Fark needs a Texas tag.

Elmo Jones: Fark needs a Texas tag.

Have not seen a new tag in a while (Long time). What's up with that Drew? Are the tags now sponsored links?

Give Governor Goodhair another 6 months and I'll bet he manages to get Texas it's own tag if the police chiefs don't do it first.

dang what a deal

gridlocksammy: Elmo Jones: Fark needs a Texas tag.

Have not seen a new tag in a while (Long time). What's up with that Drew? Are the tags now sponsored links?

I live in Floriduh... I'm sickly proud that my home has its own tag- but I'm telling you- Texas and Ohio will always be worse despite what FARK says...

At the very least, I'd love to see a "Best Korea" tag.

CruiserTwelve: "Size makes no difference, it's the amount of fight in the person," said Chief William McManus, San Antonio Police. Fox San Antonio gave the police department a copy of the video, but the Chief says he didn't see it. When we offered to show him, he said he didn't need to see it. "What's on the video is in my understanding is what the officer reported."

Chief: Your officers are very poorly trained if they find it necessary to hit someone to get them to comply. And you're a poor leader if you blindly defend their actions.

I could not, in good conscience, continue to call you out for supporting the bad actions of police without also praising you for not supporting the actions of the chief in this case. Thank you for doing that.

Just so we're clear, though, you also don't support the actions of the officers, right? I know you said that they must be poorly-trained in order to do such a thing, but does poor training excuse their actions or only explain them?

When we offered to show him, he said he didn't need to see it.

Of course not. Plausible deniability, yo. Anyway, a cop would NEVER lie.


namatad: The more tags you add, the more complexity which is required when you submit a link. (this is funny, ironic and sarcastic. Which of the 3 tags should I use? Oh noes!!)

Some of them could be consolidated or removed. Do we really need Strange AND Weird? Cool AND Spiffy? Stupid, Dumbass AND Asinine? Also the Satire tag could go away, I haven't seen it used in a dog's age.

While I admit to a certain level of admiration for a superior that goes to bat for his guys and just doesn't toss them under the proverbial bus to save his own ass, I can't help but feel that his loyalty to his officers is slightly misplaced here.

You know, because of the whole "beating a handcuffed, pregnant woman" thing. I think that might be an acceptable line to cut bait and let that one go without anyone thinking less of you.

yes, we need a tag here... because obviously if you get pregnant and come here....... we'll punch ya

What, are pregnant women prostitutes a protected class now?

Hmmm...minor injuries, no confirmation of actual pregnancy...something don't add up...

/still, they did smack around a five foot nothin', 120 pounder...
//referee says: offsetting fouls. Repeat the down.

doglover: When he started to arrest her, she fought back.

So a hooker gets preggo and suddenly she's allowed to hit cops?

It's all about spin, and this story can be bounced both ways.

If you're getting beat on after you're cuffed, the spin only bounces one way. Yes, people will continue to resist once cuffed, even violently resist, but once someone is restrained their ability to harm someone else goes way, way down. No amount of spin in the world can excuse three cops from beating on a handcuffed suspect.

CruiserTwelve: Chief: Your officers are very poorly trained if they find it necessary to hit someone to get them to comply. And you're a poor leader if you blindly defend their actions.

Kudos as well. I don't think I can ever recall having seen anything but badge licking coming from Cruiser Twelve. Nice to see there is some perspective there after all.


/I can't believe the chief was actually impolitic enough to do that openly. Stonewall any inquiry in private, yes, but men that get to his rank are usually smart enough to at least act like they care for the camera.

untaken_name: CruiserTwelve: "Size makes no difference, it's the amount of fight in the person," said Chief William McManus, San Antonio Police. Fox San Antonio gave the police department a copy of the video, but the Chief says he didn't see it. When we offered to show him, he said he didn't need to see it. "What's on the video is in my understanding is what the officer reported."

Chief: Your officers are very poorly trained if they find it necessary to hit someone to get them to comply. And you're a poor leader if you blindly defend their actions.

I could not, in good conscience, continue to call you out for supporting the bad actions of police without also praising you for not supporting the actions of the chief in this case. Thank you for doing that.

Just so we're clear, though, you also don't support the actions of the officers, right? I know you said that they must be poorly-trained in order to do such a thing, but does poor training excuse their actions or only explain them?

I think it's safe to say that no, he doesn't approve. While a pregnant woman can in fact put up a fight and if armed would be treated as any other suspect in regards to force (exception being not aiming for the belly, of course), any suspect that is already handcuffed is a neutralized threat. There is no reason, ever, to strike an unarmed, subdued, and restrained prisoner. Pregnant or not.

In short, these guys are poorly trained thugs that get their jollies from being abusive bullies, and sadly become the face of every police officer to a lot of people.

Elmo Jones: Fark needs a Texas tag.

There already is one, it says dumbass.

Closed_Minded_Bastage: What, are pregnant women prostitutes a protected class now?

Yes, your mother is protected, worry not child, back to your paint by numbers

Closed_Minded_Bastage: What, are pregnant women prostitutes a protected class now?

I really hope this is a poor trolling attempt, so I'll just say it was a stupid thing to post and leave it at that.

Pregnant biatches be trippin', yo.

bel4sucks: There already is one, it says dumbass.

Well then, I guess we need douchebag tag for the state you live in

biatch shouldn't have resisted.

butt-nuggets: Well then, I guess we need douchebag tag for the state you live in

LOL I live in texas, it's how I know the dumbass tag fits the people from here.

bel4sucks: butt-nuggets: Well then, I guess we need douchebag tag for the state you live in

LOL I live in texas, it's how I know the dumbass tag fits the people from here.

ok then, it all makes sense now

There's no excuse for beating an arrestee with your fists...that's why they give you pepper spray and a taser.

JerkyMeat: The good thing about cops is that they do die.

and so do all of the people that they handcuff

We'd be better off having the military police us. Standardized training. No union. Potentially more accountability.

Well that kid that took the video is going to learn the hard way not to take video of police abusing people and then appear on tv with your real name and an unblurred face.

FTFA: According to a police report, 21-year-old Destiny Rios was arrested for prostitution and resisting arrest. [...] She did look pregnant, she looked about two months pregnant. [...] Rios also told police she used heroin the day before.

I refuse to side with either party.

"She did look pregnant, she looked about two months pregnant,"

I didn't know pregnancy showed that early?

keithdcmoore: At the very least, I'd love to see a "Best Korea" tag.

Now that's change I could believe in!

Am I the only one that can't see if she was actually cuffed or even what is really going on in the video? From what you see there he could be hitting her shoulder to get her to loosen her arm so he could actually cuff her. Wait, I'm sorry, this is the U.S., fark the police, I support the heroin addicted ho resisting arrest no matter what.

Gyrfalcon: /Why isnt part of "taking america back" ending the police corruption and destruction of america??

Because crime.

No. Because FEAR of crime. Most crime stats are at their lowest point in generations.
Its just the insane fear mongering about crime that has hit a fever pitch. There is a lot of money to be made from that fear for the people interested in monetizing it, and a lot of power to seize from the people interested in becoming more powerful. Bad combination.

But she is fighting with the strength of two!

Tooterfish: Closed_Minded_Bastage: What, are pregnant women prostitutes a protected class now?

Yes, your mother is protected, worry not child, back to your paint by numbers

It's good to know Mom is protected, she misses your Saturday afternoon phone calls though.

AKTurkey:
I really hope this is a poor trolling attempt, so I'll just say it was a stupid thing to post and leave it at that.

It worked didn't it? Got two of you.

marfar: Am I the only one that can't see if she was actually cuffed or even what is really going on in the video? From what you see there he could be hitting her shoulder to get her to loosen her arm so he could actually cuff her. Wait, I'm sorry, this is the U.S., fark the police, I support the heroin addicted ho resisting arrest no matter what.

We've learned the heroin addicted hookers are less of a threat to the average person.

fusillade762: "She did look pregnant, she looked about two months pregnant,"

I didn't know pregnancy showed that early?

What do you call a blonde with 2 brain cells?

pregnant

Shadowknight: I think it's safe to say that no, he doesn't approve.

I wish I could be that sure, but this is the same person that defended the officer who shot an unarmed, handcuffed man in the back while he was lying on the ground (The BART shooting in Oakland), so I am just asking for clarification.

krackpipe: We'd be better off having the military police us. Standardized training. No union. Potentially more accountability.

One of the best lines in that regard came from a movie back in 1999, I think, called "The Seige." Had Bruce Willis as a general asked to put New York under marshal law in order to root out terrorists. He warned the politicians that the military is not surgical, and does not have a precise touch. That it's "not a scalpal, it's a broadsword."

I don't think replacing these sociopaths with sociopaths with bigger guns is really the best idea. Standardized training is a good start, but military training is a different beast.

untaken_name: Shadowknight: I think it's safe to say that no, he doesn't approve.

I wish I could be that sure, but this is the same person that defended the officer who shot an unarmed, handcuffed man in the back while he was lying on the ground (The BART shooting in Oakland), so I am just asking for clarification.

Never heard of that, or his defense of it. If true, wow.

fusillade762: "She did look pregnant, she looked about two months pregnant,"

I didn't know pregnancy showed that early?

If it's not their first kid, women do tend to start showing early. The body seems to "know" what it has to do and the muscles loosen and uterus adjusts pretty fast.

It's not universal, obviously, but possible.

If that woman doesn't like how we treat heroine addicted prostitutes that resist arrest in Texas, I'm sure my fellow Texans would be happy to pitch in to buy her bus fare to some other place.

My grandpa told me there are always 3 sides to a dispute between two opposing side. One side's account of what happend, the other side's account of what happened and the actual side. I'm sure that's the case here.

Also, is there anyone that has an alternate link to the video or story included? I'm sitting here commenting on it, but every time I try to look at it the Fox affiliate website tells me that since I'm not in the United States, I can't see the article.

Shadowknight: untaken_name: Shadowknight: I think it's safe to say that no, he doesn't approve.

I wish I could be that sure, but this is the same person that defended the officer who shot an unarmed, handcuffed man in the back while he was lying on the ground (The BART shooting in Oakland), so I am just asking for clarification.

Never heard of that, or his defense of it. If true, wow.

Link

And yeah, it was...a very disturbing series of threads (of which c12 was only a miniscule part of the disturbing stuff, to be fair)

insertsnarkyusername: marfar: Am I the only one that can't see if she was actually cuffed or even what is really going on in the video? From what you see there he could be hitting her shoulder to get her to loosen her arm so he could actually cuff her. Wait, I'm sorry, this is the U.S., fark the police, I support the heroin addicted ho resisting arrest no matter what.

We've learned the heroin addicted hookers are less of a threat to the average person.

I keep all the illegal crap I do at home, the only people that bother me are tweekers and junkies where I live. My only bad encounter with a cop is a dick that gave me a ticket for waiting in a red zone instead of just asking me to move.

doglover: tollerance

I can't tollerate poor speeling.

Did she died?

Gimmick: If that woman doesn't like how we treat heroine addicted prostitutes that resist arrest in Texas, I'm sure my fellow Texans would be happy to pitch in to buy her bus fare to some other place.

You know how I can tell you're trolling? No human being actually thinks like that.

/These cops, Sheriff Joe and so on aren't human beings.

She's a civilian and thus scum: they are cops and thus virtuous. She got what she deserved.

The fact that police are not civilians should tell you everything you need to know about the police in general.

most are good

the minority of bad ones abuse the rules to empower themselves and take out their control issues on the rest of us. Hooray for civilians! [Victims in training]

TDBoedy: She's a civilian and thus scum: they are cops and thus virtuous. She got what she deserved.

She's a heroin addled pregnant prostitute. I'm going to say that yes, she is kind of scummy. Not that it excuses what the police did or implies that she deserved what she got (she didn't), but lets not sanctify her just yet.

namatad: Bigdogdaddy: My grandpa told me there are always 3 sides to a dispute between two opposing side. One side's account of what happend, the other side's account of what happened and the actual side. I'm sure that's the case here.

THIS
on the other hand, the video is quite clear on a couple of things
1) woman was on the ground face down
2) screaming
3) 3 cops were kneeling on her and punching. a lot.

to some degree, does it matter why?
and if someone is farking kneeling on you, are you resisting arrest or thrashing in pain?

"LAY STILL WHILE I PUNCH YOU"
yah, I really dont buy why this shiat is still allowed to go on.
oh wait, cops never lie

he is gonna stand by his men. LOLOLOLOL
doesnt that make it conspiracy after the fact?

Here in oklahoma, if she had managed to kill one of the officers after the first punch, she could plead "life of the child" and walk away.

TDBoedy: The fact that police are not civilians should tell you everything you need to know about the police in general.

The police are not military or uniformed services. They are civilians. The only reason that the police use that term is to differentiate between a regular, non-law enforcement citizen and an LEO.

On another note, it sounds like some cops need to be put on a long bus to a small cell. A clear case of police brutality is indefensible.

BronyMedic: TDBoedy: The fact that police are not civilians should tell you everything you need to know about the police in general.

The police are not military or uniformed services. They are civilians. The only reason that the police use that term is to differentiate between a regular, non-law enforcement citizen and an LEO.

On another note, it sounds like some cops need to be put on a long bus to a small cell. A clear case of police brutality is indefensible.

The term is typically "paramilitary." It is military-like in it's structure and training, but actual application is for and within civilian purposes.

It'd be better if we could what happened the 10 minutes before this person decided to film this. I'm sure that she'll threaten to sue, get some kind of settlement out of the police force which she will then use to buy drugs and kill herself. Either way, it's a win/win situation for society.

tinfoil-hat maggie: tinfoil-hat maggie: Gyrfalcon: tinfoil-hat maggie: Gyrfalcon: Gimmick: If that woman doesn't like how we treat heroine addicted prostitutes that resist arrest in Texas, I'm sure my fellow Texans would be happy to pitch in to buy her bus fare to some other place.

I'm addicted to heroines. Xena Warrior Princess is one of my faves.

Why haven't we hooked up yet? Oh yea the distance thing : )

Hey, I proposed first!

Well I don't see a ring on this finger : )

But you know if you just wanna play Zena warrior princess it's all good : )

Oh I forgot to ask which do you want to be Gabriel or Zena?
: )

You need to return your game or board or interactive video. You got the Hecho en Mexico edition. It's Xena...

I'm just going to go ahead and drop this here... k bai

stiletto2: I'm just going to go ahead and drop this here... k bai

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Informative.

doglover: untaken_name: doglover: tollerance

I can't tollerate poor speeling.

You come type on this phone and tell me it's worth yer time to fix every little typo. I had to turn off auto correct because it doesn't like Japanese words in English letters.

Awww I was just joshin ya. I hoped the "speeling" would indicate that...

Oops, fail. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TQhtzeFp_V0

CruiserTwelve: "Size makes no difference, it's the amount of fight in the person," said Chief William McManus, San Antonio Police. Fox San Antonio gave the police department a copy of the video, but the Chief says he didn't see it. When we offered to show him, he said he didn't need to see it. "What's on the video is in my understanding is what the officer reported."

Chief: Your officers are very poorly trained if they find it necessary to hit someone to get them to comply. And you're a poor leader if you blindly defend their actions.

I agree wholeheartedly with CruiserTwelve... it doesn't happen all the time... but aside from training issues, there's no real reason to strike people in cuffs, you can put them on the ground and get leg shackles if they're non-compliant without a single strike, especially given that they had four officers on her, you can go one guy for each arm/leg and control her just fine. I understand the Chief wants to defend his cops, but if you don't understand the situation, just stfu, go watch the video, then work with the available information. I can't think of many juries that would be too forgiving of these cops, but I can think of a million DAs that are too beholden to departments to actually prosecute such obviously egregious excesses in force. The bigger problem is, when reasonable people are afraid cops will use excessive force, they feel compelled by self-preservation instincts to defend themselves... then people end up dead because of an overarching unaddressed issue of excessive force... it doesn't end up with anyone actually addressing the issue even after such incidents though, so they just become more and more prevalent.

I usually side with the police, and try to give them the benefit of doubt, but in this case, unless she really didn't have cuffs on, (which you can't tell) and 3 officers holding her down, there was no reason to beat her like that. Could have just held her down until she wore herself out. However, if you're not in cuffs, and they are trying to cuff you, and you are fighting, ya...you're prolly gonna get slugged a few times. But yes, seemed a bit excessive in this case.

BronyMedic: TDBoedy: The fact that police are not civilians should tell you everything you need to know about the police in general.

The police are not military or uniformed services. They are civilians. The only reason that the police use that term is to differentiate between a regular, non-law enforcement citizen and an LEO.

On another note, it sounds like some cops need to be put on a long bus to a small cell. A clear case of police brutality is indefensible.

no they are not civilians. they are as you said.. law enforcement officers. they aren't military (many are reserve or national guard though). However the manner in which they conduct themselves, one might think they are a military group.

The perception of many police is that "there are police and there are scum". its G-D batman syndrome. I sympathize witht he frustrations that many of the police have in dealing with unruly civilians and that many times it is difficult to restrain ones' selves from engaging in brutal acts. There are times when it is justified and times when it is not and the officers involved may indeed be ashamed of their actions in hindsight. However they are not paid nor trained for hindsight. Their training and instruction is to know the consequences of their actions. Some times I feel that the consequences of failing to serve and protect (even those they arrest) are not as hard pressed into them as those situations ought to be.

There are laws against charging money for sex for the protection of women like her, and if it takes a handcuffed, 8 strike beating while pregnant to get her to comply, then it's for her own good.

(She's lucky one of the officers didn't coincidentally have a heart attack and die, being in Texas and all...)

marfar: Am I the only one that can't see if she was actually cuffed or even what is really going on in the video? From what you see there he could be hitting her shoulder to get her to loosen her arm so he could actually cuff her. Wait, I'm sorry, this is the U.S., fark the police, I support the heroin addicted ho resisting arrest no matter what.

Now, I'm not a kinesthologist, but isn't hitting someone going to make their muscles tense? Especially repeatedly and rhythmically, as they clench up for the next blow? I'm pretty sure the only way you can beat someone into loosening their muscles is to beat them out of consciousness.

doglover: When he started to arrest her, she fought back.

So a hooker gets preggo and suddenly she's allowed to hit cops?

It's all about spin, and this story can be bounced both ways.

In the video, she's cuffed and on her stomach when the cop starts pounding on her. No, you're not allowed to hit cops, but when you're cuffed and on your stomach the cops aren't allowed to punch you 8 times.

CruiserTwelve: "Size makes no difference, it's the amount of fight in the person," said Chief William McManus, San Antonio Police. Fox San Antonio gave the police department a copy of the video, but the Chief says he didn't see it. When we offered to show him, he said he didn't need to see it. "What's on the video is in my understanding is what the officer reported."

Chief: Your officers are very poorly trained if they find it necessary to hit someone to get them to comply. And you're a poor leader if you blindly defend their actions.

Poor training isn't going to make you feel it is ok to beat a preggo woman after she is in cuffs. It is a lack of moarals and/or respect for the law. Don't knwo if these guys entered the force this farked up or were taught it, but the fact is this proves it is tolerated. They shoudl spend time in jail, and anyon in their chain of command who is ok with what they did should be shiatcanned.

Police are simply the most dominant street gang in your town, and they get to rob you legally. It's hard to imagine a better scam, and they are all in on it.

Every single police department in this nation is corrupt.

namatad: Elmo Jones: Fark needs a Texas tag.

this
Texas is a real close second to floriduh. Alas, so are pretty much the other 48 states.
On the other hand, those farkers in tehas gave us bush 2.0.

Florida doesn't have its own tag for being stupid; it has one for being crazy. For a long time, Florida could proudly claim to be "The Decapitation Capital of the US", and that's why it gets its own tag.

HotWingConspiracy: Police are simply the most dominant street gang in your town, and they get to rob you legally. It's hard to imagine a better scam, and they are all in on it.

Every single police department in this nation is corrupt.

I don't know whether to laugh at you, pity you for the way you live your life in fear of the corrupt Gestapo just waiting to come out of the woodwork to beat you, or morn the loss of IQ points I suffered from reading that.

Closed_Minded_Bastage: What, are pregnant women prostitutes a protected class now?

Are prostitutes not people now? Last I checked, employment didn't change species, gender, civil rights, or for that matter render any gestating offspring invincible.

BronyMedic: HotWingConspiracy: Police are simply the most dominant street gang in your town, and they get to rob you legally. It's hard to imagine a better scam, and they are all in on it.

Every single police department in this nation is corrupt.

I don't know whether to laugh at you, pity you for the way you live your life in fear of the corrupt Gestapo just waiting to come out of the woodwork to beat you, or morn the loss of IQ points I suffered from reading that.

I don't live a life of fear, I'm white and I wear Dockers to work. I'm golden.

And every single police department in this nation is corrupt. They all have shady officers, and the rest all cover for them. You're a goddamn fool if you think otherwise. Or maybe you live in farking Mayberry, I don't know.

And if you really are a brony, your IQ is the least of your worries. "Morn"?

Bigdogdaddy: My grandpa told me there are always 3 sides to a dispute between two opposing side. One side's account of what happend, the other side's account of what happened and the actual side. I'm sure that's the case here.

You rang?

BronyMedic: I don't know whether to laugh at you, pity you for the way you live your life in fear of the corrupt Gestapo just waiting to come out of the woodwork to beat you, or morn the loss of IQ points I suffered from reading that.

Considering that your post was dumber than HotWingConspiracy's... Much, much dumber... If his lowers one's IQ, what does yours do? Remove the entire brain through the nose?

BronyMedic: HotWingConspiracy: Police are simply the most dominant street gang in your town, and they get to rob you legally. It's hard to imagine a better scam, and they are all in on it.

Every single police department in this nation is corrupt.

I don't know whether to laugh at you, pity you for the way you live your life in fear of the corrupt Gestapo just waiting to come out of the woodwork to beat you, or morn the loss of IQ points I suffered from reading that.

You don't have to be the gestapo to be corrupt.

I have a couple friends that were/are cops in NJ, MD, and KS. They don't worry about traffic laws when off duty because they know they won't be ticketed. I am pretty sure that is standard for LEO across the US, and is corruption.

Fluorescent Testicle: BronyMedic: I don't know whether to laugh at you, pity you for the way you live your life in fear of the corrupt Gestapo just waiting to come out of the woodwork to beat you, or morn the loss of IQ points I suffered from reading that.

Considering that your post was dumber than HotWingConspiracy's... Much, much dumber... If his lowers one's IQ, what does yours do? Remove the entire brain through the nose?

So claiming that every police department in the US is corrupt is intelligent?

Wow. Judge really did have it right with Idiocracy. Enjoy your trip to Costco.

Hookers: Just because you're pregnant, doesn't mean you get to be all fighty with the cops. Worried about yo' baby? Then be quiet while they arrest you. Your job is hooking. Their job is arresting you for hooking. Thats how life works.

Cops: You have NO reason to strike someone you have face first on the street. If you and 3 other cops can't get someone whom you've already have down to comply without hitting them, you shouldn't be a cop. The ONLY reason you have to hit someone is if they are activly trying to assualt you. And 'assualt' doesn't mean tap you on the chest or bump into you while walking down the street. It means someone who will cause you actualy bodily harm if you don't stop them.

BronyMedic: So claiming that every police department in the US is corrupt is intelligent?

Maybe not every department, but a significant potion of them are, yes, and certainly most of the ones in the bigger cities. You only disagree because you work with them.

BronyMedic: Wow. Judge really did have it right with Idiocracy. Enjoy your trip to Costco.

Says the guy who masturbates to a children's cartoon.

CruiserTwelve: "Size makes no difference, it's the amount of fight in the person," said Chief William McManus, San Antonio Police. Fox San Antonio gave the police department a copy of the video, but the Chief says he didn't see it. When we offered to show him, he said he didn't need to see it. "What's on the video is in my understanding is what the officer reported."

Chief: Your officers are very poorly trained if they find it necessary to hit someone to get them to comply. And you're a poor leader if you blindly defend their actions.

Well in the officers defense it was two against one....

liam76: BronyMedic: HotWingConspiracy: Police are simply the most dominant street gang in your town, and they get to rob you legally. It's hard to imagine a better scam, and they are all in on it.

Every single police department in this nation is corrupt.

I don't know whether to laugh at you, pity you for the way you live your life in fear of the corrupt Gestapo just waiting to come out of the woodwork to beat you, or morn the loss of IQ points I suffered from reading that.

You don't have to be the gestapo to be corrupt.

I have a couple friends that were/are cops in NJ, MD, and KS. They don't worry about traffic laws when off duty because they know they won't be ticketed. I am pretty sure that is standard for LEO across the US, and is corruption.

People forget these things. Cops like to call it "courtesy", but they are only courteous to a select few. It's open corruption, and it's the least of it.

Fluorescent Testicle: Maybe not every department, but a significant potion of them are, yes, and certainly most of the ones in the bigger cities. You only disagree because you work with them.

Yes. I disagree because I work with them. Because I know enough of them to know that claim is rather hollow, and I challenge you to prove that a "significant portion" of police departments are corrupt.

Fluorescent Testicle: Says the guy who masturbates to a children's cartoon.

Don't deflect your sick, twisted desires onto me. Listen, I understand different strokes for different folks, but, come on now. I know all about your dealings with the fine folks over at Rule 34, and their stash of Teletubby/Rescue Ranger crossover porn.

I'd really hate for a certain photo of you spankin' it to Sonichu to find it's way to CNN, man. Really, it'd be a shame.

Now if this was my first wife who was built like a refrigerator with a head on top I could see it. BUT if you need 3 manly men to arrest one woman NOT on BaTh SaLtS then you guys really need to level up your training,
Chick is more of a man than the cops-period.

Thanks and appreciation to J. Croce

The blueshirts are hardcore!

BronyMedic: Yes. I disagree because I work with them.

So do I now and then.

Because I know enough of them to know that claim is rather hollow,

I bet the ones you know already let some tickets slide today.

BronyMedic: Don't deflect your sick, twisted desires onto me. Listen, I understand different strokes for different folks, but, come on now. I know all about your dealings with the fine folks over at Rule 34, and their stash of Teletubby/Rescue Ranger crossover porn. I'd really hate for a certain photo of you spankin' it to Sonichu to find it's way to CNN, man. Really, it'd be a shame.

Damn, that one struck a nerve, didn't it. Heh. :)

HotWingConspiracy: BronyMedic: Yes. I disagree because I work with them.

So do I now and then.

Because I know enough of them to know that claim is rather hollow,

I bet the ones you know already let some tickets slide today.

Oh yeah. I used my connections just last week in Reno. Shot a man just to watch him die.

BronyMedic: HotWingConspiracy: BronyMedic: Yes. I disagree because I work with them.

So do I now and then.

Because I know enough of them to know that claim is rather hollow,

I bet the ones you know already let some tickets slide today.

Oh yeah. I used my connections just last week in Reno. Shot a man just to watch him die.

When one of your buddies does let you slide on a speeding ticket, you'll think absolutely nothing of it and laugh at the next poor sucker you see getting written up.

"He should have known some totally non-corrupt cops, he could have gotten out of it."

Assholes and cowards continue to beat people restrained. Let alone a pregnant woman, regardless of circumstance.

namatad: Elmo Jones: Fark needs a Texas tag.

this
Texas is a real close second to floriduh. Alas, so are pretty much the other 48 states.
On the other hand, those farkers in tehas gave us bush 2.0.

Which is exactly why we need a Texas tag.

on 1 hand, beating somebody who is already restrained is deplorable
on the other hand, biatches be crazy... pregnant, drug abusing biatches are even crazier.

Philadelphia had a police commissioner who bucked the tradition of automatically believing his officers- he did not last long in office.

CruiserTwelve: "Size makes no difference, it's the amount of fight in the person," said Chief William McManus, San Antonio Police. Fox San Antonio gave the police department a copy of the video, but the Chief says he didn't see it. When we offered to show him, he said he didn't need to see it. "What's on the video is in my understanding is what the officer reported."

Chief: Your officers are very poorly trained if they find it necessary to hit someone to get them to comply. And you're a poor leader if you blindly defend their actions.

Over in one.

A group of non-pussy cops should be able to simply grab and over power a smaller person. When they start throwing blows it's because they are pissed. The rules of being a cop do not include "go ahead and beat the suspect if they piss you off personally".


Once again it's the 99% bad cops making the rest look bad.

Let's just be clear about the reasons why the police "chief" didn't need to see the video:

1. He doesn't want to.

Look, he isn't interested. He's a "Blue Line" kind of guy. This is a behavior wherein lawbreaking is condoned by law enforcement agencies as a reinforcement of an in-group vs out-group dynamic.What it means is that this chief does not serve you, he serves his buddies. If he served you, he'd want to see, want to know whether it looked like cop work or whether it looked like brutality. Even if he was just competent enough to want to do good damage control, he'd want to see it.

2. He has already seen it and is lying to you.

He's competent, and he's seen it, but admitting that he's seen it, or watching your copy, would deny him some rather plausible ignorances and allow him to give you vague platitudes instead of genuine leadership, and he's going to take that option for as long as it's available to him.

3. He's seen hundreds like it and isn't bothered. Hell, he's ecstatic.

He's seen his officers mercilessly beat 100 lb weaklings before, and he thinks that's fantastic. He thinks society is too damn soft, too weak, and he thinks someone has to come by and lead it with an iron fist. People are unable to behave right unless there's a large guy ready to beat them down as soon as they step out of line. He's an Authoritarian, probably also a Social Dominator. He thinks you're a serf, a funny little moron who needs someone like him to guide you and perhaps even rape you. And you're too stupid to see it, so you deserve whatever he gives you.

The sad thing is that there's about a 30 percent chance that all of these things are true. He saw it but didn't observe it, he's lying to you to manipulate public reaction, and he's gotten his position because he's a social dominator and a borderline sociopath. He's propped up by Authoritarian Followers who think his strong reactions against crime are a sign of integrity, when really they're a socially legitimate pathway for the aggression he would have anyway towards somebody. And he likes money a lot.

doglover: Gyrfalcon: Gimmick: If that woman doesn't like how we treat heroine addicted prostitutes that resist arrest in Texas, I'm sure my fellow Texans would be happy to pitch in to buy her bus fare to some other place.

I'm addicted to heroines. Xena Warrior Princess is one of my faves.

I like Twilight Sparkle. She's a bastion of tollerance despite being banished to a town full of the filthy mud ponies.

I like Gem. She's truly outrageous. Truly, truly, truly outrageous.

BronyMedic: So claiming that every police department in the US is corrupt is intelligent?

I guess the Supreme Court, who stated in the Miranda ruling that each law enforcement agency in the country violates at least one person's civil rights every single day, is not intelligent enough for you. You should go tell them that. And yes, breaking the law on a daily basis when your charge is enforcing the law IS corruption.

Madbassist1: The people here endorse it,

Not all of us.

namatad: Elmo Jones: Fark needs a Texas tag.

this
Texas is a real close second to floriduh. Alas, so are pretty much the other 48 states.
On the other hand, those farkers in tehas gave us bush 2.0.

He's from Connecticut or one of those other Yankee places. He just pretends to be Texan because it's got more cachet.

Sorry, I tried to care and get all outragey. After realizing it was just another crackwhore getting her ass beat I couldn't bring myself to do anything but smile and giggle (may I suggest using your nightstick, officer?).

Those cops are the best friend that unborn baby has. They'll get mom arrested and in jail to sober up a bit andthen into some sort of treatment program. The judge may slap a resisting arrest charge on her just so they can keep her locked up and away from dope until the baby is delivered.

My neice is adopted, she's great, getting ready for college now. Her biological mother was a crackwhore who went through this exact scenario.Nobody knows where she is, or how many other crackbabies she's produced, we just hope she's getting her ass kicked from time to time.

HotWingConspiracy: When one of your buddies does let you slide on a speeding ticket, you'll think absolutely nothing of it and laugh at the next poor sucker you see getting written up.

Actually, the jurisdiction I'm in specifically prevents me from doing exactly what you suggest I do, for the exact reason you're so indignant about it. Not only could I lose my positionto, but I could also be in a spot of legal trouble because I tried to use my credentials unethically.

HotWingConspiracy: "He should have known some totally non-corrupt cops, he could have gotten out of it."

And, if you're not driving like a complete idiot, and are actually nice and polite with the cop who DOES Pull you over while not admitting to anything, you're more likely to get off with a warning than getting a ticket. It's wierd that in the numerous times I've been pulled over in a vehicle with no indication of what I do on it, I've only gotten one ticket, and that's because I was driving like a dumbass.

krackpipe: We'd be better off having the military police us. Standardized training. No union. Potentially more accountability.

I pray that is sarcasm.

Flakeloaf: Oh hello there add comment button.

Anyway yeah, I was in LA, off duty, walkin around and I felt nervous around the NOPD guys. I couldn't fathom ordinary people having any interaction with them that didn't involve someone's head meeting pavement.

You mean the department that has confirmed cases of officers organizing a professional hit squad for hire, as well as video of other officers looting luxury goods, in uniform, during Katrina?

Than NOPD?

BronyMedic: HotWingConspiracy: When one of your buddies does let you slide on a speeding ticket, you'll think absolutely nothing of it and laugh at the next poor sucker you see getting written up.

Actually, the jurisdiction I'm in specifically prevents me from doing exactly what you suggest I do, for the exact reason you're so indignant about it. Not only could I lose my positionto, but I could also be in a spot of legal trouble because I tried to use my credentials unethically.

Uh-huh. I'm sure they'll report you.

HotWingConspiracy: "He should have known some totally non-corrupt cops, he could have gotten out of it."

And, if you're not driving like a complete idiot, and are actually nice and polite with the cop who DOES Pull you over while not admitting to anything, you're more likely to get off with a warning than getting a ticket. It's wierd that in the numerous times I've been pulled over in a vehicle with no indication of what I do on it, I've only gotten one ticket, and that's because I was driving like a dumbass.

That wouldn't be an example of corruption. I can see why you were concerned about losing more IQ.

BronyMedic: HotWingConspiracy: When one of your buddies does let you slide on a speeding ticket, you'll think absolutely nothing of it and laugh at the next poor sucker you see getting written up.

Actually, the jurisdiction I'm in specifically prevents me from doing exactly what you suggest I do, for the exact reason you're so indignant about it. Not only could I lose my positionto, but I could also be in a spot of legal trouble because I tried to use my credentials unethically.

How does your jurisidction prevent a cop from letting you slide?

Elmo Jones


Fark needs a Texas tag.

No, fark needs a tag.
You don't really believe epidemic criminal behavior is limited to TX law enforcement?

marfar: Am I the only one that can't see if she was actually cuffed or even what is really going on in the video? From what you see there he could be hitting her shoulder to get her to loosen her arm so he could actually cuff her. Wait, I'm sorry, this is the U.S., fark the police, I support the heroin addicted ho resisting arrest no matter what.

It's actually pretty clear from the video that she is cuffed, in fact, since the video is of such awful quality and is about 120x90 pixels I can tell you exactly where to look to see the handcuffs - count about 45 squares over from the right, and 37 squares down from the top, there is kind of a greyish square on the video, must be handcuffs.

Sorry, you also have to look through the police officer to see it. Just use your imagination.

-There's nothing special or different about those Afgan guys who cheered while a woman was knelt down and machine-gunned in the back. There's a thread of that attitude in every country on Earth. It just needs to right circumstances to show itself...

Flakeloaf: liam76:
Poor training isn't going to make you feel it is ok to beat a preggo woman after she is in cuffs. It is a lack of moarals and/or respect for the law.

Ding.

Sadly, the people who actively seek power are usually the ones who shouldn't have it. That's all about the selection process. If it's run by a bully, you're gonna get more bullies, and once their idiotic ideas have wormed their way into the system good luck getting them out again. Case in point:


So true. My ex-husband used to beat me. He wanted to be a cop. We lived 2 doors downs from a police substation. He wanted to be a cop so bad because he wanted power and control over strangers (as well as me). He is now a school guidance counselor. I can't imagine what he must be saying to those kids.

Her being a prostitute, I can live with that. Prostitution should be legalized and then tax that ass.

Heroine... eh, if someone wants to be a junkie and sticks to the alleyways away from my block, at least they won't be around very long. That unborn child never stood a chance anyway.

But 126 pounds and 5'1?!? That is unforgivable. Because I am assuming that the Mr. Rios, the videographer, is a trained OB/Gyn able to estimate the pregnancy at 2 months, which is maybe a pound extra at most.

"She got a bump..."

ChaoticLimbs: 2. He has already seen it and is lying to you.

He's competent, and he's seen it, but admitting that he's seen it, or watching your copy, would deny him some rather plausible ignorances and allow him to give you vague platitudes instead of genuine leadership, and he's going to take that option for as long as it's available to him.

Of course it's that one. He's seen the video, feels that it's got enough ambiguity that the Feds aren't going to get involved (or the legislature isn't going to get involved to score political points), and then says he hasn't seen it and won't watch it for plausible deniability in case he's wrong. All cops lie. Just take it as a given.

pottie: There's no excuse for beating an arrestee with your fists...that's why they give you pepper spray and a taser.

Or in large metro areas, the yellow pages.

I'm not surprised Texas doesn't care about the woman, but what about the innocent person growing inside her?...

/runs

It made for a confusing article when both the videographer and the bondage whore are named Rios, and are referred to only as such.

And come on, heroin whore or not, 2 months pregnant 'shows' about as much as just eating a Big Mac.

namatad: insertsnarkyusername: Well that kid that took the video is going to learn the hard way not to take video of police abusing people and then appear on tv with your real name and an unblurred face.

Well, the police are looking into this. I am SURE that they will get to the bottom of what happened and not cover anything up. LOL

Seriously, why are the police allowed to investigate their own?
Why isnt the PD office in charge of this?
I would suggest the DA office, but they are in cahoots with cops.
Feds? The feds should be in charge of investigating and charging all other LEOs? Because clearly, no one else is doing it.

sigh

"If you're the Police, who's gonna police the Police?"

"I dunno, Coast Guard?"

The only way to get control of police abuses of power is to stop accepting that they can monitor and evaluate their own behavior and to start sending them to prison for extremely long sentences.

anyone see the idiocy of having the police police the police????!!!!!

Is amused.

A) How did I know this happened in Texas?
B) Nothing will happen to the officers involved.

Joy Hickey?

namatad: Elmo Jones: Fark needs a Texas tag.

this
Texas is a real close second to floriduh. Alas, so are pretty much the other 48 states.
On the other hand, those farkers in tehas gave us bush 2.0.

In our defense, we were trying to send him back to Connecticut. DC isn't that far off.

...wait, it's spelled Connecticut? The word "connect" is right in there?

Fark me.

grunthos

Sorry, I tried to care and get all outragey. After realizing it was just another crackwhore getting her ass beat I couldn't bring myself to do anything but smile and giggle (may I suggest using your nightstick, officer?).

Those cops are the best friend that unborn baby has. They'll get mom arrested and in jail to sober up a bit andthen into some sort of treatment program. The judge may slap a resisting arrest charge on her just so they can keep her locked up and away from dope until the baby is delivered.

My neice is adopted, she's great, getting ready for college now. Her biological mother was a crackwhore who went through this exact scenario.Nobody knows where she is, or how many other crackbabies she's produced, we just hope she's getting her ass kicked from time to time.

This is probably a troll but if not, you are a terrible human being. She has a disease which is usually from low self esteem from being treated poorly and without love by her family. OH Wait!

/I hope your niece gets away from you before you infect her too.

doglover: When he started to arrest her, she fought back.

So a hooker gets preggo and suddenly she's allowed to hit cops?

It's all about spin, and this story can be bounced both ways.

Sure it can be spun both ways, but I saw video of a woman on the ground under 3-4 officers being hit by one of them, and I saw a police chief saying he didn't need to see the video, because it was his understanding that it would only reinforce what he thought he already knew.

So spin that for me so that it looks good for the cops please.

CruiserTwelve: untaken_name: Just so we're clear, though, you also don't support the actions of the officers, right? I know you said that they must be poorly-trained in order to do such a thing, but does poor training excuse their actions or only explain them?

The cops are acting like thugs. From the chief's perspective, they're acting like thugs because he failed to provide them training in how to properly control a person who is actively resisting. When cops are untrained, they'll generally use whatever force they know how to use, and that force is usually excessive for the situation. If the cops in this situation had used proper arrest control techniques, they never would have arrived at the point where she was on the ground being punched.

Don't get me wrong. I'm not defending or excusing the actions of these cops. They should know that beating up people is not the proper way to make arrests. If I found myself punching a pregnant female the first thought I'd have is "This is wrong. There's got to be a better way to do this" then I'd find that better way.

You have a way of even taking the right position while reminding everyone that your moral compass is still out of whack. Seriously. Are you just a poor communicator or is the above really representative of what passes for a thought process for you?

FTFA - "She looked 2 months pregnant."

Really? Because many women don't even start telling people they're preggers until 6-8 weeks along. You're likely not showing a baby bump, and that's a likely time frame for a mis-carriage.

Plus she's 5'1" and 126lbs, so while not obese, she's not rail-thin so her little hooker gut would hide a babby bump.

/we now return to the flaming and trolling posts.
//can't have too much logic in a thread, amiright?!

bel4sucks: Elmo Jones: Fark needs a Texas tag.

There already is one, it says dumbass.

BLAYUM!

malkore: FTFA - "She looked 2 months pregnant."

Really? Because many women don't even start telling people they're preggers until 6-8 weeks along. You're likely not showing a baby bump, and that's a likely time frame for a mis-carriage.

Plus she's 5'1" and 126lbs, so while not obese, she's not rail-thin so her little hooker gut would hide a babby bump.

/we now return to the flaming and trolling posts.
//can't have too much logic in a thread, amiright?!

Nobody seems to think, "hey, the witness is a dumb man who doesn't know when women start to show - he sees someone who is a little pregnant, and guesses wildly "a couple months," not realizing she could be 4 to 8 months depending on genetics, body type, diet, etc."

Also, nobody's commenting that the witness and the girl had the same last name? Even TFA didn't bother using their first names to differentiate them.

CruiserTwelve: untaken_name: Just so we're clear, though, you also don't support the actions of the officers, right? I know you said that they must be poorly-trained in order to do such a thing, but does poor training excuse their actions or only explain them?

The cops are acting like thugs. From the chief's perspective, they're acting like thugs because he failed to provide them training in how to properly control a person who is actively resisting. When cops are untrained, they'll generally use whatever force they know how to use, and that force is usually excessive for the situation. If the cops in this situation had used proper arrest control techniques, they never would have arrived at the point where she was on the ground being punched.

Don't get me wrong. I'm not defending or excusing the actions of these cops. They should know that beating up people is not the proper way to make arrests. If I found myself punching a pregnant female the first thought I'd have is "This is wrong. There's got to be a better way to do this" then I'd find that better way.

Thank you for your response. Kudos to you, sir. If I'm not mistaken, I believe this is the first thread in which I've ever not only agreed with you, but actually applauded your viewpoint. I hope it's not the last one.

snocone: If Chuck Norris could handle her w/ 2 fingers, and ya know he could 'cause you and I certainly could, what is this chit?
Untrained? More like unbrianed.


To be fair, I pushed him on the "training" thing and he did state that the cops in question were in the wrong as well as being untrained.