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(Boston Herald)   "No person with a speck of intelligence would turn down billions in federal dollars... But then again, this is Rick Perry"   (bostonherald.com) divider line 122
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2012-07-10 09:45:44 AM  
Maybe he's trying to stay off of that red-state welfare chart.
 
2012-07-10 09:46:32 AM  
His ideology is equal to intelligence, this is a democracy, damn it.

*fires revolvers in the air*
 
2012-07-10 09:47:09 AM  
I'm...I'm OK with this.
 
2012-07-10 09:48:17 AM  
He got his. Screw the state. His voters knew what they were getting.
 
2012-07-10 09:48:21 AM  
So, he's taken to praying for money, hoping God will eventually make it rain in Texas in whatever capacity.
 
2012-07-10 09:49:41 AM  

EyeballKid: make it rain in Texas


It has been raining in Texas.
 
2012-07-10 09:50:03 AM  
It is not hyperbole to say that Perry will have blood on his hands if he goes through with this. People will die because of this decision and Republicans will cheer.

/Republicans are horrible people.
 
2012-07-10 09:51:26 AM  
This will work until the people who use the ER as their PCP find out they can't get treated anymore.
 
2012-07-10 09:52:22 AM  

Emrick: It is not hyperbole


Yes it is. Not that I disagree with the sentiment behind it. As with any political issue, absolutes are for the retarded.
 
2012-07-10 09:52:33 AM  

s2s2s2: EyeballKid: make it rain in Texas

It has been raining in Texas.


So the praying finally worked? Did it happen just after Perry dropped out of the race?
 
2012-07-10 09:53:07 AM  

GoodyearPimp: This will work until the people who use the ER as their PCP find out they can't get treated anymore.


Good thing that isn't going to happen.
 
2012-07-10 09:53:35 AM  
"Why no sir, I don't want my state's uninsured and low-income to receive care. We simply don't care about them. They're poor - why would we care? In Texas, we worship how terrible we are. It's our culture."
 
2012-07-10 09:53:51 AM  
Perry said Texas will not expand Medicaid, forgoing an estimated $13 billion a year in federal money from 2014 to 2017, and will not create a health care exchange, an online market that would allow uninsured people to shop for coverage.

Why does Rick Perry hate capitalism and the free market?
 
2012-07-10 09:53:59 AM  

s2s2s2: Emrick: It is not hyperbole

Yes it is. Not that I disagree with the sentiment behind it. As with any political issue, absolutes are for the retarded.



Every time without exception?
 
2012-07-10 09:54:31 AM  

s2s2s2: Emrick: It is not hyperbole

Yes it is. Not that I disagree with the sentiment behind it. As with any political issue, absolutes are for the retardedSith.


For you, fixed it has been.
 
2012-07-10 09:54:38 AM  
Wouldn't it be funny if the Federal exchange ended up saving money? (Relative to TX unexpanded Medicaid.)

Would a hypothetical Governor Less Retarded Than Perry (hopefully) finally expand it? Would they stand on Texan principle (making them at least equally as retarded as Perry, I guess)?

(Will Perry get term-limited out of office?) Anyone wanna take bets on whether the next governor opts in to the expanded Medicaid program regardless? (offer not valid if another teabagger wins an election.)

// parentheses
 
2012-07-10 09:55:17 AM  

EyeballKid: So the praying finally worked? Did it happen just after Perry dropped out of the race?


It's been raining a bit throughout the summer. The fact that we are getting the cool benefits of the North Eastern death storms has its own political joke generator.
 
2012-07-10 09:55:56 AM  

Philip Francis Queeg: Perry said Texas will not expand Medicaid, forgoing an estimated $13 billion a year in federal money from 2014 to 2017, and will not create a health care exchange, an online market that would allow uninsured people to shop for coverage.

Why does Rick Perry hate capitalism and the free market?


I'm sure the people of Texas will be very happy with a huge, easily fixed budget hole and a federal one-size-fits-all insurance exchange.
 
2012-07-10 09:56:04 AM  
I don't even understand the argument here. Everyone still has to have healthcare because the mandate is constitutional, theres no liberty argument anymore. You can be forced to buy insurance and thats okay. by turning down free money, he's just making sure people will pay more for healthcare. Since you aren't taxed if you have have it, this is essentially a tax increase on texans but it's not going to state coffers.

Also, isn't having each state set up an exchange the epitome of federalism? Using the federal government exchange is a greater threat to sovereignty.

Sigh
 
2012-07-10 09:56:06 AM  

Philip Francis Queeg: Perry said Texas will not expand Medicaid, forgoing an estimated $13 billion a year in federal money from 2014 to 2017, and will not create a health care exchange, an online market that would allow uninsured people to shop for coverage.

Why does Rick Perry hate capitalism and the free market?


The republicans are also fighting that the Feds will just step in and offer it. They really, really hate poor people.
 
2012-07-10 09:56:15 AM  

Philip Francis Queeg: Perry said Texas will not expand Medicaid, forgoing an estimated $13 billion a year in federal money from 2014 to 2017, and will not create a health care exchange, an online market that would allow uninsured people to shop for coverage.

Why does Rick Perry hate capitalism and the free market?


That part surprised me too. At the same time, the states that are holding their breath until they get their way will have the exchanges done at the federal level.
 
2012-07-10 09:56:24 AM  
Better to reign in hell than serve in heaven
 
2012-07-10 09:56:44 AM  
I've finally come to the conclusion that the whole debate comes down to the fact that conservatives see health as an individual issue and health care as a market commodity while democrats see health as a national issue and health care as a public good. Until we get that issue resolved all we've got is some idiotic shouting match.
 
2012-07-10 09:56:45 AM  

fracto73: Every time without exception?


No, and yes.
 
2012-07-10 09:56:51 AM  
Dear constituents:

The federal government is offering our state thirteen billion dollars a year so that those of you who can't currently afford healthcare will be able to obtain it. But fear not! I bravely refused to participate on your behalf.

Best regards,
Rick Perry.
 
2012-07-10 09:57:27 AM  
You spelled it wrong, subby.

i2.cdn.turner.com
 
2012-07-10 09:58:59 AM  
"Perry said Texas will not expand Medicaid, forgoing an estimated $13 billion a year in federal money from 2014 to 2017, and will not create a health care exchange, an online market that would allow uninsured people to shop for coverage."

OK, well the federal government will set up the latter for you then; and the former, we'll see in a few years how your voters like that when they look at States which did expand it.
 
2012-07-10 09:59:02 AM  

s2s2s2: Maybe he's trying to stay off of that red-state welfare chart.


No he's not: he is both opting out of Obamacare AND expecting Medicaid to pay for additional expenses in the state correctional health system so he can 'balance the budget'.
 
2012-07-10 09:59:29 AM  

Dr Dreidel: Wouldn't it be funny if the Federal exchange ended up saving money? (Relative to TX unexpanded Medicaid.)

Would a hypothetical Governor Less Retarded Than Perry (hopefully) finally expand it? Would they stand on Texan principle (making them at least equally as retarded as Perry, I guess)?

(Will Perry get term-limited out of office?) Anyone wanna take bets on whether the next governor opts in to the expanded Medicaid program regardless? (offer not valid if another teabagger wins an election.)

// parentheses


There are no term limits for the Texas governorship. Unfortunately my fellow moran Texans keep electing this dumbass.
 
2012-07-10 09:59:33 AM  
FTFA: In a sharply worded letter to federal officials Monday, Gov. Rick Perry said Texas will not participate in two key programs under the Affordable Care Act, noting that the law recently approved by the U.S. Supreme Court "will find no foothold here." "Please relay this message to the president," Perry wrote to Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius. "Both represent brazen intrusions into the sovereignty of our state."

So the cowboy-posing governor of a state full of secessionist-talking dipsh-ts is concerned about the "sovereignty" of his state? And since when do Supreme Court decisions need to "find a foothold" in this country? The debate is over, tough guy, and your side lost. And seriously... after a performance in the primaries that showed the whole world what a complete fumble-mouthed retard he is, how does Rick Perry speak publicly without being laughed off the stage?
 
2012-07-10 09:59:43 AM  

s2s2s2: GoodyearPimp: This will work until the people who use the ER as their PCP find out they can't get treated anymore.

Good thing that isn't going to happen.


Do hospitals run on gumption in Texas? Or maybe cojones?
 
2012-07-10 09:59:44 AM  

Epoch_Zero: "Why no sir, I don't want my state's uninsured and low-income to receive care. We simply don't care about them. They're poor - why would we care? In Texas, we worship how terrible we are. It's our culture."


About sums it up. Taking pride in ignorance, bigotry, and hatred.
 
2012-07-10 09:59:51 AM  
"Mr. Perry is condemning the uninsured to ill health and premature death simply because he doesn't want to help President Obama,"

Pretty much.

Katy Perry would probably make a better Governor than Yosemite Sam's retarded nephew here.
 
2012-07-10 09:59:54 AM  

GoodyearPimp: This will work until the people who use the ER as their PCP find out they can't get treated anymore.


This is Texas. They'll use PCP as their PCP, and then end up in the ER after running around flipping over cop cars wearing nothing but ostrich skin boots and a cowboy hat.
 
2012-07-10 09:59:57 AM  
If he does not take the money, doesn't the Federal government set up the exchanges anyway? Perry gains political points with his voters and the Feds do the heavy lifting. Not to defend Perry's intelligence, but maybe not a bad move from his perspective.
 
2012-07-10 10:00:39 AM  
Obama should just trick him and say the money is for executions. Then they would take it.
 
2012-07-10 10:00:47 AM  

error 303: I've finally come to the conclusion that the whole debate comes down to the fact that conservatives see health as an individual issue and health care as a market commodity while democrats see health as a national issue and health care as a public good. Until we get that issue resolved all we've got is some idiotic shouting match.


And Obama is black.
 
2012-07-10 10:01:22 AM  

Barricaded Gunman: And seriously... after a performance in the primaries that showed the whole world what a complete fumble-mouthed retard he is, how does Rick Perry speak publicly without being laughed off the stage?


He governs over Texans, that's how.
 
2012-07-10 10:02:16 AM  
Heard a report on NPR. About 1.5million texans would qualify for Medicaid under the plan - and the Feds would cover 100% until I think 2024 when they cover 90%.

One of Texas' concerns is that there are approx. 1m Texans QUALIFIED for Medicaid now that aren't on the rolls. They are worried that too much healthcare talk will cause them to enroll or re-enroll. Texas pays (I believe) 50% of their coverage. THAT's a big part of it.

Also, Texas has already been in talks with DHHS to get a waiver/federally run program in Texas in the future. Basically, it's grandstanding while trying to reduce claims for currently due benefits.

Also, for all those states that 'refuse to set up a health insurance exchage' - the law as written and approved by the SCOTUS says that DHHS will set up an exchange in those states FOR the states. There are provisions where the state can take over and modify the exchange to meet their needs down the road. Again, grandstanding for now but they'll take the benefits and claim them as their own while quietly moving to take over the system once the work of setting it up has been done.

They'll be able to grandstand and hoot and holler (and shoot guns in the air) now about not taking money or implementing Obamacare, and be working to set up a transition onto the plans behind the scenes.
 
2012-07-10 10:03:24 AM  

ManRay: If he does not take the money, doesn't the Federal government set up the exchanges anyway? Perry gains political points with his voters and the Feds do the heavy lifting. Not to defend Perry's intelligence, but maybe not a bad move from his perspective.


The Feds set up the exchanges, but if your income is below a certain level you can't buy from the exchange you have to enroll in medicaid. Perry is leaving these people to get sick and die. I know letting poor people die is popular with Republicans but Perry is actually suppose to be a leader of the whole state not just the people who voted for him.
 
2012-07-10 10:03:26 AM  
how many want to bet they all change their tunes after the elections?
 
2012-07-10 10:03:31 AM  
If the fed wants it, let the fed pay for it.

Pretty simple.
 
2012-07-10 10:05:46 AM  

THX 1138: thirteen billion dollars a year


...for 5 years, then continue the spending requirements without the benefit of the federal dollars.
 
2012-07-10 10:07:02 AM  
No fish with a speck of intelligence would turn down a free meal, but then again...

4.bp.blogspot.com

Rick Perry just relizes that the federal government and their our money is like a Crack Dealer giving you that sample for free.
 
2012-07-10 10:07:57 AM  

GoodyearPimp: Do hospitals run on gumption in Texas? Or maybe cojones?


Both, plus bootstraps, and favorable tax rates for large companies to come here and generate revenue.
 
2012-07-10 10:08:09 AM  

Emrick: ManRay: If he does not take the money, doesn't the Federal government set up the exchanges anyway? Perry gains political points with his voters and the Feds do the heavy lifting. Not to defend Perry's intelligence, but maybe not a bad move from his perspective.

The Feds set up the exchanges, but if your income is below a certain level you can't buy from the exchange you have to enroll in medicaid. Perry is leaving these people to get sick and die. I know letting poor people die is popular with Republicans but Perry is actually suppose to be a leader of the whole state not just the people who voted for him.


Considering most of Perry's rural constituency is poor dumb red necks, you would have to assume eventually they will realize that they're getting farked in this deal.

Then again they are poor dumb red necks and if they haven't figured out that Perry is ruining our state already they probably never will.
 
2012-07-10 10:08:10 AM  

dwrash: If the fed wants it, let the fed pay for it.

Pretty simple.


Following the same rationale: if the States want it, let the States pay for it.. without 'the fed' assisting them, correct?
 
2012-07-10 10:08:21 AM  

s2s2s2: THX 1138: thirteen billion dollars a year

...for 5 years, then continue the spending requirements without the benefit of the federal dollars.


They've been talking up their state as an economic miracle, they should be fine.
 
2012-07-10 10:09:36 AM  

error 303: I've finally come to the conclusion that the whole debate comes down to the fact that conservatives see health as an individual issue and health care as a market commodity while democrats see health as a national issue and health care as a public good. Until we get that issue resolved all we've got is some idiotic shouting match.


You ascribe too much rational thought to the topic.
 
2012-07-10 10:10:13 AM  
One in four Texans, or about 6 million residents, lack health insurance, the highest rate in the nation.

But the wealthy can still afford the best care... And that's really all that matters to people like Perry.

Greedy Awful People
 
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