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(Medical Xpress)   From the No Shiat Sherlock Research Institute: Nearly 50% of people hit by stray-bullet shootings are women   (medicalxpress.com) divider line 61
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2012-07-11 07:39:50 AM  
Did they check who the other 50 per cent are?
 
2012-07-11 08:24:20 AM  

colinspooky: Did they check who the other 50 per cent are?


That would be racist.
 
2012-07-11 09:23:29 AM  
I think every bullet should cost five thousand dollars. Five thousand dollars for a bullet. Know why? Cos if a bullet cost five thousand dollars, there'd be no more innocent by-standers. That'd be it. Some guy'd be shot you'd be all 'Damn, he must've done something, he's got fifty thousand dollars worth of bullets in his ass!' - C.R.
 
2012-07-11 09:53:17 AM  
Why would anyone discharge a gun in the direction of their kitchen? You might damage your appliances!
 
2012-07-11 09:57:43 AM  
Stray Bullets: Equal Opportunity Wounders
 
2012-07-11 09:58:07 AM  
Well since guys are fighting over drugs and women, half the time they hit the womenz and half the time they hit the drugs with stray bullets.
 
2012-07-11 09:59:05 AM  
50 percent??

so thats how he came up with the name, after getting hit by a bullet?
 
2012-07-11 09:59:20 AM  

DerAppie: Why would anyone discharge a gun in the direction of their kitchen? You might damage your appliances!


'Cuz that's where the biatch is at.

/ aisle seat, please
 
2012-07-11 09:59:47 AM  

Sybarite: I think every bullet should cost five thousand dollars. Five thousand dollars for a bullet. Know why? Cos if a bullet cost five thousand dollars, there'd be no more innocent by-standers. That'd be it. Some guy'd be shot you'd be all 'Damn, he must've done something, he's got fifty thousand dollars worth of bullets in his ass!' - C.R.


Wouldn't make much of a difference.
When drug dealers aren't getting free samples from the ATF, they busy themselves by ignoring import laws and taxes on things like this.

Not like they'll need a whole lot either.
Its kinda like hunting VS target shooting. A hunter only "needs" a dozen bullets for the season, where a target shooter can blow threw a hundred in a single session.
 
2012-07-11 10:03:17 AM  
I blame bush.
 
2012-07-11 10:06:12 AM  
This changes EVERYTHING!
 
2012-07-11 10:10:22 AM  

bighairyguy: I blame bush.


epicfreebies.com
 
2012-07-11 10:16:11 AM  
At last, women are finally sharing a burden evenly. Way to go ladies, at least you came through where it counts.

If anyone needs me, I'll be hiding in my bunker.
 
2012-07-11 10:16:13 AM  
More impressive is they quote that 317 people died from 284 events.

That is 33 "Magic Bullets"!!!
 
2012-07-11 10:18:50 AM  
Man, what are the odds?!
 
2012-07-11 10:19:23 AM  
"World to end tomorrow: Women and children hardest hit".
 
2012-07-11 10:21:15 AM  
They've done studies, you know. 60% of the time, it works every time.
 
2012-07-11 10:21:28 AM  
This just in: If you flip a coin it will come up heads about 50% of the time!
 
2012-07-11 10:24:36 AM  
I heard that nearly 50% of people hit by stray bullets are of above average intelligence
 
2012-07-11 10:25:10 AM  

BobDeluxe: At last, women are finally sharing a burden evenly. Way to go ladies, at least you came through where it counts.

If anyone needs me, I'll be hiding in my bunker.


Subtle, or Freudian?
 
2012-07-11 10:25:14 AM  
Fun Fact: "in companies with a traditional Monday to Friday work week nearly 40% of sick time is taken on Mondays or Fridays." The more you know
 
2012-07-11 10:27:15 AM  

capt.hollister: I heard that nearly 50% of people hit by stray bullets are of above average median intelligence


Ten people are in a room, nine have IQs of 110 and one has an IQ of 100. This would make the average IQ 109 and nine of the ten above average.
 
2012-07-11 10:28:13 AM  
a real hate crime rft!
 
2012-07-11 10:28:29 AM  

dragonchild: BobDeluxe: At last, women are finally sharing a burden evenly. Way to go ladies, at least you came through where it counts.

If anyone needs me, I'll be hiding in my bunker.

Subtle, or Freudian?


What I did there - I see it. Now.

Obviously Freudian.
 
2012-07-11 10:29:16 AM  

igotoofar: More impressive is they quote that 317 people died from 284 events.

That is 33 "Magic Bullets"!!!


The maths.
 
2012-07-11 10:35:14 AM  
That's like the boss complaining that nearly 40% of our sick days are used on Mondays and Fridays.
 
2012-07-11 10:35:58 AM  
It does seem rather odd that half off the bullets would hit women. You would expect the great majority of random bullets to hit just regular people.
 
2012-07-11 10:37:42 AM  
FTFA: "...and nearly half (44.8 percent) were females"
 
2012-07-11 10:39:42 AM  
"To gather data for the study, Wintemute and his colleagues used Google and Yahoo news alerting services and the news archives of GunPolicy.org to track stories published between March 2008 and February 2009 that contained the phrase "stray bullet."

Wow... what a scientific study...
 
2012-07-11 10:41:15 AM  
Bullets don't care. Just like Honey Badger.
 
2012-07-11 10:41:21 AM  
Feminism at work.
 
2012-07-11 10:43:11 AM  
And you would think the Glass Ceiling would be bulletproof glass.
 
2012-07-11 10:50:33 AM  

Click Click D'oh: "To gather data for the study, Wintemute and his colleagues used Google and Yahoo news alerting services and the news archives of GunPolicy.org to track stories published between March 2008 and February 2009 that contained the phrase "stray bullet."

Wow... what a scientific study...


Actually, for the purposes of getting to the one number subby used, it's not half bad. There would be biases, but none that would impact that particular result. For example, news sites might focus on gruesome (read: deadly) and/or "tragic" (read: white, young) victims, so this would be bad in terms of how many stray bullets were fatal or struck people of a certain race or age. Gender, erm, maybe a bias toward women, but for the cost of just crawling some websites you could do a lot worse.

If they stuck to that, the methodology wouldn't be half as dumb as breaking down stray bullet victims by gender in the first place. So of course TFA goes beyond that and tries to stratify the data further.
 
2012-07-11 11:02:42 AM  
This must be part of that polite society that comes from being armed.
 
2012-07-11 11:05:59 AM  

Click Click D'oh: "To gather data for the study, Wintemute and his colleagues used Google and Yahoo news alerting services and the news archives of GunPolicy.org to track stories published between March 2008 and February 2009 that contained the phrase "stray bullet."

Wow... what a scientific study...


It's Wintemute. He's got a long history of bullshiat anti-gun studies. It's his "thang".
 
2012-07-11 11:08:16 AM  
shouldn't it be smaller, cause they have a smaller form factor?
 
2012-07-11 11:09:27 AM  
Turns out that old news is fun...

Here's the same "study" being issued in 2011.
 
2012-07-11 11:09:41 AM  

proteus_b: shouldn't it be smaller, cause they have a smaller form factor?


Not in America.
 
2012-07-11 11:11:04 AM  
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2012-07-11 11:13:31 AM  

dragonchild: Click Click D'oh: "To gather data for the study, Wintemute and his colleagues used Google and Yahoo news alerting services and the news archives of GunPolicy.org to track stories published between March 2008 and February 2009 that contained the phrase "stray bullet."

Wow... what a scientific study...

Actually, for the purposes of getting to the one number subby used, it's not half bad. There would be biases, but none that would impact that particular result. For example, news sites might focus on gruesome (read: deadly) and/or "tragic" (read: white, young) victims, so this would be bad in terms of how many stray bullets were fatal or struck people of a certain race or age. Gender, erm, maybe a bias toward women, but for the cost of just crawling some websites you could do a lot worse.

If they stuck to that, the methodology wouldn't be half as dumb as breaking down stray bullet victims by gender in the first place. So of course TFA goes beyond that and tries to stratify the data further.


Yes, but because the results match what you expected doesn't make them right.
 
2012-07-11 11:27:00 AM  
This might seem trivial but I would've wondered if there were more drivebys where women aren't hanging around, or if women would've already gone inside at the first sign, or if they were more likely to be hanging out in front where the shooty happens.
 
2012-07-11 11:28:10 AM  
Yes, yes, Ric Romero has been alerted. That said... The findings are still interesting given that most perpetrators of gun violence in the US are men. Therefore people might have assumed that stray bullets were chiefly hitting men that were hanging around other gun totin' men (and one might have argued that they were, in a sense, asking for it, given that they were hanging around such dudes). But clearly there are lots of innocent bystanders getting caught in the crossfire too.
 
2012-07-11 11:29:22 AM  
Poor broads. First war now this ?
 
2012-07-11 11:51:48 AM  
Wait if the number of outcomes are equally obtained wouldn't that prove there is nothing random about the stray bullets?

I'd argue the bullets weren't "stray" at all!

It's a conspiracy!!!!!
 
2012-07-11 11:53:56 AM  

farkingnotworking: Yes, yes, Ric Romero has been alerted. That said... The findings are still interesting given that most perpetrators of gun violence in the US are men. Therefore people might have assumed that stray bullets were chiefly hitting men that were hanging around other gun totin' men (and one might have argued that they were, in a sense, asking for it, given that they were hanging around such dudes). But clearly there are lots of innocent bystanders getting caught in the crossfire too.


Faulty assumption: If the men hanging around other gun totin' men were asking for it, why weren't the women who were hanging around gun totin' men asking for it?
 
2012-07-11 12:02:28 PM  

dittybopper: , Ric Romero has been alerted. That said... The findings are still interesting given that most perpetrators of gun violence in the US are men. Therefore people might have assumed that stray bullets were chiefly hitting men that were hanging around other gun totin' men (and one might have argued that they were, in a sense, asking for it, given that they were hanging around such dudes). But clearly there are lots of innocent bystanders getting caught in the crossfire too.

Faulty assumption: If the men hanging around other gun totin' men were asking for it, why weren't the women who were hanging around gun totin' men asking for it?


That's racist.
 
2012-07-11 12:13:43 PM  
Some notes.

Women are generally smaller than males. (less stray bullet killings)
They more often work indoors than males. (less stray bullet killings)
They don't hunt near as much. (less time out doors during prime time stray bullet killing time)

I argue that such a high percentage of chicks getting offed might suggest many of these stray bullets might be less than stray.

At the very least saying "LOL, 50 percent of population = 50 percent of deaths" is uh.. not really how that whole science thing works.

/then again the study is a waste of time in the first place.
 
2012-07-11 12:26:32 PM  

BobDeluxe: dittybopper: , Ric Romero has been alerted. That said... The findings are still interesting given that most perpetrators of gun violence in the US are men. Therefore people might have assumed that stray bullets were chiefly hitting men that were hanging around other gun totin' men (and one might have argued that they were, in a sense, asking for it, given that they were hanging around such dudes). But clearly there are lots of innocent bystanders getting caught in the crossfire too.

Faulty assumption: If the men hanging around other gun totin' men were asking for it, why weren't the women who were hanging around gun totin' men asking for it?

That's racist sexist.


FTFY.
 
2012-07-11 12:57:33 PM  

dittybopper: farkingnotworking: Yes, yes, Ric Romero has been alerted. That said... The findings are still interesting given that most perpetrators of gun violence in the US are men. Therefore people might have assumed that stray bullets were chiefly hitting men that were hanging around other gun totin' men (and one might have argued that they were, in a sense, asking for it, given that they were hanging around such dudes). But clearly there are lots of innocent bystanders getting caught in the crossfire too.

Faulty assumption: If the men hanging around other gun totin' men were asking for it, why weren't the women who were hanging around gun totin' men asking for it?


I am guessing that when people pile into cars to go settle a dispute with guns, they are taking their primarily male crew with them. At least that is what I've learned from my extensive research watching Clint Eastwood movies and rap videos.
 
2012-07-11 01:05:28 PM  

igotoofar: More impressive is they quote that 317 people died from 284 events.

That is 33 "Magic Bullets"!!!


Supposedly there was an amputation operation once that had 300% mortality:
- Patient died
- Doctor nicked assistant with saw, wound turned septic and assistant died
- Bystander died from shock (heart attack?)
 
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