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(Salon)   Joseph Farah puts down the chicken long enough to do an interview with Alex Jones: "If [Obama is] re-elected, we will be hunted down like dogs"   (salon.com ) divider line
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2299 clicks; posted to Politics » on 10 Jul 2012 at 3:33 PM (3 years ago)   |   Favorite    |   share:  Share on Twitter share via Email Share on Facebook   more»



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2012-07-10 04:36:13 PM  
3 votes:

qorkfiend: dittybopper: Jubeebee: Dalrint: Oh man, if this is true, I wanna be the guy that rides on top of the hunting humvee with the 50 gauge fully auto, firing willy-nilly into the desperate crowd of birthers, shouting 'yeeehaaaaaw' or something suitably mindless.

/What?
//You can't tell me that doesn't sound like fun.

Isn't a 50 gauge something like a BB gun?

Granted, firing a BB gun willy-nilly into a desperate crowd of birthers has its own appeal, if only to watch the Hoverround bumper cars that would ensue.

Formula for determining gauge is:

[upload.wikimedia.org image 177x51]

Going by that formula, a 50 gauge would be approximately .45 caliber. A .410 shotgun is almost 68 gauge.

I wouldn't want one shot in my direction.

Why is that formula so absurd?


Ah ha! I used to think the same thing!

So the firearms that were most popular in the days of yore were cannons. Cannons that shot spherical cannon balls. The balls were weighed and would be used to name the class of gun. Like 20-pounder or 10-pounder or something like that. The ammo's weight determined the bore the gun. So if someone asked you how wide that cannon's bore was, you could say something that seemed nonsensical ("10-pounds!") while actually conveying actual information.

(historical note: this is an absurdly inaccurate oversimplification, but you hopefully understand the concepts)

Now what the hell do you do when you create a gun which fires ammo that is LESS than a pound? how do you measure with that system?

Let's say the sphere of lead I'm firing weighs a 12th of a pound.

So if I took a pound of lead, divided it into 12 equal masses, and then formed those masses into spheres their diameter would be equal to something....call it 12 gauge.

That's the official meaning of the term gauge. If your cannonball-sphere weighs half a pound, your gun is 2 gauge. A quarter of a pound, 4 gauge.

Of course we no longer fire spheres of lead, so it makes no sense to us. Just remember that gauge is one of those inverse relationships for measuring things as they get smaller (sub-pound cannonballs) so really big gauge numbers mean itty bitty tiny things. It is also non-linear because of the inverse term and the bore diameter is cubicly related to the volume/mass of the sphere.

/THE MORE YOU KNOW
2012-07-10 05:53:05 PM  
2 votes:

cman: I may be distrustful of humans and the goernment, but even saying that is something that I could never entertain. Willful inaction on an attack on our soil is not something that a government agency would do. Simply speaking, if word ever leak out about pre knowledge, the backlash would be so intense to the point it would be likely that these people would be shot by a citizen before they enter the court house. In simple terms, the reward was not worth the risk.

Have you ever worked for the federal government? Anyone who has ever held a job with them will agree universally on one thing: our government is filled with incompetent fools. That's all what happened. People who should have connected the dots did not do so.


You know, sentiment like this is why the pre-knowledge that does exist, such as that demonstrated and exemplified by the 9/11 Commission Report (and you'd think that if anyone would have a vested interest in political ass-coverage, it would be a political panel), is by-and-large ignored by the American people.

As if our government has never, or never would, acted clandestinely against its citizens' best interests in the past or in ways that could provoke immense blowback. Because, apparently Operation PBSUCCESS, Operation Ajax, Operation Mongoose, the Gulf of Tonkin incident, the training and logistic support of the Mujahideen including illicit opium trade, participation in the Golden Triangle to support the Guomingdang, the Iran-Contra affair, collaboration with Manuel Noriega culminating in the invasion of Panama, and logistic and political support for bureaucratic authoritarian regimes in Latin-America such as that of Augusto Pinochet and death squads across the continent, never happened.

Sorry, but when the DCI is dropping daily briefings on your desk that say things like "Bin Ladin Determined to Strike in US", and had been for months, and you can't be arsed to quit playing farmer to read the goddamn things and do anything about it, it's no longer an inter-departmental SNAFU.
2012-07-10 05:32:44 PM  
2 votes:

cman: I may be distrustful of humans and the goernment, but even saying that is something that I could never entertain. Willful inaction on an attack on our soil is not something that a government agency would do. Simply speaking, if word ever leak out about pre knowledge, the backlash would be so intense to the point it would be likely that these people would be shot by a citizen before they enter the court house. In simple terms, the reward was not worth the risk.

Have you ever worked for the federal government? Anyone who has ever held a job with them will agree universally on one thing: our government is filled with incompetent fools. That's all what happened. People who should have connected the dots did not do so.



There was pre-knowledge. There was a report detailing exactly what type of attack was going to be committed by followers of Bin Laden. It was ignored by George W Bush who let it sit on his desk. He was briefed by CIA daily about threats, and couldn't care less about OBL.

If you read Ali Soufan's book you would have learned both CIA and the FBI were tracking 2 of the future hijackers and allowed them to enter America from Thailand. What they did next is history.

They had someone in custody that was tortured for information and gave up info only when Ali Soufan connected the dots, but by that time it was too late. The known terrorists had hijacked the planes a few days earlier.

FBI was told by superiors to ignore known terrorists getting flight training in America.

Either people in charge were willfully ignorant or just ignorant. They ignored warning signs. I believe it was because some people wanted something to happen to push their agenda through, while others were probably, as you said, incompetent.

There are many things government does well. Hold onto secrets, especially military secrets. You don't go around talking about a secret operation and you don't get incompetent people in high positions of government. You may find them in middle management or low level officers in the military though.
2012-07-10 04:03:40 PM  
2 votes:

rufus-t-firefly: He wants to be important...let's give him this.

Farah, who lives in a Virginia suburb about 20 miles outside of the nation's capital, could think of only one reason why a drone (if that is really what he saw) would be monitoring the area.

"There could only be one thing that this drone was spying on, and that would be me," he said. "That would be my property."


One of the symptoms of delusional paranoia.
2012-07-10 03:51:03 PM  
2 votes:
Yes, exactly like dogs. Because no one hunts dogs.

Except local dog catchers who need to catch the aggressive ones who may hurt others.

So yeah. Just. Like. Dogs.
2012-07-10 03:50:06 PM  
2 votes:
My experience of hunting down dogs consists of driving around the neighborhood looking for the errant beagle while Ms. Eaton stays home to wait for a kindly neighbor to call and say they've found him. So the way I read the situation, this guy has his shorts in a bunch because he's afraid of a free car ride that ends with a yummy cheese stick treat.
2012-07-10 03:47:50 PM  
2 votes:
I saw a drone outside my house the other day too!

upload.wikimedia.org
2012-07-10 03:39:48 PM  
2 votes:

WizardofToast: There. I just set up the gameplan until 2016.


1.bp.blogspot.com
2012-07-10 03:22:07 PM  
2 votes:

vpb: Is that an Obama campaign promise?


ATTENTION ORGANIZING FOR AMERICA.

Jim Messina sends me more emails than my mom. You people make Obama say on stage, "And if re-elected I promise to hunt the editors of WND and Prison Planet for sport" and I will send you some cash.

I promise.

Yours in Allah,

what_now
2012-07-10 03:02:21 PM  
2 votes:
Oh, how I wish that were true.
2012-07-10 06:09:39 PM  
1 vote:
1.bp.blogspot.com
Like this?
Also, it's worth noting that this is beyond having a persecution complex. This is having a future persecution fantasy.
2012-07-10 05:17:41 PM  
1 vote:

cman: Not a lot of people believe that 9/11 was carried out by the Government,



I don't know about that. I watched C-SPAN book TV one weekend and the room in DC was packed with people wanting to hear one author, forgot his name, who is a frequent guest of Alex Jones, talk about conspiracy theories like 9/11

Personally I believe some high ups found out about possible attacks and ignored them knowing anything that happened would give them an opportunity to push through their agenda. Not that they knew exactly what happened, or literally placed controlled demolitions in the towers, or a "rocket" hit buildings. That's just completely dumb. I believe in willful ignorance, not trutherism.
2012-07-10 04:20:11 PM  
1 vote:
"By the way Alex, remember when you were in my office in Virginia, one of my crew asked if you'd ever seen a drone, and you answered no you hadn't," he said. "I get home and within a week or two of that conversation, I'm taking my dog for a walk, and guess what I see right over the tree line? Right above my head is a drone."

The "confirmation," Farah said, came from online images of drones that "resemble what I saw."

Farah, who lives in a Virginia suburb about 20 miles outside of the nation's capital, could think of only one reason why a drone (if that is really what he saw) would be monitoring the area.

"There could only be one thing that this drone was spying on, and that would be me," he said. "That would be my property."


Things in between Washington, DC and Farah's house more important than Farah, a short list:

CIA Headquarters
National Foreign Affairs Training Center
The Pentagon
(Possibly) Quantico Marine Corps Base
Raytheon
Northrop Grumman
Booz Allen Hamilton
Boeing
Airbus
Dulles Airport
National Airport
General Dynamics
KBR
Office of Naval Research
US Coast Guard Office
US Marine Corps Headquarters
Fort Myers
Wendy's
A homeless man
Some gum in the middle of the road
United States Postal Service
Washington Metropolitan Area Transit Authority
Lockheed Martin
Arlington National Cemetery
2012-07-10 04:10:16 PM  
1 vote:
Alex Jones is a riot to listen to. Try it some time. The callers, 'nough said. If you believe this....
However, check out the old Chuck Harder history and how he was destroyed by shennanigans because he believed in what he preached and a certain political party disagreed (he was a weird one, but political cash did shut him down before an election) These nutjobs need to be on the air as a comedy relief, but I give chuck a LOT of credit for trying to bring back US manufacturing on a small scale for radios.
2012-07-10 03:57:53 PM  
1 vote:
One downside of the information age is that it gave paranoid schizophrenics a voice. One downside of the current GOP and Fox News is that they gave schizophrenic a megaphone.
2012-07-10 03:53:37 PM  
1 vote:
I'd say he f*cked that chicken right through the interview.
2012-07-10 03:41:56 PM  
1 vote:
Actual picture of the drone this guy saw checking him out:
www.artistswhothrive.com

If you can't see it, it's because Obama has a chip in your head that won't let you.
2012-07-10 03:40:59 PM  
1 vote:

WizardofToast: Before re-election: If he's re-elected, we will be hunted down like dogs.

After re-election: Soon into his second term we will be hunted down like dogs.

After Obama leaves office despite now hunting people down: He could have hunted us like dogs but the American people stopped him in time.

There. I just set up the gameplan until 2016.


I predict circulating FW: FW: FW:FW Re: FW: RE: RE: FARTBAMA DEATH LIST emails that has Joseph Farah listed between Vince Foster and Ally Sheedy by 2015. Most likely started by Joseph Farah himself.
2012-07-10 03:40:40 PM  
1 vote:
alexjones

THEY HAVE TRAINS READY! AND COFFINS! HALF THE POPULATION NEXT YEAR! THE CULLING! EATING BABIES!

/alexjones

Oh, Alex Jones. You are the malignant cancer of the First Amendment.
2012-07-10 03:40:26 PM  
1 vote:

Bloody William: RE-elected. RE-ELECTED. If Obama is this tyrannical supervillain, why the fark would he wait for his second legitimate term to take you retards out?


These are the kind of people that have Jack Bauer 2012 stickers on their car. They want to vote for a fictional character to keep them safe.

So they firmly believe there's nothing odd about having a super villain explain his plans carefully to the hero, then put that hero in a position where something will kill him in 15 minutes' time. Unless he can escape.
2012-07-10 03:39:29 PM  
1 vote:

what_now: "And if re-elected I promise to hunt the editors of WND and Prison Planet for sport"


Man: The Most Dangerous Game
WND Staff: The Most Portly Game
2012-07-10 03:37:24 PM  
1 vote:
Is there coverage for paranoid schizophrenia under OBAMACARE?
2012-07-10 03:36:00 PM  
1 vote:
Is dog hunting popular?
2012-07-10 03:28:00 PM  
1 vote:
RE-elected. RE-ELECTED. If Obama is this tyrannical supervillain, why the fark would he wait for his second legitimate term to take you retards out?

And no, you can't keep "vetting" him. He officially has more experience being president than all but four other people on the planet.
2012-07-10 02:41:41 PM  
1 vote:
Right, because he's had 3.5 years to hunt you down like a dog and hasn't, but in his second term HE SHALL BECOME MORE POWERFUL THAN YOU CAN IMAGINE
 
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