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(CNN)   Grampa's generation: outrage when Rhett Butler says "damn" on film. Our generation: outrage when someone smokes a cigarette on film   (cnn.com) divider line 69
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2012-07-10 03:59:20 PM  
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2012-07-10 04:00:32 PM  

Trocadero: Ghostbusters wouldn't be PG now, anyway b/c they say shiat a few too many times (and the oral sex dream). Same w/ Back to the Future. I don't think we've gotten any better at all in regards to cursing. I think we've regressed, except for basic cable, which has gone decidedly R rated, except for f-bombs and boobs.


I kind of see the scene with the cig hanging from Dan Aykroyd's mouth as the equivalent of a spit-take. Nothing to get one's panties in a twist over.
 
2012-07-10 04:05:34 PM  
Just wait until Message from Sector Six is released.
 
2012-07-10 04:12:09 PM  

scotzrewl: When watching Jaws a few weeks ago, I realized how farked up as a society we have become. Jaws was rated PG in 1975. Yes, I know they only had, what four ratings then (G, PG, R, X?). Point is, think of all that Jaws contained. Brief nudity, Gore, Violence. All these things would give Jaws a R rating today, but the fact that people smoked in the film would give it a PG-13 by itself.


Remember Pretty Baby? Had to be about 1978. Rated R. Brothel sex and 11 year old Brooke Shields naked. I'm guessing you could get arrested for owning a copy of that movie now.
 
2012-07-10 04:59:00 PM  

jj325: scotzrewl: When watching Jaws a few weeks ago, I realized how farked up as a society we have become. Jaws was rated PG in 1975. Yes, I know they only had, what four ratings then (G, PG, R, X?). Point is, think of all that Jaws contained. Brief nudity, Gore, Violence. All these things would give Jaws a R rating today, but the fact that people smoked in the film would give it a PG-13 by itself.

Remember Pretty Baby? Had to be about 1978. Rated R. Brothel sex and 11 year old Brooke Shields naked. I'm guessing you could get arrested for owning a copy of that movie now.


Interesting, because It's on Netflix. Who wants to post my bail?
 
2012-07-10 05:29:13 PM  

timujin: Should smoking trigger an R rating? No, that's stupid. However, subby, between "damn" and smoking, only one causes cancer.


PG-13 has violence at a level that will kill or permanently injure you immediately, I think it can handle bad habits that have a small chance to kill you in 50 years. If people can pop back up with no ill effects after taking a frying pan to the back of the head so hard they're unconscious (reality: if it knocks you unconscious with head trauma, you're probably never getting up) I think we can safely assume they can smoke all they want with no health problems whatsoever.
 
2012-07-10 05:32:18 PM  

Hyjamon: what if we just replaced all the cigarettes in past movies with walkie-talkies?


Han lit up first.
 
2012-07-10 05:34:55 PM  
I recently re-watched "Avatar" on TV and it was kinda jarring to see Sigourney Weaver's character smoking. But then I remembered she dies, so it's OK.
 
2012-07-10 05:51:34 PM  

Jim_Callahan: timujin: Should smoking trigger an R rating? No, that's stupid. However, subby, between "damn" and smoking, only one causes cancer.

PG-13 has violence at a level that will kill or permanently injure you immediately, I think it can handle bad habits that have a small chance to kill you in 50 years. If people can pop back up with no ill effects after taking a frying pan to the back of the head so hard they're unconscious (reality: if it knocks you unconscious with head trauma, you're probably never getting up) I think we can safely assume they can smoke all they want with no health problems whatsoever.


Hence the bolded portion of my statement above.
 
2012-07-10 05:57:27 PM  

MorePeasPlease: jafiwam: "Damn" is free speech.

Smoking is dangerous to the smoker, and everybody around.

/This is progress, you'll get used to it.


Language has ended up killing far more people throughout human history than cigarette smoke ever did.


Does literature does count? Cause I think the Bible might have cigarettes beat.
 
2012-07-10 05:59:34 PM  

timujin: Should smoking trigger an R rating? No, that's stupid. However, subby, between "damn" and smoking, only one causes cancer.


Done in one.
 
2012-07-10 06:16:24 PM  

sleeper2995: Does literature does count? Cause I think the Bible might have cigarettes beat.


In my opinion, sure.
And I think folks should be able to read it if they want to as well.

I don't particularly enjoy smoke, yet I find that this dread-terror of smoking almost seems to border on hysteria in some people.
 
2012-07-10 06:46:17 PM  
Its not a movie but one series where I saw more smoking than anything post 1979 was the new Battlestar Gallactica. I was surprised a show made in the 2000s would have so much cigarette smoking. Cigars you still see on TV but cigarettes have become pretty rare, due to the omg cigarettes will kill everything around you contingent. Half the main characters smoked and guys like the doctor were outright chain smokers. That show would have gotten an x rating under this plan.

Also where did a nomadic group of refugees get all those smokes in space? Its not like they were growing tobacco on board. After a couple of years the cigs they brought with them would have gone stale.
 
2012-07-10 07:10:50 PM  

Igor Jakovsky: Its not a movie but one series where I saw more smoking than anything post 1979 was the new Battlestar Gallactica. I was surprised a show made in the 2000s would have so much cigarette smoking. Cigars you still see on TV but cigarettes have become pretty rare, due to the omg cigarettes will kill everything around you contingent. Half the main characters smoked and guys like the doctor were outright chain smokers. That show would have gotten an x rating under this plan.

Also where did a nomadic group of refugees get all those smokes in space? Its not like they were growing tobacco on board. After a couple of years the cigs they brought with them would have gone stale.


Replicators, my man. The way of the future. Who needs money when a talking hole in the wall can spit out anything you ask for.
 
2012-07-10 08:08:31 PM  

fusillade762: I recently re-watched "Avatar" on TV and it was kinda jarring to see Sigourney Weaver's character smoking. But then I remembered she dies, so it's OK.


Um..people dieing and everything that happens and people are surprised by smoking? Smoking?
 
2012-07-10 08:31:50 PM  

The_Sponge: CSB:

I jokingly tell people that my interest in cigars started when I first watched "Predator" back when I was 11 or 12.


That's strange, My interest in becoming a Governor stems from the same thing.

Well, that or ALF
 
2012-07-10 10:20:49 PM  
For all secondhand smoke haters/antismoking Nazis, OSHA declared that second hand smoke was not a real threat, and nearly got sued for it.
 
2012-07-11 01:12:49 AM  

KingKauff: Watched The Girl With the Dragon Tattoo over the weekend and about halfway through I realized that I had seen more people smoking in that one movie than all movies combined the past few years.


Fincher and Tarantino don't seem to give a shiat. If they think a character should smoke, they're going to smoke.
 
2012-07-11 02:38:51 AM  
just make em all lollypops

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replace all cursing with "darn" while you're at it
 
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