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(Deadspin)   With the Home Run Derby boos still ringing in Bud Selig's ear, look for some quiet changes to next year's contest   (deadspin.com) divider line 101
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2012-07-11 09:08:13 AM  
I propose whoever wins the home run derby gets credit for that many home runs in the world series.
 
2012-07-11 09:53:28 AM  
Everyone gets a trophy!
 
2012-07-11 09:55:44 AM  
Must have food related nickname. True blue guy here
 
2012-07-11 10:01:18 AM  

beantowndog: I propose whoever wins the home run derby gets credit for that many home runs in the world series.


I was going to say "Winning league gets spotted 2 runs in any WS game they choose", but I like this idea more. Teams have X number of home runs they can cash in at any point during any WS game.1st and 3rd in the bottom of the 9th down 1? Yeah, think we'll be using one of our home runs, ump.

It'll make winning the home run derby so important!
 
2012-07-11 10:03:22 AM  
Also, I thought this link brought up a good point, although admittedly it is quite homer-y. Still...if Phillie or Sawks fans do this, no one says anything beyond "Oh, those passionate Phillie/Sawks fans!"
 
2012-07-11 10:05:56 AM  
Does anyone actually care about the homerun derby anymore. I know half the MLB players dont.

So why not change it to a home run derby with just the pitchers batting, at least that would be fun to watch.
 
2012-07-11 10:05:59 AM  
How about using a pitching machine. Then every pitch would be right where the batter wants it. No more waiting for the perfect pitch.
 
2012-07-11 10:06:59 AM  
but but the sanctity of the home run derby! who gives a shiat.
 
2012-07-11 10:11:44 AM  
Bud Selig will require enthusiastic crowd noise pumped in and played after every hit. Berman will be given a mic and spot on the field to scream back back back over the PA system.
 
2012-07-11 10:12:33 AM  
I don't get it. The fans wanted a home town guy to root for, and Selig is going to try to put a home town guy on the team next year so they have someone to root for. And this is sucking the emotion out of the event. I can't seem to peel the onion, here. I guess I need another cup of coffee.
 
2012-07-11 10:15:50 AM  

you have pee hands: I don't get it. The fans wanted a home town guy to root for, and Selig is going to try to put a home town guy on the team next year so they have someone to root for. And this is sucking the emotion out of the event. I can't seem to peel the onion, here. I guess I need another cup of coffee.


The lesson you should take away from this is that Bud Selig is a terrible human being who usurped control of baseball from the last legitimate commissioner and deserves scorn for every decision he makes, up to and including going with the Grand Slam over the Rooty Tooty Fresh and Frooty at Denny's.
 
2012-07-11 10:16:49 AM  

LarryDan43: Bud Selig will require enthusiastic crowd noise pumped in and played after every hit. Berman will be given a mic and spot on the field to scream back back back over the PA system.


I was thinking they should do what they did during the Oscars, when they had trouble with people applauding during the "In Memory Of" segment...Just have Jennifer Hudson warble some sappy song over the PA while the event is going on.
 
2012-07-11 10:18:29 AM  
I'd rather they just replaced the home run derby with Brockian Ultra Cricket, but that's just me.
 
2012-07-11 10:20:00 AM  

Lost Thought 00: Everyone gets a trophy!


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2012-07-11 10:20:08 AM  

jayhawk88: beantowndog: I propose whoever wins the home run derby gets credit for that many home runs in the world series.

I was going to say "Winning league gets spotted 2 runs in any WS game they choose", but I like this idea more. Teams have X number of home runs they can cash in at any point during any WS game.1st and 3rd in the bottom of the 9th down 1? Yeah, think we'll be using one of our home runs, ump.

It'll make winning the home run derby so important!


Except every team would now demand a spot in the Derby.

Therefore making it 3 times as long minimum.
 
2012-07-11 10:21:43 AM  

error 303: I'd rather they just replaced the home run derby with Brockian Ultra Cricket, but that's just me.


I'd rather they go with Ski Boxing.
 
2012-07-11 10:21:47 AM  

jayhawk88: up to and including going with the Grand Slam over the Rooty Tooty Fresh and Frooty at Denny's.


THAT MONSTER!! WHY WOULD ANYBODY DO THAT?!?!?!?!
 
2012-07-11 10:24:49 AM  

beantowndog: I propose whoever wins the home run derby gets credit for that many home runs in the world series.


I think they need to move the all star break to the end of the year and make the whole thing a giant goof. Just admit it's pointless and fun.

Instead of selecting like 4 sluggers from the NL and AL....they determine a cut (like in golf) where the top 20-30 guy in the league "make the cut"...and they all get a chance to compete. There are exactly two rounds and they get three outs per round....(no more of these 10 out chances).

Next, a HR derby only for pitchers....and/or they have to hit off a tee.....from second base....and they get to use those high tech composite bats.

Have a "base stealing" competition...but with slip and slides....the players get 90 feet to run as fast as they can then whoever slides the farthest wins...

Have a punt, pass, and kick competition (yes, I know it's baseball)....

Set up an American gladiator style obstacle course...


/the possibilities are endless once you stop pretending the pointless game is supposed to be serious.
 
2012-07-11 10:25:49 AM  

Why Would I Read the Article: jayhawk88: up to and including going with the Grand Slam over the Rooty Tooty Fresh and Frooty at Denny's.

THAT MONSTER!! WHY WOULD ANYBODY DO THAT?!?!?!?!


I know! Eating at Denny's is inexcusable.
 
2012-07-11 10:27:43 AM  

Theropod76: How about using a pitching machine. Then every pitch would be right where the batter wants it. No more waiting for the perfect pitch.


Physics doesn't work that way


Also shouldn't the HR Derby be the best hitters? They move the All-Star game around so everyone gets a chance to see the best players (less of an issue now that we have inter-league play), not so that you can root for the home town guy to stand up there and hit 10 ground outs.
 
2012-07-11 10:32:46 AM  
Well, since you know David Wright won't participate next year because of what happened to his swing the last time he was in the HR Derby, I can't wait to see who makes it in for the Mets.

Ike Davis? Lucas Duda? Maybe if Johan makes it, he can enter?

Although I doubt Mets fans would really care one way or the other, they have things to live for besides the HR Derby. Not many, mind you, but at least a few.
 
2012-07-11 10:33:18 AM  

Theropod76: How about using a pitching machine. Then every pitch would be right where the batter wants it. No more waiting for the perfect pitch.


Outside of Cooperstown, I've never been to a batting cage that had a machine that could even throw decent strikes half the time, to say nothing of perfect strikes all of the time.
 
2012-07-11 10:36:37 AM  

Jim from Saint Paul: Except every team would now demand a spot in the Derby.

Therefore making it 3 times as long minimum.


No see, whichever player wins, his league gets his home runs in the World Series, regardless of which team actually makes it.

Anyway, just kind of thinking about how ridiculous this "Winning league gets home field" thing is. We're going to be 10 years deep into this next year. 10 YEARS! I really hope someone in the sports media takes the 10 year anniversary to really take up the cause against this stupid rule.
 
2012-07-11 10:39:06 AM  
Get rid of the pitchers. Use a machine, everyone gets the same pitches to hit.

ESPN used to run a series from the 60's that paired up two active stars for a weekly home run contest (i.e. Mantle versus Killebrew, etc.) that was amazing despite a lack of production value. Here's the Wiki link. Crazy list of HOFers.

Link
 
2012-07-11 10:39:14 AM  

jayhawk88: Also, I thought this link brought up a good point, although admittedly it is quite homer-y. Still...if Phillie or Sawks fans do this, no one says anything beyond "Oh, those passionate Phillie/Sawks fans!"


This. I'm no Royals fan, but I thought ESPN's announcers & reporters were pretty retarded. The use of Philadelphia as an example is especially apropos. Philly fans have a reputation for being assholes, so they probably would've been given a pass (more or less) if they did something like this.

I'm not so sure I like the host team requirement, though. What if Petco Park hosted the ASG this year? Don't HR Derby competitors have to be all-stars first? The Padres' only real HR threat, Carlos Quentin, has been out for nearly 2 months now.
 
2012-07-11 10:41:03 AM  

Gunderson: Does anyone actually care about the homerun derby anymore. I know half the MLB players dont.


KC fans apparently do.
 
2012-07-11 10:44:13 AM  

Yanks_RSJ: Well, since you know David Wright won't participate next year because of what happened to his swing the last time he was in the HR Derby, I can't wait to see who makes it in for the Mets.

Ike Davis? Lucas Duda? Maybe if Johan makes it, he can enter?


Surely the Mets will have given Shane Victorino or Grady Sizemore $30 million more than they're worth by then?
 
2012-07-11 10:44:48 AM  
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2012-07-11 10:45:23 AM  
I don't have a problem with including a hometown guy every derby but making it an official rule was the wrong way to go about it. just quietly make it an unwritten rule and if a captain doesn't select a home town guy take him aside privately before the selections are made public.
 
2012-07-11 10:45:47 AM  

madden101: I'm not so sure I like the host team requirement, though. What if Petco Park hosted the ASG this year? Don't HR Derby competitors have to be all-stars first? The Padres' only real HR threat, Carlos Quentin, has been out for nearly 2 months now.


Chase Headley leads the Padres with an impressive 8 dingers. No, I didn't forget the "1" in front of that.
 
2012-07-11 10:45:52 AM  

jayhawk88: Surely the Mets will have given Shane Victorino or Grady Sizemore $30 million more than they're worth by then?


I have a friend who would murder Shane Victorino before he ever let him put on the uniform of his beloved Mets.
 
2012-07-11 10:47:04 AM  
here is how you fix the hr derby. Pitching machine. bonus runs for hitting a spot on demand(a sign pops up that says right, left or center, clowns. live squirrels. hot ladies shagging balls.

get rid of the asg home field bullshiat. best record, done. every other league does it. it's not that hard.
 
2012-07-11 10:58:20 AM  

jayhawk88: Yanks_RSJ: Well, since you know David Wright won't participate next year because of what happened to his swing the last time he was in the HR Derby, I can't wait to see who makes it in for the Mets.

Ike Davis? Lucas Duda? Maybe if Johan makes it, he can enter?

Surely the Mets will have given Shane Victorino or Grady Sizemore $30 million more than they're worth by then?


Sandy Alderson has done an admirable job thus far of proving he's not Omar Minaya, I pray he stays the course.

That being said, outside of batting average Ike Davis is having a pretty solid year - if he didn't have all those problems in April and part of May he might be on pace for 30+ homers easily.

/and if my grandmother had wheels she'd be a wagon.
 
2012-07-11 10:59:10 AM  
Or just learn something from the Easter League HRD: Link

Dunk tanks, someone dangling from a crane--But wait! There's more!
 
2012-07-11 10:59:15 AM  
Bud Selig is the worse thing to happen to baseball.
 
2012-07-11 11:02:46 AM  
The losing league of the asg should have to travel to all its games by bus during the playoffs
 
2012-07-11 11:03:51 AM  

jayhawk88: Also, I thought this link brought up a good point, although admittedly it is quite homer-y. Still...if Phillie or Sawks fans do this, no one says anything beyond "Oh, those passionate Phillie/Sawks fans!"


Philly would have been ripped mercilessly had they done the same.


Here's a couple quick fixes they could do to make it watchable:

Get rid of Berman
Not let it last 3 f'ing hours
Random trick balls are thrown in there (like trick golf balls)
 
2012-07-11 11:06:44 AM  

Fark You Buddy: Gunderson: Does anyone actually care about the homerun derby anymore. I know half the MLB players dont.

KC fans apparently do.


Well, to be fair, there really isn't much else to live for in KC...
 
2012-07-11 11:09:16 AM  

Gunderson: Well, to be fair, there really isn't much else to live for in KC...


BBQ.
 
2012-07-11 11:10:05 AM  

jayhawk88: Still...if Phillie or Sawks fans do this, no one says anything beyond "Oh, those passionate Phillie/Sawks fans!"


Are you serious?

Philly would have articles across the country talking about Santa Claus and Dononvan McNabb and THERE WAS A JAIL IN THE STADIUM!!!


How to fix the HR derby? You get 10 pitches. Not 10 "outs"
 
2012-07-11 11:19:08 AM  

jayhawk88: Also, I thought this link brought up a good point, although admittedly it is quite homer-y. Still...if Phillie or Sawks fans do this, no one says anything beyond "Oh, those passionate Phillie/Sawks fans!"


Uh, that article was whine-tastic. Want people to take the Royals seriously? Get your act together and work towards fielding a decent team. Which the Royals are finally starting to do, maybe. Rather than inflate their payroll by bringing in a few midlevel overpaid veterans to look like they give a damn. A crap team doesn't need Kyle Farnsworth and Jose Guillen sucking up ~20million a year.

But no, it's all "we've sucked forever and it's no fair that everyone thinks we suck!" From that link: "One of the standard bearers of this system is dishonesty. Major League Baseball has enacted policies and practices that run contrary to the pronounced goal of an equal playing field and a spirit of honest competition." Like 9 teams have won an NBA championship in the past 30 years. The NFL achieves parity by schedule manipulation (playing 2-3 tougher teams a year in a 16 game season makes a HUGE difference). In either of those leagues, at least until the lockouts and new CBAs, a bad top draft pick meant you had a ton of money locked into a guy, and were pretty much crippled for a number of years. Baseball actually does an alright job with parity.

Furthermore, as to east coast fans, the story would be "Oh, those passionate Phillie/Sawks fans! They're such assholes! Can you believe how assholish those assholes are?" Which is pretty critical. It's just hard to notice that criticism because you hear it all the time.
 
2012-07-11 11:24:10 AM  
Bunting derby. Hit HRs for show, bunt at targets for dough.

You have to run at the pitch when you try to hit it.

Yanks_RSJ: I have a friend who would murder Shane Victorino before he ever let him put on the uniform of his beloved Mets.


Let's just have the players murder each other! The league of the player left alive wins the World Series!
 
2012-07-11 11:26:42 AM  
Exploding baseballs. Wait, hear me out...the baseball is not armed when the pitcher has it. And contact with the catcher's glove won't be enough to arm it. But contact with a bat will be enough to arm it. The next thing the ball touches (the field, a player, a fan, etc.) will detonate it. It works for Michael Bay...
 
2012-07-11 11:28:47 AM  

ManateeGag: Bud Selig is the worse thing to happen to baseball.


I don't disagree, but it's a photo finish between Bud Selig and Scott Boras.
 
2012-07-11 11:32:09 AM  

Sin_City_Superhero: Exploding baseballs. Wait, hear me out...the baseball is not armed when the pitcher has it. And contact with the catcher's glove won't be enough to arm it. But contact with a bat will be enough to arm it. The next thing the ball touches (the field, a player, a fan, etc.) will detonate it. It works for Michael Bay...


I see your exploding baseballs, and I raise you the following:

1 free fan will get a single shot from a sniper rifle.
You know those stuntmen hydraulic platforms that launch them in the air? Yeah, put 'em in random places on the field.
Full contact base running.
The bases will occasionally electrocute you when you step on them - both offensive and defensive players.
Monkeyball rules - you can throw the ball at a runner to get them out.
 
2012-07-11 11:36:42 AM  

madden101: jayhawk88: Also, I thought this link brought up a good point, although admittedly it is quite homer-y. Still...if Phillie or Sawks fans do this, no one says anything beyond "Oh, those passionate Phillie/Sawks fans!"

This. I'm no Royals fan, but I thought ESPN's announcers & reporters were pretty retarded. The use of Philadelphia as an example is especially apropos. Philly fans have a reputation for being assholes, so they probably would've been given a pass (more or less) if they did something like this.

I'm not so sure I like the host team requirement, though. What if Petco Park hosted the ASG this year? Don't HR Derby competitors have to be all-stars first? The Padres' only real HR threat, Carlos Quentin, has been out for nearly 2 months now.


Counter argument: Pudge Rodriguez back in the HR Derby when it was in Detroit.
 
2012-07-11 11:38:51 AM  

zarberg: Sin_City_Superhero: Exploding baseballs. Wait, hear me out...the baseball is not armed when the pitcher has it. And contact with the catcher's glove won't be enough to arm it. But contact with a bat will be enough to arm it. The next thing the ball touches (the field, a player, a fan, etc.) will detonate it. It works for Michael Bay...

I see your exploding baseballs, and I raise you the following:

1 free fan will get a single shot from a sniper rifle.
You know those stuntmen hydraulic platforms that launch them in the air? Yeah, put 'em in random places on the field.
Full contact base running.
The bases will occasionally electrocute you when you step on them - both offensive and defensive players.
Monkeyball rules - you can throw the ball at a runner to get them out.


Ahhhh, taking a page from the NFLs playbook are we?

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2012-07-11 11:40:07 AM  

SuperT: here is how you fix the hr derby. Pitching machine. bonus runs for hitting a spot on demand(a sign pops up that says right, left or center, clowns. live squirrels. hot ladies shagging balls.


Metal bats and bonus points for HRs that go 500+.
 
2012-07-11 11:41:00 AM  

Theropod76: How about using a pitching machine. Then every pitch would be right where the batter wants it. No more waiting for the perfect pitch.


I wanted to jump into the TV and cock punch Jose Bautista as he watched 98% of the pitches go by.

Putting a Hometown guy in the game is going to be awesome when the only representative of the home town team in the All Star game is a pitcher or will the home town team get two automatic entries onto the team if their first is a pitcher?

That or they can let a guy not actually playing in the All Star game participate?
 
2012-07-11 11:42:13 AM  

you have pee hands: SuperT: here is how you fix the hr derby. Pitching machine. bonus runs for hitting a spot on demand(a sign pops up that says right, left or center, clowns. live squirrels. hot ladies shagging balls.

Metal bats and bonus points for HRs that go 500+.


Hell, one of my video games has it right - tally up the total distance of all homers a player hits and use that as their score. Would at least be more exciting than what we have.
 
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