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(Medical Xpress)   From the No Shiat Sherlock Research Institute: Nearly 50% of people hit by stray-bullet shootings are women   (medicalxpress.com) divider line 61
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2012-07-11 01:09:05 PM
 
2012-07-11 01:16:38 PM

Cheron: capt.hollister: I heard that nearly 50% of people hit by stray bullets are of above average median intelligence

Ten people are in a room, nine have IQs of 110 and one has an IQ of 100. This would make the average IQ 109 and nine of the ten above average.


I must be one of those who lower the average.
 
2012-07-11 01:29:43 PM

Sybarite: I think every bullet should cost five thousand dollars. Five thousand dollars for a bullet. Know why? Cos if a bullet cost five thousand dollars, there'd be no more innocent by-standers. That'd be it. Some guy'd be shot you'd be all 'Damn, he must've done something, he's got fifty thousand dollars worth of bullets in his ass!' - C.R.


You do realize lead is cheap and can be melted over your stove right?
 
2012-07-11 01:33:27 PM

igotoofar: More impressive is they quote that 317 people died from 284 events.

That is 33 "Magic Bullets"!!!


www.sonymoviechannel.com
"One shot, two kills."
 
2012-07-11 01:54:58 PM

Virtue: Sybarite: I think every bullet should cost five thousand dollars. Five thousand dollars for a bullet. Know why? Cos if a bullet cost five thousand dollars, there'd be no more innocent by-standers. That'd be it. Some guy'd be shot you'd be all 'Damn, he must've done something, he's got fifty thousand dollars worth of bullets in his ass!' - C.R.

You do realize lead is cheap and can be melted over your stove right?


Also, you can make gunpowder relatively easily, as it's been done for roughly 1,000 years now, and you can do things like reload primers using strike-anywhere matches, etc.
 
2012-07-11 01:55:57 PM

Virtue: Sybarite: I think every bullet should cost five thousand dollars. Five thousand dollars for a bullet. Know why? Cos if a bullet cost five thousand dollars, there'd be no more innocent by-standers. That'd be it. Some guy'd be shot you'd be all 'Damn, he must've done something, he's got fifty thousand dollars worth of bullets in his ass!' - C.R.

You do realize lead is cheap and can be melted over your stove right?


You do realise you need more than lead to make a bullet right?

/not shot.
 
2012-07-11 02:31:39 PM

dready zim: Virtue: Sybarite: I think every bullet should cost five thousand dollars. Five thousand dollars for a bullet. Know why? Cos if a bullet cost five thousand dollars, there'd be no more innocent by-standers. That'd be it. Some guy'd be shot you'd be all 'Damn, he must've done something, he's got fifty thousand dollars worth of bullets in his ass!' - C.R.

You do realize lead is cheap and can be melted over your stove right?

You do realise you need more than lead to make a bullet right?

/not shot.


No you don't. You can make a bullet out of pure lead. You don't *HAVE* to make a jacketed bullet if you keep the velocity reasonably low.

I suspect you are confusing "bullet" and "cartridge", which contains a bullet, along with gunpowder, some sort of casing, and perhaps a primer. Metallic cartridges are easy to reload, and tens of thousands of people do that on a regular basis. It can be done with very basic hand tools like a Lee Loader. In a pinch, you can make the right tools, or improvise them.

You can make gunpowder: The formula for making black powder is nearly a thousand years old now, and you don't need access to modern technology to do it. The main ingredient, saltpeter, can be produced by saving your urine, and in fact this was done for hundreds of years.

You can reload primers using the tips of strike-anywhere matches. In fact, you can use match-heads as a gunpowder substitute in an emergency.

With careful husbanding, you can reload a metallic cartridge a dozen times.

Even when they ultimately go away, you still have the problem of these:

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Every bit as deadly as a modern handgun, they don't require a metallic cartridge, and they are almost as quick to reload by simply exchanging a loaded cylinder for the empty one.
 
2012-07-11 02:36:06 PM

StarlingFive: Some notes.

Women are generally smaller than males. (less stray bullet killings)
They more often work indoors than males. (less stray bullet killings)
They don't hunt near as much. (less time out doors during prime time stray bullet killing time)

I argue that such a high percentage of chicks getting offed might suggest many of these stray bullets might be less than stray.

At the very least saying "LOL, 50 percent of population = 50 percent of deaths" is uh.. not really how that whole science thing works.

/then again the study is a waste of time in the first place.


The majority of "stray bullet shootings" occur in urban areas, since hunters shot by other hunters are more likely to be classified as "hunting accidents" since there was nothing stray about the bullets. And this isn't the '50s, women are probably just as likely as men to be out on the streets when shootings occur.
 
2012-07-11 02:36:17 PM
A local woman was killed at our city park while she was waiting to see the city fireworks show. (pops)

She was the fiancee of a friend of ours - hadn't met her before but saw him every week. Great guy. They'd just become engaged in November and were planning to get married next summer. She was weeks away from defending her doctoral thesis in bioengineering or someshiat - had a job lined up out in Maryland. 34 years old, there to watch the fireworks and have a good time, and suddenly there's a bullet in her head and she's gone.

Absolutely tragic. Just thinking about it makes me feel sick and sad. Such a lovely, BRILLIANT young woman dead, and for what? Because someone thought it would be fun to fire a bullet into the air? fark off. It's absolutely indefensible behavior.
 
2012-07-11 03:22:43 PM

bextraordinary: A local woman was killed at our city park while she was waiting to see the city fireworks show. (pops)

She was the fiancee of a friend of ours - hadn't met her before but saw him every week. Great guy. They'd just become engaged in November and were planning to get married next summer. She was weeks away from defending her doctoral thesis in bioengineering or someshiat - had a job lined up out in Maryland. 34 years old, there to watch the fireworks and have a good time, and suddenly there's a bullet in her head and she's gone.

Absolutely tragic. Just thinking about it makes me feel sick and sad. Such a lovely, BRILLIANT young woman dead, and for what? Because someone thought it would be fun to fire a bullet into the air? fark off. It's absolutely indefensible behavior.


Yes it is: Shooting live rounds into the air in a populated area is inexcusable. Blank rounds are OK if you want to make noise on the 4th of July, and entirely appropriate given the nature of the holiday.

Having said that, your friend hit the bad luck lottery. Best estimate I could find is that about 4.6% of "stray bullet" injuries are due to celebratory firing in the air. If you assume that all accidental deaths due to firearms (613 total in 2007) were due to stray bullets, that would imply that about 28 people are killed in the US every year from that cause. Since not all accidental deaths were from stray bullets, the number must lower.

For perspective, about 40 people are killed each year in the US because of lightning strikes.

That's not condoning the behavior, just pointing out that while there is a real danger, and firing live rounds into the air anywhere near populated areas is a very bad idea, the odds of dying from it are very, very small.

Someone should market "4th of July" loads that have very lightweight, frangible projectiles in them.

I sometimes shoot the flintlock into the air on the 4th, but that's with just a load of powder and a wad on top, no bullet. I didn't do it this year because the grass is so dry, and I limited my shooting to sending 1 lb cans of concrete 280 yards into the opposite side of an unoccupied and remote pond using the cannon.
 
2012-07-11 03:48:39 PM

dittybopper: BobDeluxe: dittybopper: , Ric Romero has been alerted. That said... The findings are still interesting given that most perpetrators of gun violence in the US are men. Therefore people might have assumed that stray bullets were chiefly hitting men that were hanging around other gun totin' men (and one might have argued that they were, in a sense, asking for it, given that they were hanging around such dudes). But clearly there are lots of innocent bystanders getting caught in the crossfire too.

Faulty assumption: If the men hanging around other gun totin' men were asking for it, why weren't the women who were hanging around gun totin' men asking for it?

That's racist sexist.

FTFY.


That was actually intentional but thanks anyway.....
 
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