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(USA Today)   "If you play for the Yankees you get booed everywhere you go." - Robinson Cano, 2012 MLB All-Star Home Run Derby   (content.usatoday.com ) divider line
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2012-07-10 10:58:34 AM  
Maybe Cano (7 HR road, 14 HR home) wasn't really qualified to be "home run derby" anyway. Take them out of that little concrete home run locker they built to replace Yankee Stadium, and see how well they do. Answer, not very.
 
2012-07-10 11:04:30 AM  

Generation_D: Maybe Cano (7 HR road, 14 HR home) wasn't really qualified to be "home run derby" anyway. Take them out of that little concrete home run locker they built to replace Yankee Stadium, and see how well they do. Answer, not very.


Nice try, 3/10.
 
2012-07-10 11:25:44 AM  
Eh, the truth hurts.
 
2012-07-10 11:33:16 AM  
I bet if he'd hit a few out of the park, the boos would've subsided.
 
2012-07-10 11:59:00 AM  
I felt bad for him but I also laughed. Seems the fans were butthurt because no Royal was invited to participate? Butler or whomever? But I'm gonna guess it's due to the "Don't have as many homeruns" factor.

I kinda wonder why Hamilton wasn't in there.
 
2012-07-10 12:11:58 PM  
HR Derby was only fun when everyone was on 'roids.
 
2012-07-10 12:40:15 PM  

IAmRight: HR Derby was only fun when everyone was on 'roids.


Disagrees

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Elandriel: I kinda wonder why Hamilton wasn't in there.


He was invited, but declined.
 
2012-07-10 12:44:37 PM  

Di Atribe: Disagrees


You only disagree because you started caring about baseball when the Rangers got competent. And even he thinks it sucks, which is why he declined to participate this year. =)
 
2012-07-10 01:03:21 PM  
Whether he's a Yankee or not, whether he hit any HRs or not (and he won the HR Derby last year, which wasn't at Yankee Stadium), why boo at an exhibition game or event? It's classless no matter where it's occurring, or who it's occurring to. This was a fun competition, not something with life or death consequences. Tacky fans are tacky.
 
2012-07-10 01:13:46 PM  

IAmRight: Di Atribe: Disagrees

You only disagree because you started caring about baseball when the Rangers got competent. And even he thinks it sucks, which is why he declined to participate this year. =)


Excuse me? Fark you very much. That was out of line.
 
2012-07-10 01:15:30 PM  
Losers.
 
2012-07-10 01:15:52 PM  

IAmRight: And even he thinks it sucks, which is why he declined to participate this year. =)


And actually, he said he wasn't going to do it because he didn't want to risk injury. Do you just make shiat up or what?
 
2012-07-10 01:48:35 PM  

IAmRight: HR Derby was only fun when everyone was on 'roids.


That's sorta true for the All Star game too. I love a pitching war as much as the next guy but it isn't quite the same with so many different starters briefly throwing in one game.
 
2012-07-10 01:53:20 PM  

Di Atribe: And actually, he said he wasn't going to do it because he didn't want to risk injury. Do you just make shiat up or what?


Well he can't just come out and say it sucks. But I think we know what he meant.

Di Atribe: Excuse me? Fark you very much. That was out of line.


Why? There's nothing wrong with it. Baseball's only worth watching when the local team is good. Otherwise it's a boring crapfest.
 
2012-07-10 02:25:17 PM  

IAmRight: Why? There's nothing wrong with it. Baseball's only worth watching when the local team is good. Otherwise it's a boring crapfest.


Because I'm not a bandwagonner & it's insulting for you to imply as much.
 
2012-07-10 02:51:38 PM  
Is there a Yankee trying to make people feel bad for him?

No, that's impossible.....
 
2012-07-10 02:52:01 PM  
Hey, another thread!
Just copy/paste from the Derby thread, where there's maybe 100 posts about the derby itself and 400+ arguing over Cano.

/has nothing new to say about it
 
2012-07-10 02:53:03 PM  

The Muthaship: Is there a Yankee trying to make people feel bad for him?

No, that's impossible.....


No, it's a guy smiling and shrugging off the boos as he answers a reporter's question. Next.
 
2012-07-10 02:53:32 PM  
Oh, this thread again.
 
2012-07-10 02:53:41 PM  

Coco LaFemme: Whether he's a Yankee or not, whether he hit any HRs or not (and he won the HR Derby last year, which wasn't at Yankee Stadium), why boo at an exhibition game or event? It's classless no matter where it's occurring, or who it's occurring to. This was a fun competition, not something with life or death consequences. Tacky fans are tacky.


Absolutely agree. The fact that the booing didn't stop from his introduction to his time at bat made the whole thing uncomfortable. I usually enjoy watching to see the players (including those not participating but just watching with their kids) and it was just a bad mood. I wonder how many people ended up turning the channel...we did.
 
2012-07-10 02:53:47 PM  
What's the point of the HR derby other than putting on a show for the audience? Pick someone from the host team next year, idiots.
 
2012-07-10 02:54:58 PM  
Outside of the AL East why would any team's fans care about the Yankees. Who else have they really messed with recently? Oakland maybe had a gripe ten years ago.
 
2012-07-10 02:56:40 PM  

GoodyearPimp: What's the point of the HR derby other than putting on a show for the audience? Pick someone from the host team next year, idiots.


Which audience? The 45,000 fans at the stadium or the millions watching on TV?
 
2012-07-10 02:57:00 PM  

GoodyearPimp: What's the point of the HR derby other than putting on a show for the audience? Pick someone from the host team next year, idiots.


Right, because ONLY those in KC got to see it. It wasn't on ESPN or anything.

Host team next year is the Mets btw, and I guaran-damn-tee you that if the NYC crowd boo'd the NL captain for not picking a Met, everyone would be taking the captain's side, not the crowd's.
 
2012-07-10 02:57:12 PM  

The Bestest: The Muthaship: Is there a Yankee trying to make people feel bad for him?

No, that's impossible.....

No, it's a guy smiling and shrugging off the boos as he answers a reporter's question. Next.


TFA just has his quote (and subsequent Twat about it). How was the question phrased?
 
2012-07-10 02:58:23 PM  
Oh damn it I'm still arguing about this in the other thread.
 
2012-07-10 02:59:04 PM  
Tradition pinstripes monument park Gehrig Ruth 26 titles (27?) Reggie Jeter best fans Murderers Row Luis Sojo Yankees are my daddy Martin Jackson 153rd street Fat Toad
 
2012-07-10 02:59:20 PM  

NutznGum: GoodyearPimp: What's the point of the HR derby other than putting on a show for the audience? Pick someone from the host team next year, idiots.

Which audience? The 45,000 fans at the stadium or the millions watching on TV?


The people who've actually paid to see the game.
 
2012-07-10 02:59:30 PM  

Decillion: Outside of the AL East why would any team's fans care about the Yankees. Who else have they really messed with recently? Oakland maybe had a gripe ten years ago.


The issue wasn't so much about the Yankees as it was the AL team captain didn't pick the local boy who is 16th in the league in homerruns to fill out a 4 man squad in a homerun hitting contest. The Yankees thing is just spice.
 
2012-07-10 03:00:16 PM  

Yanks_RSJ: Oh, this thread again.


ANOTHER YANKEES FAN COMPLAINING ABOUT HOW MISTREATED THEY ARE WONK WONK
 
2012-07-10 03:01:28 PM  

farbiez: Coco LaFemme: Whether he's a Yankee or not, whether he hit any HRs or not (and he won the HR Derby last year, which wasn't at Yankee Stadium), why boo at an exhibition game or event? It's classless no matter where it's occurring, or who it's occurring to. This was a fun competition, not something with life or death consequences. Tacky fans are tacky.

Absolutely agree. The fact that the booing didn't stop from his introduction to his time at bat made the whole thing uncomfortable. I usually enjoy watching to see the players (including those not participating but just watching with their kids) and it was just a bad mood. I wonder how many people ended up turning the channel...we did.


So the folks who invested nothing (watching on TV) in the event are upset because their beloved Yankee got booed? So upset that they had to turn the channel to not feel uncomfortable?
 
2012-07-10 03:01:53 PM  
The fans at the K were in the right. Made my points in other thread see them there.
 
2012-07-10 03:02:29 PM  

GoodyearPimp: What's the point of the HR derby other than putting on a show for the audience? Pick someone from the host team next year, idiots.


To put on a show for the audience? Audiences like shows. I like shows. If Cano came out & hit 50 home runs, I would've loved it, even though the Yankees suck.
 
2012-07-10 03:04:43 PM  

The Bestest: GoodyearPimp: What's the point of the HR derby other than putting on a show for the audience? Pick someone from the host team next year, idiots.

Right, because ONLY those in KC got to see it. It wasn't on ESPN or anything.

Host team next year is the Mets btw, and I guaran-damn-tee you that if the NYC crowd boo'd the NL captain for not picking a Met, everyone would be taking the captain's side, not the crowd's.


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2012-07-10 03:06:47 PM  

Di Atribe: IAmRight: HR Derby was only fun when everyone was on 'roids.

Disagrees

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That was the last HR derby I actually watched, and even that was sort of a fluky "wow, I literally have NOTHING better to do tonight, so I guess I'll watch..."

I think last evening I opted instead to reorganize my spice rack and measure the blades of grass in the front lawn.
 
2012-07-10 03:10:05 PM  

Di Atribe: Yanks_RSJ: Oh, this thread again.

ANOTHER YANKEES FAN COMPLAINING ABOUT HOW MISTREATED THEY ARE WONK WONK


We aren't mistreated. We are just bored with hearing the same critics. Come up with new stuff.
 
2012-07-10 03:11:39 PM  

Killer Cars: I think last evening I opted instead to reorganize my spice rack


Where do you keep your Paprika? I can never mine when i'm looking for it.
 
2012-07-10 03:12:44 PM  
I said this in the other thread, and have been called a Yankee homer who only wants to see Yankees in the Yankee Derby, but I'll try again:

The fans in KC wanted to see their guy, which I understand, but national fans would have chosen Cano, Trumbo, Bautista, and Fielder (plus a handful of other guys) over Bulter (who I've got nothing against - he's a fine player, just not at the top level). Putting Bulter in over any of them makes KC fans happy, but other fans watching on TV would have rather seen someone else. If it's about fans, we should consider ALL fans, not just the 40,000 in the building
 
2012-07-10 03:14:36 PM  
Sports Media: The audacity of those Philadelphia fans- wait, this happened in NOT Philadelphia? Then that means this isn't a news story!


/Give me a break, it's been a painful season.
//I don't agree with it myself, it was still kind of amusing though. Who cares, it's the HR Derby.
 
2012-07-10 03:15:59 PM  

WTF Indeed: Di Atribe: Yanks_RSJ: Oh, this thread again.

ANOTHER YANKEES FAN COMPLAINING ABOUT HOW MISTREATED THEY ARE WONK WONK

We aren't mistreated. We are just bored with hearing the same critics. Come up with new stuff.


Maybe the rest of the nation is tired of hearing about your team anymore and all the fellation, and NY fan ejaculation over them? It's your team, enjoy and know every detail about them that can be known but maybe some of us are just tired of hearing all about a team thousands of miles away we don't give a shiat about. Which doesn't make me a hater, it makes me tired of oversaturation.
 
2012-07-10 03:17:53 PM  

Rex_Banner: I said this in the other thread, and have been called a Yankee homer who only wants to see Yankees in the Yankee Derby, but I'll try again:

The fans in KC wanted to see their guy, which I understand, but national fans would have chosen Cano, Trumbo, Bautista, and Fielder (plus a handful of other guys) over Bulter (who I've got nothing against - he's a fine player, just not at the top level). Putting Bulter in over any of them makes KC fans happy, but other fans watching on TV would have rather seen someone else. If it's about fans, we should consider ALL fans, not just the 40,000 in the building



Considering that Butler has more homers then Prince and he's the face of KC right now they got a legit beef.
 
2012-07-10 03:19:58 PM  
Kansas City has hated the Yankees ever since they were the defacto farm system for the Yankees starting in the 50's with the Athletics. Any Yankee fan who was upset about the fans booing Cano last night knows nothing about the history of the Yankees.
 
2012-07-10 03:20:00 PM  

Mid_mo_mad_man: Considering that Butler has more homers then Prince and he's the face of KC right now they got a legit beef.


Maybe Cano is friends with Prince. Maybe he wanted a rematch from last year. Who knows.

Either way, your guy didn't get picked, nor would he have had Prince declined.

Get over it.
 
2012-07-10 03:20:24 PM  

Yanks_RSJ: Where do you keep your Paprika? I can never mine when i'm looking for it.


I'm not even sure off the top of my head. Unless I'm using the grill, with my style of cooking, you could replace my spice rack with "one (1) squirt bottle of sriracha" and I wouldn't notice anything.
 
2012-07-10 03:21:02 PM  
Edwin Encarnacion should have been in the Derby, much better numbers than Billy 'Country Breakfast' Butler and EE didn't even get picked for the All Star team.
 
2012-07-10 03:21:09 PM  
A local radio station caught Robinson Cano in a lie, and broadcasted the proof of it before the derby.

It got the KC crowd fired up.
 
2012-07-10 03:22:06 PM  

WTF Indeed: Kansas City has hated the Yankees ever since they were the defacto farm system for the Yankees starting in the 50's with the Athletics. Any Yankee fan who was upset about the fans booing Cano last night knows nothing about the history of the Yankees.


I don't care that they booed Cano. That they booed Cano and then call him and the Yankees classless is an irony worth pointing out.
 
2012-07-10 03:22:56 PM  

mkhamy: A local radio station caught Robinson Cano in a lie, and broadcasted the proof of it before the derby.

It got the KC crowd fired up.


"I would consider it" =/= "I'm picking Billy Butler"
 
2012-07-10 03:23:07 PM  

mkhamy: A local radio station caught Robinson Cano in a lie, and broadcasted the proof of it before the derby.

It got the KC crowd fired up.


Was Cano not the fifth caller when he said he was?

/He said he'd consider a Royal.
 
2012-07-10 03:23:18 PM  

mkhamy: A local radio station caught Robinson Cano in a lie, and broadcasted the proof of it before the derby.

It got the KC crowd fired up.


Yes Then he said during it he didnt care about the fans
 
2012-07-10 03:24:33 PM  

Rex_Banner: I said this in the other thread, and have been called a Yankee homer who only wants to see Yankees in the Yankee Derby, but I'll try again:

The fans in KC wanted to see their guy, which I understand, but national fans would have chosen Cano, Trumbo, Bautista, and Fielder (plus a handful of other guys) over Bulter (who I've got nothing against - he's a fine player, just not at the top level). Putting Bulter in over any of them makes KC fans happy, but other fans watching on TV would have rather seen someone else. If it's about fans, we should consider ALL fans, not just the 40,000 in the building


Is your second paragraph supposed to be a rebuttal against the point in your first paragraph?
 
2012-07-10 03:26:40 PM  

Mid_mo_mad_man: mkhamy: A local radio station caught Robinson Cano in a lie, and broadcasted the proof of it before the derby.

It got the KC crowd fired up.

Yes Then he said during it he didnt care about the fans


Yeah, don't even TRY to start this lie.

He did say "I don't care about the fans" in an interview AFTER he took his swings, but it was in the context of "he didn't care that they were booing". Very poorly worded yes, but his English isn't the greatest and context is everything.
 
2012-07-10 03:26:47 PM  
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2012-07-10 03:27:54 PM  

Mid_mo_mad_man: Rex_Banner: I said this in the other thread, and have been called a Yankee homer who only wants to see Yankees in the Yankee Derby, but I'll try again:

The fans in KC wanted to see their guy, which I understand, but national fans would have chosen Cano, Trumbo, Bautista, and Fielder (plus a handful of other guys) over Bulter (who I've got nothing against - he's a fine player, just not at the top level). Putting Bulter in over any of them makes KC fans happy, but other fans watching on TV would have rather seen someone else. If it's about fans, we should consider ALL fans, not just the 40,000 in the building


Considering that Butler has more homers then Prince and he's the face of KC right now they got a legit beef.


To rehash the other thread - Fielder is a bigger name and is a better HR hitter than Butler (Butler leads him 16-15 this year, but Fielder has a much better HR track record). Fielder has more national appeal than Butler.
 
2012-07-10 03:29:01 PM  
I didn't read the Derby thread, but I hope somebody pointed out that when the fans in KC cheered Cano's outs, they were cheering when money failed to be donated to charity. Now *that's* classy.

It's understandable that KC fans would be disappointed that Butler didn't make the roster, but geez, get over it. If he had the numbers he would have been in.
 
2012-07-10 03:29:02 PM  

The Bestest: He did say "I don't care about the fans" in an interview AFTER he took his swings, but it was in the context of "he didn't care that they were booing". Very poorly worded yes, but his English isn't the greatest and context is everything.


Why use that thing called "context" when you can just take a few words at random and attribute them to someone with a tenuous grasp of the English language to prove that you as a city were slighted by the dastardly Robinson Cano and the Evil Empire.
 
2012-07-10 03:29:25 PM  

room at the top: Rex_Banner: I said this in the other thread, and have been called a Yankee homer who only wants to see Yankees in the Yankee Derby, but I'll try again:

The fans in KC wanted to see their guy, which I understand, but national fans would have chosen Cano, Trumbo, Bautista, and Fielder (plus a handful of other guys) over Bulter (who I've got nothing against - he's a fine player, just not at the top level). Putting Bulter in over any of them makes KC fans happy, but other fans watching on TV would have rather seen someone else. If it's about fans, we should consider ALL fans, not just the 40,000 in the building

Is your second paragraph supposed to be a rebuttal against the point in your first paragraph?


I love that saying "We should consider the nationwide audience" makes me a Yankee homer.
 
2012-07-10 03:29:39 PM  

Wise_Guy: Either way, your guy didn't get picked, nor would he have had Prince declined.

Get over it.


This is clearly a big deal, as apparently the entire Royals franchise and its history has been forever invalidated by not having Billy Butler in the HR derby. The Kansas City economy will now collapse from this shame, and the Royals will have to relocate to Sioux Falls.

/Ideally, I'd rather have Butler be there too, but, such is life.
 
2012-07-10 03:30:13 PM  
Wise Guy

No, he was lying on air about the decision. He said he couldn't pick a Royal because he had to get the line up in early. But later back tracked and said he decided to not pick Billy. And then he tried to put the decision on Albert Pujol's for some reason.
 
2012-07-10 03:30:53 PM  
Robinson Cano is one of the top 5 position players in baseball, easy.

And he's somehow not that visible and not that much of a household name. It's ridiculous.
 
2012-07-10 03:31:34 PM  

rudemix: WTF Indeed: Di Atribe: Yanks_RSJ: Oh, this thread again.

ANOTHER YANKEES FAN COMPLAINING ABOUT HOW MISTREATED THEY ARE WONK WONK

We aren't mistreated. We are just bored with hearing the same critics. Come up with new stuff.

Maybe the rest of the nation is tired of hearing about your team anymore and all the fellation,


Yeah well blame ESPN for that.

and NY fan ejaculation over them?

Yeah well that's us. We care about your team the way you care about yours; is it bordering on the obsessive? No, that's Red Sox fans territory.

It's your team, enjoy and know every detail about them that can be known but maybe some of us are just tired of hearing all about a team thousands of miles away we don't give a shiat about. Which doesn't make me a hater, it makes me tired of oversaturation.

Again, blame ESPN for that.
 
2012-07-10 03:32:49 PM  

robsul82: [i.imgur.com image 479x321]


i.imgur.com

/kept the hair just because
 
2012-07-10 03:34:27 PM  
You poor, long suffering Yankee fans. However will you cope? A grown man who plays a child's game for a living got booed by the fans of a rival team! The horror.
 
2012-07-10 03:36:06 PM  

idesofmarch: I didn't read the Derby thread, but I hope somebody pointed out that when the fans in KC cheered Cano's outs, they were cheering when money failed to be donated to charity. Now *that's* classy.

It's understandable that KC fans would be disappointed that Butler didn't make the roster, but geez, get over it. If he had the numbers he would have been in.


How *classy* is it to donate money only if a guy hits a homerun?

How *classy* is it to announce "Look at us, we are donating money!"?

Donating money and bragging about it is not *classy*.
 
2012-07-10 03:36:57 PM  

The Muthaship: You poor, long suffering Yankee fans. However will you cope? A grown man who plays a child's game for a living got booed by the fans of a rival team! The horror.


I don't think anyone who roots for the Yankees gives a crap, except to laugh at how lame Royals fans are.
 
2012-07-10 03:37:13 PM  

The Muthaship: got booed by the fans of a rival team!


Do you lecture prostitutes about the subtleties of Whitney Houston's music? Because it's not 1987, lol.
 
2012-07-10 03:37:50 PM  

mkhamy: Donating money and bragging about it is not *classy*.


Says the guy who doesn't donate anything.
 
2012-07-10 03:37:55 PM  

WTF Indeed: Come up with new stuff.


Okay. You'll be kept out of the postseason by an expansion team from Florida, and nobody past the Brooklyn Bridge thinks your second baseman is HOF material.
 
2012-07-10 03:39:27 PM  

The Muthaship: You poor, long suffering Yankee fans. However will you cope? A grown man who plays a child's game for a living got booed by the fans of a rival team! The horror.


WHERE IS THIS SENTIMENT COMING FROM?
Seriously.. it's been claimed multiple times in this thread and the other, and I'm just not seeing it.

All the reaction I've seen so far from the Yankees fans here that I know about have been amusement, mild confusion (as to why KC fans are making such a huge deal about it), pity or any combination thereof. I haven't seen anything even resembling persecution, yet people keep claiming it. Someone help me out? Quote a post or something?
 
2012-07-10 03:39:42 PM  

Dafatone: Robinson Cano is one of the top 5 position players in baseball, easy.

And he's somehow not that visible and not that much of a household name. It's ridiculous.


Top 5 2B, but top 5 all positions?

You do know of Votto, Braun, Hamilton, McCutcheon and Cabrera right?
 
2012-07-10 03:39:49 PM  

Yanks_RSJ: Why use that thing called "context" when you can just take a few words at random and attribute them to someone...


Works in the politics tab.
 
2012-07-10 03:40:41 PM  

EyeballKid: WTF Indeed: Come up with new stuff.

Okay. You'll be kept out of the postseason by an expansion team from Florida, and nobody past the Brooklyn Bridge thinks your second baseman is HOF material.


Shiat, I meant shortstop. You know what I'm getting at.
 
2012-07-10 03:41:04 PM  

EyeballKid: nobody past the Brooklyn Bridge thinks your second baseman is HOF material.


Well, he's certainly no Billy Butler.
 
2012-07-10 03:41:07 PM  

Dafatone: And he's somehow not that visible and not that much of a household name. It's ridiculous


I don't know much about his personality, so maybe him not being bueno at ingles and some other factors with him personally keep him from being a more marketable star.

That said, he has a Griffey-esque flair to how he actually plays the game. Super smooth swing that he could replicate a thousand times and barely get tired from it, and everything about how he handles himself on the field is just...suave. I personally don't question his effort or desire, but he's basically the exact opposite of your Dustin Pedroia/Scrappy McGrassStain where he doesn't seem to exert any wasted motion, and I wonder if that rubs some people the wrong way.
 
2012-07-10 03:41:31 PM  

Wise_Guy: I don't care that they booed Cano. That they booed Cano and then call him and the Yankees classless is an irony worth pointing out


So? You know what the best part about this is? Once Butler's contract is over in 2015, he'll be 29 year old solid hitter who will want to win a championship. He'll take the [Insert competitive team name]'s offer and Royals fans will complain about their players being stolen.
 
2012-07-10 03:42:39 PM  

Killer Cars: That said, he has a Griffey-esque flair to how he actually plays the game.


I think that means something different in Seattle than it does in Cincinnati. Unless you're saying that he gets injured more often than Mr. Glass.
 
2012-07-10 03:43:45 PM  

EyeballKid: Okay. You'll be kept out of the postseason by an expansion team from Florida,


This year? Not impossible, but unlikely. Besides, already happened in 2008.

and nobody past the Brooklyn Bridge thinks your second baseman is HOF material.

Don't think anyone's (worth listening to anyway) made any Hall claims about Cano yet. Way too early.
 
2012-07-10 03:43:55 PM  

Di Atribe: IAmRight: Why? There's nothing wrong with it. Baseball's only worth watching when the local team is good. Otherwise it's a boring crapfest.

Because I'm not a bandwagonner & it's insulting for you to imply as much.


Di is many things, but a band-wagoner is definitely not one. Unrepentant Romo lover, yes...bandwagon jumper, not even a bit.


//I just whiteknighted a Cowboy fan? I feel queasy...
 
2012-07-10 03:45:12 PM  

WTF Indeed: He'll take the [Insert competitive team name]'s offer and Royals fans will complain about their players being stolen.


And that's what is so unfair about the economics of baseball. A former WalMart CEO and uber-Gazillionaire like David Glass just can't possibly spend any money to keep their young stars.
 
2012-07-10 03:45:31 PM  

EyeballKid: Okay. You'll be kept out of the postseason by an expansion team from Florida, and nobody past the Brooklyn Bridge thinks your second baseman is HOF material.


Your knowledge of geography and the current standings is truly admirable.

In the context of the rest of the US - there really isn't anything "past" the Brooklyn Bridge except New Yorkers since it connects Manhattan and Brooklyn. You probably should have used one of the Hudson River crossings in your little comment, although there are surely plenty of people in New Jersey who would disagree with you as well.
 
2012-07-10 03:45:39 PM  
Billy Butler is just hoping that by the time his audition - er, excuse me, contract - is over, one of the big boys will pick him up and get him the Hell out of KC.

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2012-07-10 03:46:09 PM  

EyeballKid: Shiat, I meant shortstop. You know what I'm getting at.


You're seriously gonna make an argument against -Jeter- for the Hall?
'Kay.

/disregard if this is sarcasm.. my meter's in the shop
 
2012-07-10 03:48:14 PM  

Killer Cars: And that's what is so unfair about the economics of baseball. A former WalMart CEO and uber-Gazillionaire like David Glass just can't possibly spend any money to keep their young stars.


They don't seem to enjoy being reminded of this little nugget.
 
2012-07-10 03:48:15 PM  

EyeballKid: Unless you're saying that he gets injured more often than Mr. Glass.


Well, consider my half-assed comparison as using the "good, healthy" Griffey. Although, speaking as Red Sox fan, I wouldn't mind Cano spending his career past the age of 30 pulling his hamstring every time he gets out of bed.
 
2012-07-10 03:48:50 PM  

The Bestest: You're seriously gonna make an argument against -Jeter- for the Hall?
'Kay.


I'll say if Jeter either A) hadn't been surrounded by cheaters and out-and-out scumbags with the Yankees or B) played for a small-market team, he wouldn't have lasted more than 5 seasons in the bigs. Bernie Williams and Tino Martinez did more for those World Series wins than "The Captain" did. He just happened to benefit from a brighter spotlight and a lowered bar.
 
2012-07-10 03:50:46 PM  
It's all right, you'll join Inge in Oakland in a couple years, and all will be well.
 
2012-07-10 03:50:55 PM  

Killer Cars: WTF Indeed: He'll take the [Insert competitive team name]'s offer and Royals fans will complain about their players being stolen.

And that's what is so unfair about the economics of baseball. A former WalMart CEO and uber-Gazillionaire like David Glass just can't possibly spend any money to keep their young stars.


[ohsnap.jpg]
 
2012-07-10 03:51:27 PM  

Killer Cars: And that's what is so unfair about the economics of baseball. A former WalMart CEO and uber-Gazillionaire like David Glass just can't possibly spend any money to keep their young stars.


To be fair, any owner willing to spend their own money to make the team better is just crazy. That's not a good business model. Smart team owners own a team to make them money, stupid team owners own a team to win championships.
 
2012-07-10 03:52:02 PM  

WTF Indeed: To be fair, any owner willing to spend their own money to make the team better is just crazy. That's not a good business model. Smart team owners own a team to make them money, stupid team owners own a team to win championships.


Mike Brown, is that you?
 
2012-07-10 03:52:36 PM  

WTF Indeed: Smart team owners own a team to make them money, stupid team owners own a team to win championships.


Turns out you can do both.
 
2012-07-10 03:53:45 PM  

EyeballKid: I'll say if Jeter either A) hadn't been surrounded by cheaters and out-and-out scumbags with the Yankees or B) played for a small-market team, he wouldn't have lasted more than 5 seasons in the bigs. Bernie Williams and Tino Martinez did more for those World Series wins than "The Captain" did. He just happened to benefit from a brighter spotlight and a lowered bar.


pinkie.ponychan.net
 
2012-07-10 03:54:22 PM  

Yanks_RSJ: Killer Cars: And that's what is so unfair about the economics of baseball. A former WalMart CEO and uber-Gazillionaire like David Glass just can't possibly spend any money to keep their young stars.

They don't seem to enjoy being reminded of this little nugget.


If only he had a TV contract that kicks in a cool $90 million a year.
 
2012-07-10 03:54:22 PM  

EyeballKid: The Bestest: You're seriously gonna make an argument against -Jeter- for the Hall?
'Kay.

I'll say if Jeter either A) hadn't been surrounded by cheaters and out-and-out scumbags with the Yankees or B) played for a small-market team, he wouldn't have lasted more than 5 seasons in the bigs. Bernie Williams and Tino Martinez did more for those World Series wins than "The Captain" did. He just happened to benefit from a brighter spotlight and a lowered bar.


Yeah. I'm curious-- during which of those first five seasons would have replaced him: Link
 
2012-07-10 03:54:26 PM  

WTF Indeed: Killer Cars: And that's what is so unfair about the economics of baseball. A former WalMart CEO and uber-Gazillionaire like David Glass just can't possibly spend any money to keep their young stars.

To be fair, any owner willing to spend their own money to make the team better is just crazy. That's not a good business model. Smart team owners own a team to make them money, stupid team owners own a team to win championships.


Steinbrenner purchased the Yankees for less than $8M, improved the team largely through self-investment, and they were worth over $1.2B by the time of his death.
 
2012-07-10 03:54:43 PM  

room at the top: Dafatone: Robinson Cano is one of the top 5 position players in baseball, easy.

And he's somehow not that visible and not that much of a household name. It's ridiculous.

Top 5 2B, but top 5 all positions?

You do know of Votto, Braun, Hamilton, McCutcheon and Cabrera right?


He's the top 2b, without a doubt.

Votto, Braun, Cabrera, and Hamilton are all better hitters. But Votto's a 1b, and Braun's an LF. Those are power hitting positions. Cabrera's at 3rd right now, and if he can stay there without too many grounders bouncing off him that's an obvious plus. Hamilton's fantastic, especially for a CF. So is McCutcheon, but I want to see him be great more than one year before I'm ready to put him among these names.

I'm not saying Cano's a top shiatter. But there's nobody close to Cano's offense at 2b. Not consistently.
 
2012-07-10 03:55:51 PM  

The Bestest: Steinbrenner purchased the Yankees for less than $8M, improved the team largely through self-investment, and they were worth over $1.2B by the time of his death.


Please, haven't you ever heard of inflation?
 
2012-07-10 03:56:10 PM  

ThatGuyGreg: Generation_D: Maybe Cano (7 HR road, 14 HR home) wasn't really qualified to be "home run derby" anyway. Take them out of that little concrete home run locker they built to replace Yankee Stadium, and see how well they do. Answer, not very.

Nice try, 3/10.


For his career, he has 59 HRs in 281 at bats in the new Yankee Stadium, 21% rate. In all other parks combined, he's 105 HRs in 857 at bats. (Camden, Fenway, and Tropicana have all been really good to him, too).
 
2012-07-10 03:56:24 PM  

Wise_Guy: EyeballKid: The Bestest: You're seriously gonna make an argument against -Jeter- for the Hall?
'Kay.

I'll say if Jeter either A) hadn't been surrounded by cheaters and out-and-out scumbags with the Yankees or B) played for a small-market team, he wouldn't have lasted more than 5 seasons in the bigs. Bernie Williams and Tino Martinez did more for those World Series wins than "The Captain" did. He just happened to benefit from a brighter spotlight and a lowered bar.

Yeah. I'm curious-- during which of those first five seasons would have replaced him: Link


If he were a Pirate, they would have sent him to Triple-A for being too good and replaced him with someone who sucked
 
2012-07-10 03:56:33 PM  

Yanks_RSJ: Killer Cars: And that's what is so unfair about the economics of baseball. A former WalMart CEO and uber-Gazillionaire like David Glass just can't possibly spend any money to keep their young stars.

They don't seem to enjoy being reminded of this little nugget.


Yeah right? But blame the Yankees for actually spending money to make more money.

Idiots.
 
2012-07-10 03:56:34 PM  

The Bestest: Steinbrenner purchased the Yankees for less than $8M, improved the team largely through self-investment, and they were worth over $1.2B by the time of his death.


It was actually $8.5m and he did it because he couldn't get a table at his favorite NYC steak house.
 
2012-07-10 03:57:47 PM  

EyeballKid: WTF Indeed: To be fair, any owner willing to spend their own money to make the team better is just crazy. That's not a good business model. Smart team owners own a team to make them money, stupid team owners own a team to win championships.

Mike Brown, is that you?


media.tumblr.com
 
2012-07-10 03:58:30 PM  

Dafatone: I'm not saying Cano's a top shiatter.


No, George Brett has that honor locked.
 
2012-07-10 03:58:34 PM  

GoodyearPimp: What's the point of the HR derby other than putting on a show for the audience? Pick someone from the host team next year, idiots.


But then the Yankees don't get to have their time in the sun.

/no, really, that's the reason
 
2012-07-10 03:59:11 PM  

room at the top: Yanks_RSJ: Killer Cars: And that's what is so unfair about the economics of baseball. A former WalMart CEO and uber-Gazillionaire like David Glass just can't possibly spend any money to keep their young stars.

They don't seem to enjoy being reminded of this little nugget.

If only he had a TV contract that kicks in a cool $90 million a year.


Strawman detected. You think Steinbrenner had a massive TV contract in place to build the 70s Yankees?
 
2012-07-10 03:59:55 PM  

Mid_mo_mad_man: Rex_Banner: I said this in the other thread, and have been called a Yankee homer who only wants to see Yankees in the Yankee Derby, but I'll try again:

The fans in KC wanted to see their guy, which I understand, but national fans would have chosen Cano, Trumbo, Bautista, and Fielder (plus a handful of other guys) over Bulter (who I've got nothing against - he's a fine player, just not at the top level). Putting Bulter in over any of them makes KC fans happy, but other fans watching on TV would have rather seen someone else. If it's about fans, we should consider ALL fans, not just the 40,000 in the building


Considering that Butler has more homers then Prince and he's the face of KC right now they got a legit beef.


So they should have chosen Butler over Prince but Miggy Cabrerra over Butler? Either way, a Tiger gets in and KC fans lose out -- which has to chaff particularly after the series this week.
 
2012-07-10 04:00:28 PM  

Marine1: GoodyearPimp: What's the point of the HR derby other than putting on a show for the audience? Pick someone from the host team next year, idiots.

But then the Yankees don't get to have their time in the sun.

/no, really, that's the reason


Jesus what a bunch of babies.

BUTLER DIDN"T DESERVE IT. MOVE ON.
 
2012-07-10 04:00:34 PM  

room at the top: If only he had a TV contract that kicks in a cool $90 million a year.


Even KC could work to get themselves a nice TV deal (winning will help that thought).

This article is a few months old, but check out the highlight nugget below:

"And even the San Diego Padres- playing in the 26th largest market in baseball - are, pending MLB approval, poised to sign a new deal with Fox Sports that will guarantee them $75 million a year for the next 20 years".
 
2012-07-10 04:00:39 PM  

Rwa2play: Strawman detected. You think Steinbrenner had a massive TV contract in place to build the 70s Yankees?


Hell, Steinbrenner bought the Yankees -from- CBS.
 
2012-07-10 04:00:53 PM  
KC,
Robinson Cano doesn't care about boos.
www.terezowens.com
 
2012-07-10 04:01:50 PM  

mkhamy: idesofmarch: I didn't read the Derby thread, but I hope somebody pointed out that when the fans in KC cheered Cano's outs, they were cheering when money failed to be donated to charity. Now *that's* classy.

It's understandable that KC fans would be disappointed that Butler didn't make the roster, but geez, get over it. If he had the numbers he would have been in.

How *classy* is it to donate money only if a guy hits a homerun?

How *classy* is it to announce "Look at us, we are donating money!"?

Donating money and bragging about it is not *classy*.


Donating money and bragging about it is better than not donating money.
 
2012-07-10 04:02:30 PM  

omahatattoo: KC,
Robinson Cano doesn't care about boos.
[www.terezowens.com image 600x495]


dammit, now -I- hate Cano, too!
 
2012-07-10 04:02:47 PM  

The Bestest: The Muthaship: You poor, long suffering Yankee fans. However will you cope? A grown man who plays a child's game for a living got booed by the fans of a rival team! The horror.

WHERE IS THIS SENTIMENT COMING FROM?
Seriously.. it's been claimed multiple times in this thread and the other, and I'm just not seeing it.

All the reaction I've seen so far from the Yankees fans here that I know about have been amusement, mild confusion (as to why KC fans are making such a huge deal about it), pity or any combination thereof. I haven't seen anything even resembling persecution, yet people keep claiming it. Someone help me out? Quote a post or something?


Yahoo

"The 2012 version of the Home Run Derby became, at the very least, uncomfortable for New York Yankees second baseman Robinson Cano on Monday, July 9. At worst, it was embarrassing and cruel, as the fans who packed the stadium in Kansas City booed Cano unmercifully throughout his dismal performance."

The Yankee butthurt continues on from there.

I've read some in the other thread, about how Cano was put in a tight spot and how we aren't supposed to expect him to get off the roster after he exhausted himself. Please.
 
2012-07-10 04:03:19 PM  
Hey, remember how those self-centered Yankees fans whined when no Yankees were in the HR Derby in 2008?

"But we paid to see our guys !1!"

STFU KC
 
2012-07-10 04:03:19 PM  

Marine1: GoodyearPimp: What's the point of the HR derby other than putting on a show for the audience? Pick someone from the host team next year, idiots.

But then the Yankees don't get to have their time in the sun.

/no, really, that's the reason


No, that's not the argument. That;s what you want the argument to be so that you feel better. No one has been saying that in these threads.

The argument is that fans of all 30 teams should be considered.
 
2012-07-10 04:04:08 PM  
If Yankees fans get this worked up over a few Bronx cheers, maybe they should switch to tennis.
 
2012-07-10 04:04:34 PM  

idesofmarch: EyeballKid: I'll say if Jeter either A) hadn't been surrounded by cheaters and out-and-out scumbags with the Yankees or B) played for a small-market team, he wouldn't have lasted more than 5 seasons in the bigs. Bernie Williams and Tino Martinez did more for those World Series wins than "The Captain" did. He just happened to benefit from a brighter spotlight and a lowered bar.

[pinkie.ponychan.net image 252x242]


From Baseball Reference:

Black Ink Batting - 9, Average HOFer ≈ 27
Gray Ink Batting - 141, Average HOFer ≈ 144
Hall of Fame Monitor Batting - 310, Likely HOFer ≈ 100
Hall of Fame Standards Batting - 67, Average HOFer ≈ 50

Similar Batters:
Craig Biggio (786)
Frankie Frisch (771) *
Johnny Damon (770)
Robin Yount (770) *
Charlie Gehringer (767) *
Ted Simmons (758)
Cal Ripken (750) *
Pete Rose (749)
Ryne Sandberg (742) *
Roberto Clemente (740) *
* - Signifies Hall of Famer

As much as I dislike him and the Yankees just on principle, I would say he is in.
 
2012-07-10 04:04:35 PM  

WTF Indeed: Wise_Guy: I don't care that they booed Cano. That they booed Cano and then call him and the Yankees classless is an irony worth pointing out

So? You know what the best part about this is? Once Butler's contract is over in 2015, he'll be 29 year old solid hitter who will want to win a championship. He'll take the [Insert competitive team name]'s offer and Royals fans will complain about their players being stolen.


Probably the Tigers. They like collecting 1st basemen.
 
2012-07-10 04:05:02 PM  

meanmutton: So they should have chosen Butler over Prince but Miggy Cabrerra over Butler? Either way, a Tiger gets in and KC fans lose out -- which has to chaff particularly after the series this week.


Oh yeah, about the 2011 version of the Home Run derby. Let's take a look at the contestants shall we?

Rickie Weeks, MIL
Matt Kemp, LAD
Robinson Cano, NYY
Jose Bautista, TOR
Adrian Gonzalez, BOS
Matt Holliday, STL
Prince Fielder, MIL
David Ortiz, BOS

Would you look at that! Not ONE of them is an Arizona Diamondback; and I don't recall D-Back fans making a stink out of it. Especially when Justin Upton would've been one of them considering the towering HRs he hits.
 
2012-07-10 04:05:14 PM  

Marine1: Yahoo

"The 2012 version of the Home Run Derby became, at the very least, uncomfortable for New York Yankees second baseman Robinson Cano on Monday, July 9. At worst, it was embarrassing and cruel, as the fans who packed the stadium in Kansas City booed Cano unmercifully throughout his dismal performance."

The Yankee butthurt continues on from there.

I've read some in the other thread, about how Cano was put in a tight spot and how we aren't supposed to expect him to get off the roster after he exhausted himself. Please.


If you need to quote a Yahoo blogger, you've already lost the argument.

The only butthurt here is coming out of KC.
 
2012-07-10 04:05:16 PM  

Elandriel: I kinda wonder why Hamilton wasn't in there


Same reason Adam Dunn wasn't -- they didn't want to be.
 
2012-07-10 04:05:30 PM  
Haven't KC fans seen their horrible team enough? Bring in a winner like Trumbo or Cano so they can see what that looks like.
 
2012-07-10 04:05:35 PM  

Mentat: If Yankees fans get this worked up over a few Bronx cheers, maybe they should switch to tennis.


What? Yankee fans aren't.. fdGHF GAH!~

*seizure*
 
2012-07-10 04:06:00 PM  

The Bestest: omahatattoo: KC,
Robinson Cano doesn't care about boos.
[www.terezowens.com image 600x495]

dammit, now -I- hate Cano, too!


Hey, be nice - maybe he'll toss you one.
 
2012-07-10 04:06:04 PM  

Marine1: no, really, that's the reason


Oh, it's you again. Yeah the HR Derby absolutely MUST have a Yankee.

Except in 2009, 2008 (at Yankee Stadium), 2007, 2006, 2005, 2004, 2001, 2000, 1999, 1998, 1996, 1995, 1994, 1993, 1992, 1991, 1990, 1989, 1988, 1987, 1986 and 1985.

Oh my god, what attention hogs the Yankees are. Your inferiority complex is truly impressive.
 
2012-07-10 04:07:08 PM  
I'm fine with this.

If it were Red Sox fans or Phillies fans or any other large market, Huge payroll team, they'd be hypocrites. But a perennial small market team that is basically a farm team for the Yankees and others: those fans get to boo.
 
2012-07-10 04:07:42 PM  

Rwa2play: meanmutton: So they should have chosen Butler over Prince but Miggy Cabrerra over Butler? Either way, a Tiger gets in and KC fans lose out -- which has to chaff particularly after the series this week.

Oh yeah, about the 2011 version of the Home Run derby. Let's take a look at the contestants shall we?

Rickie Weeks, MIL
Matt Kemp, LAD
Robinson Cano, NYY
Jose Bautista, TOR
Adrian Gonzalez, BOS
Matt Holliday, STL
Prince Fielder, MIL
David Ortiz, BOS

Would you look at that! Not ONE of them is an Arizona Diamondback; and I don't recall D-Back fans making a stink out of it. Especially when Justin Upton would've been one of them considering the towering HRs he hits.


I seem to remember some D-Back fans campaigning for Upton to be in the derby, and being a little upset.

It wasn't a big deal. Because that team's won something in the past three+ decades and their fans haven't had their hearts shriveled by decades of trading all their good players to the Yankees.
 
2012-07-10 04:09:25 PM  

Levarien: I'm fine with this.

If it were Red Sox fans or Phillies fans or any other large market, Huge payroll team, they'd be hypocrites. But a perennial small market team that is basically a farm team for the Yankees and others: those fans get to boo.


Yeah well, they wanna boo someone, boo David Glass for being a cheapskate.
 
2012-07-10 04:10:21 PM  
Oh my God, who the hell cares? Seriously, how can anyone complain about a Yankee getting booed? Are y'all new to sports or something, the Yankees are dicks.
 
2012-07-10 04:10:28 PM  

Rex_Banner: Marine1: GoodyearPimp: What's the point of the HR derby other than putting on a show for the audience? Pick someone from the host team next year, idiots.

But then the Yankees don't get to have their time in the sun.

/no, really, that's the reason

No, that's not the argument. That;s what you want the argument to be so that you feel better. No one has been saying that in these threads.

The argument is that fans of all 30 teams should be considered.


But *especially* the Yankees fans... right? Right?

The player that should have booted himself was Cano. He was exhausted and was in no condition to play. He knew it, too. He was the captain, and he was at the greatest risk of being replaced by Butler or someone else, and the Crankees fans know it. Cano being replaced means less glory for the Evil Empire. If it were one of the other AL players that was gonna get the boot, Yankees fans wouldn't care.
 
2012-07-10 04:10:35 PM  
Total Threadjack:

Sweet jesus, wtf is Dan Uggla doing on the allstar team? I hadn't looked at his numbers, and just assumed he was around 245 with 15-18 hr or something.

Daniel Murphy is actually having a better year.
 
2012-07-10 04:11:58 PM  

Marine1: The player that should have booted himself was Cano. He was exhausted and was in no condition to play. He knew it, too. He was the captain, and he was at the greatest risk of being replaced by Butler or someone else, and the Crankees fans know it. Cano being replaced means less glory for the Evil Empire. If it were one of the other AL players that was gonna get the boot, Yankees fans wouldn't care.


Wow, but no blame on ESPN for putting Yankees/Red Sox on the Sunday before the HR derby right?
 
2012-07-10 04:11:58 PM  

Levarien: I'm fine with this.

If it were Red Sox fans or Phillies fans or any other large market, Huge payroll team, they'd be hypocrites. But a perennial small market team that is basically a farm team for the Yankees and others: those fans get to boo.


See for me, I get it. When I heard/saw the booing last night, my reaction was "LOL, really? Okay."
It wasn't until I saw the indignant defenses of it in this and the other thread, and the "aww, poor Yankees fans don't like when their guy gets booed!" that that reaction turned to "Huh? Wha?" and the tumor started forming.
 
2012-07-10 04:12:22 PM  

TheJoe03: Oh my God, who the hell cares? Seriously, how can anyone complain about a Yankee getting booed? Are y'all new to sports or something, the Yankees are dicks.


Pretty much no one. This thread is basically three opinions:

1) Hahaha Yankee fans are babies!
2) Uh, we really don't care.
3) No opinion whatsoever.
 
2012-07-10 04:13:33 PM  

Rwa2play: Levarien: I'm fine with this.

If it were Red Sox fans or Phillies fans or any other large market, Huge payroll team, they'd be hypocrites. But a perennial small market team that is basically a farm team for the Yankees and others: those fans get to boo.

Yeah well, they wanna boo someone, boo David Glass for being a cheapskate.


This man has never spent a minute talking baseball with a Kansas Citian.

/hates David Ass
//got excited when there were rumors he was selling the team early this year
///heartbroken when it turned out to be false.
 
2012-07-10 04:13:38 PM  

Marine1: But *especially* the Yankees fans... right? Right?


No. Not at all. I NEVER said that. Nothing even CLOSE to that. And if Cano wasn't there, I would not have had a fit..

All I said was that Cano is a bigger star and a bigger draw than Butler. He has more appeal to a national audience. I don't see what's so hard to understand about that.
 
2012-07-10 04:15:20 PM  

Rwa2play: Levarien: I'm fine with this.

If it were Red Sox fans or Phillies fans or any other large market, Huge payroll team, they'd be hypocrites. But a perennial small market team that is basically a farm team for the Yankees and others: those fans get to boo.

Yeah well, they wanna boo someone, boo David Glass for being a cheapskate.


That's fine too. But if the Royals spent 100 million, the Yankees would soon be spending 400 million.
 
2012-07-10 04:15:22 PM  
The important thing about the home run derby is that it is very important.
 
2012-07-10 04:15:46 PM  
Eh. As far as I'm concerned if it's something you would do at home in front of your TV, it's fine to do at the stadium you paid to get into. Booing some one you don't like for some reason? Fair game. Punching your wife when the Royals lose again? Probably unacceptable. Booing that kid with cancer? Definitely a gray area.
 
2012-07-10 04:16:35 PM  

The Bestest: Levarien: I'm fine with this.

If it were Red Sox fans or Phillies fans or any other large market, Huge payroll team, they'd be hypocrites. But a perennial small market team that is basically a farm team for the Yankees and others: those fans get to boo.

See for me, I get it. When I heard/saw the booing last night, my reaction was "LOL, really? Okay."
It wasn't until I saw the indignant defenses of it in this and the other thread, and the "aww, poor Yankees fans don't like when their guy gets booed!" that that reaction turned to "Huh? Wha?" and the tumor started forming.


Yeah, this.

I just the butthurt emanating from fans of OTHER teams biatching about how the Yankees spend money left and right to get the best players while conveniently leaving out the fact that a) the people that own their clubs are multi-millionaires/billionaires themselves that can't be arsed to spend money on what they bought.

It's like buying a Picasso for $100 Million then letting it sit uncovered and exposed to the elements because you can't be bothered into paying another cent to protect your investment.
 
2012-07-10 04:16:58 PM  

The Bestest: EyeballKid: Shiat, I meant shortstop. You know what I'm getting at.

You're seriously gonna make an argument against -Jeter- for the Hall?
'Kay.

/disregard if this is sarcasm.. my meter's in the shop


I love me some Alan Trammell and it's looking more and more like he's going to make the Hall of Fame. Either way, if Alan Trammell is a borderline Hall of Fame player, Jeter absolutely will make it.
 
2012-07-10 04:18:17 PM  

Dafatone: Sweet jesus, wtf is Dan Uggla doing on the allstar team?


1) He got in on the fan vote, and 2) Believe it or not, he's tied for for 3rd in fWAR for NL second basemen, and the guy who is in first only went ham (the two cycles included) after the voting was pretty much done. The other one in front of him was Neil Walker.
 
2012-07-10 04:18:23 PM  

Rex_Banner: Marine1: But *especially* the Yankees fans... right? Right?

No. Not at all. I NEVER said that. Nothing even CLOSE to that. And if Cano wasn't there, I would not have had a fit..

All I said was that Cano is a bigger star and a bigger draw than Butler. He has more appeal to a national audience. I don't see what's so hard to understand about that.


Guess what: people are gonna tune into that derby whether that Yankee f*cker is on that squad or not. Now, with that in mind, do you let the hometown guy on there when Cano is too tired to play? Yes. The hometown fans would have had a better time, the crowd would have seemed happier on TV, and the results would have probably been the same for the AL, or maybe a little better.
 
2012-07-10 04:18:37 PM  

Rex_Banner: All I said was that Cano is a bigger star and a bigger draw than Butler. He has more appeal to a national audience. I don't see what's so hard to understand about that


No way, Butler's an "everyman". If he walked onto the field at a beer league game in Poughkeepie, you wouldn't be able to tell him apart from the others. Well, except for the fact he's clearly better than the rest, but, you get my drift.
 
2012-07-10 04:18:41 PM  

Rwa2play: meanmutton: So they should have chosen Butler over Prince but Miggy Cabrerra over Butler? Either way, a Tiger gets in and KC fans lose out -- which has to chaff particularly after the series this week.

Oh yeah, about the 2011 version of the Home Run derby. Let's take a look at the contestants shall we?

Rickie Weeks, MIL
Matt Kemp, LAD
Robinson Cano, NYY
Jose Bautista, TOR
Adrian Gonzalez, BOS
Matt Holliday, STL
Prince Fielder, MIL
David Ortiz, BOS

Would you look at that! Not ONE of them is an Arizona Diamondback; and I don't recall D-Back fans making a stink out of it. Especially when Justin Upton would've been one of them considering the towering HRs he hits.


Uhhhh... they booed Prince and Rickie. Weeks had 17 HRs and Upton had 16. Also, Prince and Weeks have been friends since Little League. Sorry Upton, no HRD, not yours.

Butler also did not deserve to be there. Yes, he also had one more HR than Prince, but Prince has won it before and is a much better HR hitter. Sorry Butler, no HRD, not yours.

Explain why it makes sense that Ryan Braun is out, but Billy Butler should be in using facts and then you will convince me.
 
2012-07-10 04:19:07 PM  

Levarien: Rwa2play: Levarien: I'm fine with this.

If it were Red Sox fans or Phillies fans or any other large market, Huge payroll team, they'd be hypocrites. But a perennial small market team that is basically a farm team for the Yankees and others: those fans get to boo.

Yeah well, they wanna boo someone, boo David Glass for being a cheapskate.

That's fine too. But if the Royals spent 100 million, the Yankees would soon be spending 400 million.


Riiiiiiiiiiiight like this past off-season when they got CJ Wilson and Albert Puj...oh wait that was the ANGELS!
 
2012-07-10 04:19:09 PM  

meanmutton: The Bestest: EyeballKid: Shiat, I meant shortstop. You know what I'm getting at.

You're seriously gonna make an argument against -Jeter- for the Hall?
'Kay.

/disregard if this is sarcasm.. my meter's in the shop

I love me some Alan Trammell and it's looking more and more like he's going to make the Hall of Fame. Either way, if Alan Trammell is a borderline Hall of Fame player, Jeter absolutely will make it.


Alan Trammell should be in the Hall of Fame. It sucks that he's going to fall short
 
2012-07-10 04:19:14 PM  

Levarien: That's fine too. But if the Royals spent 100 million, the Yankees would soon be spending 400 million.


Fallacy.
Anaheim, Texas and freaking -Miami- (long among the poster children for underspending) all went on spending sprees this year. Yankee payroll has been relatively flat since 2009 (the Tex/CC/AJ spree).
 
2012-07-10 04:19:24 PM  

Killer Cars: I think last evening I opted instead to reorganize my spice rack and measure the blades of grass in the front lawn.


I was playing trivia at a restaurant. I made sure to sit where I could see the TVs. It was good for keeping the 2 year old at the table occupied. I watched the final round after I got home, which made me wonder.... how long is this farking thing, anyway?

roc6783: //I just whiteknighted a Cowboy fan? I feel queasy...


While I am a Cowboys fan, I'm also a Rangers fan, so for the purposes of THIS thread, I'm a Rangers fan. And thank you for the nice compliments. I've never claimed to be a fan of another baseball team in my life, not even a minor league team. Rangers all the way, baby.

And really, I don't even hate the Yankees. They annoy me. Their fans kinda smell funny. I'll flip A-Rod off every chance I get. But I wouldn't call it HATE. I even like some Yankees fans. Don't tell 'em, though. They'll get all hoity toity on me.
 
2012-07-10 04:20:13 PM  
It will be hilarious when the Yankees get under the luxury tax limit in 2014 and all these teams have to spend more money.
 
2012-07-10 04:21:59 PM  

Marine1: Rex_Banner: Marine1: But *especially* the Yankees fans... right? Right?

No. Not at all. I NEVER said that. Nothing even CLOSE to that. And if Cano wasn't there, I would not have had a fit..

All I said was that Cano is a bigger star and a bigger draw than Butler. He has more appeal to a national audience. I don't see what's so hard to understand about that.

Guess what: people are gonna tune into that derby whether that Yankee f*cker is on that squad or not. Now, with that in mind, do you let the hometown guy on there when Cano is too tired to play? Yes. The hometown fans would have had a better time, the crowd would have seemed happier on TV, and the results would have probably been the same for the AL, or maybe a little better.


It's not that no one will watch with Butler, it's that LESS people would watch with Butler. Joe Fan is much more likely to flip it off and check something else while Billy Butler is batting than while Cano is batting.

And if you replace Cano with Hamilton or Cabrera, I'd say the same thing
 
2012-07-10 04:22:05 PM  
If Butler had hit 35+ home runs this year fark would still be mad that a Royal was being considered. If ESPN would let you see games besides Bos/NY you would relize there quietly building a solid team. A starting rotation is the last part of it
 
2012-07-10 04:22:11 PM  

Wise_Guy: Marine1: Yahoo

"The 2012 version of the Home Run Derby became, at the very least, uncomfortable for New York Yankees second baseman Robinson Cano on Monday, July 9. At worst, it was embarrassing and cruel, as the fans who packed the stadium in Kansas City booed Cano unmercifully throughout his dismal performance."

The Yankee butthurt continues on from there.

I've read some in the other thread, about how Cano was put in a tight spot and how we aren't supposed to expect him to get off the roster after he exhausted himself. Please.

If you need to quote a Yahoo blogger, you've already lost the argument.

The only butthurt here is coming out of KC.


You must have missed the thread from last night. Damn, there was some insane Yankee butthurt last night.
 
2012-07-10 04:22:23 PM  
Thankfully USA today avoided editorializing this story.

I'm honestly growing weary of the expectation by sports media that fans should love a player because he is good or assume that because he is a good player that he must be a decent guy, too. Lebron is a great player but he is still a jerk. Just because he won a championship doesn't mean he is now a swell human being. He is just a great player. Michale Vick is a great player, he still killed dogs. Big Ben is still agreat player, he still has those accusations. Kobe is a great player, but he still has Colorado. Ty Cobb was a racist. And, as much as I believe in Zach Mettenberger as the savior for LSU, he is still the guy banished from Valdosta, GA. Robinson Cano is a great ball payer, but fans at KC hated on him because he did not select a Royals player for the derby.

I'm sad I'm contributing to this story just by stating my opinion that this shouldn't be a story, but I'm also tired of writers and media, mostly ESPN, trying to convince me a guy that plays a good game has to be loved by all fans.
 
2012-07-10 04:23:00 PM  

WTF Indeed: It will be hilarious when the Yankees get under the luxury tax limit in 2014 and all these teams have to spend more money.


Not entirely certain about that. I'm sure Cashman/Hal would love to, but there are too many variables, chief among them, Cano is due.
 
2012-07-10 04:23:56 PM  

Rex_Banner: Alan Trammell should be in the Hall of Fame. It sucks that he's going to fall short


Alan Trammell is a no-doubter in my mind. Watched the guy play through the 80s; (other than Ozzie Smith and Tommy Herr) him and Lou Whittaker were as good as it got up the middle.
 
2012-07-10 04:24:18 PM  

The Bestest: Fallacy.


Those are all major markets, KC is not.
 
2012-07-10 04:24:52 PM  

dcducote: Ty Cobb was a racist.


I'm reading Al Stump's book right now. He was truly a horrible, psychotic human being, but he could play ball.
 
2012-07-10 04:25:02 PM  

Levarien: But if the Royals spent 100 million, the Yankees would soon be spending 400 million.


Well they'd have to. Everyone knows that the only thing standing between the Yankees and another dynasty is the KC Royals.
 
2012-07-10 04:25:58 PM  

Di Atribe: IAmRight: Di Atribe: Disagrees

You only disagree because you started caring about baseball when the Rangers got competent. And even he thinks it sucks, which is why he declined to participate this year. =)

Excuse me? Fark you very much. That was out of line.


No Di he's right. Since we've only been watching/supporting Rangers baseball for 40 years, we're bandwagonners.
www.antifeministtech.info
 
2012-07-10 04:26:07 PM  

Rex_Banner: meanmutton: The Bestest: EyeballKid: Shiat, I meant shortstop. You know what I'm getting at.

You're seriously gonna make an argument against -Jeter- for the Hall?
'Kay.

/disregard if this is sarcasm.. my meter's in the shop

I love me some Alan Trammell and it's looking more and more like he's going to make the Hall of Fame. Either way, if Alan Trammell is a borderline Hall of Fame player, Jeter absolutely will make it.

Alan Trammell should be in the Hall of Fame. It sucks that he's going to fall short


In his first eleven years of eligibility, he has received the following percentage of votes: 15.7% (2002), 14.1% (2003), 13.8% (2004), 16.9% (2005), 17.7% (2006), 13.4% (2007), 18.2% (2008), 17.4% (2009), 22.4% (2010), 24.3% (2011) and 36.8% (2012). (from wikipedia)

There's a good chance he makes it.
 
2012-07-10 04:26:37 PM  

TheJoe03: The Bestest: Fallacy.

Those are all major markets, KC is not.


Really? Miami didn't act like it until they got the new stadium. Anaheim didn't act like one until they got the Fox Sports deal.
 
2012-07-10 04:27:59 PM  

Mid_mo_mad_man: If Butler had hit 35+ home runs this year fark would still be mad that a Royal was being considered. If ESPN would let you see games besides Bos/NY you would relize there quietly building a solid team. A starting rotation is the last part of it


Yeah, there's a huge conspiracy to keep KC down.
 
2012-07-10 04:29:33 PM  

Rex_Banner: Marine1: Rex_Banner: Marine1: But *especially* the Yankees fans... right? Right?

No. Not at all. I NEVER said that. Nothing even CLOSE to that. And if Cano wasn't there, I would not have had a fit..

All I said was that Cano is a bigger star and a bigger draw than Butler. He has more appeal to a national audience. I don't see what's so hard to understand about that.

Guess what: people are gonna tune into that derby whether that Yankee f*cker is on that squad or not. Now, with that in mind, do you let the hometown guy on there when Cano is too tired to play? Yes. The hometown fans would have had a better time, the crowd would have seemed happier on TV, and the results would have probably been the same for the AL, or maybe a little better.

It's not that no one will watch with Butler, it's that LESS people would watch with Butler. Joe Fan is much more likely to flip it off and check something else while Billy Butler is batting than while Cano is batting.

And if you replace Cano with Hamilton or Cabrera, I'd say the same thing


I'm confused -- are you saying that Cano is a bigger name nationally than Hamilton or Cabrera? Or are you saying that Billy Butler is less well known than Hamilton and Cabrera? Honestly, I'd say that Hamilton and Cabrera > Cano > Butler, but I have nothing to back that up with.
 
2012-07-10 04:30:15 PM  

Wise_Guy: Mid_mo_mad_man: If Butler had hit 35+ home runs this year fark would still be mad that a Royal was being considered. If ESPN would let you see games besides Bos/NY you would relize there quietly building a solid team. A starting rotation is the last part of it

Yeah, there's a huge conspiracy to keep KC down.


Why do you think they don't have an NBA or NHL team besides having a stadium just sitting there?
 
2012-07-10 04:30:22 PM  

Rwa2play: Really? Miami didn't act like it until they got the new stadium. Anaheim didn't act like one until they got the Fox Sports deal.


So you're saying they aren't major markets with a better ability to make money compared to small markets like KC?
 
2012-07-10 04:30:29 PM  

Mid_mo_mad_man: If Butler had hit 35+ home runs this year fark would still be mad that a Royal was being considered. If ESPN would let you see games besides Bos/NY you would relize there quietly building a solid team. A starting rotation is the last part of it


Has nothing to do with him being a Royal, it has to do with the fact that he is undeserving, and should not be included just by virtue of the fact that he is a Royal. Cano won the previous year, that was why he was captain, nothing to do with the fact that he was a Yankee.

As I asked earlier, explain why Ryan Braun should still be excluded, but Billy Butler included, using facts, and you will be able to convince me. Barring that, youse trolling.
 
2012-07-10 04:30:34 PM  

Mid_mo_mad_man: If Butler had hit 35+ home runs this year fark would still be mad that a Royal was being considered. If ESPN would let you see games besides Bos/NY you would relize there quietly building a solid team. A starting rotation is the last part of it


Bautista was there, do you think ESPN or any baseball fan outside of Toronto gives a crap about the Jays? Nobody had a problem with Bautista being there. And it would be the same for Butler if he had more than 16 dingers AND had hit more than 21 at least one other time before. He's not there yet.
 
2012-07-10 04:31:08 PM  

Rex_Banner: Marine1: Rex_Banner: Marine1: But *especially* the Yankees fans... right? Right?

No. Not at all. I NEVER said that. Nothing even CLOSE to that. And if Cano wasn't there, I would not have had a fit..

All I said was that Cano is a bigger star and a bigger draw than Butler. He has more appeal to a national audience. I don't see what's so hard to understand about that.

Guess what: people are gonna tune into that derby whether that Yankee f*cker is on that squad or not. Now, with that in mind, do you let the hometown guy on there when Cano is too tired to play? Yes. The hometown fans would have had a better time, the crowd would have seemed happier on TV, and the results would have probably been the same for the AL, or maybe a little better.

It's not that no one will watch with Butler, it's that LESS people would watch with Butler. Joe Fan is much more likely to flip it off and check something else while Billy Butler is batting than while Cano is batting.

And if you replace Cano with Hamilton or Cabrera, I'd say the same thing


No one's going to not watch it because Cano isn't there. If they like home runs, which everyone does, they'll watch.

Also, about this thing where it's for the audience at home... eh... it isn't really. It's for the fans at the stadium. That's why it's a big farking deal when the ALG comes to town. It happens once every few decades. The TV audience can see it on their screen anywhere every year. Don't pretend a television viewer means more than someone at the game itself, because they aren't more important. They're not a part of the community that's trying to put on the best show possible for the nation, putting a shiat ton of funding up on the civic level to make sure everything goes smoothly. Every city that hosts the ASG should get a spot on the HRD team. Period. It's the least you can do for the fans, especially in a place like KC, where there isn't much to cheer about.
 
2012-07-10 04:31:15 PM  

Wise_Guy: Mid_mo_mad_man: If Butler had hit 35+ home runs this year fark would still be mad that a Royal was being considered. If ESPN would let you see games besides Bos/NY you would relize there quietly building a solid team. A starting rotation is the last part of it

Yeah, there's a huge conspiracy to keep KC down.


It really is an unbelievable persecution complex they've got. If their owner doesn't care about winning, why should anybody outside of KC care?

And why would ESPN put a team that won't get ratings on their broadcast when their ad revenues are dictated by the number of viewers they get? It's a business, nobody would know that better than David Glass.
 
2012-07-10 04:31:22 PM  

Wise_Guy: Mid_mo_mad_man: If Butler had hit 35+ home runs this year fark would still be mad that a Royal was being considered. If ESPN would let you see games besides Bos/NY you would relize there quietly building a solid team. A starting rotation is the last part of it

Yeah, there's a huge conspiracy to keep KC down.


Never said that
 
2012-07-10 04:31:55 PM  
For the record, I'm trying to keep KC down
 
2012-07-10 04:32:16 PM  
I thought they were booing Chris Berman. That dude has no business calling baseball
 
2012-07-10 04:32:26 PM  
I'm SO trying to keep KC down.
 
2012-07-10 04:32:26 PM  

meanmutton: I'm confused -- are you saying that Cano is a bigger name nationally than Hamilton or Cabrera? Or are you saying that Billy Butler is less well known than Hamilton and Cabrera? Honestly, I'd say that Hamilton and Cabrera > Cano > Butler, but I have nothing to back that up with.


Hard to measure national recognition without a level of polling reserved for politics.
I will say though that Cano has at least one nationally-aired Nike commercial.
 
2012-07-10 04:33:05 PM  

Di Atribe: For the record, I'm trying to keep KC down


They're doing a fine job on their own.
 
2012-07-10 04:33:08 PM  

Di Atribe: For the record, I'm trying to keep KC down


robsul82: I'm SO trying to keep KC down.


You two pipe down about our shadowy junta to keep KC down.
 
2012-07-10 04:33:54 PM  

meanmutton: I'm confused -- are you saying that Cano is a bigger name nationally than Hamilton or Cabrera? Or are you saying that Billy Butler is less well known than Hamilton and Cabrera? Honestly, I'd say that Hamilton and Cabrera > Cano > Butler, but I have nothing to back that up with.


I could have worded that better. I'm saying that Cano, Hamilton and Cabrera are bigger names than Butler.

I'd say that Hamilton is the biggest name of the three and Cano and Cabby are roughly equal. I could see it going either way between the two.

/Of course, Cano was also the defending HRD champ and MLB handpicked him to participate
 
2012-07-10 04:33:58 PM  
The only reason they're booing him is because he insinuated he would pick Butler before he picked the team, and then didn't. Personally, it would have been extra classy for Matt Kemp to step aside due to injury and invite Butler in his place and damn the fact that he's in a different league.

And anyways, the Yankees have been long hated by Royals fans for poaching their talent like the Royals were the Yankees AAA farm team for decades
 
2012-07-10 04:34:43 PM  
Hi, I'm Killer Cars, and I'm a proud supporter of #keepKCdown
 
2012-07-10 04:36:19 PM  

Killer Cars: #keepKCdown


this needs to be a thing
 
2012-07-10 04:36:28 PM  

bhcompy: for poaching their talent like the Royals were the Yankees AAA farm team for decades


"Like the Royals were"?
 
2012-07-10 04:37:06 PM  

bhcompy: The only reason they're booing him is because he insinuated he would pick Butler before he picked the team, and then didn't. Personally, it would have been extra classy for Matt Kemp to step aside due to injury and invite Butler in his place and damn the fact that he's in a different league.

And anyways, the Yankees have been long hated by Royals fans for poaching their talent like the Royals were the Yankees AAA farm team for decades


Well, there's far more to it than that. The entire league does that and it could be fixed if Ass would be willing to spend some damned cash. The attitude of New York seems to be an encapsulation of the arrogant Noo Yawk attitude, which often disparages the "sticks" in the middle of the country... which Kansas City is more or less the cultural capital of.
 
2012-07-10 04:37:31 PM  

Marine1: Don't pretend a television viewer means more than someone at the game itself, because they aren't more important.


Except that they are, for a variety of reasons.

TV ad revenue dwarfs what teams get at the gate. There were 40,000 people in the stadium last night, which they knew would be the case LONG before the ASG rosters were announced. If ESPN got even ONE extra viewer from having Cano in the contest instead of Butler, from a financial perspective that decision made perfect sense.

The spectacle is for the host city, but where the game is played is largely irrelevant to the business of putting on a broadcast that'll be seen by millions of people across the country. Dems the breaks.
 
2012-07-10 04:37:40 PM  
food for thought:

what would've happened if the Royals kept Melky Cabrera this year?
 
2012-07-10 04:37:52 PM  

TheJoe03: Rwa2play: Really? Miami didn't act like it until they got the new stadium. Anaheim didn't act like one until they got the Fox Sports deal.

So you're saying they aren't major markets with a better ability to make money compared to small markets like KC?


If they were, they didn't act like one in FA and in-season trades.

IIRC, Miami's payroll between 2005-2011 was about the same size as A-Rod's contract during those years.

So yeah, Loria was a cheapskate bastard.
 
2012-07-10 04:38:50 PM  

Marine1: No one's going to not watch it because Cano isn't there.


For the millionth time: It's not about Cano. It's about "bigger draw than Butler". Lots of guys fit that category. Cano just happens to be the guy that MLB picked.

Marine1: Also, about this thing where it's for the audience at home... eh... it isn't really. It's for the fans at the stadium.


And we just disagree on this. That's fine. As I said in the other thread, if it is about the fans in the stadium and not the fans at home, Butler should have been there. I just don't think that's what it's about though.
 
2012-07-10 04:38:52 PM  

WTF Indeed: Di Atribe: For the record, I'm trying to keep KC down

robsul82: I'm SO trying to keep KC down.

You two pipe down about our shadowy junta to keep KC down.


We might just have to silence them now; they've said too much.
 
2012-07-10 04:39:29 PM  

The Bestest: Killer Cars: #keepKCdown

this needs to be a thing


Every time they lose, I want this trending on Twitter.


WTF Indeed: Di Atribe: For the record, I'm trying to keep KC down

robsul82: I'm SO trying to keep KC down.

You two pipe down about our shadowy junta to keep KC down.


The Rob-Di secret cabal is a secret no more. WE'VE BEEN FOUND OUT now we will be more powerful than ever!


/somehow
 
2012-07-10 04:40:22 PM  

Marine1: Every city that hosts the ASG should get a spot on the HRD team. Period. It's the least you can do for the fans, especially in a place like KC, where there isn't much to cheer about.


OK, I'm calling BS on you. If the HRD was hosted at Yankee Stadium you would not be insisting on a Yankee being on the team. In reality there'd most likely be a Yankee on the team anyway (Granderson or Cano, probably) but if they were all slumping that year and Bautista, Fielder, Hamilton and Dunn had 5 more HRs than anyone else, you'd be the first to scream bloody murder for a Yankee being put on the squad just because the game was in New York.
 
2012-07-10 04:40:33 PM  

Di Atribe: The Bestest: Killer Cars: #keepKCdown

this needs to be a thing

Every time they lose, I want this trending on Twitter.


I am so doing my part for this
 
2012-07-10 04:41:25 PM  

Yanks_RSJ: Marine1: Don't pretend a television viewer means more than someone at the game itself, because they aren't more important.

Except that they are, for a variety of reasons.

TV ad revenue dwarfs what teams get at the gate. There were 40,000 people in the stadium last night, which they knew would be the case LONG before the ASG rosters were announced. If ESPN got even ONE extra viewer from having Cano in the contest instead of Butler, from a financial perspective that decision made perfect sense.

The spectacle is for the host city, but where the game is played is largely irrelevant to the business of putting on a broadcast that'll be seen by millions of people across the country. Dems the breaks.


Millions would have tuned in regardless of Cano's status. Besides, how many viewers do you think flipped the channel after he started to pass gas in the wind?

/if you're watching it just for a certain player you're doing it wrong
//watch for everyone
///everyone should include the host city's player
 
2012-07-10 04:42:01 PM  

idesofmarch: Marine1: Every city that hosts the ASG should get a spot on the HRD team. Period. It's the least you can do for the fans, especially in a place like KC, where there isn't much to cheer about.

OK, I'm calling BS on you. If the HRD was hosted at Yankee Stadium you would not be insisting on a Yankee being on the team. In reality there'd most likely be a Yankee on the team anyway (Granderson or Cano, probably) but if they were all slumping that year and Bautista, Fielder, Hamilton and Dunn had 5 more HRs than anyone else, you'd be the first to scream bloody murder for a Yankee being put on the squad just because the game was in New York.


Next year's ASG is at CitiField. I fully expect him to be vocal about Met representation in the HRD.
 
2012-07-10 04:42:38 PM  

Di Atribe: IAmRight: Di Atribe: Disagrees

You only disagree because you started caring about baseball when the Rangers got competent. And even he thinks it sucks, which is why he declined to participate this year. =)

Excuse me? Fark you very much. That was out of line.


Don't worry about it. He only started caring about baseball when the Marlins bought a title.
 
2012-07-10 04:42:55 PM  

idesofmarch: Marine1: Every city that hosts the ASG should get a spot on the HRD team. Period. It's the least you can do for the fans, especially in a place like KC, where there isn't much to cheer about.

OK, I'm calling BS on you. If the HRD was hosted at Yankee Stadium you would not be insisting on a Yankee being on the team. In reality there'd most likely be a Yankee on the team anyway (Granderson or Cano, probably) but if they were all slumping that year and Bautista, Fielder, Hamilton and Dunn had 5 more HRs than anyone else, you'd be the first to scream bloody murder for a Yankee being put on the squad just because the game was in New York.


I would, too. If they host it, they should have a spot. I hate the Yankees but I want the same rules for them as I do for us.
 
2012-07-10 04:43:33 PM  

Yanks_RSJ: Marine1: Don't pretend a television viewer means more than someone at the game itself, because they aren't more important.

Except that they are, for a variety of reasons.

TV ad revenue dwarfs what teams get at the gate. There were 40,000 people in the stadium last night, which they knew would be the case LONG before the ASG rosters were announced. If ESPN got even ONE extra viewer from having Cano in the contest instead of Butler, from a financial perspective that decision made perfect sense.

The spectacle is for the host city, but where the game is played is largely irrelevant to the business of putting on a broadcast that'll be seen by millions of people across the country. Dems the breaks.


Don't forget the revenue sharing means that without higher earning teams, KC, Pittsburgh, and Tampa Bay at the very least would actually lose money every year. The Brewers are starting to pull themselves out, and hopefully, TV ratings stay high enough to warrant a fat check from Fox when their deal comes up for renewal.
 
2012-07-10 04:43:42 PM  
I have never said in this post that people are trying to keep KC down. Since 2006 with the hiring of GM Moore the Royals have been sinking a lot more money in the farm and building a solid farm system and it's starting to pay off. Perez, Moose, etc. Call Glass cheap but he's right KC is not market that can buy a team. This ASG is a once in a 40 year event. Would have harmed no giving Butler some love.
 
2012-07-10 04:43:56 PM  

The Bestest: Next year's ASG is at CitiField. I fully expect him to be vocal about Met representation in the HRD.


Oh that's going to be priceless. A home run derby in Citifield? The winner's going to be whoever manages to hit one.
 
2012-07-10 04:45:21 PM  

Mid_mo_mad_man: I have never said in this post that people are trying to keep KC down. Since 2006 with the hiring of GM Moore the Royals have been sinking a lot more money in the farm and building a solid farm system and it's starting to pay off. Perez, Moose, etc. Call Glass cheap but he's right KC is not market that can buy a team. This ASG is a once in a 40 year event. Would have harmed no giving Butler some love.


This.
 
2012-07-10 04:45:34 PM  

Marine1: Millions would have tuned in regardless of Cano's status. Besides, how many viewers do you think flipped the channel after he started to pass gas in the wind?


You don't want to hear what I'm saying, so I'm going to stop. This is a business, and unfortunately for you, there ARE people who tune in just for one hitter. By the numbers, it makes more sense for that hitter to be from a bigger market than KC.

But just to reiterate, you are wrong in saying that people in the stadium are more important than the TV audience. There is absolutely no truth to that for a national TV broadcast.
 
2012-07-10 04:46:26 PM  

Marine1: I hate the Yankees but I want the same rules for them as I do for us.


They *do* have the same rules. There's no guarantee of a roster spot in the HRD for the home team. If a Royal had the numbers, he'd have gotten a spot - end of story.
 
2012-07-10 04:47:06 PM  

Marine1: I hate the Yankees but I want the same rules for them as I do for us.


They do. You just don't like what those rules are.
 
2012-07-10 04:49:08 PM  

idesofmarch: Marine1: I hate the Yankees but I want the same rules for them as I do for us.

They *do* have the same rules. There's no guarantee of a roster spot in the HRD for the home team. If a Royal had the numbers, he'd have gotten a spot - end of story.


If that was true A Escobar would be an all star not farking jeter
 
2012-07-10 04:50:11 PM  

idesofmarch: The Bestest: Next year's ASG is at CitiField. I fully expect him to be vocal about Met representation in the HRD.

Oh that's going to be priceless. A home run derby in Citifield? The winner's going to be whoever manages to hit one.


Hope you're being sarcastic. They moved in the fences at CitiField this past offseason to make it more hitter-friendly.
 
2012-07-10 04:50:43 PM  

idesofmarch: Marine1: I hate the Yankees but I want the same rules for them as I do for us.

They *do* have the same rules. There's no guarantee of a roster spot in the HRD for the home team. If a Royal had the numbers, he'd have gotten a spot - end of story.


You mean like Billy Butler? You know, the guy who has more home runs than Prince Fielder.
 
2012-07-10 04:50:57 PM  

Marine1: Also, about this thing where it's for the audience at home... eh... it isn't really. It's for the fans at the stadium. That's why it's a big farking deal when the ALG comes to town. It happens once every few decades. The TV audience can see it on their screen anywhere every year. Don't pretend a television viewer means more than someone at the game itself, because they aren't more important. They're not a part of the community that's trying to put on the best show possible for the nation, putting a shiat ton of funding up on the civic level to make sure everything goes smoothly. Every city that hosts the ASG should get a spot on the HRD team. Period. It's the least you can do for the fans, especially in a place like KC, where there isn't much to cheer about.


Yeah, except only one player in the past six seasons has participated in the Derby at his home ballpark -- Albert Pujols in St. Louis in 2009.

Nobody whining about it until now.
 
2012-07-10 04:51:26 PM  

Yanks_RSJ: Marine1: Millions would have tuned in regardless of Cano's status. Besides, how many viewers do you think flipped the channel after he started to pass gas in the wind?

You don't want to hear what I'm saying, so I'm going to stop. This is a business, and unfortunately for you, there ARE people who tune in just for one hitter. By the numbers, it makes more sense for that hitter to be from a bigger market than KC.

But just to reiterate, you are wrong in saying that people in the stadium are more important than the TV audience. There is absolutely no truth to that for a national TV broadcast.


Typical Yankees fan.

"Let's sell out the soul of the game for some cash."

Baseball's lore is built around the hometown hero. The loyal player that stays in the good times and the bad. I know that's unfamiliar for the modern Yankees fan, but not every team is formed by hired guns. The idea that we should put cash above the fan experience is a cancer. Butler should have a spot, as should the player for each host city. Eventually, it'd become accepted fact. It wouldn't make that big of a difference to fans of the game. It'd make tons of difference to fandom whores.
 
2012-07-10 04:51:26 PM  

idesofmarch: The Bestest: Next year's ASG is at CitiField. I fully expect him to be vocal about Met representation in the HRD.

Oh that's going to be priceless. A home run derby in Citifield? The winner's going to be whoever manages to hit one.


Calling it now. Giancarlo Stanton edges out Asdrubal Cabrera, 3-2.

/Why is Asdrubal Cabrera in the home run derby? You'll find out.
 
2012-07-10 04:51:38 PM  

Mid_mo_mad_man: idesofmarch: Marine1: I hate the Yankees but I want the same rules for them as I do for us.

They *do* have the same rules. There's no guarantee of a roster spot in the HRD for the home team. If a Royal had the numbers, he'd have gotten a spot - end of story.

If that was true A Escobar would be an all star not farking jeter


You do realize that the HR Derby and the All Star game are two different things, right?
 
2012-07-10 04:51:40 PM  

Mid_mo_mad_man: If that was true A Escobar would be an all star not farking jeter


Statistically, it's a draw, don't act like it's some grave injustice. The fact that fans vote for the All-Star starters breaks the tie. Sorry, you should have stuffed the ballot boxes like the Giants did.
 
2012-07-10 04:52:25 PM  

Marine1: Typical Yankees fan.

"Let's sell out the soul of the game for some cash."

Baseball's lore is built around the hometown hero. The loyal player that stays in the good times and the bad. I know that's unfamiliar for the modern Yankees fan, but not every team is formed by hired guns. The idea that we should put cash above the fan experience is a cancer. Butler should have a spot, as should the player for each host city. Eventually, it'd become accepted fact. It wouldn't make that big of a difference to fans of the game. It'd make tons of difference to fandom whores.


Didn't you say in the other thread that you're not really much of a fan?
 
2012-07-10 04:52:33 PM  

Wise_Guy: Marine1: Also, about this thing where it's for the audience at home... eh... it isn't really. It's for the fans at the stadium. That's why it's a big farking deal when the ALG comes to town. It happens once every few decades. The TV audience can see it on their screen anywhere every year. Don't pretend a television viewer means more than someone at the game itself, because they aren't more important. They're not a part of the community that's trying to put on the best show possible for the nation, putting a shiat ton of funding up on the civic level to make sure everything goes smoothly. Every city that hosts the ASG should get a spot on the HRD team. Period. It's the least you can do for the fans, especially in a place like KC, where there isn't much to cheer about.

Yeah, except only one player in the past six seasons has participated in the Derby at his home ballpark -- Albert Pujols in St. Louis in 2009.

Nobody whining about it until now.


Arizona 2011 Upton
 
2012-07-10 04:52:36 PM  

Marine1: Yanks_RSJ: Marine1:***snip***

/if you're watching it just for a certain player you're doing it wrong
//watch for everyone
///everyone should include the host city's player


No.
No.
www.roadtrafficsigns.com
 
2012-07-10 04:52:40 PM  

Wise_Guy: Marine1: Also, about this thing where it's for the audience at home... eh... it isn't really. It's for the fans at the stadium. That's why it's a big farking deal when the ALG comes to town. It happens once every few decades. The TV audience can see it on their screen anywhere every year. Don't pretend a television viewer means more than someone at the game itself, because they aren't more important. They're not a part of the community that's trying to put on the best show possible for the nation, putting a shiat ton of funding up on the civic level to make sure everything goes smoothly. Every city that hosts the ASG should get a spot on the HRD team. Period. It's the least you can do for the fans, especially in a place like KC, where there isn't much to cheer about.

Yeah, except only one player in the past six seasons has participated in the Derby at his home ballpark -- Albert Pujols in St. Louis in 2009.

Nobody whining about it until now.


You were told this in the other thread: Arizona booed last year.

/incredible selective memory
 
2012-07-10 04:53:08 PM  

Mid_mo_mad_man: I have never said in this post that people are trying to keep KC down.


It's too late. Now we're all keeping KC down.
 
2012-07-10 04:53:35 PM  

Wise_Guy: Marine1: Typical Yankees fan.

"Let's sell out the soul of the game for some cash."

Baseball's lore is built around the hometown hero. The loyal player that stays in the good times and the bad. I know that's unfamiliar for the modern Yankees fan, but not every team is formed by hired guns. The idea that we should put cash above the fan experience is a cancer. Butler should have a spot, as should the player for each host city. Eventually, it'd become accepted fact. It wouldn't make that big of a difference to fans of the game. It'd make tons of difference to fandom whores.

Didn't you say in the other thread that you're not really much of a fan?


I'm a fan of baseball. I like the game. I dislike the Royals and dislike everyone else even more.
 
2012-07-10 04:53:53 PM  

Marine1: Baseball's lore is built around the hometown hero. The loyal player that stays in the good times and the bad.


Let's bring the reserve clause back so players can be indentured servants like in the olden days.
 
2012-07-10 04:54:04 PM  
static03.mediaite.com
 
2012-07-10 04:54:32 PM  

Marine1: Yanks_RSJ: Marine1: Millions would have tuned in regardless of Cano's status. Besides, how many viewers do you think flipped the channel after he started to pass gas in the wind?

You don't want to hear what I'm saying, so I'm going to stop. This is a business, and unfortunately for you, there ARE people who tune in just for one hitter. By the numbers, it makes more sense for that hitter to be from a bigger market than KC.

But just to reiterate, you are wrong in saying that people in the stadium are more important than the TV audience. There is absolutely no truth to that for a national TV broadcast.

Typical Yankees fan.

"Let's sell out the soul of the game for some cash."


I'm afraid you'll have to add the California (now Anaheim) Angels and the Houston Astros to that mix. They were as "guilty" of it as the Yankees were in the '70s/'80s.

Baseball's lore is built around the hometown hero. The loyal player that stays in the good times and the bad. I know that's unfamiliar for the modern Yankees fan,.

WOW! Derek Jeter says "EPIC FAIL, BRO!"
 
2012-07-10 04:54:42 PM  

Marine1: Baseball's lore is built around the hometown hero. The loyal player that stays in the good times and the bad. I know that's unfamiliar for the modern Yankees fan, but not every team is formed by hired guns. The idea that we should put cash above the fan experience is a cancer. Butler should have a spot, as should the player for each host city. Eventually, it'd become accepted fact. It wouldn't make that big of a difference to fans of the game. It'd make tons of difference to fandom whores.


Do you know which three players hold the record -in all of sports- for most consecutive years on the same team together?
 
2012-07-10 04:54:55 PM  

Marine1: You were told this in the other thread: Arizona booed last year.

/incredible selective memory


Boo'ed at the intros, not during the Derby, and sure as shiat didn't whine about the rules and the inherent injustices abound in the sacred institution known as the HR Derby.
 
2012-07-10 04:55:34 PM  

Marine1: /if you're watching it just for a certain player you're doing it wrong


I watched to see Trumbito hit Trumbombs. I was rewarded.
 
2012-07-10 04:56:38 PM  

Marine1: ///everyone should include the host city's player


I can tell you with full confidence that, if Seattle were hosting the All-Star game & festivities this year, there would be riots and the locals would burn down the Space Needle if Justin Smoak was included in the HR derby.
 
2012-07-10 04:56:57 PM  

bhcompy: idesofmarch: Marine1: I hate the Yankees but I want the same rules for them as I do for us.

They *do* have the same rules. There's no guarantee of a roster spot in the HRD for the home team. If a Royal had the numbers, he'd have gotten a spot - end of story.

You mean like Billy Butler? You know, the guy who has more home runs than Prince Fielder.


Guy who has 16 HR and never hit more than 21 in a season or guy who has 15, has won the HRD before, and was the youngest player to hit 50 in a season? Seriously?
 
2012-07-10 04:57:30 PM  

Marine1: You were told this in the other thread: Arizona booed last year.

/incredible selective memory


Show me where you suggested instituting a hometeam players clause before this season.
 
2012-07-10 04:57:52 PM  

idesofmarch: Marine1: I hate the Yankees but I want the same rules for them as I do for us.

They *do* have the same rules. There's no guarantee of a roster spot in the HRD for the home team. If a Royal had the numbers, he'd have gotten a spot - end of story.


And the rule is shiat.

Here's the deal: I think this bullshiat where we say "the host city doesn't matter" is just that, bullshiat. Instead of doing it for a few advertising dollars, let's do it for the good of the game, because since we started doing shiat for cash, Major League Baseball has become the laughing stock of American sports.
 
2012-07-10 04:58:58 PM  

roc6783: bhcompy: idesofmarch: Marine1: I hate the Yankees but I want the same rules for them as I do for us.

They *do* have the same rules. There's no guarantee of a roster spot in the HRD for the home team. If a Royal had the numbers, he'd have gotten a spot - end of story.

You mean like Billy Butler? You know, the guy who has more home runs than Prince Fielder.

Guy who has 16 HR and never hit more than 21 in a season or guy who has 15, has won the HRD before, and was the youngest player to hit 50 in a season? Seriously?


This year not what he did in the past.
 
2012-07-10 04:59:11 PM  

Marine1: idesofmarch: Marine1: I hate the Yankees but I want the same rules for them as I do for us.

They *do* have the same rules. There's no guarantee of a roster spot in the HRD for the home team. If a Royal had the numbers, he'd have gotten a spot - end of story.

And the rule is shiat.

Here's the deal: I think this bullshiat where we say "the host city doesn't matter" is just that, bullshiat. Instead of doing it for a few advertising dollars, let's do it for the good of the game, because since we started doing shiat for cash, Major League Baseball has become the laughing stock of American sports.


Really? I didn't see any stories about lockouts/strikes involving MLB in the last 5 years.
 
2012-07-10 04:59:12 PM  

bhcompy: I watched to see Trumbito hit Trumbombs.


When did John Sterling move to Anaheim?
 
2012-07-10 04:59:51 PM  

The Bestest: bhcompy: I watched to see Trumbito hit Trumbombs.

When did John Sterling move to Anaheim?


And if he did? He's all yours Anaheim!
 
2012-07-10 05:02:39 PM  

Rwa2play: The Bestest: bhcompy: I watched to see Trumbito hit Trumbombs.

When did John Sterling move to Anaheim?

And if he did? He's all yours Anaheim!


But that would mean.... Waldman in the booth by herself! DEAR GOD WHAT HAVE YOU DONE!?!?!?!?
 
2012-07-10 05:02:42 PM  
The funniest part about this whole thing that it shows once again how easy it is for the media to turn a minor story into a tempest in a teapot. It was obvious watching it last night that everyone was having fun with it. In numerous shots of the stadium, the fans (and not just Royals fans) were having fun with it and I never saw anyone go over the line. Butler was laughing about it. Cano was laughing about it. Once it was over, most people were content to laugh it off and move on to the game. The only people who were really mad were Yankees fans on Twitter (who no one cares about), Kevin Kietzman (who no one cares about) and the national media who were shocked SHOCKED that wholesome down-home Midwesterners would resort to just base, boorish behavior during one of the great sporting events of our nation's history. The media then proceeded to report over and over again how shocked they were just in case you didn't get the point.

And that led to today, with USA Today reporting on a 'riot' (headline since changed to 'scuffle') in the stands because a couple of drunk guys took swings at each other, New York media sniffing about the injustice of it all, and Boston writers laughing at them for being thin-skinned.
 
2012-07-10 05:03:20 PM  

Di Atribe: Mid_mo_mad_man: I have never said in this post that people are trying to keep KC down.

It's too late. Now we're all keeping KC down.


You'll never keep us down!
 
2012-07-10 05:03:32 PM  

Marine1: And the rule is shiat.

Here's the deal: I think this bullshiat where we say "the host city doesn't matter" is just that, bullshiat. Instead of doing it for a few advertising dollars, let's do it for the good of the game, because since we started doing shiat for cash, Major League Baseball has become the laughing stock of American sports.


Ok, from now on little league rules. Everyone gets to hit.

Grow up.
 
2012-07-10 05:03:40 PM  

Wise_Guy: Marine1: You were told this in the other thread: Arizona booed last year.

/incredible selective memory

Show me where you suggested instituting a hometeam players clause before this season.


It wasn't brought to my attention before this year. Again, I don't particularly care about Major League Baseball. It's a league where the dollar reigns. Alex Rodriguez should have been shown the door when he did steroids in Texas, not given a huge contract in New York. No player needs the money they pay them now. It's a game where you can cheat and no one cares, yet everyone says they're working hard to protect the game. The current situation is a shame to the game and what it could be. As a result, I don't usually pay attention to what happens there until it reaches Kansas City and I have no choice but to see it through social media and the like. I'd like to see it fixed, though. When it is, I'd pay attention again.
 
2012-07-10 05:04:21 PM  

Wise_Guy: Marine1: And the rule is shiat.

Here's the deal: I think this bullshiat where we say "the host city doesn't matter" is just that, bullshiat. Instead of doing it for a few advertising dollars, let's do it for the good of the game, because since we started doing shiat for cash, Major League Baseball has become the laughing stock of American sports.

Ok, from now on little league rules. Everyone gets to hit.

Grow up.


When did I say that?

shiat, you're bad at reading...
 
2012-07-10 05:04:37 PM  

Rex_Banner: Rwa2play: The Bestest: bhcompy: I watched to see Trumbito hit Trumbombs.

When did John Sterling move to Anaheim?

And if he did? He's all yours Anaheim!

But that would mean.... Waldman in the booth by herself! DEAR GOD WHAT HAVE YOU DONE!?!?!?!?


I wouldn't know because I'd rather listen to the opposing team's radio booth instead of the Yanks'.

Dear God they suck bad.
 
2012-07-10 05:05:06 PM  

Mid_mo_mad_man: roc6783: bhcompy: idesofmarch: Marine1: I hate the Yankees but I want the same rules for them as I do for us.

They *do* have the same rules. There's no guarantee of a roster spot in the HRD for the home team. If a Royal had the numbers, he'd have gotten a spot - end of story.

You mean like Billy Butler? You know, the guy who has more home runs than Prince Fielder.

Guy who has 16 HR and never hit more than 21 in a season or guy who has 15, has won the HRD before, and was the youngest player to hit 50 in a season? Seriously?

This year not what he did in the past.


So picking the guy is equally deserving, but has a better chance to win is not a good idea when you are the captain of a team trying to win? Nice logic there, Lou.
 
2012-07-10 05:05:13 PM  

Marine1: Alex Rodriguez should have been shown the door when he did steroids in Texas, not given a huge contract in New York.


A goddamned third of baseball juiced!

/Jesus!
 
2012-07-10 05:05:38 PM  

Mid_mo_mad_man: roc6783: bhcompy: idesofmarch: Marine1: I hate the Yankees but I want the same rules for them as I do for us.

They *do* have the same rules. There's no guarantee of a roster spot in the HRD for the home team. If a Royal had the numbers, he'd have gotten a spot - end of story.

You mean like Billy Butler? You know, the guy who has more home runs than Prince Fielder.

Guy who has 16 HR and never hit more than 21 in a season or guy who has 15, has won the HRD before, and was the youngest player to hit 50 in a season? Seriously?

This year not what he did in the past.


Indeed.

Rwa2play: The Bestest: bhcompy: I watched to see Trumbito hit Trumbombs.

When did John Sterling move to Anaheim?

And if he did? He's all yours Anaheim!


I'd rather have Phys and Hud back.

/they call Royals games now
//Hud still a crazy, stoned homer, though the Royals are one of the few teams he never played for
 
2012-07-10 05:05:58 PM  

roc6783: Guy who has 16 HR and never hit more than 21 in a season or guy who has 15, has won the HRD before, and was the youngest player to hit 50 in a season? Seriously?


I haven't read the entire comments section yet, can someone save me the time ... Has a single Yankees fan actually come out and agreed that it was a total douchebag move on Cano's part?

Because, damn, would I be disappointed in said Yankees fan.
 
2012-07-10 05:06:02 PM  

Dafatone: Marine1: Alex Rodriguez should have been shown the door when he did steroids in Texas, not given a huge contract in New York.

A goddamned third of baseball juiced!

/Jesus!


No shiat neither; at least a goddamed third.
 
2012-07-10 05:06:06 PM  

Mentat: The funniest part about this whole thing that it shows once again how easy it is for the media to turn a minor story into a tempest in a teapot. It was obvious watching it last night that everyone was having fun with it. In numerous shots of the stadium, the fans (and not just Royals fans) were having fun with it and I never saw anyone go over the line. Butler was laughing about it. Cano was laughing about it. Once it was over, most people were content to laugh it off and move on to the game. The only people who were really mad were Yankees fans on Twitter (who no one cares about), Kevin Kietzman (who no one cares about) and the national media who were shocked SHOCKED that wholesome down-home Midwesterners would resort to just base, boorish behavior during one of the great sporting events of our nation's history. The media then proceeded to report over and over again how shocked they were just in case you didn't get the point.

And that led to today, with USA Today reporting on a 'riot' (headline since changed to 'scuffle') in the stands because a couple of drunk guys took swings at each other, New York media sniffing about the injustice of it all, and Boston writers laughing at them for being thin-skinned.


That's quite the biased view you have.

All I see is a bunch of whiny hometown biatches complaining about how unfair it is they didn't get to see Cheese Omelet in a meaningless exhibition.
 
2012-07-10 05:07:02 PM  

Rex_Banner: But that would mean.... Waldman in the booth by herself! DEAR GOD WHAT HAVE YOU DONE!?!?!?!?


Baseball needs an announcer exchange program.
I'd listen to a Hawk Harrelson/Suzyn Waldman booth once (and only once) for the hilarity.
 
2012-07-10 05:07:47 PM  

Marine1: It wasn't brought to my attention before this year. Again, I don't particularly care about Major League Baseball. It's a league where the dollar reigns. Alex Rodriguez should have been shown the door when he did steroids in Texas, not given a huge contract in New York. No player needs the money they pay them now. It's a game where you can cheat and no one cares, yet everyone says they're working hard to protect the game. The current situation is a shame to the game and what it could be. As a result, I don't usually pay attention to what happens there until it reaches Kansas City and I have no choice but to see it through social media and the like. I'd like to see it fixed, though. When it is, I'd pay attention again.


But it's the Yankees fans who don't know anything outside of their team.

You lose.
 
2012-07-10 05:08:19 PM  

The Bestest: Rex_Banner: But that would mean.... Waldman in the booth by herself! DEAR GOD WHAT HAVE YOU DONE!?!?!?!?

Baseball needs an announcer exchange program.
I'd listen to a Hawk Harrelson/Suzyn Waldman booth once (and only once) for the hilarity.


THIS!THIS!THIS!THIS!THIS!THIS!

Now THAT I'd tune in to.
 
2012-07-10 05:08:25 PM  
No, Robby. You got booed because you promised to put Billy Butler in the derby and then put Trumbo in instead.

Could you have said no to Bautista, the home run leader this year? Nope.
Could you have said no to Fielder, the guy who ended up winning, and is only doing poorly because he's in a pitcher's park? No
Could you have said no to Trumbo, the guy who you thought was awesome in BP? Maybe.
Did more people say no to you that definitely deserved to be there? Yes.

So given all of those answers:
Did you belong saying Billy Butler could be included when you already knew you probably weren't going to include him, and probably couldn't have even if you wanted to??
No?
Well, that's why you got booed, farktard.
 
2012-07-10 05:09:02 PM  

Marine1: Wise_Guy: Marine1: And the rule is shiat.

Here's the deal: I think this bullshiat where we say "the host city doesn't matter" is just that, bullshiat. Instead of doing it for a few advertising dollars, let's do it for the good of the game, because since we started doing shiat for cash, Major League Baseball has become the laughing stock of American sports.

Ok, from now on little league rules. Everyone gets to hit.

Grow up.

When did I say that?

shiat, you're bad at reading...


But wouldn't everyone batting be good for the game??

You lose again.
 
2012-07-10 05:09:25 PM  
 
2012-07-10 05:09:44 PM  

Wise_Guy: All I see is a bunch of whiny hometown biatches complaining about how unfair it is they didn't get to see Cheese Omelet in a meaningless exhibition.


It's funny how on the one hand, it's a meaningless exhibition, yet on the other hand, it's so goddamn important for Cano to pick Fielder to help his team win.

I mean, seriously, if it's meaningless, why NOT pick Butler??
 
2012-07-10 05:09:51 PM  

Marine1: Again, I don't particularly care about Major League Baseball. It's a league where the dollar reigns.


You haven't been officially introduced to other professional leagues, have you?
 
2012-07-10 05:09:52 PM  

Dafatone: Marine1: Alex Rodriguez should have been shown the door when he did steroids in Texas, not given a huge contract in New York.

A goddamned third of baseball juiced!

/Jesus!


Then throw them out. This is baseball, not cycling... there are rules.
 
2012-07-10 05:10:16 PM  

FriarReb98: Did you belong saying Billy Butler could be included when you already knew you probably weren't going to include him, and probably couldn't have even if you wanted to??
No?
Well, that's why you got booed, farktard.


You shouldn't call anyone else a farktard after constructing a sentence like that.
 
2012-07-10 05:10:17 PM  

Marine1: It's a league where the dollar reigns.


Which makes it exactly the same as the NFL, NBA, NHL, MLS, EPL, La Liga, Serie A, Bundesliga and every other professional sports league in the entire world.
 
2012-07-10 05:10:28 PM  

Killer Cars: Marine1: Again, I don't particularly care about Major League Baseball. It's a league where the dollar reigns.

You haven't been officially introduced to other professional leagues, have you?


Personally, I like the MLS.

/*ducks*
 
2012-07-10 05:10:32 PM  
Well I guess us cornfed KC hicks should just be grateful we get the scraps from the Yankees table. How dare we boo are betters
 
2012-07-10 05:10:58 PM  

Slow To Return: Wise_Guy: All I see is a bunch of whiny hometown biatches complaining about how unfair it is they didn't get to see Cheese Omelet in a meaningless exhibition.

It's funny how on the one hand, it's a meaningless exhibition, yet on the other hand, it's so goddamn important for Cano to pick Fielder to help his team win.

I mean, seriously, if it's meaningless, why NOT pick Butler??


Because he can pick whoever the fark he wants.

Christ.
 
2012-07-10 05:12:19 PM  

WTF Indeed: Bud Selig has already said he will change the rules so the butthurt KC fans will get Billy Butler in the Home Run Derby when it comes back to KC in 30 years.


This is what's wrong with this country.
 
2012-07-10 05:12:42 PM  

Wise_Guy: Slow To Return: Wise_Guy: All I see is a bunch of whiny hometown biatches complaining about how unfair it is they didn't get to see Cheese Omelet in a meaningless exhibition.

It's funny how on the one hand, it's a meaningless exhibition, yet on the other hand, it's so goddamn important for Cano to pick Fielder to help his team win.

I mean, seriously, if it's meaningless, why NOT pick Butler??

Because he can pick whoever the fark he wants.

Christ.


Well if you know, as a captain, that your performance is going to be shiat (as it would be after an exhausting pre-All Star schedule like Cano had), why would you do that to yourself?
 
2012-07-10 05:13:25 PM  

Marine1: Dafatone: Marine1: Alex Rodriguez should have been shown the door when he did steroids in Texas, not given a huge contract in New York.

A goddamned third of baseball juiced!

/Jesus!

Then throw them out. This is baseball, not cycling... there are rules.


And the rules don't say you get thrown out.

Now, if you want to suspend a whole slew of guys 50 games for violations that occurred before the 50 game suspension rule was put into place, that'd be silly, but you'd at least be on the right track.
 
2012-07-10 05:13:47 PM  

Marine1: Wise_Guy: Slow To Return: Wise_Guy: All I see is a bunch of whiny hometown biatches complaining about how unfair it is they didn't get to see Cheese Omelet in a meaningless exhibition.

It's funny how on the one hand, it's a meaningless exhibition, yet on the other hand, it's so goddamn important for Cano to pick Fielder to help his team win.

I mean, seriously, if it's meaningless, why NOT pick Butler??

Because he can pick whoever the fark he wants.

Christ.

Well if you know, as a captain, that your performance is going to be shiat (as it would be after an exhausting pre-All Star schedule like Cano had), why would you do that to yourself?


Obviously he's part of the big 'keep KC down' conspiracy.
 
2012-07-10 05:14:00 PM  

Wise_Guy: Because he can pick whoever the fark he wants.


YES! EXACTLY! EXACTLY!!

And he chose to go the douchebag route.

In the end, not really a big deal. But it still makes him a douchebag.
 
2012-07-10 05:14:10 PM  

Wise_Guy: That's quite the biased view you have.

All I see is a bunch of whiny hometown biatches complaining about how unfair it is they didn't get to see Cheese Omelet in a meaningless exhibition.


If that's all you see, then you aren't looking very hard.

The whole thing is silly. The only reason Butler is at the ASG is because the Royals had to have a representative. That's their fault. Cano shouldn't have said anything about putting a KC player in the HRD. That was his fault. In the end, it was a humorous moment that hurt no one and would be largely forgotten today if the media hadn't needed a story to spice things up a bit. I'm sorry if Royals fans are too hardcore for you with their booing and their passion for BBQ, but again, you can always watch tennis.
 
2012-07-10 05:15:28 PM  

Dafatone: Marine1: Dafatone: Marine1: Alex Rodriguez should have been shown the door when he did steroids in Texas, not given a huge contract in New York.

A goddamned third of baseball juiced!

/Jesus!

Then throw them out. This is baseball, not cycling... there are rules.

And the rules don't say you get thrown out.

Now, if you want to suspend a whole slew of guys 50 games for violations that occurred before the 50 game suspension rule was put into place, that'd be silly, but you'd at least be on the right track.


You throw the game, you get thrown. You bet on the game, you get thrown. You modify the players who play the game and thus change the outcome in your favor... you stay?

Sounds like a stupid farking rule to me.

Sometimes doing the right thing means doing more than the bare minimum, which in this case, means the rules.
 
2012-07-10 05:16:06 PM  

Wise_Guy: FriarReb98: Did you belong saying Billy Butler could be included when you already knew you probably weren't going to include him, and probably couldn't have even if you wanted to??
No?
Well, that's why you got booed, farktard.

You shouldn't call anyone else a farktard after constructing a sentence like that.


Thank you Grammar Nazi! SIEG HEIL!
 
2012-07-10 05:16:10 PM  

Mentat: I'm sorry if Royals fans are too hardcore for you with their booing and their passion for BBQ,


Well then there's the problem. If Royals' fans took their baseball as seriously as their BBQ, the Royals would be the Pirates at this point.
 
2012-07-10 05:16:54 PM  

Slow To Return: Wise_Guy: Because he can pick whoever the fark he wants.

YES! EXACTLY! EXACTLY!!

And he chose to go the douchebag route.

In the end, not really a big deal. But it still makes him a douchebag.


So A) five of the last six HR derby captains were also douchebags, or

B) KC is full of whiny douchebags
 
2012-07-10 05:17:01 PM  

Marine1: Dafatone: Marine1: Dafatone: Marine1: Alex Rodriguez should have been shown the door when he did steroids in Texas, not given a huge contract in New York.

A goddamned third of baseball juiced!

/Jesus!

Then throw them out. This is baseball, not cycling... there are rules.

And the rules don't say you get thrown out.

Now, if you want to suspend a whole slew of guys 50 games for violations that occurred before the 50 game suspension rule was put into place, that'd be silly, but you'd at least be on the right track.

You throw the game, you get thrown. You bet on the game, you get thrown. You modify the players who play the game and thus change the outcome in your favor... you stay?

Sounds like a stupid farking rule to me.

Sometimes doing the right thing means doing more than the bare minimum, which in this case, means the rules.


Alright. So when a guy gets caught with a corked bat, he's out of baseball? Or, all those guys who were on amphetamines in the 70s, out of baseball?

We're removing Gaylord Perry from the HoF for spitballing, right?
 
2012-07-10 05:17:48 PM  

FriarReb98: Wise_Guy: FriarReb98: Did you belong saying Billy Butler could be included when you already knew you probably weren't going to include him, and probably couldn't have even if you wanted to??
No?
Well, that's why you got booed, farktard.

You shouldn't call anyone else a farktard after constructing a sentence like that.

Thank you Grammar Nazi! SIEG HEIL!


C'mon, I was expecting better there.
 
2012-07-10 05:18:18 PM  

Dafatone: Marine1: Dafatone: Marine1: Dafatone: Marine1: Alex Rodriguez should have been shown the door when he did steroids in Texas, not given a huge contract in New York.

A goddamned third of baseball juiced!

/Jesus!

Then throw them out. This is baseball, not cycling... there are rules.

And the rules don't say you get thrown out.

Now, if you want to suspend a whole slew of guys 50 games for violations that occurred before the 50 game suspension rule was put into place, that'd be silly, but you'd at least be on the right track.

You throw the game, you get thrown. You bet on the game, you get thrown. You modify the players who play the game and thus change the outcome in your favor... you stay?

Sounds like a stupid farking rule to me.

Sometimes doing the right thing means doing more than the bare minimum, which in this case, means the rules.

Alright. So when a guy gets caught with a corked bat, he's out of baseball? Or, all those guys who were on amphetamines in the 70s, out of baseball?

We're removing Gaylord Perry from the HoF for spitballing, right?


Personally, I don't really see why not. That kind of shiat would ruin you in any other career.
 
2012-07-10 05:18:56 PM  

Slow To Return: roc6783: Guy who has 16 HR and never hit more than 21 in a season or guy who has 15, has won the HRD before, and was the youngest player to hit 50 in a season? Seriously?

I haven't read the entire comments section yet, can someone save me the time ... Has a single Yankees fan actually come out and agreed that it was a total douchebag move on Cano's part?

Because, damn, would I be disappointed in said Yankees fan.


1. Not a Yankee fan by LONG LONG shot.
2. Butler did NOT deserve to be there based on his numbers
3. I get that MLB wants people to watch so they require 1 rep from every team, but to think that the host team DESERVES a player in the HRD, no matter the stats, is ridiculous.
4. The DH is the worst thing to ever happen to baseball. It's not real, get rid of it. If your pansy assed pitcher can't be bothered to hit, then he shouldn't call himself a ball player.
 
2012-07-10 05:19:10 PM  

Wise_Guy: Slow To Return: Wise_Guy: Because he can pick whoever the fark he wants.

YES! EXACTLY! EXACTLY!!

And he chose to go the douchebag route.

In the end, not really a big deal. But it still makes him a douchebag.

So A) five of the last six HR derby captains were also douchebags, or

B) KC is full of whiny douchebags


C) Kansas City trolled the hell out of New York and the national sports media
 
2012-07-10 05:19:44 PM  

Mentat: Wise_Guy: That's quite the biased view you have.

All I see is a bunch of whiny hometown biatches complaining about how unfair it is they didn't get to see Cheese Omelet in a meaningless exhibition.

If that's all you see, then you aren't looking very hard.

The whole thing is silly. The only reason Butler is at the ASG is because the Royals had to have a representative. That's their fault. Cano shouldn't have said anything about putting a KC player in the HRD. That was his fault. In the end, it was a humorous moment that hurt no one and would be largely forgotten today if the media hadn't needed a story to spice things up a bit. I'm sorry if Royals fans are too hardcore for you with their booing and their passion for BBQ, but again, you can always watch tennis.


I might switch over as long as they require a local player to compete in all Grand Slam events.
 
2012-07-10 05:20:45 PM  

Mentat: Wise_Guy: Slow To Return: Wise_Guy: Because he can pick whoever the fark he wants.

YES! EXACTLY! EXACTLY!!

And he chose to go the douchebag route.

In the end, not really a big deal. But it still makes him a douchebag.

So A) five of the last six HR derby captains were also douchebags, or

B) KC is full of whiny douchebags

C) Kansas City trolled the hell out of New York and the national sports media


From what I've seen represented here, you guys aren't that clever.

I'm going with B.
 
2012-07-10 05:21:19 PM  

Mentat: the national media who were shocked SHOCKED that wholesome down-home Midwesterners would resort to just base, boorish behavior during one of the great sporting events of our nation's history.


Yeah! That's NYers' jobs!


Marine1: It's a league where the dollar reigns.


Oooh you're right. We should shun MLB for another league where pure love of the sport is top dog and the almighty dollar does not reign! Now which league would that be?


Wise_Guy: Obviously he's part of the big 'keep KC down' conspiracy.


We're basically the Illuminati
 
2012-07-10 05:21:26 PM  

Wise_Guy: Slow To Return: Wise_Guy: Because he can pick whoever the fark he wants.

YES! EXACTLY! EXACTLY!!

And he chose to go the douchebag route.

In the end, not really a big deal. But it still makes him a douchebag.

So A) five of the last six HR derby captains were also douchebags, or

B) KC is full of whiny douchebags


Oh oh I know this one!!!
 
2012-07-10 05:22:03 PM  

roc6783: Slow To Return: roc6783: Guy who has 16 HR and never hit more than 21 in a season or guy who has 15, has won the HRD before, and was the youngest player to hit 50 in a season? Seriously?

I haven't read the entire comments section yet, can someone save me the time ... Has a single Yankees fan actually come out and agreed that it was a total douchebag move on Cano's part?

Because, damn, would I be disappointed in said Yankees fan.

1. Not a Yankee fan by LONG LONG shot.
2. Butler did NOT deserve to be there based on his numbers
3. I get that MLB wants people to watch so they require 1 rep from every team, but to think that the host team DESERVES a player in the HRD, no matter the stats, is ridiculous.
4. The DH is the worst thing to ever happen to baseball. It's not real, get rid of it. If your pansy assed pitcher can't be bothered to hit, then he shouldn't call himself a ball player.


Ugh, how in the world did I quote you when I posted that? That was a post that was intended to stand on its own... Sorry about that.
 
2012-07-10 05:23:50 PM  

Wise_Guy: From what I've seen represented here, you guys aren't that clever.

I'm going with B.


And yet, we're still talking about it. Go fig.
 
2012-07-10 05:25:23 PM  

WTF Indeed: Bud Selig has already said he will change the rules so the butthurt KC fans will get Billy Butler in the Home Run Derby when it comes back to KC in 30 years.


Okay, hypothetical: Would that be a contract incentive to someone who may or may not be a part of the Mets next year to say "hey, you're the obvious choice, stay here & be in the All Star Derby"?
 
2012-07-10 05:25:37 PM  

Slow To Return: roc6783: Slow To Return: roc6783: ***snip***

Ugh, how in the world did I quote you when I posted that? That was a post that was intended to stand on its own... Sorry about that.


Then I will amend my opinion of you to butthurt whiner who supports a team that plays pansy-ball and drop the illiterate douche part ;)
 
2012-07-10 05:25:56 PM  

roc6783: 2. Butler did NOT deserve to be there based on his numbers


Butler has more homers than Fielder. So yes he does. If you want to take career in to count, Fielder still doesn't belong there because Thome, ARod, Jones, Konerko, Teixiera, Beltre, Hunter, Pena, etc all have more homeruns in their career(and are currently in the AL) than Fielder. Why aren't they there?
 
2012-07-10 05:26:02 PM  

Wise_Guy: I'm going with B.


Well, I DO understand why Yankees fans would be confused as to why people think Cano's "normal behavior" is douchebaggery.
 
2012-07-10 05:27:29 PM  

roc6783: Then I will amend my opinion of you to butthurt whiner who supports a team that plays pansy-ball and drop the illiterate douche part ;)


Meh, I live in Allen, TX. I'm a Rangers fan through and through, and I don't give two shiats about Billy Butler.
 
2012-07-10 05:27:47 PM  

Wise_Guy: FriarReb98: Wise_Guy: FriarReb98: Did you belong saying Billy Butler could be included when you already knew you probably weren't going to include him, and probably couldn't have even if you wanted to??
No?
Well, that's why you got booed, farktard.

You shouldn't call anyone else a farktard after constructing a sentence like that.

Thank you Grammar Nazi! SIEG HEIL!

C'mon, I was expecting better there.


Funny, I don't expect better from you. Probably why you were one of the first people I ever put on the ignore list. Thanks for reminding me why I did it!

\and I didn't *give* you better because you chose to go Grammar Nazi rather than try to actually prove me wrong
 
2012-07-10 05:28:33 PM  

Slow To Return: roc6783: Then I will amend my opinion of you to butthurt whiner who supports a team that plays pansy-ball and drop the illiterate douche part ;)

Meh, I live in Allen, TX. I'm a Rangers fan through and through, and I don't give two shiats about Billy Butler.


So? Then my opinion of you still stands...
 
2012-07-10 05:31:56 PM  

roc6783: Slow To Return: roc6783: Then I will amend my opinion of you to butthurt whiner who supports a team that plays pansy-ball and drop the illiterate douche part ;)

Meh, I live in Allen, TX. I'm a Rangers fan through and through, and I don't give two shiats about Billy Butler.

So? Then my opinion of you still stands...


You know what would be funny? If Wash starts Cano for the first inning, then pulls him for Kinsler in the second, and lets Kinsler finish out the game.

That wouldn't be a douchebag move, now would it?

PS - Why do you think I care about your opinion of me? You've mentioned it like three times now....
 
2012-07-10 05:33:13 PM  

FriarReb98: rather than try to actually prove me wrong


Well, since your main point isn't provable, I'm not sure why he, or anyone, would bother trying to disprove it.
 
2012-07-10 05:33:32 PM  
I can't wait for the next episode of Ken Burns' Baseball.

"Like a tornado whipping through a Missouri trailer park, the boo's swept through Kaufman Stadium. Yankees legend Robinson Cano, captain of the 2012 Home Run Derby, failed to select local flash-in-the-pan Billy Butler, igniting what is now referred to simply as The Bumpkin Slight. The rules of the Derby would forever be changed, so that the host team, no matter how awful, will still have a representative at the Derby. In 2014 the Derby was abandoned."
 
2012-07-10 05:33:59 PM  

Slow To Return: If Wash starts Cano for the first inning, then pulls him for Kinsler in the second, and lets Kinsler finish out the game.


Might as well pull Jeter for Andrus while we're at it.
 
2012-07-10 05:34:15 PM  

Slow To Return: You know what would be funny? If Wash starts Cano for the first inning, then pulls him for Kinsler in the second, and lets Kinsler finish out the game.

That wouldn't be a douchebag move, now would it?


Assuming Cano leaves the game perfectly healthy, I couldn't care less.
 
2012-07-10 05:35:14 PM  

Slow To Return: Slow To Return: If Wash starts Cano for the first inning, then pulls him for Kinsler in the second, and lets Kinsler finish out the game.

Might as well pull Jeter for Andrus while we're at it.


Again, fine with me.
 
2012-07-10 05:35:17 PM  

FriarReb98: Wise_Guy: FriarReb98: Wise_Guy: FriarReb98: Did you belong saying Billy Butler could be included when you already knew you probably weren't going to include him, and probably couldn't have even if you wanted to??
No?
Well, that's why you got booed, farktard.

You shouldn't call anyone else a farktard after constructing a sentence like that.

Thank you Grammar Nazi! SIEG HEIL!

C'mon, I was expecting better there.

Funny, I don't expect better from you. Probably why you were one of the first people I ever put on the ignore list. Thanks for reminding me why I did it!

\and I didn't *give* you better because you chose to go Grammar Nazi rather than try to actually prove me wrong


Wow-- never knew you were so sensitive.

See ya.
 
2012-07-10 05:36:04 PM  

Rwa2play: idesofmarch: The Bestest: Next year's ASG is at CitiField. I fully expect him to be vocal about Met representation in the HRD.

Oh that's going to be priceless. A home run derby in Citifield? The winner's going to be whoever manages to hit one.

Hope you're being sarcastic. They moved in the fences at CitiField this past offseason to make it more hitter-friendly.


I was being sarcastic, I'm sure it's an improvement, but would anybody really say that CitiField is drastically more HR-friendly than it used to be?

The Bestest: bhcompy: I watched to see Trumbito hit Trumbombs.

When did John Sterling move to Anaheim?


Oh man, I can see Sterling punching through a straw hat at not being the one to come up with that. That said, I LOVE "Trumbombs" - been a big fan of Trumbo since I added him to my fantasy team.

Dafatone: And the rules don't say you get thrown out.

Now, if you want to suspend a whole slew of guys 50 games for violations that occurred before the 50 game suspension rule was put into place, that'd be silly, but you'd at least be on the right track.


OH SNAP!
 
2012-07-10 05:36:26 PM  

Slow To Return: Slow To Return: If Wash starts Cano for the first inning, then pulls him for Kinsler in the second, and lets Kinsler finish out the game.

Might as well pull Jeter for Andrus while we're at it.


I'm down for both those moves. In fact, don't play them at all.

Some of us have a playoff run to think about.
 
2012-07-10 05:36:34 PM  
If KC fans boo Cano and the Yankee players they will just show that they are classless assholes, who whine like 12 year old girls when daddy won't buy them a pony. But they really wanted that pony and daddy didn't get them one so now they hate daddy.
 
2012-07-10 05:37:13 PM  

FriarReb98: WTF Indeed: Bud Selig has already said he will change the rules so the butthurt KC fans will get Billy Butler in the Home Run Derby when it comes back to KC in 30 years.

Okay, hypothetical: Would that be a contract incentive to someone who may or may not be a part of the Mets next year to say "hey, you're the obvious choice, stay here & be in the All Star Derby"?


Pretty sure he's been in one already. Didn't they decide that non allstars could be in the derby?

Give me some Ike Davis. Or better yet, let Ike have an allstar year next year.
 
2012-07-10 05:38:34 PM  

Wise_Guy: Some of us have a playoff run to think about.


ARod gonna make it three in a row this year?
 
2012-07-10 05:42:55 PM  

IAmRight: The Muthaship: You poor, long suffering Yankee fans. However will you cope? A grown man who plays a child's game for a living got booed by the fans of a rival team! The horror.

I don't think anyone who roots for the Yankees gives a crap, except to laugh at how lame Royals fans are.


I think it's safe to assume you've never been to a game at Kauffman Stadium. If you had, you'd know that the Royals have one of the most intelligent, loyal, die-hard fanbases in baseball & wouldn't make a remark falunting how uninformed you are.

Lawd, did I really just whiteknight Royal fans?

Dafatone: room at the top: Dafatone: ...I'm not saying Cano's a top shiatter. But there's nobody close to Cano's offense at 2b. Not consistently.


I think you're wrong. Last night Cano proved he's a shiatter of the highest order. He totally shiat the bed with damned near the whole nation watching.
 
2012-07-10 05:44:04 PM  

Slow To Return: Wise_Guy: Some of us have a playoff run to think about.

ARod gonna make it three in a row this year?


He's due. Let's just leave it there.
 
2012-07-10 05:47:36 PM  

4NTLRZ: Dafatone: room at the top: Dafatone: ...I'm not saying Cano's a top shiatter. But there's nobody close to Cano's offense at 2b. Not consistently.

I think you're wrong. Last night Cano proved he's a shiatter of the highest order. He totally shiat the bed with damned near the whole nation watching


Jason Bay and Mike Piazza have done the same thing. And one of those guys doesn't suck!
 
2012-07-10 05:49:20 PM  
Ya know what? I hope Cano completes the heel turn tonight. He shows up with Chris Chamblis as his manager. He rips up a little kid's autograph book. He sneaks up on Billy Butler and hits with with a steel chair. Then he places George Brett in the figure four leg lock. Meanwhile, the other Yankee All-Stars can beat up the faces that try to come in and break it up.
 
2012-07-10 05:52:02 PM  

bhcompy: roc6783: 2. Butler did NOT deserve to be there based on his numbers

Butler has more homers than Fielder. So yes he does. If you want to take career in to count, Fielder still doesn't belong there because Thome, ARod, Jones, Konerko, Teixiera, Beltre, Hunter, Pena, etc all have more homeruns in their career(and are currently in the AL) than Fielder. Why aren't they there?


1. 1 HR difference isn't a big deal. If you notice when I was explaining the Weeks over Upton selection, it was due to 1 HR AND the fact that Fielder and Weeks have been friends since Little League.

2. Thome - 5, indefensible - Not an All Star
A-Rod - 13, bigger differential and has not been in an HRD recently - Not an All Star
Jones (I assume you mean Adam from the Orioles) - 20, would have been a better choice, but we would have missed his rib eating and that was worth it from my perspective
Konerko - 14, bigger differential and has not been in an HRD recently
Teixiera - 15, would have been fine - Not an All Star
Beltre - 15, would have been fine
Hunter - 10, indefensible - Not an All Star
Pena - 13, bigger differential and has not been in an HRD recently - Not an All Star
 
2012-07-10 05:56:10 PM  

Rwa2play: meanmutton: So they should have chosen Butler over Prince but Miggy Cabrerra over Butler? Either way, a Tiger gets in and KC fans lose out -- which has to chaff particularly after the series this week.

Oh yeah, about the 2011 version of the Home Run derby. Let's take a look at the contestants shall we?

Rickie Weeks, MIL
Matt Kemp, LAD
Robinson Cano, NYY
Jose Bautista, TOR
Adrian Gonzalez, BOS
Matt Holliday, STL
Prince Fielder, MIL
David Ortiz, BOS

Would you look at that! Not ONE of them is an Arizona Diamondback; and I don't recall D-Back fans making a stink out of it. Especially when Justin Upton would've been one of them considering the towering HRs he hits.


From ESPN:

"Last year's National League captain, Prince Fielder, received similar treatment in Phoenix for not picking Arizona Diamondbacks outfielder Justin Upton."

Nice try sparky.
 
2012-07-10 05:57:31 PM  

Slow To Return: roc6783: Slow To Return: roc6783: Then I will amend my opinion of you to butthurt whiner who supports a team that plays pansy-ball and drop the illiterate douche part ;)

Meh, I live in Allen, TX. I'm a Rangers fan through and through, and I don't give two shiats about Billy Butler.

So? Then my opinion of you still stands...

You know what would be funny? If Wash starts Cano for the first inning, then pulls him for Kinsler in the second, and lets Kinsler finish out the game.

That wouldn't be a douchebag move, now would it?

PS - Why do you think I care about your opinion of me? You've mentioned it like three times now....


Not if he thought those guys would give him a better chance to win.

PS - I don't, I was making a joke, but apparently it sucked.
 
2012-07-10 06:05:07 PM  

Lt. Cheese Weasel: Di Atribe: IAmRight: Di Atribe: Disagrees

You only disagree because you started caring about baseball when the Rangers got competent. And even he thinks it sucks, which is why he declined to participate this year. =)

Excuse me? Fark you very much. That was out of line.

No Di he's right. Since we've only been watching/supporting Rangers baseball for 40 years, we're bandwagonners.
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As a (previous) long-time resident of DFW, the Rangers didn't seem to have much of a fanbase until about 1990. That lasted for about a dozen years and then I didn't see many jerseys walking around again until about 2010.
 
2012-07-10 06:05:59 PM  
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2012-07-10 06:36:36 PM  
Should they have booed Cano? Absolutely, he didn't give them the show they wanted. They should have booed Kemp too, because WTF was he doing there anyway. And Bautista because he managed to screw up BP. And the rest of the NL guys for sucking. It's an exhibition. Who actually cares if they boo? Should they have let Butler hit? Why not! Let everyone who wants to go take their cuts. Put live mikes on every contestant with bonuses for the most inventive cussing. You have to chug a beer every time you hit a ball that one of the kids catches on the fly. Once per round, the next guy in the order gets to fire a ball at your groin. Grab some fat guy from a beer league in Overland Park and let him smack it off a tee. You still wouldn't be diminishing the dignity of a freaking home run derby. Anything to make this more exciting than watching Bautista watch BP pitches go by for ten minutes. The problem with this mess is that now Selig is going to determine that the Home Run Derby should matter too, mostly because ESPN is telling him it does. He's already ruined the World Series because someone actually cared the 2002 game finished in a tie.

#keepingKCdown
 
2012-07-10 06:37:03 PM  

Moopy Mac: Lt. Cheese Weasel: Di Atribe: IAmRight: Di Atribe: Disagrees

You only disagree because you started caring about baseball when the Rangers got competent. And even he thinks it sucks, which is why he declined to participate this year. =)

Excuse me? Fark you very much. That was out of line.

No Di he's right. Since we've only been watching/supporting Rangers baseball for 40 years, we're bandwagonners.
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As a (previous) long-time resident of DFW, the Rangers didn't seem to have much of a fanbase until about 1990. That lasted for about a dozen years and then I didn't see many jerseys walking around again until about 2010.


Gee, that sure explains it all don't it? You didn't see alot of jerseys. Well, that sure shuts me down. No arguing with this kind of intellect.
 
2012-07-10 06:48:08 PM  

Lt. Cheese Weasel: Moopy Mac: Lt. Cheese Weasel: Di Atribe: IAmRight: Di Atribe: Disagrees

You only disagree because you started caring about baseball when the Rangers got competent. And even he thinks it sucks, which is why he declined to participate this year. =)

Excuse me? Fark you very much. That was out of line.

No Di he's right. Since we've only been watching/supporting Rangers baseball for 40 years, we're bandwagonners.
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As a (previous) long-time resident of DFW, the Rangers didn't seem to have much of a fanbase until about 1990. That lasted for about a dozen years and then I didn't see many jerseys walking around again until about 2010.

Gee, that sure explains it all don't it? You didn't see alot of jerseys. Well, that sure shuts me down. No arguing with this kind of intellect.


He's right. I went to a Rangers game in 1990, then didn't go to another until 2009. Of course, I graduated and left Dallas in May 1990, I'm sure I could have flown back for a few if I wasn't a bandwagon guy.

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2012-07-10 06:59:15 PM  

roc6783: bhcompy: roc6783: 2. Butler did NOT deserve to be there based on his numbers

Butler has more homers than Fielder. So yes he does. If you want to take career in to count, Fielder still doesn't belong there because Thome, ARod, Jones, Konerko, Teixiera, Beltre, Hunter, Pena, etc all have more homeruns in their career(and are currently in the AL) than Fielder. Why aren't they there?

1. 1 HR difference isn't a big deal. If you notice when I was explaining the Weeks over Upton selection, it was due to 1 HR AND the fact that Fielder and Weeks have been friends since Little League.

2. Thome - 5, indefensible - Not an All Star
A-Rod - 13, bigger differential and has not been in an HRD recently - Not an All Star
Jones (I assume you mean Adam from the Orioles) - 20, would have been a better choice, but we would have missed his rib eating and that was worth it from my perspective
Konerko - 14, bigger differential and has not been in an HRD recently
Teixiera - 15, would have been fine - Not an All Star
Beltre - 15, would have been fine
Hunter - 10, indefensible - Not an All Star
Pena - 13, bigger differential and has not been in an HRD recently - Not an All Star


You had argued that Fielder's history is what puts him above Butler, rather than his stats this year. I basically chose hitters in the AL with better home run histories than Fielder just to show you how that point fails to hold water. And I meant Andruw, because he's way up on the active list(far ahead of Fielder), though Adam is a fine choice and probably my MVP vote after Trout.
 
2012-07-10 07:02:05 PM  

Coco LaFemme: Whether he's a Yankee or not, whether he hit any HRs or not (and he won the HR Derby last year, which wasn't at Yankee Stadium), why boo at an exhibition game or event? It's classless no matter where it's occurring, or who it's occurring to. This was a fun competition, not something with life or death consequences. Tacky fans are tacky.


This is what you're going to get when you put the All-Star Game in a small market town that hasn't had hope for decades, in what they see as a cynical attempt to placate their fans despite what the team's front office may be saying. They're going to boo anyone who plays for a team that is pushing close to $200 million in team salary and they perceive as a huge part of the problem with the game. I don't agree with booing the players but I know many of the fans there feel like there's nothing else they can do.
 
2012-07-10 07:04:56 PM  

Moopy Mac: As a (previous) long-time resident of DFW, the Rangers didn't seem to have much of a fanbase until about 1990. That lasted for about a dozen years and then I didn't see many jerseys walking around again until about 2010.


I didn't move to DFW until 1994, when I started college. That's when I started going to games & enjoying baseball. However, it's irrelevant. Questioning WHY someone's a fan or WHEN they became a fan is dickhole behavior. Not one of us should have to justify why we pull for our team.
 
2012-07-10 07:28:09 PM  

Rwa2play: Levarien: I'm fine with this.

If it were Red Sox fans or Phillies fans or any other large market, Huge payroll team, they'd be hypocrites. But a perennial small market team that is basically a farm team for the Yankees and others: those fans get to boo.

Yeah well, they wanna boo someone, boo David Glass for being a cheapskate.


Right, blame the guy heading the team with the payroll that's rather average, not the team that's pushing the astronomical envelope beyond anyone else in order to horde all the talent and keep the competition at farm team status. What a cheap dick, David Glass.
 
2012-07-10 07:35:20 PM  
wait, Erin Andrews moved to Fox?

/whar thread?
 
2012-07-10 07:46:32 PM  

theurge14: Rwa2play: Levarien: I'm fine with this.

If it were Red Sox fans or Phillies fans or any other large market, Huge payroll team, they'd be hypocrites. But a perennial small market team that is basically a farm team for the Yankees and others: those fans get to boo.

Yeah well, they wanna boo someone, boo David Glass for being a cheapskate.

Right, blame the guy heading the team with the payroll that's rather average, not the team that's pushing the astronomical envelope beyond anyone else in order to horde all the talent and keep the competition at farm team status. What a cheap dick, David Glass.


4th cheapest in baseball is average?
 
2012-07-10 08:15:28 PM  

Rex_Banner: Ya know what? I hope Cano completes the heel turn tonight. He shows up with Chris Chamblis as his manager. He rips up a little kid's autograph book. He sneaks up on Billy Butler and hits with with a steel chair. Then he places George Brett in the figure four leg lock. Meanwhile, the other Yankee All-Stars can beat up the faces that try to come in and break it up.


Hey, as long as it's in a steel cage I'm all for it! :D
 
2012-07-10 08:16:56 PM  

Dafatone: theurge14: Rwa2play: Levarien: I'm fine with this.

If it were Red Sox fans or Phillies fans or any other large market, Huge payroll team, they'd be hypocrites. But a perennial small market team that is basically a farm team for the Yankees and others: those fans get to boo.

Yeah well, they wanna boo someone, boo David Glass for being a cheapskate.

Right, blame the guy heading the team with the payroll that's rather average, not the team that's pushing the astronomical envelope beyond anyone else in order to horde all the talent and keep the competition at farm team status. What a cheap dick, David Glass.

4th cheapest in baseball is average?


Like I said, David Glass is a cheapskate.
 
2012-07-10 08:44:12 PM  
Cano? More like Can0!
 
2012-07-10 10:01:22 PM  

WTF Indeed: The Bestest: Steinbrenner purchased the Yankees for less than $8M, improved the team largely through self-investment, and they were worth over $1.2B by the time of his death.

It was actually $8.5m


Fine, so he threw in his toilet paper to sweeten the deal.
 
2012-07-10 10:22:58 PM  

Rwa2play: Dafatone: theurge14: Rwa2play: Levarien: I'm fine with this.

If it were Red Sox fans or Phillies fans or any other large market, Huge payroll team, they'd be hypocrites. But a perennial small market team that is basically a farm team for the Yankees and others: those fans get to boo.

Yeah well, they wanna boo someone, boo David Glass for being a cheapskate.

Right, blame the guy heading the team with the payroll that's rather average, not the team that's pushing the astronomical envelope beyond anyone else in order to horde all the talent and keep the competition at farm team status. What a cheap dick, David Glass.

4th cheapest in baseball is average?

Like I said, David Glass is a cheapskate.

They should have the lowest payroll with the youngest tesm
 
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