Wanna try that sentence again, Crazy?

Sununu pointed out to Andrea Mitchell that 0bama is a bigger outsourcer

Sununu: No. When you've sent $500 million to Fisker and it goes to Finland immediately. When you send the solar money and it goes to Mexico. When you send the turbine money and it goes to Denmark. And we can go on all day. There is $29 billion worth of purchases that came out of this administration, outsourced jobs to foreign countries.

Mitchell's response? ummmmm....ummmmmm...commercial break time

Inside Subby's mind:

Mentat: I'm convinced.

Me too. Thanks to this link, I'm now voting straight-ticket Republican this fall!

Weaver95: I get the impression that the GOP is really not able to handle a frank and open discussion about Romney's record as a 'business leader'.

They absolutely aren't. All the Romney campaign has been able to do is say "Why are you trying to distract from Obama's record?"

To which the response is, "Okay, go."

To which the response is, "..."

To which the response is, "Are you done? Because I'd like to point out some more how Romney is emblematic of everything wrong with modern business practices."

Weaver95: A lie is a lie is a lie.

I get the impression that the GOP is really not able to handle a frank and open discussion about Romney's record as a 'business leader'. the fact is that Romney outsourced. the fact is that Romney destroyed companies. the fact is that Romney is (or at least was) a 'vulture capitalist'. those are facts. that's reality.

Now I get that these facts are damaging to Romney's campaign. I understand that the job of Romney's people is to mitigate that damage as much as possible. But...facts are facts. and there isn't much you can do about their existence.

And as Sununu pointed out, 0bama has done far more than Romney did in outsourcing.

Where is your citation for how much Romney has outsourced? (hint, the Washington Ombudsman said the WashPo article about Romney was wrong).

How much has Immelt outsourced? Remember, he is 0bama's lead advisor on fixing the US economy.

Weaver95: But...facts are facts. and there isn't much you can do about their existence.

Okay, what are the facts?
How many jobs did Romney outsource?
(difficulty: he had to actually be responsible for outsourcing decision, not just an investor)
Citation?

When 0bama gave $500M to Fisker, how many jobs did that create overseas vs. in the US? Isn't that outsourcing?

Oh but wait, that is tax payer money, not private money that Romney used.

vartian: tenpoundsofcheese:

And as Sununu pointed out, 0bama has done far more than Romney did in outsourcing.

I'm sorry, my head is reeling from someone who expects to be treated seriously while quoting Sununu as an authority on anything and using a carefully placed zero instead of a 'O' at the beginning of the name of our sitting president.

Sununu cites facts. Too bad you can't deal with them.

As expected all of the xenophobes, racists and nationalists show up to an outsourcing thread because they have a problem with sharing the wealth of this country with those of other races or the less fortunate.

Share the wealth.
Get over it.

PreMortem: tenpoundsofcheese: Weaver95: But...facts are facts. and there isn't much you can do about their existence.

Okay, what are the facts?
How many jobs did Romney outsource?
(difficulty: he had to actually be responsible for outsourcing decision, not just an investor)
Citation?

When 0bama gave $500M to Fisker, how many jobs did that create overseas vs. in the US? Isn't that outsourcing?

Oh but wait, that is tax payer money, not private money that Romney used.

"Henrik Fisker said the U.S. money has been spent on engineering and design work that stayed in the U.S., not on the 500 manufacturing jobs that went to a rural Finnish firm, Valmet Automotive."

Keep farking that chicken

the chicken was farked by Fisker already:


isker Automotive, the electric car company that received $528 million in Energy Department loan guarantees, announced layoffs at its Delaware production facility on Monday.
At the time, union workers were promised the chance to fill many of the 2,000 factory jobs producing the plug-in electric sedan. It was unclear Monday how many of those positions had ever been filled.

Of course they said it would be for US jobs, and you believed them? How cute.

Weaver95: tenpoundsofcheese: Weaver95: But...facts are facts. and there isn't much you can do about their existence.

Okay, what are the facts?
How many jobs did Romney outsource?
(difficulty: he had to actually be responsible for outsourcing decision, not just an investor)
Citation?

When 0bama gave $500M to Fisker, how many jobs did that create overseas vs. in the US? Isn't that outsourcing?

Oh but wait, that is tax payer money, not private money that Romney used.

you can't even spell Obama's name right...how am I supposed to believe that you are really willing to discuss this subject in a fair and even manner?

So you still don't have a citation for how many jobs Romney outsourced? I didn't think you would.

I never judged whether people were willing to discuss the Speaker in a fair and even manner when they referred to Boner instead of Boehner. Why are you so judgemental?

Weaver95: tenpoundsofcheese: As expected all of the xenophobes, racists and nationalists show up to an outsourcing thread because they have a problem with sharing the wealth of this country with those of other races or the less fortunate.

Share the wealth.
Get over it.

well...no. see, the problem I have with Romney's business model is that he buys up companies, guts them like a fish, and then sells off the half rotted remains for whatever he can get.

weird that for that type of business model that Bain can raise over $20B in capital and have superior returns. Odd that all those poor pensions and teacher unions would benefi from a model that did nothing but destroy companies
.then moves on to the next company and repeated the process.

Just how many companies did Bain capital destroy?

If you don't know why are you saying that it was their business model?

even their success stories have some less than savory aspects.
right, because every other business out there never had an less than savory aspects (looking at you Presidential advisor Immelt)

tenpoundsofcheese: Why are you so judgemental?

Nothing on TV. And you're a pot.

lysdexic: tenpoundsofcheese: Why are you so judgemental?

Nothing on TV. And you're a pot.

forget to change tabs again?
at least put a little bit of effort in.

tenpoundsofcheese: lysdexic: tenpoundsofcheese: Why are you so judgemental?

Nothing on TV. And you're a pot.

forget to change tabs again?
at least put a little bit of effort in.

You're not worth it, sport.

All this outsorcery will have grave consequences.

Well, either that or it's just the weekly guanoinsane desperate attempt at a tangent to distract people from the fact that Mitt Romney is- at best- a cardboard cutout candidate.

The real crusher is still to come though: if Obama is really every bit as bad as the GOP claims, then what's that say for the guy who can't win against him in term 2? The same man who was "top of the crop" of the GOP caucus?

The real question I think should be asked here- particularly in light of the GOP's much-vaunted reverence for the 'spirit of competition'- is why is Mitt Romney the best that the GOP can do?

I really wasn't that attached to Obama after term 1. You didn't have to try very hard GOP. Not very hard at all. I swear you just get more and more disappointing each year.

Weaver95: A lie is a lie is a lie.

I get the impression that the GOP is really not able to handle a frank and open discussion about Romney's record as a 'business leader'. the fact is that Romney outsourced. the fact is that Romney destroyed companies. the fact is that Romney is (or at least was) a 'vulture capitalist'. those are facts. that's reality.

Now I get that these facts are damaging to Romney's campaign. I understand that the job of Romney's people is to mitigate that damage as much as possible. But...facts are facts. and there isn't much you can do about their existence.

Facts are annoying things.

I just added fromage to my ignore list today, and now I'm literally reading this thread with a huge grin on my face. This is awesome.

Back on topic.... up next for Breitbart: The difference between that old lady calling Obama a Muslim in front of McCain and the media/Obama led dog-on-the-roof attacks is that the old lady was telling the truth and Obama and the media are lying.

DeltaPunch: I just added fromage to my ignore list today, and now I'm literally reading this thread with a huge grin on my face. This is awesome.

That's two cheese-related handles you've put on ignore today and felt the need to share with us.

Empty promises, bro. Empty promises.

bloobeary: Of those who served in Kerry's boat crew, only Stephen Gardner joined SBVT.[24] He was not present on any of the occasions when Kerry won his medals, including his Purple Hearts. Gardner appeared in two of the group's television advertisements.

All other living members of Kerry's crew supported his presidential bid, and some frequently campaigned with him as his self-described "band of brothers". Kerry crew members have disputed some of SBVT's various allegations, calling them "totally false" (Drew Whitlow), "garbage" (Gene Thorson), and "a pack of lies" (Del Sandusky).

And yet the "liberal" media only reports the lies. Mitt Romney just keeps lying, and no one cares.

No one cares about the blatant lies anymore.

James F. Campbell: And yet the "liberal" media only reports the lies. Mitt Romney just keeps lying, and no one cares.

No one cares about the blatant lies anymore.

What the media wants is a horse race. A right-down-to-the-wire, photo finish horse race, and if that means they have to cripple the frontrunner, and handicap the also-ran in order to get them both to hit the finish line at the same time, then so be it.

So, Obama gets called out for petty, idiotic reasons.

Romney gets a pass on being an absolute cretin.

And the horse race goes on.

Weaver95: because it bothers me that you have so little respect for the office of the President. you can at least spell the man's name correctly. distorting it like that is petty and childish and leads me to believe that you're just trolling.

Using Sununu as a citation didn't tip you off?

bloobeary: What the media wants is a horse race. A right-down-to-the-wire, photo finish horse race, and if that means they have to cripple the frontrunner, and handicap the also-ran in order to get them both to hit the finish line at the same time, then so be it.

And you know what? They're steadily losing viewers because of it. CNN has cratered this year.

Ahh, yes, another thoroughly sensible Breitbart article that totally won't get a -1 from me.

*clicks voting button*

Whoops! Butterfingers! I guess I must've voted downwards instead of upwards.

With such a trustworthy site as this and such well thought-out articles like these, I don't imagine that THAT will happen again.

Toshiro Mifune's Letter Opener: Ahh, yes, another thoroughly sensible Breitbart article that totally won't get a -1 from me.

*clicks voting button*

Whoops! Butterfingers! I guess I must've voted downwards instead of upwards.

With such a trustworthy site as this and such well thought-out articles like these, I don't imagine that THAT will happen again.

I'm definitely not telling other people to do so, but I may or may not have also voted this thing in the downward direction