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(Buzzfeed)   Here's a list of the nine worst running mates of all time, or, as it's more commonly known, Mitt Romney's short list   (buzzfeed.com) divider line 86
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2012-07-10 02:13:27 PM

netizencain: How is Joe Biden not on there?


Too busy washing the Trans Am.

i90.photobucket.com

Yes, he really does wash it on the White House driveway, in his penny loafers.
 
2012-07-10 02:15:51 PM

Saiga410: Philip Francis Queeg: The list should also include Richard Nixon.

How so? You may hate the man but I cannot think of one issue that he did not squash that might have been a drag on Ike.


Does the name "Checkers" ring a bell? Any time the VP candidate becomes the story in a negative way it's a drag on the ticket.

Besides which Ike hated the guy because of it and very much wanted to dump him off the ticket. Ike would have been the very first to say he was a terrible choice as a running mate. Ike got his revenge in 1960, though.
 
2012-07-10 02:16:42 PM

omgrtfa: Serious Black: I'd like to say Aaron Burr is easily the worst given that he actually killed a man as a result of his performance, but I have to put Calhoun number one solely because he developed a nonsense legal theory that still somehow survives today in the minds of lunatics and militia members.

Wasn't Alexander Hamilton a monarchist?


Some people thought he was at least. I'm skeptical.
 
2012-07-10 02:17:31 PM
I remember the interviews of James Stockdale, and the guy was anything but an articulate speaker. It was just another reminder that Perot lacked the sort of public official experience needed to win a major office. Perot really should have run for governor, the House or the Senate prior to running for the White House. As for Stockdale, the public never got to know what the guy was like because he was usually kept out of the limelight.

Dan Quayle was another person who sucked at public speaking. The man lacked charisma, had a dorky simpleton look and simply did not project an appearance of power or leadership. Then there were the many gaffes he made while talking to the press. IMHO his published writings weren't that bad, but he seemed unable to express any idea ad-hoc without sounding like a retard.

Sarah Palin was just outright unqualified to run for office. She was massively lacking in experience and awareness regarding political issues outside of Alaska. She was also petty and mean, with reported instances of political retaliation and rampant cronyism. She was also a hypocrite, spouting off about the role of religion and family, yet her own family was something of a failure. For the central role that religion played in her life, she seemed to be a really rotten Christian.
 
2012-07-10 02:17:58 PM

netizencain: How is Joe Biden not on there?


Because Biden's a very intelligent man with a ton of foreign policy expertise, with the unfortunate habit of occasionally letting his mouth run away from him. He is by no means among the worst running mates of all time.
 
2012-07-10 02:18:03 PM

TheBaldOneMpls: Mikey1969: Buzzfeed is blocked here. Besides Palin, who else is on the list?

#1 Thomas Eagleton
#2 John Edwards
#3 John C. Calhoun
#4 Geraldine Ferraro
#5 Arron Burr
#6 William E. Miller
#7 Dan Quayle
#8 Adm. James Stockdale
#9 Spiro Agnew
#10 Sarah Palin


WhoIsWillo: Though the article states they are in no order



Thanks guys! Interesting list. How many in the last 50 years or so? 5 or 6. Wow, think that says something?
 
2012-07-10 02:19:33 PM

Mikey1969: How many in the last 50 years or so? 5 or 6. Wow, think that says something?


I think it mainly says memories are short and that past campaign issues get forgotten.
 
2012-07-10 02:29:48 PM

WhoIsWillo: Though the article states they are in no order


They may be in no order, but Eagleton being #1 was certainly no accident.
 
2012-07-10 02:37:22 PM
The article's analysis on Sarah Palin is totally off. She didn't sink the McCain campaign. It was already sunk. McCain was DOA thanks to 8 years of Bush 43 and the damage he did to the Republican brand. Like Geraldine Ferraro, Palin was a longshot pick by a desparate campaign. Underqualified, her job was to divert some of the feminist vote from Obama over to McCain. It didn't work in '84 because the feminists were already voting Democrat. It didn't work in '08 because we had moved on to post-feminism. The baby-boom feminists might feel it was their duty to vote for a woman to advance the cause of women, but by this piont had grown too old to care and the post-feminist women (Gen-X and younger) generally feel that advancing the cause of feminism requires that the woman actually be the better candidate. Advancing an unqualified woman would be a tacit admission that women are inferior and require special help to succeed thus validating older gender sterotypes. She was still more qualified than Dan Quayle (how's that for damning with faint praise?) and he wasn't enough to sink Bush 41.
 
2012-07-10 02:37:33 PM
This came to a head during the 1992 campaign. Shortly before his "potatoe" gaffe, Quayle gave a speech during the L.A. Race Riots. In the speech, Quayle blamed what he called "the decay of American society" for some of the problems, and cited the television program Murphy Brown as an example of such decay. Quayle took specific objection to the portrayal of the lead character as a single mother with no need for a father.

If we must pile on Quayle this is the least of his offenses. He spoke something with a shred of veracity. Anyone who has been through some African American studies curriculum knows that the single-parent household is a major issue for black America. So he used a bad corollary... The point he tried to make was not altogether a bad one.
 
2012-07-10 02:41:30 PM

Mikey1969: TheBaldOneMpls: Mikey1969: Buzzfeed is blocked here. Besides Palin, who else is on the list?

#1 Thomas Eagleton
#2 John Edwards
#3 John C. Calhoun
#4 Geraldine Ferraro
#5 Arron Burr
#6 William E. Miller
#7 Dan Quayle
#8 Adm. James Stockdale
#9 Spiro Agnew
#10 Sarah Palin

WhoIsWillo: Though the article states they are in no order


Thanks guys! Interesting list. How many in the last 50 years or so? 5 or 6. Wow, think that says something?


that finding tidbits about contemporary candidates is easier than historical figures or that reporters are lazy?
 
2012-07-10 02:42:28 PM

netizencain: How is Joe Biden not on there?


Because Joe Biden is an awesome Vice President and running mate. Just listened to his speech last week and was impressed with his intelligence and candor. He is more qualified to be President than RMoney.
 
2012-07-10 02:43:44 PM

funk_soul_bubby: This came to a head during the 1992 campaign. Shortly before his "potatoe" gaffe, Quayle gave a speech during the L.A. Race Riots. In the speech, Quayle blamed what he called "the decay of American society" for some of the problems, and cited the television program Murphy Brown as an example of such decay. Quayle took specific objection to the portrayal of the lead character as a single mother with no need for a father.

If we must pile on Quayle this is the least of his offenses. He spoke something with a shred of veracity. Anyone who has been through some African American studies curriculum knows that the single-parent household is a major issue for black America. So he used a bad corollary... The point he tried to make was not altogether a bad one.


never-the-less, Quayle started and lost an argument to a fictional character on the sit-com, "Murphy Brown".
 
2012-07-10 02:45:29 PM
Never noticed how much Aaron Burr looks like David Cross. Ergo, Cross is an asshole of the highest order. About the only political figure in American history who has Burr beat in that category is another guy on this list - Calhoun.

Also, the article states that Palin remains popular within the Republican Party. That is untrue. She is extremely unpopular within the party. She is popular within the offshoot Tea Party, or elements of the GOP that are not part of its head. Better if they'd just said that she remains popular amongst Republicans.
 
2012-07-10 02:52:51 PM

keithgabryelski: funk_soul_bubby: This came to a head during the 1992 campaign. Shortly before his "potatoe" gaffe, Quayle gave a speech during the L.A. Race Riots. In the speech, Quayle blamed what he called "the decay of American society" for some of the problems, and cited the television program Murphy Brown as an example of such decay. Quayle took specific objection to the portrayal of the lead character as a single mother with no need for a father.

If we must pile on Quayle this is the least of his offenses. He spoke something with a shred of veracity. Anyone who has been through some African American studies curriculum knows that the single-parent household is a major issue for black America. So he used a bad corollary... The point he tried to make was not altogether a bad one.

never-the-less, Quayle started and lost an argument to a fictional character on the sit-com, "Murphy Brown".


Which was kind of a stupid fight to begin with.

Murph was well-enough off that the kid wouldn't go hungry or be boarded at a public school, was (would be) loved enough by mom (and the parade of "dads") that he wouldn't be starved for social interaction, and (as far as we know) had no major health problems that would require constant attention. 2 parents are better than one (usually), but that's a one-parent household that was likely better off than 90% of real American single-parent households.

If Quayle was really worried about the plight of the inner-city poor, he could perhaps have used any number of real-life examples that didn't double as dogwhistles for "Hollywood liberals infect your mind with communism and want to destroy the American family".
 
2012-07-10 02:59:30 PM

cram_hole: [img3.imageshack.us image 250x189]
Disagrees with some of this list.


Came for headless Agnew; leaving happy.
 
2012-07-10 03:00:52 PM

keithgabryelski: that finding tidbits about contemporary candidates is easier than historical figures or that reporters are lazy?


Well, to be fair, remember how "reliable" history is, and with the internet, it seems to be getting even worse. Any single newsworthy incident is portrayed 7 different ways, and only 1 or 2 make it to the history books, regardless of accuracy, never to get fixed. Ever. When all we have is this slanted version of history, is it any wonder when a large portion of research covers an era where someone might have a parent or grandparent that still remembers the score?

Besides, those 5 are some pretty good examples of poor choices for a running mate.
 
2012-07-10 03:05:18 PM

Serious Black: omgrtfa: Serious Black: I'd like to say Aaron Burr is easily the worst given that he actually killed a man as a result of his performance, but I have to put Calhoun number one solely because he developed a nonsense legal theory that still somehow survives today in the minds of lunatics and militia members.

Wasn't Alexander Hamilton a monarchist?

Some people thought he was at least. I'm skeptical.



Elective monarchy

An attempt to create an elective monarchy in the United States failed. Alexander Hamilton argued in a long speech before the Constitutional Convention of 1787 that the President of the United States should be an elective monarch, ruling for "good behavior" (i.e., for life, unless impeached) and with extensive powers. Hamilton believed that elective monarchs had sufficient power domestically to resist foreign corruption, yet there was enough domestic control over their behavior to prevent tyranny at home.[3] His proposal was resoundingly voted down in favor of a four-year term with the possibility of reelection. In his later defense of the Constitution in the Federalist Papers, he often hints that a lifetime executive might be better, even as he praises the system with the four-year term.
 
2012-07-10 03:10:44 PM

Dr Dreidel: keithgabryelski: funk_soul_bubby: This came to a head during the 1992 campaign. Shortly before his "potatoe" gaffe, Quayle gave a speech during the L.A. Race Riots. In the speech, Quayle blamed what he called "the decay of American society" for some of the problems, and cited the television program Murphy Brown as an example of such decay. Quayle took specific objection to the portrayal of the lead character as a single mother with no need for a father.

If we must pile on Quayle this is the least of his offenses. He spoke something with a shred of veracity. Anyone who has been through some African American studies curriculum knows that the single-parent household is a major issue for black America. So he used a bad corollary... The point he tried to make was not altogether a bad one.

never-the-less, Quayle started and lost an argument to a fictional character on the sit-com, "Murphy Brown".

Which was kind of a stupid fight to begin with.

Murph was well-enough off that the kid wouldn't go hungry or be boarded at a public school, was (would be) loved enough by mom (and the parade of "dads") that he wouldn't be starved for social interaction, and (as far as we know) had no major health problems that would require constant attention. 2 parents are better than one (usually), but that's a one-parent household that was likely better off than 90% of real American single-parent households.

If Quayle was really worried about the plight of the inner-city poor, he could perhaps have used any number of real-life examples that didn't double as dogwhistles for "Hollywood liberals infect your mind with communism and want to destroy the American family".


Did you guys hang out with Rach and Phoebs?
 
2012-07-10 03:11:56 PM
FTA : This was compounded by McCain's age when compared to Obama, as many viewed it more likely that Palin would be thrust into the Presidency, should McCain become elected


I love that they went there. We were all freaking thinking it, but I don't recall ever seeing it published anywhere.
 
2012-07-10 03:13:52 PM

Mikey1969: keithgabryelski: that finding tidbits about contemporary candidates is easier than historical figures or that reporters are lazy?

Well, to be fair, remember how "reliable" history is, and with the internet, it seems to be getting even worse. Any single newsworthy incident is portrayed 7 different ways, and only 1 or 2 make it to the history books, regardless of accuracy, never to get fixed. Ever. When all we have is this slanted version of history, is it any wonder when a large portion of research covers an era where someone might have a parent or grandparent that still remembers the score?

Besides, those 5 are some pretty good examples of poor choices for a running mate.


to put a fine point on it, you basically nailed why:

1) the internet make hiding laziness easier
2) there are plenty of history books on these subjects, reading through them would be a burden to lazy reporters
3) disambiguating truth from fiction is the job of an investigative reporter -- historical lies are part of the expected environment
 
2012-07-10 03:28:56 PM
I can't believe Lieberman isn't on that list. He was horrible.
 
2012-07-10 03:42:23 PM

NewWorldDan: The article's analysis on Sarah Palin is totally off. She didn't sink the McCain campaign. It was already sunk. McCain was DOA thanks to 8 years of Bush 43 and the damage he did to the Republican brand. Like Geraldine Ferraro, Palin was a longshot pick by a desparate campaign. Underqualified, her job was to divert some of the feminist vote from Obama over to McCain. It didn't work in '84 because the feminists were already voting Democrat. It didn't work in '08 because we had moved on to post-feminism. The baby-boom feminists might feel it was their duty to vote for a woman to advance the cause of women, but by this piont had grown too old to care and the post-feminist women (Gen-X and younger) generally feel that advancing the cause of feminism requires that the woman actually be the better candidate. Advancing an unqualified woman would be a tacit admission that women are inferior and require special help to succeed thus validating older gender sterotypes. She was still more qualified than Dan Quayle (how's that for damning with faint praise?) and he wasn't enough to sink Bush 41.


Agreed, pretty much. Take out all the bad stuff Palin did... she looked like a typical "working woman in an office". Something so common today, it wasn't a watershed moment at all. Gender equality is barely an issue any more. (I said barely, not non-existant). Its certainly not an issue any voter is going to take into serious consideration.

We've all had woman bosses, worked alongside women at the same job level.

That, and she never really touched on any issues that are important to women.

It was a stupid political move for McCain, but at the same time the dude had no chance.

If he wanted to use inequality as an important deal when choosing his running mate, he should have chosen someone who was black. Or, at least, not white. That would have gotten some political points. But not enough to overtake Obama.
 
2012-07-10 03:46:19 PM

netizencain: How is Joe Biden not on there?


He was just lucky to have others worse than him.
 
2012-07-10 03:50:34 PM
In my lifetime, its gotta be Quayle. I was only in 7th grade, and I remember him being a laughingstock with us *kids*. And this was before most of our parents were spouting their ignorant political ideas around their kids (which i'm sure happens often today). We knew barely anything of politics back then.

Me and my classmates knew almost nothing of the differences between a Republican and a Democrat, and what policy ideas they held at all. Yet, we knew he was a joke.
 
2012-07-10 04:13:40 PM
The community college I first attended when I started college was named after John C. Calhoun. I always wondered who the heck John C. Calhoun was. I guess I could have Googled it but now I kno.
 
2012-07-10 05:26:50 PM
List is bogus with Lieberman and Nixon.
 
2012-07-10 05:29:30 PM

lilbjorn: List is bogus with Lieberman and Nixon.


What was so bad about Liberman? If anything he's a bit bland. But seriously... I never heard of him being considered a liability.

Gore failed because:

He didn't push his environmental agenda (which less than a year after losing the election, he went on the speaking circuit and realized his environmental agenda was wildly popular with people).

And, of course, distancing himself from a wildly popular Bill Clinton.
 
2012-07-10 05:45:33 PM
Stockdale was good. He was like Joe Biden before Joe Biden was Joe Biden.
 
2012-07-10 06:04:26 PM
Adm. James Stockdale

That is still unfair and crass.
 
2012-07-10 06:16:17 PM

havocmike: FTA : This was compounded by McCain's age when compared to Obama, as many viewed it more likely that Palin would be thrust into the Presidency, should McCain become elected

I love that they went there. We were all freaking thinking it, but I don't recall ever seeing it published anywhere.


Yeah, this. But I'm convinced that even despite his age, if McCain had chosen anyone else he would be president right now.

We get it, he's black.
 
2012-07-10 06:34:45 PM

bentley57: Yeah, this. But I'm convinced that even despite his age, if McCain had chosen anyone else he would be president right now.


No way. The anti-Bush vote made Obamam a lock, considering Obama made no major (real or fake/rumored) mistakes.
 
2012-07-10 07:40:07 PM

Jubeebee: netizencain: How is Joe Biden not on there?

Biden is a bland, rust-belt policy wonk whose verbal mishaps aren't bad enough to overshadow his main purpose, which is to make blue collar whites more comfortable voting for a black guy. He's a perfectly adequate running mate.


Biden is also something of a genius when it comes to foreign policy; he's able to see the way things are going to break long before they happen, and Obama has been right to listen to his advice.

/Biden and Clinton have turned out to be about the best foreign policy team of the last century or so.
 
2012-07-10 07:41:27 PM

bentley57: Yeah, this. But I'm convinced that even despite his age, if McCain had chosen anyone else he would be president right now.


McCain wanted Lieberman, who would have a better choice, but who would have still cost him the election.
 
2012-07-10 08:38:11 PM

bentley57: But I'm convinced that even despite his age, if McCain had chosen anyone else he would be president right now.


McCain 2000, I'd agree.
McCain 2008, not so much.

Even with the specter of Keating Five and his behavior regarding his ex-wife, McCain of 2000 might have pulled off a win. But the dude changed after the 2000 primary races (especially South Carolina), and not in a good way. A lot of moderates and independents didn't like the resulting shift. His VP pick in 2008 simply validated those concerns.
 
2012-07-10 09:07:41 PM

thamike: Adm. James Stockdale

That is still unfair and crass.


Who is he and why is he here on this list?

/Soz, could not resist.
//I actually have more respect for Admiral Stockdale that I do for Perot.
 
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