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2012-07-10 04:47:06 PM  

Marine1: I hate the Yankees but I want the same rules for them as I do for us.


They do. You just don't like what those rules are.
 
2012-07-10 04:49:08 PM  

idesofmarch: Marine1: I hate the Yankees but I want the same rules for them as I do for us.

They *do* have the same rules. There's no guarantee of a roster spot in the HRD for the home team. If a Royal had the numbers, he'd have gotten a spot - end of story.


If that was true A Escobar would be an all star not farking jeter
 
2012-07-10 04:50:11 PM  

idesofmarch: The Bestest: Next year's ASG is at CitiField. I fully expect him to be vocal about Met representation in the HRD.

Oh that's going to be priceless. A home run derby in Citifield? The winner's going to be whoever manages to hit one.


Hope you're being sarcastic. They moved in the fences at CitiField this past offseason to make it more hitter-friendly.
 
2012-07-10 04:50:43 PM  

idesofmarch: Marine1: I hate the Yankees but I want the same rules for them as I do for us.

They *do* have the same rules. There's no guarantee of a roster spot in the HRD for the home team. If a Royal had the numbers, he'd have gotten a spot - end of story.


You mean like Billy Butler? You know, the guy who has more home runs than Prince Fielder.
 
2012-07-10 04:50:57 PM  

Marine1: Also, about this thing where it's for the audience at home... eh... it isn't really. It's for the fans at the stadium. That's why it's a big farking deal when the ALG comes to town. It happens once every few decades. The TV audience can see it on their screen anywhere every year. Don't pretend a television viewer means more than someone at the game itself, because they aren't more important. They're not a part of the community that's trying to put on the best show possible for the nation, putting a shiat ton of funding up on the civic level to make sure everything goes smoothly. Every city that hosts the ASG should get a spot on the HRD team. Period. It's the least you can do for the fans, especially in a place like KC, where there isn't much to cheer about.


Yeah, except only one player in the past six seasons has participated in the Derby at his home ballpark -- Albert Pujols in St. Louis in 2009.

Nobody whining about it until now.
 
2012-07-10 04:51:26 PM  

Yanks_RSJ: Marine1: Millions would have tuned in regardless of Cano's status. Besides, how many viewers do you think flipped the channel after he started to pass gas in the wind?

You don't want to hear what I'm saying, so I'm going to stop. This is a business, and unfortunately for you, there ARE people who tune in just for one hitter. By the numbers, it makes more sense for that hitter to be from a bigger market than KC.

But just to reiterate, you are wrong in saying that people in the stadium are more important than the TV audience. There is absolutely no truth to that for a national TV broadcast.


Typical Yankees fan.

"Let's sell out the soul of the game for some cash."

Baseball's lore is built around the hometown hero. The loyal player that stays in the good times and the bad. I know that's unfamiliar for the modern Yankees fan, but not every team is formed by hired guns. The idea that we should put cash above the fan experience is a cancer. Butler should have a spot, as should the player for each host city. Eventually, it'd become accepted fact. It wouldn't make that big of a difference to fans of the game. It'd make tons of difference to fandom whores.
 
2012-07-10 04:51:26 PM  

idesofmarch: The Bestest: Next year's ASG is at CitiField. I fully expect him to be vocal about Met representation in the HRD.

Oh that's going to be priceless. A home run derby in Citifield? The winner's going to be whoever manages to hit one.


Calling it now. Giancarlo Stanton edges out Asdrubal Cabrera, 3-2.

/Why is Asdrubal Cabrera in the home run derby? You'll find out.
 
2012-07-10 04:51:38 PM  

Mid_mo_mad_man: idesofmarch: Marine1: I hate the Yankees but I want the same rules for them as I do for us.

They *do* have the same rules. There's no guarantee of a roster spot in the HRD for the home team. If a Royal had the numbers, he'd have gotten a spot - end of story.

If that was true A Escobar would be an all star not farking jeter


You do realize that the HR Derby and the All Star game are two different things, right?
 
2012-07-10 04:51:40 PM  

Mid_mo_mad_man: If that was true A Escobar would be an all star not farking jeter


Statistically, it's a draw, don't act like it's some grave injustice. The fact that fans vote for the All-Star starters breaks the tie. Sorry, you should have stuffed the ballot boxes like the Giants did.
 
2012-07-10 04:52:25 PM  

Marine1: Typical Yankees fan.

"Let's sell out the soul of the game for some cash."

Baseball's lore is built around the hometown hero. The loyal player that stays in the good times and the bad. I know that's unfamiliar for the modern Yankees fan, but not every team is formed by hired guns. The idea that we should put cash above the fan experience is a cancer. Butler should have a spot, as should the player for each host city. Eventually, it'd become accepted fact. It wouldn't make that big of a difference to fans of the game. It'd make tons of difference to fandom whores.


Didn't you say in the other thread that you're not really much of a fan?
 
2012-07-10 04:52:33 PM  

Wise_Guy: Marine1: Also, about this thing where it's for the audience at home... eh... it isn't really. It's for the fans at the stadium. That's why it's a big farking deal when the ALG comes to town. It happens once every few decades. The TV audience can see it on their screen anywhere every year. Don't pretend a television viewer means more than someone at the game itself, because they aren't more important. They're not a part of the community that's trying to put on the best show possible for the nation, putting a shiat ton of funding up on the civic level to make sure everything goes smoothly. Every city that hosts the ASG should get a spot on the HRD team. Period. It's the least you can do for the fans, especially in a place like KC, where there isn't much to cheer about.

Yeah, except only one player in the past six seasons has participated in the Derby at his home ballpark -- Albert Pujols in St. Louis in 2009.

Nobody whining about it until now.


Arizona 2011 Upton
 
2012-07-10 04:52:36 PM  

Marine1: Yanks_RSJ: Marine1:***snip***

/if you're watching it just for a certain player you're doing it wrong
//watch for everyone
///everyone should include the host city's player


No.
No.
www.roadtrafficsigns.com
 
2012-07-10 04:52:40 PM  

Wise_Guy: Marine1: Also, about this thing where it's for the audience at home... eh... it isn't really. It's for the fans at the stadium. That's why it's a big farking deal when the ALG comes to town. It happens once every few decades. The TV audience can see it on their screen anywhere every year. Don't pretend a television viewer means more than someone at the game itself, because they aren't more important. They're not a part of the community that's trying to put on the best show possible for the nation, putting a shiat ton of funding up on the civic level to make sure everything goes smoothly. Every city that hosts the ASG should get a spot on the HRD team. Period. It's the least you can do for the fans, especially in a place like KC, where there isn't much to cheer about.

Yeah, except only one player in the past six seasons has participated in the Derby at his home ballpark -- Albert Pujols in St. Louis in 2009.

Nobody whining about it until now.


You were told this in the other thread: Arizona booed last year.

/incredible selective memory
 
2012-07-10 04:53:08 PM  

Mid_mo_mad_man: I have never said in this post that people are trying to keep KC down.


It's too late. Now we're all keeping KC down.
 
2012-07-10 04:53:35 PM  

Wise_Guy: Marine1: Typical Yankees fan.

"Let's sell out the soul of the game for some cash."

Baseball's lore is built around the hometown hero. The loyal player that stays in the good times and the bad. I know that's unfamiliar for the modern Yankees fan, but not every team is formed by hired guns. The idea that we should put cash above the fan experience is a cancer. Butler should have a spot, as should the player for each host city. Eventually, it'd become accepted fact. It wouldn't make that big of a difference to fans of the game. It'd make tons of difference to fandom whores.

Didn't you say in the other thread that you're not really much of a fan?


I'm a fan of baseball. I like the game. I dislike the Royals and dislike everyone else even more.
 
2012-07-10 04:53:53 PM  

Marine1: Baseball's lore is built around the hometown hero. The loyal player that stays in the good times and the bad.


Let's bring the reserve clause back so players can be indentured servants like in the olden days.
 
2012-07-10 04:54:04 PM  
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2012-07-10 04:54:32 PM  

Marine1: Yanks_RSJ: Marine1: Millions would have tuned in regardless of Cano's status. Besides, how many viewers do you think flipped the channel after he started to pass gas in the wind?

You don't want to hear what I'm saying, so I'm going to stop. This is a business, and unfortunately for you, there ARE people who tune in just for one hitter. By the numbers, it makes more sense for that hitter to be from a bigger market than KC.

But just to reiterate, you are wrong in saying that people in the stadium are more important than the TV audience. There is absolutely no truth to that for a national TV broadcast.

Typical Yankees fan.

"Let's sell out the soul of the game for some cash."


I'm afraid you'll have to add the California (now Anaheim) Angels and the Houston Astros to that mix. They were as "guilty" of it as the Yankees were in the '70s/'80s.

Baseball's lore is built around the hometown hero. The loyal player that stays in the good times and the bad. I know that's unfamiliar for the modern Yankees fan,.

WOW! Derek Jeter says "EPIC FAIL, BRO!"
 
2012-07-10 04:54:42 PM  

Marine1: Baseball's lore is built around the hometown hero. The loyal player that stays in the good times and the bad. I know that's unfamiliar for the modern Yankees fan, but not every team is formed by hired guns. The idea that we should put cash above the fan experience is a cancer. Butler should have a spot, as should the player for each host city. Eventually, it'd become accepted fact. It wouldn't make that big of a difference to fans of the game. It'd make tons of difference to fandom whores.


Do you know which three players hold the record -in all of sports- for most consecutive years on the same team together?
 
2012-07-10 04:54:55 PM  

Marine1: You were told this in the other thread: Arizona booed last year.

/incredible selective memory


Boo'ed at the intros, not during the Derby, and sure as shiat didn't whine about the rules and the inherent injustices abound in the sacred institution known as the HR Derby.
 
2012-07-10 04:55:34 PM  

Marine1: /if you're watching it just for a certain player you're doing it wrong


I watched to see Trumbito hit Trumbombs. I was rewarded.
 
2012-07-10 04:56:38 PM  

Marine1: ///everyone should include the host city's player


I can tell you with full confidence that, if Seattle were hosting the All-Star game & festivities this year, there would be riots and the locals would burn down the Space Needle if Justin Smoak was included in the HR derby.
 
2012-07-10 04:56:57 PM  

bhcompy: idesofmarch: Marine1: I hate the Yankees but I want the same rules for them as I do for us.

They *do* have the same rules. There's no guarantee of a roster spot in the HRD for the home team. If a Royal had the numbers, he'd have gotten a spot - end of story.

You mean like Billy Butler? You know, the guy who has more home runs than Prince Fielder.


Guy who has 16 HR and never hit more than 21 in a season or guy who has 15, has won the HRD before, and was the youngest player to hit 50 in a season? Seriously?
 
2012-07-10 04:57:30 PM  

Marine1: You were told this in the other thread: Arizona booed last year.

/incredible selective memory


Show me where you suggested instituting a hometeam players clause before this season.
 
2012-07-10 04:57:52 PM  

idesofmarch: Marine1: I hate the Yankees but I want the same rules for them as I do for us.

They *do* have the same rules. There's no guarantee of a roster spot in the HRD for the home team. If a Royal had the numbers, he'd have gotten a spot - end of story.


And the rule is shiat.

Here's the deal: I think this bullshiat where we say "the host city doesn't matter" is just that, bullshiat. Instead of doing it for a few advertising dollars, let's do it for the good of the game, because since we started doing shiat for cash, Major League Baseball has become the laughing stock of American sports.
 
2012-07-10 04:58:58 PM  

roc6783: bhcompy: idesofmarch: Marine1: I hate the Yankees but I want the same rules for them as I do for us.

They *do* have the same rules. There's no guarantee of a roster spot in the HRD for the home team. If a Royal had the numbers, he'd have gotten a spot - end of story.

You mean like Billy Butler? You know, the guy who has more home runs than Prince Fielder.

Guy who has 16 HR and never hit more than 21 in a season or guy who has 15, has won the HRD before, and was the youngest player to hit 50 in a season? Seriously?


This year not what he did in the past.
 
2012-07-10 04:59:11 PM  

Marine1: idesofmarch: Marine1: I hate the Yankees but I want the same rules for them as I do for us.

They *do* have the same rules. There's no guarantee of a roster spot in the HRD for the home team. If a Royal had the numbers, he'd have gotten a spot - end of story.

And the rule is shiat.

Here's the deal: I think this bullshiat where we say "the host city doesn't matter" is just that, bullshiat. Instead of doing it for a few advertising dollars, let's do it for the good of the game, because since we started doing shiat for cash, Major League Baseball has become the laughing stock of American sports.


Really? I didn't see any stories about lockouts/strikes involving MLB in the last 5 years.
 
2012-07-10 04:59:12 PM  

bhcompy: I watched to see Trumbito hit Trumbombs.


When did John Sterling move to Anaheim?
 
2012-07-10 04:59:51 PM  

The Bestest: bhcompy: I watched to see Trumbito hit Trumbombs.

When did John Sterling move to Anaheim?


And if he did? He's all yours Anaheim!
 
2012-07-10 05:02:39 PM  

Rwa2play: The Bestest: bhcompy: I watched to see Trumbito hit Trumbombs.

When did John Sterling move to Anaheim?

And if he did? He's all yours Anaheim!


But that would mean.... Waldman in the booth by herself! DEAR GOD WHAT HAVE YOU DONE!?!?!?!?
 
2012-07-10 05:02:42 PM  
The funniest part about this whole thing that it shows once again how easy it is for the media to turn a minor story into a tempest in a teapot. It was obvious watching it last night that everyone was having fun with it. In numerous shots of the stadium, the fans (and not just Royals fans) were having fun with it and I never saw anyone go over the line. Butler was laughing about it. Cano was laughing about it. Once it was over, most people were content to laugh it off and move on to the game. The only people who were really mad were Yankees fans on Twitter (who no one cares about), Kevin Kietzman (who no one cares about) and the national media who were shocked SHOCKED that wholesome down-home Midwesterners would resort to just base, boorish behavior during one of the great sporting events of our nation's history. The media then proceeded to report over and over again how shocked they were just in case you didn't get the point.

And that led to today, with USA Today reporting on a 'riot' (headline since changed to 'scuffle') in the stands because a couple of drunk guys took swings at each other, New York media sniffing about the injustice of it all, and Boston writers laughing at them for being thin-skinned.
 
2012-07-10 05:03:20 PM  

Di Atribe: Mid_mo_mad_man: I have never said in this post that people are trying to keep KC down.

It's too late. Now we're all keeping KC down.


You'll never keep us down!
 
2012-07-10 05:03:32 PM  

Marine1: And the rule is shiat.

Here's the deal: I think this bullshiat where we say "the host city doesn't matter" is just that, bullshiat. Instead of doing it for a few advertising dollars, let's do it for the good of the game, because since we started doing shiat for cash, Major League Baseball has become the laughing stock of American sports.


Ok, from now on little league rules. Everyone gets to hit.

Grow up.
 
2012-07-10 05:03:40 PM  

Wise_Guy: Marine1: You were told this in the other thread: Arizona booed last year.

/incredible selective memory

Show me where you suggested instituting a hometeam players clause before this season.


It wasn't brought to my attention before this year. Again, I don't particularly care about Major League Baseball. It's a league where the dollar reigns. Alex Rodriguez should have been shown the door when he did steroids in Texas, not given a huge contract in New York. No player needs the money they pay them now. It's a game where you can cheat and no one cares, yet everyone says they're working hard to protect the game. The current situation is a shame to the game and what it could be. As a result, I don't usually pay attention to what happens there until it reaches Kansas City and I have no choice but to see it through social media and the like. I'd like to see it fixed, though. When it is, I'd pay attention again.
 
2012-07-10 05:04:21 PM  

Wise_Guy: Marine1: And the rule is shiat.

Here's the deal: I think this bullshiat where we say "the host city doesn't matter" is just that, bullshiat. Instead of doing it for a few advertising dollars, let's do it for the good of the game, because since we started doing shiat for cash, Major League Baseball has become the laughing stock of American sports.

Ok, from now on little league rules. Everyone gets to hit.

Grow up.


When did I say that?

shiat, you're bad at reading...
 
2012-07-10 05:04:37 PM  

Rex_Banner: Rwa2play: The Bestest: bhcompy: I watched to see Trumbito hit Trumbombs.

When did John Sterling move to Anaheim?

And if he did? He's all yours Anaheim!

But that would mean.... Waldman in the booth by herself! DEAR GOD WHAT HAVE YOU DONE!?!?!?!?


I wouldn't know because I'd rather listen to the opposing team's radio booth instead of the Yanks'.

Dear God they suck bad.
 
2012-07-10 05:05:06 PM  

Mid_mo_mad_man: roc6783: bhcompy: idesofmarch: Marine1: I hate the Yankees but I want the same rules for them as I do for us.

They *do* have the same rules. There's no guarantee of a roster spot in the HRD for the home team. If a Royal had the numbers, he'd have gotten a spot - end of story.

You mean like Billy Butler? You know, the guy who has more home runs than Prince Fielder.

Guy who has 16 HR and never hit more than 21 in a season or guy who has 15, has won the HRD before, and was the youngest player to hit 50 in a season? Seriously?

This year not what he did in the past.


So picking the guy is equally deserving, but has a better chance to win is not a good idea when you are the captain of a team trying to win? Nice logic there, Lou.
 
2012-07-10 05:05:13 PM  

Marine1: Alex Rodriguez should have been shown the door when he did steroids in Texas, not given a huge contract in New York.


A goddamned third of baseball juiced!

/Jesus!
 
2012-07-10 05:05:38 PM  

Mid_mo_mad_man: roc6783: bhcompy: idesofmarch: Marine1: I hate the Yankees but I want the same rules for them as I do for us.

They *do* have the same rules. There's no guarantee of a roster spot in the HRD for the home team. If a Royal had the numbers, he'd have gotten a spot - end of story.

You mean like Billy Butler? You know, the guy who has more home runs than Prince Fielder.

Guy who has 16 HR and never hit more than 21 in a season or guy who has 15, has won the HRD before, and was the youngest player to hit 50 in a season? Seriously?

This year not what he did in the past.


Indeed.

Rwa2play: The Bestest: bhcompy: I watched to see Trumbito hit Trumbombs.

When did John Sterling move to Anaheim?

And if he did? He's all yours Anaheim!


I'd rather have Phys and Hud back.

/they call Royals games now
//Hud still a crazy, stoned homer, though the Royals are one of the few teams he never played for
 
2012-07-10 05:05:58 PM  

roc6783: Guy who has 16 HR and never hit more than 21 in a season or guy who has 15, has won the HRD before, and was the youngest player to hit 50 in a season? Seriously?


I haven't read the entire comments section yet, can someone save me the time ... Has a single Yankees fan actually come out and agreed that it was a total douchebag move on Cano's part?

Because, damn, would I be disappointed in said Yankees fan.
 
2012-07-10 05:06:02 PM  

Dafatone: Marine1: Alex Rodriguez should have been shown the door when he did steroids in Texas, not given a huge contract in New York.

A goddamned third of baseball juiced!

/Jesus!


No shiat neither; at least a goddamed third.
 
2012-07-10 05:06:06 PM  

Mentat: The funniest part about this whole thing that it shows once again how easy it is for the media to turn a minor story into a tempest in a teapot. It was obvious watching it last night that everyone was having fun with it. In numerous shots of the stadium, the fans (and not just Royals fans) were having fun with it and I never saw anyone go over the line. Butler was laughing about it. Cano was laughing about it. Once it was over, most people were content to laugh it off and move on to the game. The only people who were really mad were Yankees fans on Twitter (who no one cares about), Kevin Kietzman (who no one cares about) and the national media who were shocked SHOCKED that wholesome down-home Midwesterners would resort to just base, boorish behavior during one of the great sporting events of our nation's history. The media then proceeded to report over and over again how shocked they were just in case you didn't get the point.

And that led to today, with USA Today reporting on a 'riot' (headline since changed to 'scuffle') in the stands because a couple of drunk guys took swings at each other, New York media sniffing about the injustice of it all, and Boston writers laughing at them for being thin-skinned.


That's quite the biased view you have.

All I see is a bunch of whiny hometown biatches complaining about how unfair it is they didn't get to see Cheese Omelet in a meaningless exhibition.
 
2012-07-10 05:07:02 PM  

Rex_Banner: But that would mean.... Waldman in the booth by herself! DEAR GOD WHAT HAVE YOU DONE!?!?!?!?


Baseball needs an announcer exchange program.
I'd listen to a Hawk Harrelson/Suzyn Waldman booth once (and only once) for the hilarity.
 
2012-07-10 05:07:47 PM  

Marine1: It wasn't brought to my attention before this year. Again, I don't particularly care about Major League Baseball. It's a league where the dollar reigns. Alex Rodriguez should have been shown the door when he did steroids in Texas, not given a huge contract in New York. No player needs the money they pay them now. It's a game where you can cheat and no one cares, yet everyone says they're working hard to protect the game. The current situation is a shame to the game and what it could be. As a result, I don't usually pay attention to what happens there until it reaches Kansas City and I have no choice but to see it through social media and the like. I'd like to see it fixed, though. When it is, I'd pay attention again.


But it's the Yankees fans who don't know anything outside of their team.

You lose.
 
2012-07-10 05:08:19 PM  

The Bestest: Rex_Banner: But that would mean.... Waldman in the booth by herself! DEAR GOD WHAT HAVE YOU DONE!?!?!?!?

Baseball needs an announcer exchange program.
I'd listen to a Hawk Harrelson/Suzyn Waldman booth once (and only once) for the hilarity.


THIS!THIS!THIS!THIS!THIS!THIS!

Now THAT I'd tune in to.
 
2012-07-10 05:08:25 PM  
No, Robby. You got booed because you promised to put Billy Butler in the derby and then put Trumbo in instead.

Could you have said no to Bautista, the home run leader this year? Nope.
Could you have said no to Fielder, the guy who ended up winning, and is only doing poorly because he's in a pitcher's park? No
Could you have said no to Trumbo, the guy who you thought was awesome in BP? Maybe.
Did more people say no to you that definitely deserved to be there? Yes.

So given all of those answers:
Did you belong saying Billy Butler could be included when you already knew you probably weren't going to include him, and probably couldn't have even if you wanted to??
No?
Well, that's why you got booed, farktard.
 
2012-07-10 05:09:02 PM  

Marine1: Wise_Guy: Marine1: And the rule is shiat.

Here's the deal: I think this bullshiat where we say "the host city doesn't matter" is just that, bullshiat. Instead of doing it for a few advertising dollars, let's do it for the good of the game, because since we started doing shiat for cash, Major League Baseball has become the laughing stock of American sports.

Ok, from now on little league rules. Everyone gets to hit.

Grow up.

When did I say that?

shiat, you're bad at reading...


But wouldn't everyone batting be good for the game??

You lose again.
 
2012-07-10 05:09:25 PM  
 
2012-07-10 05:09:44 PM  

Wise_Guy: All I see is a bunch of whiny hometown biatches complaining about how unfair it is they didn't get to see Cheese Omelet in a meaningless exhibition.


It's funny how on the one hand, it's a meaningless exhibition, yet on the other hand, it's so goddamn important for Cano to pick Fielder to help his team win.

I mean, seriously, if it's meaningless, why NOT pick Butler??
 
2012-07-10 05:09:51 PM  

Marine1: Again, I don't particularly care about Major League Baseball. It's a league where the dollar reigns.


You haven't been officially introduced to other professional leagues, have you?
 
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