = Global Cooling
Climate change = Global weather stays same
George Bush = Safety word
Wealth inequality = sssssSOCIALISM

What does "progressive" mean to you exactly?


"Anything the RNC playbook tells him to be afraid of."
 
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