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(Entertainment Weekly)   Lionsgate announces Hunger Games 3 and 4, even though there are only 3 books, last of which is a three-parter. At least Hollywood isn't trying to divide by zero   (popwatch.ew.com) divider line 35
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2012-07-11 09:19:40 AM
If they're smart, they'll drag it out to six films, each of which will make more money than The Avengers.

Part 1: One film, already complete.
Part 2: Two films.
Part 3: Three films.
 
2012-07-11 10:43:48 AM
 
2012-07-11 11:13:19 AM
The Hunger Games sucked
 
2012-07-11 11:14:43 AM
Milk the cow.
 
2012-07-11 11:14:47 AM
BREAKING: Hollywood is a business that tries to maximize profit. Developing...
 
2012-07-11 11:17:36 AM

thornhill: BREAKING: Hollywood is a business that tries to maximize profit. Developing...


FWIW, I completely agree with this. What I think is fascinating is that people will literally pay three separate times to watch the visualization of a book they *already read.*

Once? Sure.
Twice? enh...
Three Times? seriously, WTF?

You can read "MockingJay" faster than it will take to watch three seperate movies of the thing.
 
2012-07-11 11:17:47 AM
The fourth one's just extras from the Battle Royale DVD.
 
2012-07-11 11:19:25 AM
Let's not forget what's important here.

www.hiblarious.com
 
2012-07-11 11:23:29 AM
I can't hate on Hunger Games too much. It's because of it that Battle Royale finally got released on video here in the US. Oh, and also...

Brian Blessed's Bastard Boy: [www.hiblarious.com image 553x360]


...that.
 
2012-07-11 11:24:58 AM
"The Hunger Games II: May The Odds"
"The Hunger Games III: Be Ever"
"The Hunger Games IV: In Your Favor"



Done.
 
2012-07-11 11:34:29 AM

The Homer Tax: thornhill: BREAKING: Hollywood is a business that tries to maximize profit. Developing...

FWIW, I completely agree with this. What I think is fascinating is that people will literally pay three separate times to watch the visualization of a book they *already read.*

Once? Sure.
Twice? enh...
Three Times? seriously, WTF?

You can read "MockingJay" faster than it will take to watch three seperate movies of the thing.


Well, what I don't get is why people pay to even go to the movies anymore when everything is released on Blu-ray only several months after the theatrical run, I can rent it for for a fraction of the price of the movie ticket, and my home audio system boasts better clarity than the poorly calibrated systems in most theaters.
 
2012-07-11 12:02:07 PM
Silly ? Well, not really. First film seemed a bit rushed, but i liked it.
Having read the books, I agree that the third book should be split into 2 as it has a lot of things that just cannot be condensed into anything less than 4-6 hours .
/my .02
 
2012-07-11 12:05:21 PM
LotR did it in three. Hunger Games is no farking LotR.

I just finished the series because the womens I know rave about it, but to me it was so poorly paced it took a huge effort to finish them. Do all of that author's books read so horribly? I kept hoping that the end would reveal why the hero's-perspective narration felt so disjointed, such as she was in an asylum and what we were reading was insane ramblings, but that wasn't the case.

I really don't want to keep being the type of person who Hates Popular Stuff™, so that's why I gave it a chance, but I HATED the writing. There was no tension, no build-up, no character moments.

A very frustrating read.
 
2012-07-11 12:12:47 PM

Weisenheimer: LotR did it in three. Hunger Games is no farking LotR.


I see your point, but Hunger Games isn't using three-and-a-half-hour installments to do it, either.
 
2012-07-11 12:17:07 PM

Weisenheimer: A very frustrating read.


I liked the first book. Second book started getting wonky. Wheels were off the bus in the third. Her pacing was completely jumbled. I imagine they'll use this profit-grabbing venture to smooth out the really disjointed issues in the third.
 
2012-07-11 12:51:53 PM
Book three was really rushed and could benefit from some world building and extra detail. If they get a good screen writer there is definitely enough material for two or three movies in that book.
 
2012-07-11 12:53:52 PM

Weisenheimer:
I just finished the series because the womens I know rave about it, but to me it was so poorly paced it took a huge effort to finish them. Do all of that author's books read so horribly? I kept hoping that the end would reveal why the hero's-perspective narration felt so disjointed, such as she was in an asylum and what we were reading was insane ramblings, but that wasn't the case.


That's how I felt about the movie. I thought at the end we would find out that it was all a dream and that the director is in an insane asylum.
 
2012-07-11 01:31:50 PM
So, I read the books because of the hype and they were free on my kindle. Why the heck are they so popular? There was one part that went something like "There was the hospital, I knew it was the hospital because X" How does writing that lazy get to be published, let alone popular?? It just felt like every part was so damn obvious. Foreshadowing should be used to give readers that "A Ha!" feeling, not tell the whole story before you even write it. "Coin doesn't like you, you better stand with Coin, Coin was planning to martyr you." Gee I wonder what's going to happen to Coin? I am glad that I didn't pay money for them, but I am a bit bummed I have to wait until August to get my next free kindle book.
 
2012-07-11 01:43:50 PM
Carth
Book three was really rushed and could benefit from some world building and extra detail.


Actually, I think book two would have benefited a lot more from some world building.
 
2012-07-11 01:54:07 PM
The last book is so far departed from the other two books I have no idea how they are going to make it work.

Film #3, aka Mockingjay Part 1, should basically be similar to the last half of Full Metal Jacket/Platoon/Clockwork Orange (with a little bit of Independence Day mixed in). Part 2 will be like Black Hawk Down with a heartwrenching twist ending...almost like they should get M. Night to direct it: it's right up his alley....maybe he could deliver the clues other than one line from President Snow.

The last book is good if you like war movies but I don't see them being able to switch gears like that...they played up the romance too much.
 
2012-07-11 01:58:45 PM

The Voice of Doom: Carth
Book three was really rushed and could benefit from some world building and extra detail.

Actually, I think book two would have benefited a lot more from some world building.


that too. I wouldn't have minded seeing a bit more of the districts during the tour. They could do books 2-3 in 3-4 movies pretty easy if htey want to drag it out.
 
2012-07-11 01:59:37 PM
Knowing Hollywood, Movie #4 will be a reboot of Movie #1
 
2012-07-11 02:12:45 PM

Weisenheimer: LotR did it in three. Hunger Games is no farking LotR.

I just finished the series because the womens I know rave about it, but to me it was so poorly paced it took a huge effort to finish them. Do all of that author's books read so horribly? I kept hoping that the end would reveal why the hero's-perspective narration felt so disjointed, such as she was in an asylum and what we were reading was insane ramblings, but that wasn't the case.

I really don't want to keep being the type of person who Hates Popular Stuff™, so that's why I gave it a chance, but I HATED the writing. There was no tension, no build-up, no character moments.

A very frustrating read.


When I read the first book, I always felt like it was written with the sole purpose of being a movie.

It reads like a movie, if that makes sense.
 
2012-07-11 02:40:08 PM
I'm 2/3s through the first book. To me it reads like the author made up plot devices as she went along.

Ok she's badly burned.. hmmm... oh yeah sponsors can get her medicine.. but how.. damn... oh a parachute appears out of nowhere with medicine.

She's up a tree so... um... ok... yeah there's a bees nest and not just any kind of bee, but a super genetically modified bee.

Ok so things are going well.. but how am I going to get over the fact that the two main characters will have to kill one another at some point?...shiat.... oh they'll change the rules!


It's a light, interesting read, but kinda dumb at the same time.
 
2012-07-11 02:41:58 PM

The Homer Tax: When I read the first book, I always felt like it was written with the sole purpose of being a movie.

It reads like a movie, if that makes sense.



I felt the same way. I was a little apprehensive at the first-person POV when I borrowed the books on a friend's recommendation, but I found Collins' economical (albeit bland and unimaginative) writing style made it feel more like a screenplay. You could almost build the shots in your mind, rather than the universe they're in.

Hopefully, the screenwriters take this opportunity to flesh out some of the rapid-fire conclusions in the third book.
 
2012-07-11 02:44:06 PM

The Homer Tax: It reads like a movie, if that makes sense.


Well the author got her start in TV writing.. so maybe that's the issue.
 
2012-07-11 02:48:24 PM
The conclusion of Mockingjay read like the end of a last-minute creative writing paper. I'm not saying that the rest of the books were amazing but that ending felt really thrown together.
 
2012-07-11 03:11:18 PM

MugzyBrown: I'm 2/3s through the first book. To me it reads like the author made up plot devices as she went along.

Ok she's badly burned.. hmmm... oh yeah sponsors can get her medicine.. but how.. damn... oh a parachute appears out of nowhere with medicine.


You missed have missed the part on the train where Haymitch explains how sponsors can purchase items to help the tributes and how those items are often the difference between life and death.


She's up a tree so... um... ok... yeah there's a bees nest and not just any kind of bee, but a super genetically modified bee.

If you suspect the bees nest was planted, congratulations. You get it. The game masters rig the game when the action gets slow.


Ok so things are going well.. but how am I going to get over the fact that the two main characters will have to kill one another at some point?...shiat.... oh they'll change the rules!

Did you see the movie? Once it was down to the final two, the rules were changed back to only allowing one winner. The game masters had no intention of ever letter two people win. Looks like you were fooled by it too.

Of course, they did have to change them yet again as a last second desperation measure because the two main characters decided to kill themselves rather than be slaves to the game masters. The games without a winner would be a public relations disaster.


It's a light, interesting read, but kinda dumb at the same time.

Well, you do have to pay attention.
 
2012-07-11 03:28:48 PM

MugzyBrown: I'm 2/3s through the first book. To me it reads like the author made up plot devices as she went along.

Ok she's badly burned.. hmmm... oh yeah sponsors can get her medicine.. but how.. damn... oh a parachute appears out of nowhere with medicine.

She's up a tree so... um... ok... yeah there's a bees nest and not just any kind of bee, but a super genetically modified bee.

Ok so things are going well.. but how am I going to get over the fact that the two main characters will have to kill one another at some point?...shiat.... oh they'll change the rules!


It's a light, interesting read, but kinda dumb at the same time.


Did you miss the the part when Haymitch's entire jobs is to ensure gifts from the sponsors? How else did you think they were going to get them into the area except parachute them in.

Or the part about mockingjays in the first or second chapter? Genetically modified animals were introduced right away did you didn't think that would be important later in the story?

The Hunger Games are based on panem et circenses (notice the name of the capital) if the crowds are rooting for both characters and the game masters force them to kill each other it defeats the purpose of the games and the citizens are pissed. The was the entire point of the ending and why they threatened to commit suicide.
 
2012-07-11 04:18:09 PM

alienated: Silly ? Well, not really. First film seemed a bit rushed, but i liked it.
Having read the books, I agree that the third book should be split into 2 as it has a lot of things that just cannot be condensed into anything less than 4-6 hours .
/my .02


I think everything in the third book could be contained in one 2 to 2.5 hour movie. If anything, I would rather one movie feel a bit rushed then two movies become unbearably slow. Katniss was at her most depressed in the third book, suffering from some serious PTSD. Watching her brood and play the relationship triangle game - and as these are essentially teen focused movies, those will likely be the parts that will be drawn out - for two whole movies would be a little much for me.
 
2012-07-11 05:01:47 PM
oh for the love of god all 3 books combined come in at around the last HP book. Perhaps Collins will let the screen writers flesh out parts of the back story she didn't put in the book.
 
2012-07-11 05:10:05 PM

IanMoone: The last book is good if you like war movies but I don't see them being able to switch gears like that...they played up the romance too much.


To me, the horrible twist that happens near the end of Mockingjay is critical to the romance aspect of the story, because it clearly puts one of her potential lovers out of the running because he crosses a moral line during the war that directly leads to Katniss losing the very thing she's been fighting to protect from page one. Because the terrible thing that happened came from one of this ideas to fight the Capitol, there is no way that she can ever forget the role he played enough for them to have a relationship. It's actually a pretty interesting way to resolve the love triangle, even though it takes the story to some very depressing places.

/It certainly beats one of the romantic rivals falling in love with a newborn baby
 
2012-07-11 06:08:01 PM

quizzical: alienated: Silly ? Well, not really. First film seemed a bit rushed, but i liked it.
Having read the books, I agree that the third book should be split into 2 as it has a lot of things that just cannot be condensed into anything less than 4-6 hours .
/my .02

I think everything in the third book could be contained in one 2 to 2.5 hour movie. If anything, I would rather one movie feel a bit rushed then two movies become unbearably slow. Katniss was at her most depressed in the third book, suffering from some serious PTSD. Watching her brood and play the relationship triangle game - and as these are essentially teen focused movies, those will likely be the parts that will be drawn out - for two whole movies would be a little much for me.


I can see your point of view, but... part of the ptsd plays a big part in the fighting aspects, and I cannot see how they could pull off the siege of d1 and 2, much less the capitol and the ensuing events in under 3 hours and have it make any sense.
An I know- these are for kids but we do have some fairly adult themes.
The theatre is saw games in was at least 75% over 21, based on the drinks service seen.
Maybe i am overthinking it ... who knows ?
 
2012-07-12 02:36:34 AM
The weirdest thing about those books to me, as a guy who mostly reads male-written dreck, is Katniss's attitude to her mother.

Her mother (who never even gets a name through three books) is apparently one of the most heroic and important people in the entire Resistence. She and Prim seem to perform amazing feats of heroism almost on a regular basis.

Yet Katniss mostly dismisses her, seems to barely respect her and almost dislike her. Since the entire story is told from Katniss's POV, we never really do get to find out much about what seems like a truly heroic and amazing woman.

It's just a bit weird to me, and not the sort of thing you'd read from a guy.
 
2012-07-12 05:50:51 AM
I'm waiting for a Haymitch spinoff movie.
 
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