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(AZCentral)   Not to be outdone by Governor Hair, Governor Crypt Keeper is considering opting out of Medicare expansion   (azcentral.com) divider line 73
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2012-07-10 02:16:09 PM
Translation:

Dear Poor,

Please die. Looking at you makes me feel uncomfortable.

Thanks.

GOP
 
2012-07-10 02:38:47 PM
Well, it's not like she's ever going to die

/not without a stake and a mallet being involved, anyway
 
2012-07-10 02:53:45 PM

MaudlinMutantMollusk: Well, it's not like she's ever going to die

/not without a stake and a mallet being involved, anyway


Screw Obama's birth certificate. Sheriff Joe should send a posse to find Jan Brewer's phylactery.
 
2012-07-10 02:59:57 PM

Bloody William: MaudlinMutantMollusk: Well, it's not like she's ever going to die

/not without a stake and a mallet being involved, anyway

Screw Obama's birth certificate. Sheriff Joe should send a posse to find Jan Brewer's phylactery.


I think he's one of her undead minions

/Arpaio is Spanish for Renfield is my guess
 
vpb [TotalFark]
2012-07-10 03:08:46 PM
I wouldn't mind seeing a Federal exchange for all the red states. It would bring us that much closer to a single payer system. I don't think it will happen though.
 
2012-07-10 03:17:49 PM
Under the law, the federal government will pick up 100 percent of the cost of expansion for three years, 95 percent for the two years that follow and 90 percent of the costs thereafter. The expansion will allow the states to provide the benefit to many more low income Americans without taxing their state budgets at all for three years and then only slightly in the years that follow.

Currently, the federal government picks up the tab for about 55 percent of the costs of a state Medicaid program.


Truly a terrible thing. :rollseyes:

Grandstanding assholes who will take it once the election is over.
 
2012-07-10 03:59:25 PM
Just secede already.
 
2012-07-10 04:00:31 PM
A nuestras amigos y amigas en Mexico: ¿Te acuerdas de cuando nos dijo que le daría vuelta en Texas? ¿Cómo le gustaría un estado de bonificación?
 
2012-07-10 04:01:44 PM
It's like the term "public servant" has been switched for "oogahboogahblaggahwaggablearrgghhh."
 
2012-07-10 04:02:08 PM

Nadie_AZ: Grandstanding assholes who will take it once the election is over.


Now where did you get that crazy idea?

lynnrockets.files.wordpress.com
 
2012-07-10 04:03:04 PM
Dear South, please fark off because we're paying for it and frankly we don't want massive immigration to our states.....yall are backward products of your broken educational systems.

/Exept the Southerners on fark...your cool.
 
2012-07-10 04:03:53 PM
*you're

/always a grammar or spelling mistake when I trash talk the South.....karma
 
2012-07-10 04:03:57 PM
Crypt Keeper? I had her at Skeletor.

images.wikia.com
www.csmonitor.com
 
2012-07-10 04:04:04 PM
It's not yet over for Texas. Although the ACA does not specifically provide a procedure to bypass the gov, the state legislature can still create and fund the expansion...if enough people pressure the idiots and don't vote for more tea party morons in November. If not, Texas' federal tax dollars will go to another state. That'll show 'em.
 
2012-07-10 04:05:40 PM
Brewer and the rest of these red state blow hards are only "considering opting out" until the day after the election. They are actually claiming they are going to reject a 100% (and later 90%) subsidy to cover low income medicaid recipients? Suuuuure they are.

No matter who wins, the very minute the results are in the motivation to shoot themselves in the face will evaporate. At that point they are going to slam it into reverse and not only accept the medicaid expansion, they will be taking credit for it. You will see front page pics of them posing with their big novelty checks, bragging how they "stuck it to Obama and the rest of those Washington big government types" and "fought the good fight for the citizens of [state] to get the coverage they deserve". Every last one of them.

Just watch.
 
2012-07-10 04:08:01 PM

Soup4Bonnie: Nadie_AZ: Grandstanding assholes who will take it once the election is over.

Now where did you get that crazy idea?

[lynnrockets.files.wordpress.com image 450x408]


Yes. Exactly that.
 
2012-07-10 04:11:04 PM
What would it take for the Executive to play chicken with them on this? Is it possible they could win a political battle over it?

I would just love to see the Obama Administration go "Okay, well then we'll save you the trouble of sending it back by not bothering to send the money in the first place."

I mean really, every once in a while you've got to call their bluff or they're going to walk all over you...
 
2012-07-10 04:13:35 PM
I support these new nomenclatures we have for politicians and look forward to many new ones in the future!
 
2012-07-10 04:15:22 PM
Hmmm.

Perhaps we should keep the illegals and deport the republicans.
 
2012-07-10 04:17:39 PM
Good. Come up with something better than Romney did and maybe that can be adopted nationally.
 
2012-07-10 04:19:50 PM

TenaciousP: It's not yet over for Texas. Although the ACA does not specifically provide a procedure to bypass the gov, the state legislature can still create and fund the expansion...if enough people pressure the idiots and don't vote for more tea party morons in November. If not, Texas' federal tax dollars will go to another state. That'll show 'em.



HAHAHAHAHA!

You have way more hope for Texas then I do.
 
2012-07-10 04:20:12 PM

hungryhungryhorus: What would it take for the Executive to play chicken with them on this? Is it possible they could win a political battle over it?

I would just love to see the Obama Administration go "Okay, well then we'll save you the trouble of sending it back by not bothering to send the money in the first place."

I mean really, every once in a while you've got to call their bluff or they're going to walk all over you...


It's be very lulzy for Obama to issue a proclamation from mount stating that states have only until November 1st to decide whether or not to accept the medicaid expansion money, and that if they haven't met that deadline their state will just be covered by the federal exchanges. It would insulate him from charges of trying to deny people health care since he'll be the one taking up their slack; and it would force them to actually stick to their word.
 
2012-07-10 04:24:21 PM
So she's not only wasting court time trying to get the state out of providing benefits for the partners of gay and lesbian state employees, she's also potentially trying to screw over poor Arizonans. Her twatness truly knows no bounds.
 
2012-07-10 04:24:38 PM
"As Texas Gov. Rick Perry becomes the sixth GOP governor to say his state will opt out of the federal health-care law's Medicaid expansion..."

What are the other five states? It's all the obvious stupid ones, isn't it?
 
2012-07-10 04:25:40 PM
Great. How many of these idiots are going to be thrown out of office as their constituents realize they turning down federal money that they would be getting for healthcare and saving people's lives?

It sounds cool to them for now but people are realizing quickly what this means to them and for others in their state.
 
2012-07-10 04:26:20 PM

gilgigamesh: Brewer and the rest of these red state blow hards are only "considering opting out" until the day after the election. They are actually claiming they are going to reject a 100% (and later 90%) subsidy to cover low income medicaid recipients? Suuuuure they are.

No matter who wins, the very minute the results are in the motivation to shoot themselves in the face will evaporate. At that point they are going to slam it into reverse and not only accept the medicaid expansion, they will be taking credit for it. You will see front page pics of them posing with their big novelty checks, bragging how they "stuck it to Obama and the rest of those Washington big government types" and "fought the good fight for the citizens of [state] to get the coverage they deserve". Every last one of them.

Just watch.


This.
 
2012-07-10 04:27:29 PM

gilgigamesh: Brewer and the rest of these red state blow hards are only "considering opting out" until the day after the election. They are actually claiming they are going to reject a 100% (and later 90%) subsidy to cover low income medicaid recipients? Suuuuure they are.

No matter who wins, the very minute the results are in the motivation to shoot themselves in the face will evaporate. At that point they are going to slam it into reverse and not only accept the medicaid expansion, they will be taking credit for it. You will see front page pics of them posing with their big novelty checks, bragging how they "stuck it to Obama and the rest of those Washington big government types" and "fought the good fight for the citizens of [state] to get the coverage they deserve". Every last one of them.

Just watch.


But see, that's the best part. Then when they are up for reelection they will be primaried by someone that's even more full of herpaderp than they are. Can you imagine watching these two have to explain to some wild-eyed crazy running to their right why they took that money and thus tacitly support Obamacare?

It's this downward spiral of crazy that creates more derpy candidates every couple of years that try to out-crazy the incumbent. And it shows no sign of ending since nobody in the GOP shows the slightest indication of trying to hit the brakes. Good for the country? Probably not. But good TV? Oh hell yes. I can't wait to see Perry labeled as some socialist liberal.
 
2012-07-10 04:27:45 PM

Mike Chewbacca: "As Texas Gov. Rick Perry becomes the sixth GOP governor to say his state will opt out of the federal health-care law's Medicaid expansion..."

What are the other five states? It's all the obvious stupid ones, isn't it?


I know Walker did it here in WI. Fark that guy. I kinda hope he completely farks this whole state over at this point. We deserve it.
 
2012-07-10 04:27:47 PM

Mike Chewbacca: "As Texas Gov. Rick Perry becomes the sixth GOP governor to say his state will opt out of the federal health-care law's Medicaid expansion..."

What are the other five states? It's all the obvious stupid ones, isn't it?


floriduh
 
2012-07-10 04:28:02 PM
Please Republican states, turn down the money. Us in the sane states will gladly use your money to fund our poor healthcare program.
 
2012-07-10 04:28:20 PM
You want to motivate people to get to the polls, this will do it.

Watch AZ go blue if she does this.
 
2012-07-10 04:28:49 PM
The federal government should pull all funding from these states. They are bootstrappy enough to survive without a bloated federal system and blue state subsidies, right?
 
2012-07-10 04:32:49 PM

Karma Chameleon: The federal government should pull all funding from these states. They are bootstrappy enough to survive without a bloated federal system and blue state subsidies, right?


This. I don't like my tax money going to help red states that refuse to even try and help themselves. For example, the states that cut back on fire department funding then ask for federal assistance to fight forest fires.
 
2012-07-10 04:34:28 PM
The U.S. Supreme Court largely upheld the federal Affordable Care Act last month...

For some reason this always bugs me. Today could be the 1st, and yesterday they could have made the decision and all of the news outlets would say "last month", sure it's accurate, but it bothers me, I think because it always seems to portray these issues as happening longer back than they really did.

Who knows, it could be another OCD thing, like the fact that I cringe when people pour liquids with an exaggerated 'gurgle' sound. Some of these things are like fingernails on a chalkboard...

Oh well, now onto the topic at hand. They should re-distribute all of the federal health money to these states, 100% of all medical related federal aid. It's just government "pork" anyway, right? Next we should let these scattered A-holes secede, and stop ALL federal aid to them, make it a 10 year deal, where they get no federal age, and a passport is required to cross the border.

Sure would be interesting.
 
2012-07-10 04:35:01 PM

Corvus: Great. How many of these idiots are going to be thrown out of office as their constituents realize they turning down federal money that they would be getting for healthcare and saving people's lives?


I'd imagine just about none of them. The people that elected these idiots get really amped up about them actually farking everyone over. Walker got 300,000 more votes in WI after all that happened here than he got in the initial election. We're shedding jobs as the rest of the country rebounds, young and educated people are leaving, class sizes are increasing as teachers retire early, or seek other work, and enrollment is shrinking in teaching programs at the university because people don't want to spend their lives being a punching bag. And the idiots that elected him love it.

It sounds cool to them for now but people are realizing quickly what this means to them and for others in their state.

The rich realize it means "fark you, I got mine," which they're all about. Most of the rednecks that are getting farked are so blinded by bitterness and spite that even if their own family is destroyed by these actions, it's all worth it. You just don't get it, they got a n***er to get outta that there WH.
 
2012-07-10 04:37:37 PM

Karma Chameleon: The federal government should pull all funding from these states. They are bootstrappy enough to survive without a bloated federal system and blue state subsidies, right?


There are actual people living in these states who disagree with their teabagger government. I live in one (for now); we tried to oust our governor in a special election. The state's about 50/50 on tossing him, with a few percent margin keeping him in. A lot of people have families, homes, careers and businesses in these states and cannot simply move out at their own convenience so that they don't get caught in the cross-fire when the federal and state governments decide to throw down.
 
2012-07-10 04:40:17 PM
I thought Governor Hair was Former Governor, now inmate Rod R. Blagojevich.
 
2012-07-10 04:46:06 PM

LouDobbsAwaaaay: Karma Chameleon: The federal government should pull all funding from these states. They are bootstrappy enough to survive without a bloated federal system and blue state subsidies, right?

There are actual people living in these states who disagree with their teabagger government. I live in one (for now); we tried to oust our governor in a special election. The state's about 50/50 on tossing him, with a few percent margin keeping him in. A lot of people have families, homes, careers and businesses in these states and cannot simply move out at their own convenience so that they don't get caught in the cross-fire when the federal and state governments decide to throw down.


What is it going to take to get these folks to realize where their bread is buttered?
 
2012-07-10 04:47:10 PM

Stile4aly: You want to motivate people to get to the polls, this will do it.

Watch AZ go blue if she does this.


I suppose there are enough retirees there that this could happen, as messing with Medicare has always been a third rail with those folks. But the problem is that they are also the people who grew up voting Republican, and are irrationally afraid of the black Muslim usurper that they just KNOW is up to no good.
 
2012-07-10 04:47:17 PM

MaudlinMutantMollusk: Well, it's not like she's ever going to die

/not without a stake and a mallet being involved, anyway


Dad? That's his crotch.
 
2012-07-10 04:49:33 PM

Karma Chameleon: What is it going to take to get these folks to realize where their bread is buttered?


I suppose you could shut down the hospitals and spray infectious disease from aircraft, and post guards at the border to shoot anyone trying to escape. Or you could try to approach the problem in a sane way that recognizes that these asshole governments keep getting elected on margins of a few percent, meaning about half the voters disagree with the crap they're pulling.
 
2012-07-10 04:49:41 PM

Corvus: Great. How many of these idiots are going to be thrown out of office as their constituents realize they turning down federal money that they would be getting for healthcare and saving people's lives?

It sounds cool to them for now but people are realizing quickly what this means to them and for others in their state.


I'd like to see those refused federal dollars redistributed to all the other states taking part in the medicare expansion, just to make their ideological masochism that much sweeter for everyone else.
 
2012-07-10 04:53:05 PM

imashark: I thought Governor Hair was Former Governor, now inmate Rod R. Blagojevich.


Funny how Blago's crimes, while significant, really pale next to what some other governors have planned. Corruption v. let the working poor suffer from preventable/curable diseases. Hmmm

/and that man is more crooked than Owen Wilson's nose
 
2012-07-10 04:58:52 PM

LouDobbsAwaaaay: Karma Chameleon: What is it going to take to get these folks to realize where their bread is buttered?

I suppose you could shut down the hospitals and spray infectious disease from aircraft, and post guards at the border to shoot anyone trying to escape. Or you could try to approach the problem in a sane way that recognizes that these asshole governments keep getting elected on margins of a few percent, meaning about half the voters disagree with the crap they're pulling.


What sane way would this be? If the voters haven't realized the assholishness of the governments by now, what other sane options are there in a landscape dominated by "Both sides are bad"?
 
2012-07-10 04:58:56 PM

Don't Troll Me Bro!: We're shedding jobs as the rest of the country rebounds, young and educated people are leaving, class sizes are increasing as teachers retire early, or seek other work, and enrollment is shrinking in teaching programs at the university because people don't want to spend their lives being a punching bag.


We dog sit for two doctors doing residency here at U-Dub, both from Wisconsin. I asked one about the recent Walker recall outcome and he thought it was good that the unions had someone to check their power. Since he is a client of the wife's I just offered a neutral response and dropped the matter. The other one can't stand how the teacher's are being treated, as she has enjoyed the fine education she has received from the state all of her life. But yeah, they're leaving and I don't think either one is planning to go back to WI. Good luck with what's leftover.
 
2012-07-10 05:00:49 PM

Shadowknight: Stile4aly: You want to motivate people to get to the polls, this will do it.

Watch AZ go blue if she does this.

I suppose there are enough retirees there that this could happen, as messing with Medicare has always been a third rail with those folks. But the problem is that they are also the people who grew up voting Republican, and are irrationally afraid of the black Muslim usurper that they just KNOW is up to no good.


It's not about the retirees. The Medicaid expansion would cover 325,000 people in AZ. McCain won in 2008 by about 180,000 votes, and that was with a hometown advantage. Just tell those 325,000 people that the Republicans are going to take healthcare coverage away from them and their families and you've got a vote.
 
2012-07-10 05:06:08 PM
More for the rest of us.
 
2012-07-10 05:10:28 PM

Soup4Bonnie: Don't Troll Me Bro!: We're shedding jobs as the rest of the country rebounds, young and educated people are leaving, class sizes are increasing as teachers retire early, or seek other work, and enrollment is shrinking in teaching programs at the university because people don't want to spend their lives being a punching bag.

We dog sit for two doctors doing residency here at U-Dub, both from Wisconsin. I asked one about the recent Walker recall outcome and he thought it was good that the unions had someone to check their power. Since he is a client of the wife's I just offered a neutral response and dropped the matter. The other one can't stand how the teacher's are being treated, as she has enjoyed the fine education she has received from the state all of her life. But yeah, they're leaving and I don't think either one is planning to go back to WI. Good luck with what's leftover.


What I don't get is that a lot of people voted for Walker because they felt the recall was "unfair".
 
2012-07-10 05:13:58 PM

Shadowknight: Stile4aly: You want to motivate people to get to the polls, this will do it.

Watch AZ go blue if she does this.

I suppose there are enough retirees there that this could happen, as messing with Medicare has always been a third rail with those folks. But the problem is that they are also the people who grew up voting Republican, and are irrationally afraid of the black Muslim usurper that they just KNOW is up to no good.


If they are like my grandfather, they instinctively blame it all on Obama and his illegal acts. And something about European socialism.
 
2012-07-10 05:23:19 PM

hungryhungryhorus: What would it take for the Executive to play chicken with them on this? Is it possible they could win a political battle over it?

I would just love to see the Obama Administration go "Okay, well then we'll save you the trouble of sending it back by not bothering to send the money in the first place."

I mean really, every once in a while you've got to call their bluff or they're going to walk all over you...


It's like when a child threatens to hold their breath until they get their way. Just let them turn blue once or twice. Let them touch the hot stove. Let them find out that you won't give in to their threats to hurt themselves. They'll learn, and it will be their own fault.

I say that the Feds tell the states that if they don't accept, that's fine. They just won't get the opportunity to change their minds later. Give them a use-it-or-lose-it option. If there's a real possibility that they won't be able to call backsies after the election, then they might start singing a different tune, especially if the voters realize that voting for these people will directly hurt them.

And if the voters STILL elect them, then there's nothing you can do.
 
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