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(American Thinker)   A thoroughly flustered Obama, without his trusting teleprompter or a closet advocate moderating the debate, may be seen by Americans as clueless and blundering. If that happens, a close race could become overnight a landslide   (americanthinker.com) divider line 302
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2012-07-10 02:31:49 PM
FFS, Obama taught at the Univ. Chicago Law School for a dozen years, the Derpers really believe he can't think on his feet? At the least show of stumbling those law students would have chewed him up and washed him down w/ Milwaukee's Best.
 
2012-07-10 02:32:23 PM
I agree with this completely. "Mitt the Machine" has demonstrated repeatedly his ability to eat up opponents in debates. Obama doesn't have a chance, unless someone invents a teleprompter as fast on its feet as Mitt. This is my biggest worry about this fall. I have to say, anything less than three crushing victories will have to be viewed as a defeat for Romney.
 
2012-07-10 02:32:35 PM
This conversation is boring. Can we talk about flag pins again? I'm feeling nostalgic.
 
2012-07-10 02:34:28 PM

snowshovel: Sadly, that's not how presidential debates work.


Yeah, it's more of a "two stump speeches in the same room, broken into alternating segments" than a "debate."
 
2012-07-10 02:34:58 PM

burning_bridge: SlothB77: Romney will easily outwit Obama in the debates. Not really gonna be that close.

Ahem.

Obama at 2010 Republican Retreat

You really wanna believe that?


That is handily one of my favorite moments from Obama's first term
 
2012-07-10 02:36:32 PM

ThePea: FFS, Obama taught at the Univ. Chicago Law School for a dozen years, the Derpers really believe he can't think on his feet?


No doubt he can stammer and stutter through a lecture if he has notes. But in terms of demonstrating the kind of mental agility needed to respond effectively to a debating machine like Mitt, I just have to be intellectually honest here, and say I haven't seen it. Hopefully they'll let Obama have some papers with him at his podium to avoid too much of an embarrassment.

My god though. I mean, I know it won't happen. But what if Mitt LOST even one of the debates to Obama. That would show he's not even smart enough to beat a guy who only knows how to read from a teleprompter. He would have to be a complete retard to lose to someone like Obama.
 
2012-07-10 02:37:56 PM

bugontherug: ThePea: FFS, Obama taught at the Univ. Chicago Law School for a dozen years, the Derpers really believe he can't think on his feet?

No doubt he can stammer and stutter through a lecture if he has notes. But in terms of demonstrating the kind of mental agility needed to respond effectively to a debating machine like Mitt, I just have to be intellectually honest here, and say I haven't seen it. Hopefully they'll let Obama have some papers with him at his podium to avoid too much of an embarrassment.

My god though. I mean, I know it won't happen. But what if Mitt LOST even one of the debates to Obama. That would show he's not even smart enough to beat a guy who only knows how to read from a teleprompter. He would have to be a complete retard to lose to someone like Obama.


I see what you did thar.
 
2012-07-10 02:40:58 PM

bugontherug: He would have to be a complete retard to lose to someone like Obama.


Well, then...
www.22dakika.org

/four more years
 
2012-07-10 02:42:18 PM

keylock71: Eshman: Friction8r: Ahhhh...THIS is where the FLCJC has chosen to congregate in defense of their hapless leader!

Got nothing, as usual. Good day.

No, no... FLCJC (whatever the fark that's supposed to mean) is going to be a thing on Fark. Just you watch. *rolls eyes*


Dude, dincha hear? It's the new YOLO.

"Foreign Leggings Cause Justifiable Chafing"
 
2012-07-10 02:42:31 PM

bugontherug: ThePea: FFS, Obama taught at the Univ. Chicago Law School for a dozen years, the Derpers really believe he can't think on his feet?

No doubt he can stammer and stutter through a lecture if he has notes. But in terms of demonstrating the kind of mental agility needed to respond effectively to a debating machine like Mitt, I just have to be intellectually honest here, and say I haven't seen it. Hopefully they'll let Obama have some papers with him at his podium to avoid too much of an embarrassment.

My god though. I mean, I know it won't happen. But what if Mitt LOST even one of the debates to Obama. That would show he's not even smart enough to beat a guy who only knows how to read from a teleprompter. He would have to be a complete retard to lose to someone like Obama.


You're good. 8/10. Needs a pinch more of smarmy superiority.
 
2012-07-10 02:48:48 PM

Ehh: birchman: What is it that keeps leading the GOP to claim that Obama is a poor impromptu speaker? I don't understand what leads them to this conclusion, not that lack of facts has ever stopped them before.

Just that. Facts don't matter; repeating the lie does. The lie that the new sheriff is inarticulate sells well with its target audience, whose parents probably didn't like Paul Robeson. Now, if you will excuse me, I've got to go make the pie higher.


i.ytimg.com
Higher than that? Good luck.
 
2012-07-10 02:50:00 PM

SlothB77: Romney will easily outwit Obama in the debates. Not really gonna be that close.


Agree that it's "not gonna be that close", but the bulk of the wits stand firmly on the Obama side. Romney would need some other "talent" to even come close.
 
2012-07-10 02:50:18 PM
obama is already seen as clueless and blundering and it's still a close race. the blog sucks...
 
2012-07-10 02:51:02 PM

birchman: What is it that keeps leading the GOP to claim that Obama is a poor impromptu speaker?


Desperation.

I'm betting Obama hasn't read "three or four Shakespeares".
 
2012-07-10 02:56:53 PM
I think folks who believe Mitt will do badly in debates may be mistaken in assuming that Mitt will even participate in debates. Mitt won't do media interviews, he doesn't appear publicly except at fundraisers, he obviously hated the primary debates. He appears to want to avoid every possible chance to explain his beliefs and positions, and he desperately doesn't want to talk about his personal history and background.

I think he may very well refuse to debate Obama.
 
2012-07-10 02:58:05 PM

BudTheSpud: I miss Phil Hartman. Now there's a guy who could do an excellent Mitt.


I'd argue that, even today, Phil's as lifelike as Mitt is.
 
2012-07-10 03:03:11 PM
I'd be willing to bet that Obama will do just fine against Romney in the debates. I'll tell you what, ten-thousand bucks? Ten-thousand dollar bet?
 
2012-07-10 03:05:30 PM

FuturePastNow: I think folks who believe Mitt will do badly in debates may be mistaken in assuming that Mitt will even participate in debates. Mitt won't do media interviews, he doesn't appear publicly except at fundraisers, he obviously hated the primary debates. He appears to want to avoid every possible chance to explain his beliefs and positions, and he desperately doesn't want to talk about his personal history and background.

I think he may very well refuse to debate Obama.



Naw, he won't refuse. He'll manufacture some bullshiat about liberal institutions holding the debates and try to demand a "neutral"*** venue. When Obama hesitates to have a debate which is sponsored by the Tea Party, at Bob Jones University, in front of a group of PNAC members, Romney will claim that it is OBAMA who is scared to debate. This will serve to waste a good deal of time until Romney finally agrees to two (maybe three) debates on a limited number of topics.

***It won't be neutral.
 
2012-07-10 03:05:55 PM

doyner: Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: To be fair, even when you look at the quote in Bush's context, it still doesn't quite make sense.

And sometimes it is hard to put food on your family.


They should stop squirming so much.
 
2012-07-10 03:09:27 PM
*point*

*laf*
 
2012-07-10 03:11:34 PM

DROxINxTHExWIND: Romney finally agrees to two (maybe three) debates on a limited number of topics.


Topics to include:
Obamanomics and how it is raping America's children
The finer points of horse dancing.
Isaac Asimov's Three Laws of Robotics and why they should not apply to American presidents
 
2012-07-10 03:14:00 PM

Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: Dusk-You-n-Me: Of the two candidates, Obama isn't the one I expect to lose his cool in the debates.

He's the only one with any cool to lose.

/Coolant, on the other hand...


i121.photobucket.com
 
2012-07-10 03:21:30 PM

Quasar: Jackson Herring: Quasar: skullkrusher: Jackson Herring: skullkrusher: [f]right[ened]

what?

it's fetch

totes

adorbs!

That is streets ahead.


Stop trying to make fetch happen!
 
2012-07-10 03:22:17 PM

Diogenes: This conversation is boring. Can we talk about flag pins again? I'm feeling nostalgic.


Remember when Obama brushed the dirt off his shoulders? That was when I knew he would win.

/flag pins are stupid
 
2012-07-10 03:29:46 PM

92myrtle: At least one of these debates he's going to uncork a slow-motion car wreck on live TV.


Oh man... What a turn of phrase.

/That's a favorite-ing.
//Do you prefer mauve or cerulean?
 
2012-07-10 03:34:47 PM

dr_blasto: "Gundam Unicorns"


I would watch the ever-living fark out of that. MADE exclusively for angst-y teenage boys AND girls.
 
2012-07-10 03:37:53 PM

dr_blasto: OK, so everyone's forgotten his address to the congressional Republicans regarding health care reform where he walked all over them easily, never getting flustered? I don't recall him using a teleprompter to answer their questions or rebut their nonsense.

So, if a roomful of congressional Republicans couldn't do it, what on earth would lead someone to believe Romney, of all people, could?


b.vimeocdn.com
 
2012-07-10 03:38:27 PM
Have Obama and Romney ever actually met? I don't follow politics too closely so I have no idea. Just wondering... I bet Mitt gets all flustered and stuttery at the debates... we should make a drinking game out of it. "Socialist" is a shot. Romney denying his healthcare thing is anything like ACA, chug a beer. Etc.
 
2012-07-10 03:59:20 PM
The only time Obama seems to run out of gas when speaking is if he's making an argument that he knows is specious. If you look at him doing his "activist judge" bit on the impending SCOTUS Obamacare case. He knew he was making a retarded argument, but since unlike most Republicans, he tends to be thoughtful and reality based, he stumbled through as if even he couldn't believe he was saying that retarded stuff out loud.

Now, presenting a well thought out, well prepared platform via a debate format? He's going to clean Romney's clock.
 
2012-07-10 04:02:51 PM

bugontherug: I agree with this completely. "Mitt the Machine" has demonstrated repeatedly his ability to eat up opponents in debates. Obama doesn't have a chance, unless someone invents a teleprompter as fast on its feet as Mitt. This is my biggest worry about this fall. I have to say, anything less than three crushing victories will have to be viewed as a defeat for Romney.


People, listen to Bug. We have had this discussion before, and Bug completely changed my mind on the subject.

Understand, Romney has just gone through a grueling debate schedule in the primary. He will never be a better debater than he is now. Obama has not had to be in a debate since 2008. All skills, including debate skills, atrophy through non-use over time. Obama's debate skills, logically, must be at their lowest at this point.

Therefore, Romney must be able to destroy him in the debates, and he certainly will. Otherwise, the Republicans will have to explain how a man at the very peak of his ability to debate came in even with or lost to a man who is totally dependent on prompters and has lost his ability to debate due to non-use. Bug is right, Romney must crush Obama in all three debates or he will be the obvious loser.
 
2012-07-10 04:04:28 PM

RyogaM: bugontherug: I agree with this completely. "Mitt the Machine" has demonstrated repeatedly his ability to eat up opponents in debates. Obama doesn't have a chance, unless someone invents a teleprompter as fast on its feet as Mitt. This is my biggest worry about this fall. I have to say, anything less than three crushing victories will have to be viewed as a defeat for Romney.

People, listen to Bug. We have had this discussion before, and Bug completely changed my mind on the subject.

Understand, Romney has just gone through a grueling debate schedule in the primary. He will never be a better debater than he is now. Obama has not had to be in a debate since 2008. All skills, including debate skills, atrophy through non-use over time. Obama's debate skills, logically, must be at their lowest at this point.

Therefore, Romney must be able to destroy him in the debates, and he certainly will. Otherwise, the Republicans will have to explain how a man at the very peak of his ability to debate came in even with or lost to a man who is totally dependent on prompters and has lost his ability to debate due to non-use. Bug is right, Romney must crush Obama in all three debates or he will be the obvious loser.


These posts confuse me
 
2012-07-10 04:08:56 PM

RyogaM: Understand, Romney has just gone through a grueling debate schedule in the primary. He will never be a better debater than he is now. Obama has not had to be in a debate since 2008. All skills, including debate skills, atrophy through non-use over time. Obama's debate skills, logically, must be at their lowest at this point.


So you're working under the assumption that Obama's not doing any prep for the campaign? All he's got to do is practice. The fact that he's not in front of a national audience while he does this isn't a factor, the guy's clearly very comfortable with all eyes on him.
 
2012-07-10 04:20:57 PM

Mercutio74: RyogaM: Understand, Romney has just gone through a grueling debate schedule in the primary. He will never be a better debater than he is now. Obama has not had to be in a debate since 2008. All skills, including debate skills, atrophy through non-use over time. Obama's debate skills, logically, must be at their lowest at this point.

So you're working under the assumption that Obama's not doing any prep for the campaign? All he's got to do is practice. The fact that he's not in front of a national audience while he does this isn't a factor, the guy's clearly very comfortable with all eyes on him.


Well, sure, he's practicing and prepping. But prep is not the same as real debates. And, look, he's a very busy guy, running the country and all. Romney, OTOH, has nothing to do BUT prep for the debates. He's got, what, 10 times the free time to do debate prep than Obama does? So, logically, he will be much, much, more prepared for the debates than Obama.

I'm afraid to say, under the circumstances, it is completely logical to say that Romney will come out as the clear winner in all three debates, and, given the circumstances, if he fails to do so, he would have to be such a piss-poor political opponent that there is no way he could have won the Republican nomination. Unless the whole party was a party of morons, and that is certainly not possible.
 
2012-07-10 04:24:33 PM

OHDUDENESS: Also, nice of Lando Lincoln to throw out the race card early. Hey you nitwit, I couldn't care less about the color of the guy's skin... I care about his opinions, way of governing and his beliefs in how this nation should be run. But if it makes it easier on you to believe that I'm some closet racist, then so be it.


Well, it's pretty goddamn easy to back any of Romney's opinions about anything, since he's held every opinion of every topic at one time or another.
 
2012-07-10 04:30:22 PM

Mercutio74: RyogaM: Understand, Romney has just gone through a grueling debate schedule in the primary. He will never be a better debater than he is now. Obama has not had to be in a debate since 2008. All skills, including debate skills, atrophy through non-use over time. Obama's debate skills, logically, must be at their lowest at this point.

So you're working under the assumption that Obama's not doing any prep for the campaign? All he's got to do is practice. The fact that he's not in front of a national audience while he does this isn't a factor, the guy's clearly very comfortable with all eyes on him.


I think you are overestimating Obama here. This is where Romney can really show what he is made of and he's facing Empty Suit Obama. Romney would have to be a shallow pandering moron to lose even one debate to Obama. Sure, there will be preparations but you have to understand that Obama is a huge underdog here.
 
2012-07-10 04:32:28 PM

fringedmyotis: I dunno, people don't seem to pay too much attention to what happens in the debates, or this would have mattered more...

[www.dareland.com image 346x268]


To be fair... that's probably a flak jacket or kevlar vest...
 
2012-07-10 04:38:58 PM

RyogaM: Well, sure, he's practicing and prepping. But prep is not the same as real debates. And, look, he's a very busy guy, running the country and all. Romney, OTOH, has nothing to do BUT prep for the debates. He's got, what, 10 times the free time to do debate prep than Obama does? So, logically, he will be much, much, more prepared for the debates than Obama.

I'm afraid to say, under the circumstances, it is completely logical to say that Romney will come out as the clear winner in all three debates, and, given the circumstances, if he fails to do so, he would have to be such a piss-poor political opponent that there is no way he could have won the Republican nomination. Unless the whole party was a party of morons, and that is certainly not possible.


But that's the thing, isn't it? Obama is a natural orator. He sounds authoritative, he's logical, he connects with the audience, he's charming. Romney has none of that, and that's not something you can train for. All Obama has to do is familiarize himself with what points Romney's likely going to make (and let's face it, they're pretty obvious, the GOP has a very narrow philosophy these days) and then figure out how to refute or deflect those points.

On top of that, Obama actually is willing to talk about his platform in public. Unless Romney begins to actually develop specific plans, he won't be doing anything but defending his flip floppery and trying desperately to paint Obama as something his isn't.
 
2012-07-10 04:41:59 PM
I didn't read the thread and I hope it's been said

Obama could wipe the floor with anyone in a debate without notes

Republicans forgetting the ass-whooping he handed them at their own little convention caucus thing that they challenged him to come to?
 
2012-07-10 04:42:28 PM
But Obama has been practicing.


With John Kerry taking place of Mitt Romney
 
2012-07-10 04:45:54 PM

RyogaM: bugontherug: I agree with this completely. "Mitt the Machine" has demonstrated repeatedly his ability to eat up opponents in debates. Obama doesn't have a chance, unless someone invents a teleprompter as fast on its feet as Mitt. This is my biggest worry about this fall. I have to say, anything less than three crushing victories will have to be viewed as a defeat for Romney.

People, listen to Bug. We have had this discussion before, and Bug completely changed my mind on the subject.

Understand, Romney has just gone through a grueling debate schedule in the primary. He will never be a better debater than he is now. Obama has not had to be in a debate since 2008. All skills, including debate skills, atrophy through non-use over time. Obama's debate skills, logically, must be at their lowest at this point.

Therefore, Romney must be able to destroy him in the debates, and he certainly will. Otherwise, the Republicans will have to explain how a man at the very peak of his ability to debate came in even with or lost to a man who is totally dependent on prompters and has lost his ability to debate due to non-use. Bug is right, Romney must crush Obama in all three debates or he will be the obvious loser.


This has Poe's Law written all over it.

/not sure if serious
 
2012-07-10 04:54:16 PM

InmanRoshi: Yeah, the contrast will be stark compared to Mitt who is so natural, easy going and affable on his feet.

[crooksandliars.com image 325x244]

Hey everyone, who let the dogs out? Amirite?


Lemon. Wet. Good.

Corporations are people, my friend.

I'm sorry, Mitt, but you're going to get your ass cut off, sauteed and handed back to you on a silver platter.
 
2012-07-10 05:02:57 PM

Reverend Monkeypants: I didn't read the thread and I hope it's been said

Obama could wipe the floor with anyone in a debate without notes

Republicans forgetting the ass-whooping he handed them at their own little convention caucus thing that they challenged him to come to?


That was a beautiful day.

[before]

GOP: "Let's invite Obama to a room full of Republicans to answer our questions! And he won't have his teleprompter to help him! HAR HAR! This will be soo good! Let's tape it just to show America how dumb he is!"

[after]

Obama: "Hey, where are all you guys going? I could do this all day long! I feel like we're making some real progress, here!"

GOP: "Let us never speak of this day again, and any Republican that does shall get his balls knocked up into his throat. And burn those video tapes."
 
2012-07-10 05:05:05 PM

skullkrusher: RyogaM: bugontherug: I agree with this completely. "Mitt the Machine" has demonstrated repeatedly his ability to eat up opponents in debates. Obama doesn't have a chance, unless someone invents a teleprompter as fast on its feet as Mitt. This is my biggest worry about this fall. I have to say, anything less than three crushing victories will have to be viewed as a defeat for Romney.

People, listen to Bug. We have had this discussion before, and Bug completely changed my mind on the subject.

Understand, Romney has just gone through a grueling debate schedule in the primary. He will never be a better debater than he is now. Obama has not had to be in a debate since 2008. All skills, including debate skills, atrophy through non-use over time. Obama's debate skills, logically, must be at their lowest at this point.

Therefore, Romney must be able to destroy him in the debates, and he certainly will. Otherwise, the Republicans will have to explain how a man at the very peak of his ability to debate came in even with or lost to a man who is totally dependent on prompters and has lost his ability to debate due to non-use. Bug is right, Romney must crush Obama in all three debates or he will be the obvious loser.

These posts confuse me


All you need to know is this means Sarah Palin is Arch wizard of the Nine Sacred Seals and also socialism. Another fartbongo kenyan marxist attack. Why do you hate white people? Oh, and other than her most puissant and fearsome hierophant, saint sarah, vaginas have centipedes and are nowhere near as soothing as a men's public restroom in an airport. A merica, fark yeah.
 
2012-07-10 05:09:50 PM

erik-k: InmanRoshi: Yeah, the contrast will be stark compared to Mitt who is so natural, easy going and affable on his feet.

[crooksandliars.com image 325x244]

Hey everyone, who let the dogs out? Amirite?

Lemon. Wet. Good.

Corporations are people, my friend.

I'm sorry, Mitt, but you're going to get your ass cut off, sauteed and handed back to you on a silver platter.


In the manner he is used to being served things. Ironic.
 
2012-07-10 05:58:19 PM

incendi: bdub77: Obama is going to do some damage in the debates.

Of course... we may run into a "high expectations" problem. Everybody is pretty much anticipating total burn-to-the-ground-and-salt-the-earth destruction... if he ends up merely disemboweling every one of Romney's points and making him look like a fool it will be trumpeted as a Romney victory by mere survival.


But we WANT to see the President go Full Troll. We've never SEEN it before.

/And it would be spectacular.
 
2012-07-10 06:21:03 PM

PsiChick: But we WANT to see the President go Full Troll. We've never SEEN it before.


It would be glorious, for sure. I'm hoping that he hires the entire Colbert Report writing crew to assist in his debate preparation.
 
2012-07-10 06:30:46 PM
I seem to recall Obama obliterating McCain in the debates. It was close for a while in the first, but Obama won all three.
 
2012-07-10 08:21:36 PM
Schieffer: "Governor, how would you deal with Egypt?"

Romney: "I'm glad you asked me about jobs, Bob" or "That's a gotcha question, I'm not going to dignify it with a response. Now back to how crappy Obama is."

If recent debates are the new standard, the farkwits will spin any question to an unrelated talking point and not be challenged.
 
2012-07-10 09:50:28 PM

RyogaM: Mercutio74: RyogaM: Understand, Romney has just gone through a grueling debate schedule in the primary. He will never be a better debater than he is now. Obama has not had to be in a debate since 2008. All skills, including debate skills, atrophy through non-use over time. Obama's debate skills, logically, must be at their lowest at this point.

So you're working under the assumption that Obama's not doing any prep for the campaign? All he's got to do is practice. The fact that he's not in front of a national audience while he does this isn't a factor, the guy's clearly very comfortable with all eyes on him.

Well, sure, he's practicing and prepping. But prep is not the same as real debates. And, look, he's a very busy guy, running the country and all. Romney, OTOH, has nothing to do BUT prep for the debates. He's got, what, 10 times the free time to do debate prep than Obama does? So, logically, he will be much, much, more prepared for the debates than Obama.

I'm afraid to say, under the circumstances, it is completely logical to say that Romney will come out as the clear winner in all three debates, and, given the circumstances, if he fails to do so, he would have to be such a piss-poor political opponent that there is no way he could have won the Republican nomination. Unless the whole party was a party of morons, and that is certainly not possible.


I'd say you're wrong on the part I bolded, until I thought about it. There are a few smart ones out there. I mean Rush makes a ton of money just talking, the Koch brothers also make tons of money, and so on and so forth. It's true, the whole party isn't full of morons, but the money is the minority with real power.

/Appease the derpers, cut the taxes for the power.
//This is your GOP status minute.
 
2012-07-10 11:58:30 PM

keylock71: Eh... More likely, Romney will be the one to get flustered and say something mind-numbingly stupid on national TV.

In fact, I'm willing to bet $10,000 dollars on it. : )


Thats an impossible bet to ever collect on. Anyone stupid enough to take it, is also stupid enough to have watched Palin debate Biden in '08, and come away from it believing that Palin destroyed him.
 
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