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2012-07-10 04:17:37 PM  
The strict gun laws in Chicago are working out so well. [For the criminals]
 
2012-07-10 04:17:52 PM  
I've got an idea...

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2012-07-10 04:18:03 PM  
They are Attractive and Successful Urban African American Entrepreneurs, amirite???

.
 
2012-07-10 04:18:24 PM  
He's going to run for president some day.
 
2012-07-10 04:18:31 PM  
Every week it's a new tactic. All failed in the past, all will fail in the future. The people of Chicago simply will not have any part of their plans for the right to self population control farked with.
 
2012-07-10 04:22:01 PM  

ideamaster: The strict gun laws in Chicago are working out so well. [For the criminals]


this
 
2012-07-10 04:22:54 PM  
Avon: [to Stringer] Sunday truce been there as long as the game itself ..... I mean, you can do some shiat and be like what the fark, but hey, never on no Sunday.
 
2012-07-10 04:23:00 PM  
Makes you miss Daley doesn't it?
/as to which one either will do.
 
2012-07-10 04:23:14 PM  

ChaosStar: ideamaster: The strict gun laws in Chicago are working out so well. [For the criminals]

this



Thirded.
 
2012-07-10 04:24:41 PM  
Kind of makes sense to me.

Essentially, "Hey, we're not giving up on trying to stop the violence, but it would be much appreciated if you gangbangers could simply kill one another rather than innocent citizens who have nothing to do with your criminal activities or 'beefs.'"

Makes the innocent citizens feel a little better, I suppose. Doubt it has any impact on the gangs, and they tend to avoid killing citizens anyway already, but it's a decent thought.

Think Omar from The Wire, won't kill people who aren't "playing the game."
 
2012-07-10 04:24:57 PM  
Welcome to Obama's America!
 
2012-07-10 04:25:08 PM  

ChipNASA: They are Attractive and Successful Urban African American Entrepreneurs, amirite???

.


I hope they don't let this jackass get too close to the aliens. They might think we're all this stupid.
 
2012-07-10 04:25:13 PM  
Ol' Ray knew how to handle 'em.
www.wearysloth.com
/breaks my heart to see a boy that young goin' bad
 
2012-07-10 04:25:52 PM  

Evil Mackerel: Makes you miss Daley doesn't it?
/as to which one either will do.


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/Yes, I realize his name is spelled "Daly".
 
2012-07-10 04:26:02 PM  
For anyone wanting some further reading on why gang violence in Chicago is so much fun, I would suggest reading "Gang Leader for a Day" by Sudhir Venkatesh.

It is by no means comprehensive, but it does provide an interesting view on that lifestyle.
 
2012-07-10 04:27:04 PM  
I know a lot of things have changed and a lot of bad stuff has happened on a global level that is probably the cause of this increase in crime rate and whatnot, but it also seems that Chicago has gone into the shiatter since Daley left office.
 
2012-07-10 04:27:48 PM  

Evil Mackerel: Makes you miss Daley doesn't it?
/as to which one either will do.


because the strong-arm tactics, gestapo crap and "old-boys club"/mafia politics in no way contributed to Chicago's issues today.
 
2012-07-10 04:28:17 PM  

DROxINxTHExWIND: I hope they don't let this jackass get too close to the aliens. They might think we're all this stupid.


but he's correct, right?

 
2012-07-10 04:28:22 PM  

jdamaral: Essentially, "Hey, we're not giving up on trying to stop the violence, but it would be much appreciated if you gangbangers could simply kill one another rather than innocent citizens who have nothing to do with your criminal activities or 'beefs.'"


There was a letter to the editor of the Chicago Tribune a few days back suggesting the solution is to have the police offer free target practice and aiming lessons for all gangbangers. That way, not only would they stop killing the innocents but they'd start killing each other more often too.
 
2012-07-10 04:28:28 PM  

PillsHere: I know a lot of things have changed and a lot of bad stuff has happened on a global level that is probably the cause of this increase in crime rate and whatnot, but it also seems that Chicago has gone into the shiatter since Daley left office.


It was in the shiatter when he was in office.
 
2012-07-10 04:28:47 PM  
Man's got to have a code.

Or is that only in Baltimore?
 
2012-07-10 04:28:52 PM  
Why are we even IN Chicago?
Lets cut our losses and get out, while we still can.
 
2012-07-10 04:29:00 PM  
If only there were a former Chicago "community organizer" who's in a position of power......
 
2012-07-10 04:29:25 PM  

PillsHere: also seems that Chicago has gone into the shiatter since Daley left office.


You think it was that recent. ???

You know how long it takes to develop the level of corruption that makes that town look like an outhouse upside down?
You bet go back to when they were laying out the original town lines.
 
2012-07-10 04:29:26 PM  

The_Sponge: ChaosStar: ideamaster: The strict gun laws in Chicago are working out so well. [For the criminals]

this


Thirded.


Fourthed. Well armed law abiding citizens standing up for themselves are one of the best ways to combat crime.

\Cop
 
2012-07-10 04:30:21 PM  
What they need to do is open a huge arena as a "Free Murder Zone" and allow warring gangs to go there to settle their beefs without the danger of innocents being caught in the crossfire or any criminal prosecution. There guys will NEVER stop killing each other, so lets let them while protecting innocent civilians from their stupidity and savagery. Sort of like a modern day Thunderdome, but groups are allowed to "Compete".

Plus, the bulletproof glass covered luxury boxes can help fill the states coffers, while the gangbangers fill the states coffins.
 
2012-07-10 04:34:39 PM  

Voiceofreason01: Evil Mackerel: Makes you miss Daley doesn't it?
/as to which one either will do.

because the strong-arm tactics, gestapo crap and "old-boys club"/mafia politics in no way contributed to Chicago's issues today.


Funny, hes not republican.
 
2012-07-10 04:38:27 PM  

DROxINxTHExWIND: ChipNASA: They are Attractive and Successful Urban African American Entrepreneurs, amirite???

I hope they don't let this jackass get too close to the aliens. They might think we're all this stupid.




Problem is he has a point and you know it. Black on black murders are happening at an INSANE rate, mostly due to glorifying gang culture. Yes, there are a few asian gangs that do the same. Yes, its not ALL blacks, but it is a true stereotype, whither you want to admit it or not.

I live in a capital city. Just about every week there is a murder with a gun and it's almost always the same: Black on black, gang related. When the police try to crack down on suspected gang members, the civil rights activists cry racial profiling, racism and discrimination. Meanwhile young black men die by the hand of other young black men on a regular basis.

There is NOTHING the white/asian/other community can do to stop this. It MUST be addressed by the black community. They are killing their own in numbers that make the KKK smile from ear to ear.


Jesus Wept.
 
2012-07-10 04:38:57 PM  

ChipNASA: They are Attractive and Successful Urban African American Entrepreneurs, amirite???

.


Just a bunch of black white trash. They even have the sister farking down to a tee. That happens when you don't know who your father is or who in the neighborhood he might have farked 20 years ago.
 
2012-07-10 04:39:01 PM  
Well, since the Supremes have taken away one of the mayor's options in dealing with crime (prosecuting arms dealers and suing towns that let arms dealers flood the city with illegal guns) he has to resort to less logical means.
 
2012-07-10 04:39:05 PM  
Here's an idea...got this one while watching that Bait Car show - A person is caught committing a crime, say a violent crime or theft. BAM! Gun shot to the head, that person's life is over.

It will thin out the population and deter crimes from being committed.

We're getting a bunch of these Chi-town low life types coming up here to smaller cities in Wisconsin where the drug business is booming. The white trash members of our communities quickly become clients one way or another. Makes me sick.
 
2012-07-10 04:39:08 PM  

Evil Mackerel: Voiceofreason01: Evil Mackerel: Makes you miss Daley doesn't it?
/as to which one either will do.

because the strong-arm tactics, gestapo crap and "old-boys club"/mafia politics in no way contributed to Chicago's issues today.

Funny, hes not republican.


Say what you want, but there's a reason decades-long Democrat strongholds like Detroit and Chicago turn into cesspools. Their policies don't work. God bless some of them for their good intentions, but the policies just don't work. Driving away business, taking more money out of the pockets of consumers, inflating bureaucracies and administrations with corruption and graft while promoting racial and class strife and disarming the populace just is not they way to make a city thrive.
 
2012-07-10 04:39:22 PM  

vegasj: DROxINxTHExWIND: I hope they don't let this jackass get too close to the aliens. They might think we're all this stupid.

but he's correct, right?


About what?
 
2012-07-10 04:39:38 PM  

FarkinHostile: Yes, there are a few asian gangs that do the same.



Hopefully they can shoot better than they can drive.

*Ducks*
 
2012-07-10 04:39:59 PM  

PillsHere: I know a lot of things have changed and a lot of bad stuff has happened on a global level that is probably the cause of this increase in crime rate and whatnot, but it also seems that Chicago has gone into the shiatter since Daley left office.


The crime rate in most of the United States is quite low despite the recent economic catastrophe, so you can't really blame global issues for this even a little.
 
2012-07-10 04:40:56 PM  
You know who would clean up Chicago?

Ditka.
 
2012-07-10 04:41:17 PM  

PillsHere: I know a lot of things have changed and a lot of bad stuff has happened on a global level that is probably the cause of this increase in crime rate and whatnot, but it also seems that Chicago has gone into the shiatter since Daley left office


Part of the major budget problems is that Daley tried to paper it over by selling the Chicago Skyway and the rights to parking meters in the city for like the next 100 years to a private company. Rahm's stuck making all the tough decisions and tough stances Daley wouldn't while he was too busy trying to get the Olympics none of the citizens of the city wanted because we knew we'd get stuck with the bill for cost overruns that we clearly couldn't afford.

The reason for the higher murder rate this year is really easy though: it's been abnormally warm all year.
 
2012-07-10 04:41:19 PM  
Not News: Murder rate is high in Chicago. News: Mayor addresses the issue. Fark: By appealing to the gangbangers' value system

What's next offering them hugs?

They just need to spend more on their gun buy-backs?

lennavan: jdamaral: Essentially, "Hey, we're not giving up on trying to stop the violence, but it would be much appreciated if you gangbangers could simply kill one another rather than innocent citizens who have nothing to do with your criminal activities or 'beefs.'"

There was a letter to the editor of the Chicago Tribune a few days back suggesting the solution is to have the police offer free target practice and aiming lessons for all gangbangers. That way, not only would they stop killing the innocents but they'd start killing each other more often too.


If I were a Chicago cop I wouldn't want to be giving pointers to the arseholes that might later on be shooting at me.
 
2012-07-10 04:42:30 PM  

Callous: If I were a Chicago cop I wouldn't want to be giving pointers to the arseholes that might later on be shooting at me.



Seriously....I want to know what kind of an idiot sent that letter to the editor.
 
2012-07-10 04:42:35 PM  

PillsHere: I know a lot of things have changed and a lot of bad stuff has happened on a global level that is probably the cause of this increase in crime rate and whatnot, but it also seems that Chicago has gone into the shiatter since Daley left office.


The murder rate started climbing again while Daley was in office. The problem was the recession. It hit Chicago very hard and put a lot of work. And some of those people that were out of work turned to drug dealing, robbing drug dealers and other crimes to make ends meet.
 
2012-07-10 04:44:10 PM  
i don't have the answers. but if Uncle Sam unleashed a few hundred combat ready troops into Dead Mans Land with immunity you'd see the bodies stacked high as firewood in a week. and not many would stand around mourning the loss, either. sooner or later you have to cut your losses and bring it to zero. obviously what we've done in the past is not working. time to turn to a fresh blank page.

or let scumbags keep running amuck, killing little girls who are selling candy bars at the end of their driveway. notice this does not happen to the children of senators, congressmen or wealthy folks.
 
2012-07-10 04:44:16 PM  

vudukungfu: PillsHere: also seems that Chicago has gone into the shiatter since Daley left office.

You think it was that recent. ???

You know how long it takes to develop the level of corruption that makes that town look like an outhouse upside down?
You bet go back to when they were laying out the original town lines.


I moved from Chicago in 2005, but I always thought it was a nice city when I lived there and I thought while maybe corrupt, Daley did a good job. He turned the city around from being the dumpy place it was in the 80's to being a re-vitalized hip and clean city. Just look at the Magnificent Mile, Grant Park/Millenium Park, the whole downtown area, etc. Now I don't know much about what's happened since I moved, but I know that taxes and unemployment have gone up just like everywhere else in the country so that's not really a surprise. However, the crime increase seems relatively recent.
 
2012-07-10 04:44:39 PM  

GQueue: The reason for the higher murder rate this year is really easy though: it's been abnormally warm all year


Oh, and it's barely rained too. People aren't outside shooting each other when it's pouring or when it's 10 degrees out, because it farking sucks being outside when the weather is like that.
 
2012-07-10 04:45:52 PM  
I got news for you. They have no morals, no sense of propriety, no decency, just a flat overwhelming idea of "macho gangsta" and a desire for easy money through robbery, extortion, drugs, and murder. You will NEVER be able to appeal to their sense of values, nor make them think "hey..we are hurting not only the african-american image, but innocent people are dying." They don't care. They are pussy gang bangers who's only strength lies in their numbers. That is why you don't see a "one on one" fight, it's 15 gang bangers jumping one guy. And you wont see them popping off carefully aimed shots at their rivals, they are gonna hose down the whole street like retards while they run by in their cars. Because they are too pussy to face down their enemies man to man. So...they spray and pray, and don't give a shiat about collateral damage and innocent victims. These are people with limited if no High School, or even grade school, who's vocabulary generally consists of "yo biatch, and motherfarker". To expect anything resembling any kind of social value or empathy for anyone but themselves is like wishing for a lottery win. You can wish in one hand and shiat in the other, but in the end, you end up with a handful of shiat. They care about their easy money, pussy, and cars, and their street cred, and nothing else.

So to all the gang bangers out there, you are all pussies who are nothing if not in a group of your other loser ilk, you are doomed to die young with a level of education of your average potato, and all you have in your sad pathetic lives are bloody drug money and violence, stupid gang signs that impress nobody, and a false sense of accomplishment. Well done, and way to represent, because as we all know..it's all about "how we look", not about what we've actually done with our lives.
 
2012-07-10 04:46:17 PM  

The_Sponge: You know who would clean up Chicago?

Ditka.


Mini-Ditka?
 
2012-07-10 04:46:29 PM  

Evil Mackerel: Funny, hes not republican.


Richard J Daley was basically a democrat version of Nixon, except he stayed close enough to his local power base in Chicago to avoid getting indicted.
 
2012-07-10 04:46:54 PM  
I'm pretty sure there has been Chicago gang violence for at least 40 years. I still blame Fartbongo's time machine.

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DYNOMITE!

Thank God the dad opened McDowell's burger emporium and finally got off the dole
 
2012-07-10 04:47:59 PM  

The_Sponge: You know who would clean up Chicago?

Ditka.


I do have a Ditka for govenor bumper sticker.
 
2012-07-10 04:48:44 PM  

PillsHere: vudukungfu: PillsHere: also seems that Chicago has gone into the shiatter since Daley left office.

You think it was that recent. ???

You know how long it takes to develop the level of corruption that makes that town look like an outhouse upside down?
You bet go back to when they were laying out the original town lines.

I moved from Chicago in 2005, but I always thought it was a nice city when I lived there and I thought while maybe corrupt, Daley did a good job. He turned the city around from being the dumpy place it was in the 80's to being a re-vitalized hip and clean city. Just look at the Magnificent Mile, Grant Park/Millenium Park, the whole downtown area, etc. Now I don't know much about what's happened since I moved, but I know that taxes and unemployment have gone up just like everywhere else in the country so that's not really a surprise. However, the crime increase seems relatively recent.


Yeah, but you're not getting shot on North Michigan Ave. I hear this all the time about how X city is so dangerous because people who sell drugs get shot on a corner than I'll never go to. Wake me when it's Guadalajara and the shiat comes to you.

So anyway, I wonder what is happening with the gangs right now. Did someone get weak and another gang choose this time to steal their territory? Was a gang destablilized? Is there a power vacuum?
 
2012-07-10 04:49:13 PM  

GQueue: PillsHere: I know a lot of things have changed and a lot of bad stuff has happened on a global level that is probably the cause of this increase in crime rate and whatnot, but it also seems that Chicago has gone into the shiatter since Daley left office

Part of the major budget problems is that Daley tried to paper it over by selling the Chicago Skyway and the rights to parking meters in the city for like the next 100 years to a private company. Rahm's stuck making all the tough decisions and tough stances Daley wouldn't while he was too busy trying to get the Olympics none of the citizens of the city wanted because we knew we'd get stuck with the bill for cost overruns that we clearly couldn't afford.

The reason for the higher murder rate this year is really easy though: it's been abnormally warm all year.


Ooh yah, the parking meter thing happened after I moved, but that did severely piss me off. I kind of forgot about that. Every time I go back to visit my parents it disgusts me to see how much the meters have increased. There used to be meters near my apartment building downtown that were like 25 cents for 5 minutes which I remember thinking was extreme, but last I saw they were something ridiculous like $5 a minute or something.
 
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