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2012-07-10 10:58:46 AM
GOP needs to be less stupid, corrupt, and evil.
 
2012-07-10 11:00:23 AM
Done in one

/Goodnight, everybody!
 
2012-07-10 11:02:59 AM
Yeah, well Ed, you thought you could turn Bachmann into a real candidate, too. While I tend to agree with you here, I must question your sanity.
 
2012-07-10 11:03:36 AM
GOP needs to be less bitter, cranky and sex-deprived.
 
2012-07-10 11:04:46 AM

bdub77: GOP needs to be less stupid, corrupt, and evil.


But I was told that both sides are bad? Was I misinfromed?
 
vpb [TotalFark]
2012-07-10 11:07:05 AM

Diogenes: Yeah, well Ed, you thought you could turn Bachmann into a real candidate, too. While I tend to agree with you here, I must question your sanity.


I suspect he saw it as a challenge. If he had pulled it off he would be remembered as the greatest political consultant ever.
 
vpb [TotalFark]
2012-07-10 11:11:52 AM
The old and fat part is good. Demographics will take care of the rest so long as the political process doesn't become so corrupt that ordinary people don't matter.

I think that must be the reason for all the psychotic demagogue stuff, and for the Citizens United crap. If the GOP can get an unbreakable lock on power now they will be farked.
 
2012-07-10 11:12:50 AM
Yea good luck with that.
 
2012-07-10 11:26:02 AM
I clicked hoping it was Al Sharpton's quote.
 
2012-07-10 11:29:15 AM
Note this says nothing about obstructionist, beholden to foreign interests, or dumb... it's just about the superficial appearance of what they are.
 
2012-07-10 11:29:28 AM
The GOP is the flip-side of the peace-and-love hippie open-mindedness of the
1960s: these are the children of the people who passionately believed in
"segregation forever", not just in a racial sense but in a social sense. People
think they're stupid, but in fact they are willfully ignorant, and yet at the same
time they are good students of their closed minded parents. Which is worse, if
you ask me.

Obviously, its going to take at least another generation for these retards to die
off, and then maybe we'll have a shot at being a great nation again.
 
2012-07-10 11:33:34 AM
There's been a spate of rational thought coming out of the GOP lately. WTF is going on here?
 
2012-07-10 11:34:29 AM

vpb: The old and fat part is good. Demographics will take care of the rest so long as the political process doesn't become so corrupt that ordinary people don't matter.

I think that must be the reason for all the psychotic demagogue stuff, and for the Citizens United crap. If the GOP can get an unbreakable lock on power now they will be farked.


There are generally two ways that stars burn out: one is where the star slowly expends its fuel, becoming dimmer and dimmer over time until it just disappears; the other is where the star starts burning through its fuel faster & faster, becoming larger, brighter, and unstable until it suddenly collapses and explodes spectacularly.

The right wing in the US seems to be paralleling the latter.
 
2012-07-10 11:34:54 AM

doyner: There's been a spate of rational thought coming out of the GOP lately. WTF is going on here?


Their survival instinct has kicked in.
 
2012-07-10 11:44:14 AM
I'd settle for a lot less betting on stoopid.

Seriously.

Republican. By and for the promotion of the Republic. Put the Republic first, instead of money, or "Conservatism" that is just rebranded radicalism or Corporatist slogans, and I might come back to the fold, but currently, betting on radicalism and undermining the Constitution under the guise of "Conservatism" isn't going to do it.

The Republican Party used to be for environmental concerns. It used to be about equal protection under the law. That has long been abandoned, but the last twelve years have been simply shameful.
 
2012-07-10 11:52:28 AM

DjangoStonereaver: The GOP is the flip-side of the peace-and-love hippie open-mindedness of the
1960s: these are the children of the people who passionately believed in
"segregation forever", not just in a racial sense but in a social sense. People
think they're stupid, but in fact they are willfully ignorant, and yet at the same
time they are good students of their closed minded parents. Which is worse, if
you ask me.

Obviously, its going to take at least another generation for these retards to die
off, and then maybe we'll have a shot at being a great nation again.


Absolutely not happening. There are plenty of derptastic dumbasses in their 20s, 30s, 40s and early 50s. Much as we'd all like to just hang this on the boomers, there will not be a mass extinction of Republicans once the boomers drive their hoverounds off to the great casino in the sky.

A lot of tea bagger candidates are 30, 40 year olds.

You're seeing the magnificent result of an upbringing in the 80s: me first screw you suburbia, gated communities, private schools or reduced funding, reaganism without conscience, greed-is-good.

The idea of a nation being greater than the sum of its parts socially is long gone, only the military seems to still have a mission these people can get behind. Infrastructure rebuilding is socialism to them, because they have a hummer/suv with all-wheel, air conditioning and a decent commute. no way in hell are these people supporting commuter trains or more mass transit. This is one example, take any example of "spending for the social good" and you'll find the up-and-coming generation X teabaggers solidly in the forefront.

Maybe once the boomers die off, if the entire rest of the country does not flip conservative, then my era who are derpers will be outnumbered. Thats IF the 18-35's now don't flip and turn conservative themselves. We'll see how well that works out. If you guys can't be bothered to vote (2010 was your fault, after all, for not showing up and voting against the tea party) then what will happen say in 20 years, now that you get back involved but it isn't Occupy any more now its "Take Back America" or some other extreme right wing cause. Think it won't happen? People turn conservative with age, apathetic voters in their 20s become right wing dipsh*ts in their 50s.
 
2012-07-10 12:06:26 PM
Interesting thing: by saying "The GOP needs to be less old, fat, and white." that actually makes the GOP less old and white.

Fat . . . meh, not so much.
 
vpb [TotalFark]
2012-07-10 12:08:10 PM

Generation_D: DjangoStonereaver: The GOP is the flip-side of the peace-and-love hippie open-mindedness of the
1960s: these are the children of the people who passionately believed in
"segregation forever", not just in a racial sense but in a social sense. People
think they're stupid, but in fact they are willfully ignorant, and yet at the same
time they are good students of their closed minded parents. Which is worse, if
you ask me.

Obviously, its going to take at least another generation for these retards to die
off, and then maybe we'll have a shot at being a great nation again.

Absolutely not happening. There are plenty of derptastic dumbasses in their 20s, 30s, 40s and early 50s. Much as we'd all like to just hang this on the boomers, there will not be a mass extinction of Republicans once the boomers drive their hoverounds off to the great casino in the sky.

A lot of tea bagger candidates are 30, 40 year olds.

You're seeing the magnificent result of an upbringing in the 80s: me first screw you suburbia, gated communities, private schools or reduced funding, reaganism without conscience, greed-is-good.

The idea of a nation being greater than the sum of its parts socially is long gone, only the military seems to still have a mission these people can get behind. Infrastructure rebuilding is socialism to them, because they have a hummer/suv with all-wheel, air conditioning and a decent commute. no way in hell are these people supporting commuter trains or more mass transit. This is one example, take any example of "spending for the social good" and you'll find the up-and-coming generation X teabaggers solidly in the forefront.

Maybe once the boomers die off, if the entire rest of the country does not flip conservative, then my era who are derpers will be outnumbered. Thats IF the 18-35's now don't flip and turn conservative themselves. We'll see how well that works out. If you guys can't be bothered to vote (2010 was your fault, after all, for not showing up and voting aga ...


I don't know. I went the other way.
 
2012-07-10 12:12:13 PM

Generation_D: DjangoStonereaver: The GOP is the flip-side of the peace-and-love hippie open-mindedness of the
1960s: these are the children of the people who passionately believed in
"segregation forever", not just in a racial sense but in a social sense. People
think they're stupid, but in fact they are willfully ignorant, and yet at the same
time they are good students of their closed minded parents. Which is worse, if
you ask me.

Obviously, its going to take at least another generation for these retards to die
off, and then maybe we'll have a shot at being a great nation again.

Absolutely not happening. There are plenty of derptastic dumbasses in their 20s, 30s, 40s and early 50s. Much as we'd all like to just hang this on the boomers, there will not be a mass extinction of Republicans once the boomers drive their hoverounds off to the great casino in the sky.

A lot of tea bagger candidates are 30, 40 year olds.

You're seeing the magnificent result of an upbringing in the 80s: me first screw you suburbia, gated communities, private schools or reduced funding, reaganism without conscience, greed-is-good.

The idea of a nation being greater than the sum of its parts socially is long gone, only the military seems to still have a mission these people can get behind. Infrastructure rebuilding is socialism to them, because they have a hummer/suv with all-wheel, air conditioning and a decent commute. no way in hell are these people supporting commuter trains or more mass transit. This is one example, take any example of "spending for the social good" and you'll find the up-and-coming generation X teabaggers solidly in the forefront.

Maybe once the boomers die off, if the entire rest of the country does not flip conservative, then my era who are derpers will be outnumbered. Thats IF the 18-35's now don't flip and turn conservative themselves. We'll see how well that works out. If you guys can't be bothered to vote (2010 was your fault, after all, for not showing up and ...


I'd sponsor you if you weren't already a TFD member, so in lieu of that:

americanflagbikini.files.wordpress.com

I salute you as a great American.
 
2012-07-10 12:27:46 PM

doyner: There's been a spate of rational thought coming out of the GOP lately. WTF is going on here?


The people doing it are the ones who didn't get a spot in the Romney campaign and they're pissed.
 
2012-07-10 12:46:27 PM
Why that last one? Barack Obama is the finest Republican to hold the Presidency in 50 years.
 
2012-07-10 12:46:31 PM

bdub77: GOP needs to be less stupid, corrupt, and evil.

Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: But I was told that both sides are bad? Was I misinfromed?


GOP needs to be less stupid, corrupt, and evil... than the Democrats?
 
2012-07-10 12:51:04 PM
The GOP needs to have less blueberry pie on their faces. They was the ones eatin the pie!
 
2012-07-10 01:34:47 PM
the GOP has already lost the bulk of moderates and independents under the age of 50. NONE of the Republican policies really matter to you unless you're in your late 50's or older. In fact, GOP policy decisions actually hurt you quite a bit if you're younger.
 
2012-07-10 01:39:58 PM

Weaver95: the GOP has already lost the bulk of moderates and independents under the age of 50. NONE of the Republican policies really matter to you unless you're in your late 50's or older. In fact, GOP policy decisions actually hurt you quite a bit if you're younger.


Trust me... they've lost a lot of over 50 voters, too
 
2012-07-10 02:03:44 PM

Weaver95: the GOP has already lost the bulk of moderates and independents under the age of 50. NONE of the Republican policies really matter to you unless you're in your late 50's or older. In fact, GOP policy decisions actually hurt you quite a bit if you're younger.


Bwhahaha!

Right. If you are young, Obama's policies of massively increasing the debt has really helped you out.
 
2012-07-10 02:04:32 PM
Considering they've done nothing but piss on and piss off anyone not old, fat, and white (and may I add male), I'd say they have a snowball's chance in hell of attracting to many people not meeting at least two of those criteria.
 
2012-07-10 02:07:44 PM

Generation_D: DjangoStonereaver: The GOP is the flip-side of the peace-and-love hippie open-mindedness of the
1960s: these are the children of the people who passionately believed in
"segregation forever", not just in a racial sense but in a social sense. People
think they're stupid, but in fact they are willfully ignorant, and yet at the same
time they are good students of their closed minded parents. Which is worse, if
you ask me.

Obviously, its going to take at least another generation for these retards to die
off, and then maybe we'll have a shot at being a great nation again.

Absolutely not happening. There are plenty of derptastic dumbasses in their 20s, 30s, 40s and early 50s. Much as we'd all like to just hang this on the boomers, there will not be a mass extinction of Republicans once the boomers drive their hoverounds off to the great casino in the sky.

A lot of tea bagger candidates are 30, 40 year olds.

You're seeing the magnificent result of an upbringing in the 80s: me first screw you suburbia, gated communities, private schools or reduced funding, reaganism without conscience, greed-is-good.

The idea of a nation being greater than the sum of its parts socially is long gone, only the military seems to still have a mission these people can get behind. Infrastructure rebuilding is socialism to them, because they have a hummer/suv with all-wheel, air conditioning and a decent commute. no way in hell are these people supporting commuter trains or more mass transit. This is one example, take any example of "spending for the social good" and you'll find the up-and-coming generation X teabaggers solidly in the forefront.

Maybe once the boomers die off, if the entire rest of the country does not flip conservative, then my era who are derpers will be outnumbered. Thats IF the 18-35's now don't flip and turn conservative themselves. We'll see how well that works out. If you guys can't be bothered to vote (2010 was your fault, after all, for not showing up and ...


This is the extension of my view that Boomers grew up with the Great Infrastructure that their parents put into place from the 30s - the 60s. I grew up not knowing any better and had to learn. We are surrounded by it and nobody can imagine life without it. I fear that as people my age spend more time online, they'll be less able or inclined to travel and see the world beyond- and see what we truly have and learn to appreciate the work and cost that went into it.

Boomers are spoiled. My generation is behind them. What of the next 2?
 
2012-07-10 02:30:49 PM

MeinRS6: Weaver95: the GOP has already lost the bulk of moderates and independents under the age of 50. NONE of the Republican policies really matter to you unless you're in your late 50's or older. In fact, GOP policy decisions actually hurt you quite a bit if you're younger.

Bwhahaha!

Right. If you are young, Obama's policies of massively increasing the debt has really helped you out.


i158.photobucket.com
 
2012-07-10 02:44:18 PM
GOP Strategist: "GOP Needs To Be Less Old, Fat And White"


GOP strategist sounds racist
 
2012-07-10 02:44:59 PM
image3.examiner.com
 
2012-07-10 02:45:33 PM

doyner: There's been a spate of rational thought coming out of the GOP lately. WTF is going on here?


Seeing that pandering to the "OBAMA IS A SEEKRIT MOOSLIM!" crowd is not good for the GOP's long-term political prospects.
 
2012-07-10 02:47:47 PM
The fact that they were able to make Christian Hispanics hate republicans is an amazing feat of bigotry. On paper their ideologies should match up pretty good.
 
2012-07-10 02:48:27 PM

abb3w: bdub77: GOP needs to be less stupid, corrupt, and evil.
Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: But I was told that both sides are bad? Was I misinfromed?

GOP needs to be less stupid, corrupt, and evil... than the Democrats?


I know how much you loved Bin Laden and hated when Obama gave the order to go into Pakistan to get him, but turn it down a notch. This is election season.
 
2012-07-10 02:51:37 PM
Whatever gap ended to boogers and raisonef by the greatest generation? Great at what? Being born at a certain time? It's ridicules send to press that this is the case. They abandoned the ideals we held aloft and now we all pay the price. That's not even a rebellious provclsvato
 
MFL
2012-07-10 02:51:46 PM
Weaver95: the GOP has already lost the bulk of moderates and independents under the age of 50. NONE of the Republican policies really matter to you unless you're in your late 50's or older. In fact, GOP policy decisions actually hurt you quite a bit if you're younger.

If expecting you to move out of your parents house by the time you're 50 "hurts you".....then you might be on to something.
 
MFL
2012-07-10 02:55:08 PM
We are all in good hands. The producers of tomorrow can text, play videogames at the same time. There is nothing they cannot accomplish if you give them gas money.
 
2012-07-10 02:55:31 PM

Weaver95: the GOP has already lost the bulk of moderates and independents under the age of 50. NONE of the Republican policies really matter to you unless you're in your late 50's or older. In fact, GOP policy decisions actually hurt you quite a bit if you're younger.


Yeah, but that hasn't stopped us in the past from being part of the coalition against ourselves. Look at all the crap that most of us help pay for that is against our interests. We can't do anything about it.
 
2012-07-10 02:56:04 PM

Headso: The fact that they were able to make Christian Hispanics hate republicans is an amazing feat of bigotry. On paper their ideologies should match up pretty good.


On paper, yes.

On t-shirts and bumper stickers...

www.conservativecotton.com

...the conservatives have painted themselves into a corner.
 
2012-07-10 02:56:50 PM

MFL: Weaver95: the GOP has already lost the bulk of moderates and independents under the age of 50. NONE of the Republican policies really matter to you unless you're in your late 50's or older. In fact, GOP policy decisions actually hurt you quite a bit if you're younger.

If expecting you to move out of your parents house by the time you're 50 "hurts you".....then you might be on to something.


www.wiichat.com
 
2012-07-10 02:56:52 PM

meat0918: Considering they've done nothing but piss on and piss off anyone not old, fat, and white (and may I add male), I'd say they have a snowball's chance in hell of attracting to many people not meeting at least two of those criteria.


But but but, they are all about economic opportunities for women (just not at the same pay rate)
 
2012-07-10 02:56:59 PM

Spazmojack: Whatever gap ended to boogers and raisonef by the greatest generation? Great at what? Being born at a certain time? It's ridicules send to press that this is the case. They abandoned the ideals we held aloft and now we all pay the price. That's not even a rebellious provclsvato


Truth to power, brother. Speak it!
 
2012-07-10 02:57:17 PM

Spazmojack: Whatever gap ended to boogers and raisonef by the greatest generation? Great at what? Being born at a certain time? It's ridicules send to press that this is the case. They abandoned the ideals we held aloft and now we all pay the price. That's not even a rebellious provclsvato


Huh?
 
2012-07-10 02:58:35 PM

Generation_D:

Maybe once the boomers die off, if the entire rest of the country does not flip conservative, then my era who are derpers will be outnumbered. Thats IF the 18-35's now don't flip and turn conservative themselves. We'll see how well that works out. If you guys can't be bothered to vote (2010 was your fault, after all, for not showing up and ...



Our

fault?! OUR FAULT!?
Don't you blame a bunch of old and stupid voting for one side on us, blame them for being self-centered ignorant assholes.

We've been fighting the older generations was on terrorism in multiple countries, our education rates are obscene, we have extremely poor job prospects, all the older generations have compounded their debt on our shoulders, national infrastructure wasn't maintained or upgraded for us, our healthcare system is a joke, our environment is going to shiat, all State and Federal assets are being sold off, the middle class is being destroyed and we're constantly being told that we're the ones who have messed things up.

And the real kicker. The largest form of taxation without representation I've ever witnessed. The Millennials are the biggest demographic in the United States out-numbering even the Boomers .... but ... there isn't a single Millennial that holds a seat in a single branch of Congress in the United States.
 
2012-07-10 03:00:39 PM

vpb: Diogenes: Yeah, well Ed, you thought you could turn Bachmann into a real candidate, too. While I tend to agree with you here, I must question your sanity.

I suspect he saw it as a challenge. If he had pulled it off he would be remembered as the greatest political consultant ever.


Can't really blame him if that is the case, Bachmann would be a powerhouse woman Republican if she wasn't batshiat insane, or was taken with the idea of keeping her lowly Representative seat (her district is a classic case of gerrymandering).

Of course if I were an engineering genius with a 100 billion dollar trust fund and a nuclear micro-reactor in my chest I could stand a chance at kicking Captain America's ass.
 
2012-07-10 03:00:40 PM

Spazmojack: Whatever gap ended to boogers and raisonef by the greatest generation? Great at what? Being born at a certain time? It's ridicules send to press that this is the case. They abandoned the ideals we held aloft and now we all pay the price. That's not even a rebellious provclsvato


You're kind of living up to your name there.
 
2012-07-10 03:05:54 PM

Headso: The fact that they were able to make Christian Hispanics hate republicans is an amazing feat of bigotry. On paper their ideologies should match up pretty good.


That and making the right wing the party of religious people. I have no farking clue how the Jesus party hates the hungry, sick and poor.

// I know, Catholics and Jews are Kennedy Dems
// and Muslims are Dems for self-preservation purposes
// and those "social justice hippies" are marginalized by the Jesus party
// because Jesus was a white Protestant from Mississippi who spoke extensively against homosex
 
2012-07-10 03:06:12 PM

DjangoStonereaver: Obviously, its going to take at least another generation for these retards to die off, and then maybe we'll have a shot at being a great nation again.


adrianismo.files.wordpress.com
Chaerea: Give [them] enough rope...
Longinus: ...and perhaps, [they'll] hang us all.
 
2012-07-10 03:07:11 PM
Oh, but if the statement was GOP Needs To Be Less Young, Thin And Black, then the libs would be all over me!

The day-to-day oppression I put up with for being old, fat, and white is worse than the Holocaust.
 
2012-07-10 03:13:09 PM
Despite all the rightwing fear mongering about racial demographics, I really don't see the problem with being old and white. Hillary Clinton will probably do very well among non-white and white demographics in 2016. What he said is in essence, how can we polish a turd, that is, how can we put a new face on an old mantra?

The problem is, they can't. The way they have been playing fear politics for immediate gains, has attracted a very radical (some would say nativist) element that will not respond to a non-white candidate. Furthermore, even if they were to find a non-white candidate who is willing to pull the economic line (i.e. Marco Rubio) he is not going to run with Romney, and he is going to avoid much of anti-immigration rhetoric that they have been shilling (as Rubio just did).

The GOP reflects exactly the people they have radicalized to support them, scared, old white people. The biggest irony is that half of the people who support them, are also disenfranchised by them (poor whites who require government assistance). This worked well during the midterm elections (because elderly tend to vote in blocks) but their obstructionism combined with their very narrow demographic will not play out in the general election (especially when women start voting).

I think the problem is much more severe in the GOP. Not only have they lost the increasing non-white vote and significant portions of the female vote, but (and I know this is anecdotal) many mid-aged conservatives such as myself, and even some who are much more to the right of me, have jumped from the GOP because of the impractical and dangerous brinkmanship they are playing with America's future.

/When discussing why Florentine politics were such a mess after Savonarola's death in 1498, Machiavelli observed that it was not that there was a conflict of interest between the populists and and the Ottimati, for conflict of interest is what protected liberty (Madison would draw the same conclusion). Rather, Machiavelli noted that "The reason why all these governments [in Florence] have been defective...is that the alterations in them have been made not for fulfillment of the common good, but for the strengthening and security of the party" ----The Discourses
 
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