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2012-07-11 10:02:34 AM
Wait, Kim Dotcom isn't that hot cartoon chick from those car insurance commercials?
 
2012-07-11 10:03:11 AM
I see this story ending with a followup headline:

"Private Jet Carrying Kim Dotcom And Legal Counsel Mysteriously Crashes In Atlantic Ocean"
 
2012-07-11 10:04:01 AM

Grither: Wait, Kim Dotcom isn't that hot cartoon chick from those car insurance commercials?


No silly rabbit...that's Kim Kommando.
 
2012-07-11 10:13:31 AM
I'd seriously hate to see what happens to that guy in prison.
 
2012-07-11 10:16:37 AM

FinFangFark: I see this story ending with a followup headline:

"Private Jet Carrying Kim Dotcom And Legal Counsel Mysteriously Crashes In Atlantic Ocean"


That's the only way it can end. If his body isn't dumped in the ocean, it might be recovered and enshrined by hardline pirates.
 
2012-07-11 10:23:29 AM
I don't get it.
 
2012-07-11 10:34:54 AM

TeDDD: That's the only way it can end. If his body isn't dumped in the ocean, it might be recovered and enshrined by hardline pirates.


A pirate's body enshrined:
myths.e2bn.org
 
2012-07-11 10:35:26 AM

Fubini: I'd seriously hate to see what happens to that guy in prison.


He's not going to prison. He hasn't violated any laws in any jurisdiction that has actual authority over him. Team America: World Police was fictional.
 
2012-07-11 10:45:51 AM

t3knomanser: Fubini: I'd seriously hate to see what happens to that guy in prison.

He's not going to prison. He hasn't violated any laws in any jurisdiction that has actual authority over him. Team America: World Police was fictional.


Bu bu but puppet scat!
 
2012-07-11 10:51:36 AM

doglover: I don't get it.


Kim Dotcom is the founder of website MegaUpload, a file sharing service. He had his house in New Zealand raided after an indictment for copyright infringement, the New Zealand authorities worked together with the FBI (and numerous other police agencies) and as part of that raid a judge had ruled that proper steps were not taken with the warrant on what was considered relevent, and if the FBI had the authority to clone the hard drives and take those copies out of the country.

Kim, who is currently out on bail in New Zealand, says the case is crumbling against him, and he wants to make a deal. He tweeted they will not need to extricate him, he'll come to the US to stand against the charges willingly, provided they unfreeze his bank accounts. If they choose not to take this he is saying they'll be forced to do a discovery on if they stepped beyond their bounds in retrieving evidence.

I thought the terms of his bail forbade internet usage though, so him offering this on Twitter doesn't seem like the brightest idea.
 
2012-07-11 10:52:36 AM
Unless they've moved New Zealand, it will be the Pacific ocean, not the Atlantic.
 
2012-07-11 10:58:10 AM
Everything else aside, I hope bad things happen to him just because of his idiotic name.
 
2012-07-11 10:58:24 AM

Lumbar Puncture: doglover: I don't get it.

Kim Dotcom is the founder of website MegaUpload, a file sharing service. He had his house in New Zealand raided after an indictment for copyright infringement, the New Zealand authorities worked together with the FBI (and numerous other police agencies) and as part of that raid a judge had ruled that proper steps were not taken with the warrant on what was considered relevent, and if the FBI had the authority to clone the hard drives and take those copies out of the country.

Kim, who is currently out on bail in New Zealand, says the case is crumbling against him, and he wants to make a deal. He tweeted they will not need to extricate him, he'll come to the US to stand against the charges willingly, provided they unfreeze his bank accounts. If they choose not to take this he is saying they'll be forced to do a discovery on if they stepped beyond their bounds in retrieving evidence.

I thought the terms of his bail forbade internet usage though, so him offering this on Twitter doesn't seem like the brightest idea.


It's not the internet if you do it with your phone.
 
2012-07-11 11:04:26 AM

ArcadianRefugee: Everything else aside, I hope bad things happen to him just because of his idiotic name.


Also given the fact that Kim is living in New Zealand due to legal troubles in his places of previous residence, this guy is far from some innocent victim. That being said, the FBI's freezing of all the users files and the warrants were pretty much bullshiat.
 
2012-07-11 11:08:05 AM
Not that I think he should be indicted, but anyone how changes his last name to "DotCom" is pretty much a total douche and I don't fret too much what happens to him because of this....
 
2012-07-11 11:11:16 AM
My prediction, this will drag out for another year or so, he will then give up all his intellectual property rights and half his money and it will go away.
 
2012-07-11 11:21:45 AM

Lumbar Puncture: doglover: I don't get it.

Kim Dotcom is the founder of website MegaUpload, a file sharing service. He had his house in New Zealand raided after an indictment for copyright infringement, the New Zealand authorities worked together with the FBI (and numerous other police agencies) and as part of that raid a judge had ruled that proper steps were not taken with the warrant on what was considered relevent, and if the FBI had the authority to clone the hard drives and take those copies out of the country.

Kim, who is currently out on bail in New Zealand, says the case is crumbling against him, and he wants to make a deal. He tweeted they will not need to extricate him, he'll come to the US to stand against the charges willingly, provided they unfreeze his bank accounts. If they choose not to take this he is saying they'll be forced to do a discovery on if they stepped beyond their bounds in retrieving evidence.

I thought the terms of his bail forbade internet usage though, so him offering this on Twitter doesn't seem like the brightest idea.


The best part was the FBI's excuse that they didn't steal the files... they just copied them.
 
2012-07-11 11:22:06 AM
This video: Link
tells you everything youll ever need to know about Kim "Douchbag German Eurotrash" Schmitz.
 
2012-07-11 11:24:59 AM

Lumbar Puncture: doglover: I don't get it.

Kim Dotcom is the founder of website MegaUpload, a file sharing service. He had his house in New Zealand raided after an indictment for copyright infringement, the New Zealand authorities worked together with the FBI (and numerous other police agencies) and as part of that raid a judge had ruled that proper steps were not taken with the warrant on what was considered relevent, and if the FBI had the authority to clone the hard drives and take those copies out of the country.

Kim, who is currently out on bail in New Zealand, says the case is crumbling against him, and he wants to make a deal. He tweeted they will not need to extricate him, he'll come to the US to stand against the charges willingly, provided they unfreeze his bank accounts. If they choose not to take this he is saying they'll be forced to do a discovery on if they stepped beyond their bounds in retrieving evidence.

I thought the terms of his bail forbade internet usage though, so him offering this on Twitter doesn't seem like the brightest idea.


Was he forbade computer usage or internet usage. If just the former then using his phone might be okay. If it was the later, he could always have dictated the tweet to someone else and provided them with his login information and would still be in the clear.
 
2012-07-11 11:37:56 AM

Tom_Slick: My prediction, this will drag out for another year or so, he will then give up all his intellectual property rights and half his money and it will go away.


What intellectual property rights are those? The guy doesn't actually do anything worthwhile except facilitating the loss of intellectual property rights for others.

Be that as it may, this bust has already had a pretty impressive effect. People are purchasing more legit media over the Interwebs, file sharers are busy blocking US IP addresses, and some of the banner ad vendors etc. (who provide revenue for people such as Mr. Dotcom) have taken notice. that perhaps Pizza Hut doesn't want to advertise on a website designed to sell stuff that isn't yours.

/In the Biz
 
2012-07-11 11:40:37 AM
How do those big fingers hit those tiny keys?
 
2012-07-11 11:45:53 AM

Erik_Emune: What intellectual property rights are those? The guy doesn't actually do anything worthwhile except facilitating the loss of intellectual property rights for others.


The megaupload scripts, names, branding etc. I guarantee if anyone had stolen those he would have went after them. Don't get me wrong I spent a decade in the software biz and I hate these pirates, but it just seems the most likely course to shut him down.
 
2012-07-11 11:50:15 AM

Erik_Emune: What intellectual property rights are those? The guy doesn't actually do anything worthwhile except facilitating the loss of intellectual property rights for others.


Before the FBI pulled the plug, the megaupload porn site was absolutely awesome. And free.
 
2012-07-11 12:14:30 PM

FinFangFark: Grither: Wait, Kim Dotcom isn't that hot cartoon chick from those car insurance commercials?

No silly rabbit...that's Kim Kommando.


I thought she was that teenage superspy that solved mysteries with her hangeron guy friend and his naked molerat.
 
2012-07-11 12:19:55 PM

Dalek Caan's doomed mistress: Was he forbade computer usage or internet usage


I found a different article that mentions that the ban was lifted in April, so I was mistaken.
 
jvl
2012-07-11 02:08:07 PM
That's "Convicted Inside-Trader and Convicted Embezzler Kim Dotcom" subby.

Got to get those titles right.
 
2012-07-11 02:40:41 PM

jvl: That's "Convicted Inside-Trader and Convicted Embezzler Kim Dotcom" subby.

Got to get those titles right.


No shiat. This dude is a grade A scumbag and thief. I have no idea why people think he's some kind of hero. If he was a banker rather than some internet dude, Farkers would be calling for his head.
 
2012-07-11 03:00:10 PM

DeathByGeekSquad: How do those big fingers hit those tiny keys?


I hear they're working on dialling wands for keyboards. Here's an infomercial for it.

Link
 
2012-07-11 03:02:50 PM
Whenever I read "Kim Dotcom" I immediately picture this hot number.

www.komando.com

/I also think of her going "Komando" in them jeans
//mmmmm
 
2012-07-11 03:58:24 PM
"The trouble with fighting for human freedom is that one spends most of one's time defending scoundrels. For it is against scoundrels that oppressive laws are first aimed, and oppression must be stopped at the beginning if it is to be stopped at all."

-Henry Louis Mencken
 
2012-07-11 06:19:06 PM

Kazujin: "The trouble with fighting for human freedom is that one spends most of one's time defending scoundrels. For it is against scoundrels that oppressive laws are first aimed, and oppression must be stopped at the beginning if it is to be stopped at all."

-Henry Louis Mencken


For an example of this in action, look to asset seizures. Here's how it went:

Government: We're going to seize the yachts and planes of South American drug lords.
Public: Awesome
Government: That worked very well. Now we're going to seize the mansions of our domestic drug lords.
Public: Cool
Government: That was great. Now we're going to seize the BMWs of the street dealers.
Public: Uhm, ok?
Government: Your friend had a joint in his pocket. We're going to seize your Toyota.
Public: WTF!?
 
2012-07-11 06:57:38 PM

Erik_Emune: Tom_Slick: My prediction, this will drag out for another year or so, he will then give up all his intellectual property rights and half his money and it will go away.

What intellectual property rights are those? The guy doesn't actually do anything worthwhile except facilitating the loss of intellectual property rights for others.

Be that as it may, this bust has already had a pretty impressive effect. People are purchasing more legit media over the Interwebs, file sharers are busy blocking US IP addresses, and some of the banner ad vendors etc. (who provide revenue for people such as Mr. Dotcom) have taken notice. that perhaps Pizza Hut doesn't want to advertise on a website designed to sell stuff that isn't yours.

/In the Biz


And reeking of Bullshiat

Next up, you are going to claim that the private toll companies are doing something illegal because they are making money on the trafficking of drugs and people on their roads.

Just because someone provides a service and that service in some instances is used for very loosely "Illegal" means does not make the creator a criminal. Also, there were plenty of things removed once they were reported.

And finally, this did not stop or slow anything. There are still tons of sites that provide the exact same services as megaupload that are used instead. So basically the US government overplayed their hand and it amounted to accomplishing nothing.
 
jvl
2012-07-11 06:59:19 PM

Kazujin: "The trouble with fighting for human freedom is that one spends most of one's time defending scoundrels. For it is against scoundrels that oppressive laws are first aimed, and oppression must be stopped at the beginning if it is to be stopped at all."

-Henry Louis Mencken


Uh... and what principle of freedom is at stake here? And is defense of Convicted Inside-Trader and Embezzler Kim Dotcom really the only way to establish this freedom?
 
2012-07-11 07:37:52 PM

Lumbar Puncture: I thought the terms of his bail forbade internet usage though, so him offering this on Twitter doesn't seem like the brightest idea.


I can tweet via SMS on my dumbphone.
 
2012-07-11 07:44:01 PM

jvl: Kazujin: "The trouble with fighting for human freedom is that one spends most of one's time defending scoundrels. For it is against scoundrels that oppressive laws are first aimed, and oppression must be stopped at the beginning if it is to be stopped at all."

-Henry Louis Mencken

Uh... and what principle of freedom is at stake here? And is defense of Convicted Inside-Trader and Embezzler Kim Dotcom really the only way to establish this freedom?


How about the fact they didn't go by the book?
OR the fact that the government is more towards enforcing corporate interests?
Or how about overstepping bounds and enforcing US laws overseas?
They went after this guy stronger than they go after most drug lords. And he hasn't even done anything all that bad, considering Mexican cartels and how bad our border towns are.
The feds didn't do things properly.
Now they don't really have much of an actual case?
But they put him out of business. So score one for the good 'ol boys in charge. Political favor complete.

And sadly, yeah. If our government can't behave against the worst of the worst, I don't trust them to behave against anyone else.

You can't say you're the good guys and then do bad things to catch the bad guys. It's not a matter of getting the bad guy. It's the way you get the bad guy that matters. You can't represent justice and then do shady, dirty barely, legal tactics. Otherwise you have no right to enforce justice.

It's almost as if these guys watched too many Charles Bronson movies.

It's almost as bad as the torture and water-boarding of 'enemy combatants'.
I know this thread isn't about that, but yes. You have to stand up for the rights of Kim Dotcom, douche-bag extraordinaire and the guy who just killed 500 civilians. It's not a matter of it they deserve it or not. It's a matter of doing the right thing from beginning all the way through the right way. Then from an even hand distributing justice.

Dream world thinking, I guess.
 
jvl
2012-07-11 08:05:52 PM

Kazujin: How about the fact they didn't go by the book?
OR the fact that the government is more towards enforcing corporate interests?
Or how about overstepping bounds and enforcing US laws overseas?


So pretty much all procedural qualms which will be sorted out in court. No Great Principles as you previously implied with your high-minded quote.


It's almost as bad as the torture and water-boarding of 'enemy combatants'.

Not sure if serious. Or maybe that comparison got away from you and you didn't notice how incredibly stupid it was.
 
2012-07-11 08:13:01 PM
Erik_Emune:

Shoot me an email. I am gathering contacts for folks like us.

/I will be happy to provide further information on who I am.
//EIP.
 
2012-07-11 08:41:55 PM

jvl: Kazujin: How about the fact they didn't go by the book?
OR the fact that the government is more towards enforcing corporate interests?
Or how about overstepping bounds and enforcing US laws overseas?

So pretty much all procedural qualms which will be sorted out in court. No Great Principles as you previously implied with your high-minded quote.


It's almost as bad as the torture and water-boarding of 'enemy combatants'.

Not sure if serious. Or maybe that comparison got away from you and you didn't notice how incredibly stupid it was.


Oh. Is that what you call illegal warrants, breaking of New Zealand law by US federal agents and destruction of an international company? Procedural qualm?

That's cute.
 
2012-07-12 04:06:31 AM

Rent Party: jvl: That's "Convicted Inside-Trader and Convicted Embezzler Kim Dotcom" subby.

Got to get those titles right.

No shiat. This dude is a grade A scumbag and thief. I have no idea why people think he's some kind of hero. If he was a banker rather than some internet dude, Farkers would be calling for his head.


I'm not calling for his head. But even he was a banker, or a lawyer, or I guess yeah, even a politician, then I think he should have at least have the assets to mount a legal defense. Sure, I understand that Hollywood thinks they deserve to partition out his cash amongst themselves, but making it impossible to pay lawyers for a fair trial is a bit beyond the pale.
 
2012-07-12 10:08:48 AM
It's not so much that kim's a hero it's that the other side is worse. it's the douche vs AIDS dynamic
 
2012-07-12 04:02:33 PM

Kazrath: Next up, you are going to claim that the private toll companies are doing something illegal because they are making money on the trafficking of drugs and people on their roads.

Ehm - no?

Just because someone provides a service and that service in some instances is used for very loosely "Illegal" means does not make the creator a criminal. Also, there were plenty of things removed once they were reported.

Yeah, those files were all Linux distros. And paying people for the number of times their files were downloaded did not in any way, shape or form encourage people to put copyrighted material on the Megaupload servers.

And finally, this did not stop or slow anything. There are still tons of sites that provide the exact same services as megaupload that are used instead. So basically the US government overplayed their hand and it amounted to accomplishing nothing.
It appears I have better data on that than you do.
 
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