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2012-07-10 11:00:07 AM  

Jim from Saint Paul: yves0010: groppet: Supes: Looks like I'm in the minority here, but I'm okay with this. I'd love to see this structured as a full scale war on Earth between the remaining humans and the aliens that survived the crash. Though knowing Emmerich that would not have enough big explosions.

/of course what I'm really praying for is a sequel to The Fifth Element...

The Sixth Element?

Yeah.. why not. Could be Korben Dallas and Leeloo's kid. which would make the kid the 6th element.

[kryptonradio.com image 369x337]

Milla still seems capablae of wearing the same outfit she wore in the first one.

MOAR OF HER please.

/hottest tiny boobed skinny chick I've ever seen


Isn't she naked in almost every movie she is in. Resident Evil and the sequels. Fifth Element I dont think shows her naked per say but still naked.
 
2012-07-10 11:02:49 AM  

KatjaMouse: Save for a couple of fun scenes it's overall a pretty bad/slip shod movie.


We watch it every 4th of July.

Finally showed it to our 9-yo and I had to preface it with "mind you, physics doesn't work this way".
 
2012-07-10 11:08:01 AM  

Jim from Saint Paul: /I went in expecting over the top action with witty one liners


"Did you see dat?"

"They throwin' CARS at us, how I not see dat?"

/loved it!
 
2012-07-10 11:09:42 AM  

thecpt: The only thing good about Bad Boys 2 is that is was referenced in Hot Fuzz.


I don't know... I have to admit to Bad Boys and Bod Boys 2 being guilty pleasures of mine. They're fun movies with charming leads.
 
2012-07-10 11:24:02 AM  

Rapmaster2000: I remember watching this when it came out with a really square acquaintance. In the Bill Pullman flies kickass jet scene she was like "I wish we had a President like that!" This struck me as an very dumb thing to say, and then I realized that we were both graduating from the same university in a few months. Oy vey.


So wait a minute, you think it's dumb that someone wishes we had the type of President that would willingly risk their life to save humanity instead of hide out in some underground bunker like the vast majority of our Presidents in the last 3-4 decades would have? I mean I know it's wishful thinking and all but as far as wishful thinking goes it's not all that bad.
 
2012-07-10 11:25:13 AM  

yves0010: Jim from Saint Paul: yves0010: groppet: Supes: Looks like I'm in the minority here, but I'm okay with this. I'd love to see this structured as a full scale war on Earth between the remaining humans and the aliens that survived the crash. Though knowing Emmerich that would not have enough big explosions.

/of course what I'm really praying for is a sequel to The Fifth Element...

The Sixth Element?

Yeah.. why not. Could be Korben Dallas and Leeloo's kid. which would make the kid the 6th element.

[kryptonradio.com image 369x337]

Milla still seems capablae of wearing the same outfit she wore in the first one.

MOAR OF HER please.

/hottest tiny boobed skinny chick I've ever seen

Isn't she naked in almost every movie she is in. Resident Evil and the sequels. Fifth Element I dont think shows her naked per say but still naked.


nah, you see her naked in the tube when they bring her to life initially, just before the white straps that were supposed to be clothing gets strapped to her.
 
2012-07-10 11:31:45 AM  

yves0010: groppet: Supes: Looks like I'm in the minority here, but I'm okay with this. I'd love to see this structured as a full scale war on Earth between the remaining humans and the aliens that survived the crash. Though knowing Emmerich that would not have enough big explosions.

/of course what I'm really praying for is a sequel to The Fifth Element...

The Sixth Element?

Yeah.. why not. Could be Korben Dallas and Leeloo's kid. which would make the kid the 6th element.


As long as Chris Tucker reprises his role as the intergalactic DJ Ruby Rhod, I'm good with this.
 
2012-07-10 11:37:41 AM  

yves0010: Jim from Saint Paul: yves0010: groppet: Supes: Looks like I'm in the minority here, but I'm okay with this. I'd love to see this structured as a full scale war on Earth between the remaining humans and the aliens that survived the crash. Though knowing Emmerich that would not have enough big explosions.

/of course what I'm really praying for is a sequel to The Fifth Element...

The Sixth Element?

Yeah.. why not. Could be Korben Dallas and Leeloo's kid. which would make the kid the 6th element.

[kryptonradio.com image 369x337]

Milla still seems capablae of wearing the same outfit she wore in the first one.

MOAR OF HER please.

/hottest tiny boobed skinny chick I've ever seen

Isn't she naked in almost every movie she is in. Resident Evil and the sequels. Fifth Element I dont think shows her naked per say but still naked.


She remained fully clothed throughout Dazed & Confused, which is a shame.
 
2012-07-10 11:43:43 AM  
I don't hate BB2 at all. I watch that and part 1 every time their on TV. And yep, I'll see ID4 part 2 as well, but then, I don't take this crap HALF as seriously as some of you.
 
2012-07-10 11:48:01 AM  

rickycal78: Rapmaster2000: I remember watching this when it came out with a really square acquaintance. In the Bill Pullman flies kickass jet scene she was like "I wish we had a President like that!" This struck me as an very dumb thing to say, and then I realized that we were both graduating from the same university in a few months. Oy vey.

So wait a minute, you think it's dumb that someone wishes we had the type of President that would willingly risk their life to save humanity instead of hide out in some underground bunker like the vast majority of our Presidents in the last 3-4 decades would have? I mean I know it's wishful thinking and all but as far as wishful thinking goes it's not all that bad.


Because it's a wildly unrealistic scenario. I can't even entertain for a moment that such an event would ever occur. It's a fantasy (but I suppose once we're hacking into the mainframe of an alien race we've already gone far beyond that).

But I digress, hiding in an underground bunker is the absolute right thing to do because you need order in a crisis to prevent a power vacuum. This is how coups are created.

And furthermore, why is the President the only man for the job? I have to think his training is negligent for modern equipment, his skills are rusty, and I find it hard to believe there isn't anyone hanging around an AF base who can do the job better.

It's not even like he's going Randy Quaid with the Samsonic suicide, he's just supposed to look like a kickass coolguy leader. If we're going that route then I would have preferred Kurt Russel as the president.

That's probably the reason this movie and Armageddon completely sucked for me. I'll admit that I'm probably putting too much thought into it, but seriously, hiding in the bunker is what the President should be doing. Not jetting off to take on enemy forces.
 
2012-07-10 11:49:44 AM  

LonMead: In the years before The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy, Douglas Adams had pitched a series to the BBC that was to be called "The Ends of the Earth". Each week it would have the Earth getting destroyed in in some different way after some bizarre chain of events (I think in the one episode they filmed, it started with a woman picking a flower off a tree).


Oh my GOD! They killed the Earth! YOU BASTARDS!!1!
 
2012-07-10 11:51:48 AM  
Young Thundercats

/N***A WHO THAT AT THE DOOAH?!
//you at least 30
 
2012-07-10 11:54:33 AM  
Starring Jaden Smith?
 
2012-07-10 11:58:58 AM  

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: Starring Jaden Smith?


buddy flick with...

www.realsea.net

answer the white courtesy phone...
 
2012-07-10 12:45:46 PM  
FTFA - This follows news that the original is getting a 3D re-release next summer.

Will they fix some of the effects? The slow-motion fire in LA, for instance, was especially stuttery. Also, jumping into a side room in the tunnel shouldn't have saved the chick, her kid, and their dog. They should be crispy critters. Even if the flames didn't get them, the sudden loss of oxygen as well as the intense heat would kill them dead.
 
2012-07-10 12:48:28 PM  

Lux Lambert: what are they going to blow up? Cleveland?


Cleveland already has an intergalactic guardian

2.bp.blogspot.com
 
2012-07-10 12:50:41 PM  
"Before we attack Earf, do you think we ought to research the humans to see if they posses the one technology that might destroy us?"

"You mean an Apple Powerbook and a hastily written virus?"

"Yes."

"Nah, we'll be fine."
 
2012-07-10 12:53:12 PM  

Dumb-Ass-Monkey: Also, jumping into a side room in the tunnel shouldn't have saved the chick, her kid, and their dog. They should be crispy critters. Even if the flames didn't get them, the sudden loss of oxygen as well as the intense heat would kill them dead.


They're special alien death ray flames that aren't actually flames at all. They don't radiate heat beyond their immediate location or require oxygen (this would be quite a hindrance trying to rain fiery death upon their enemies on space, so it makes sense if they found a workaround).

Of all the problems with the movie, I'm surprised that's what you gravitated towards instead of the Mac-compatible alien spaceship.
 
2012-07-10 01:00:05 PM  

Supes: Dumb-Ass-Monkey: Also, jumping into a side room in the tunnel shouldn't have saved the chick, her kid, and their dog. They should be crispy critters. Even if the flames didn't get them, the sudden loss of oxygen as well as the intense heat would kill them dead.

They're special alien death ray flames that aren't actually flames at all. They don't radiate heat beyond their immediate location or require oxygen (this would be quite a hindrance trying to rain fiery death upon their enemies on space, so it makes sense if they found a workaround).

Of all the problems with the movie, I'm surprised that's what you gravitated towards instead of the Mac-compatible alien spaceship.


The explosions were caused as much by exploding cars and such and therefore would still follow our rules of physics.
 
2012-07-10 01:04:40 PM  

The Letter Two: I have a love/hate for Independence Day: love it for the nostalgia it brings up for me since I lost my virginity just before going to see it in the theater; hate the fact that such a memorable and important event in my life is associated to such a shiatty movie. I'll still watch it if it's on, but I sure as hell don't seek it out.

Liked Bad Boys 2 as well, definitely not a good movie but still enjoy it for what it is.

/took that girl's virginity too
//and still with her after 16 years


Mom?
 
2012-07-10 01:07:42 PM  

groppet: Supes: Looks like I'm in the minority here, but I'm okay with this. I'd love to see this structured as a full scale war on Earth between the remaining humans and the aliens that survived the crash. Though knowing Emmerich that would not have enough big explosions.

/of course what I'm really praying for is a sequel to The Fifth Element...

The Sixth Element?


The Seventh Sign?

/followed by "The Adventures Of Buckaroo Banzai: Across The Eighth Dimension"?
 
2012-07-10 01:24:07 PM  

docmattic: The Letter Two: I have a love/hate for Independence Day: love it for the nostalgia it brings up for me since I lost my virginity just before going to see it in the theater; hate the fact that such a memorable and important event in my life is associated to such a shiatty movie. I'll still watch it if it's on, but I sure as hell don't seek it out.

Liked Bad Boys 2 as well, definitely not a good movie but still enjoy it for what it is.

/took that girl's virginity too
//and still with her after 16 years

Mom?


Well your mom did do that one thing with her tongue but ultimately, she was way below my standards, with the sharp knees and all.
 
2012-07-10 01:42:42 PM  

The Letter Two: docmattic: The Letter Two: I have a love/hate for Independence Day: love it for the nostalgia it brings up for me since I lost my virginity just before going to see it in the theater; hate the fact that such a memorable and important event in my life is associated to such a shiatty movie. I'll still watch it if it's on, but I sure as hell don't seek it out.

Liked Bad Boys 2 as well, definitely not a good movie but still enjoy it for what it is.

/took that girl's virginity too
//and still with her after 16 years

Mom?

Well your mom did do that one thing with her tongue but ultimately, she was way below my standards, with the sharp knees and all.


Hey, now... if you leave my mama out of this, I'll leave this out of your mama.
 
2012-07-10 02:28:34 PM  

docmattic: groppet: Supes: Looks like I'm in the minority here, but I'm okay with this. I'd love to see this structured as a full scale war on Earth between the remaining humans and the aliens that survived the crash. Though knowing Emmerich that would not have enough big explosions.

/of course what I'm really praying for is a sequel to The Fifth Element...

The Sixth Element?

The Seventh Sign?

/followed by "The Adventures Of Buckaroo Banzai: Across The Eighth Dimension"?


Nuts, beat me to it. When will we see BB vs the World Crime League?

/and find out what that watermelon was doing there.
 
2012-07-10 02:32:45 PM  
docmattic: Hey, now... if you leave my mama out of this, I'll leave this out of your mama.

Agreed.... although I do question the sanity of the man who wants to put anything in my mama.

/yes, you too, dad.
 
2012-07-10 02:35:27 PM  

Dumb-Ass-Monkey: Also, jumping into a side room in the tunnel shouldn't have saved the chick, her kid, and their dog.


That's where the movie goes to shiat for me. Not because it's unrealistic, but because a dog jumping from an explosion in slow-motion is the climax of the scene. Lame, lame, lame. But I do kind of like the buildup.
 
2012-07-10 02:42:23 PM  

chewielouie: Bad Boys 2 was actually A LOT better than the first one.


Bad Boys 2 was slicker than the first one, but I much preferred the first. I thought the chemistry was better, the bad guy was MUCH better, and Tea Leoni > Gabrielle Union.
 
2012-07-10 03:01:14 PM  
I suppose ID4.2 could have an amusing throwout to alien technology and the creation of the iPhone, since apparently all that shiat is compatible.

And wouldn't Will Smith rather do a Hancock 2?
 
2012-07-10 03:16:30 PM  

CognaciousThunk: docmattic: groppet: Supes: Looks like I'm in the minority here, but I'm okay with this. I'd love to see this structured as a full scale war on Earth between the remaining humans and the aliens that survived the crash. Though knowing Emmerich that would not have enough big explosions.

/of course what I'm really praying for is a sequel to The Fifth Element...

The Sixth Element?

The Seventh Sign?

/followed by "The Adventures Of Buckaroo Banzai: Across The Eighth Dimension"?

Nuts, beat me to it. When will we see BB vs the World Crime League?

/and find out what that watermelon was doing there.


It already came out, only they hid it under the name "Highlander II", to throw everyone off. See it as soon, see it often. (And anyone telling you the contrary is just trolling you).
 
2012-07-10 03:47:37 PM  

born_yesterday: It already came out, only they hid it under the name "Highlander II", to throw everyone off. See it as soon, see it often. (And anyone telling you the contrary is just trolling you).


You are a cruel, cruel FARKer.
 
2012-07-10 04:03:19 PM  

CognaciousThunk: I suppose ID4.2 could have an amusing throwout to alien technology and the creation of the iPhone, since apparently all that shiat is compatible.

And wouldn't Will Smith rather do a Hancock 2?


You mean "Tonight, He Comes 2"? Boy, they are lucky they didn't stay with that as the original name of the film.

He's also working on the I Am Legend prequel right?

/we'll all be posting on the "Soon to come: Wild Wild West 2, Men in Black 7, and Pursuit of Happyness 2" thread.
 
2012-07-10 04:23:08 PM  
I saw Independence Day at the theater back in the day. Good times.
 
2012-07-10 04:26:31 PM  

docmattic: born_yesterday: It already came out, only they hid it under the name "Highlander II", to throw everyone off. See it as soon, see it often. (And anyone telling you the contrary is just trolling you).

You are a cruel, cruel FARKer.


Man, that is the only movie I walked out of the theater during. ALMOST didn't go back after the intermission during Gods and Generals but I figured it HAD to pick up. It didn't...
 
2012-07-10 04:35:33 PM  

Pants_Optional: docmattic: born_yesterday: It already came out, only they hid it under the name "Highlander II", to throw everyone off. See it as soon, see it often. (And anyone telling you the contrary is just trolling you).

You are a cruel, cruel FARKer.

Man, that is the only movie I walked out of the theater during. ALMOST didn't go back after the intermission during Gods and Generals but I figured it HAD to pick up. It didn't...


That's nothing. I walked out of it too, but it was our in-flight movie.
 
2012-07-10 05:04:22 PM  
xanadian
Yeah, the aliens should change it up a bit and go after Congress.

Been done in the far superior film, Mars Attacks.
/ack ack
 
2012-07-10 05:07:14 PM  

Jim from Saint Paul:

/hottest tiny boobed skinny chick I've ever seen


Absolutely

GavinTheAlmighty: chewielouie: Bad Boys 2 was actually A LOT better than the first one.

Bad Boys 2 was slicker than the first one, but I much preferred the first. I thought the chemistry was better, the bad guy was MUCH better, and Tea Leoni > Gabrielle Union.


The hell is wrong with your eyes?
 
2012-07-10 05:48:32 PM  
mimg.ugo.com

"Give us McNeal or we will lay waste to your cities with our anti-monument laser."
 
2012-07-10 05:49:33 PM  

Callous: The hell is wrong with your eyes?


It's probably cause Gabrielle Union is black.
 
2012-07-10 06:47:22 PM  

GavinTheAlmighty: chewielouie: Bad Boys 2 was actually A LOT better than the first one.

Bad Boys 2 was slicker than the first one, but I much preferred the first. I thought the chemistry was better, the bad guy was MUCH better, and Tea Leoni > Gabrielle Union.


Tea Leoni was great back in the day, and has a really charming cuteness... But Gabrielle Union? ZOMG, a whole new level of hotness.
 
2012-07-10 07:23:31 PM  

xanadian: Flappyhead: KatjaMouse: Save for a couple of fun scenes it's overall a pretty bad/slip shod movie.

Not to mention it launched over a decades worth of Roland Emmerich "The world is ending" movies. Ooooh the White House is about to be destroyed. Yeah, been there, done that about five times already.

Yeah, the aliens should change it up a bit and go after Congress.


" do not run we are your friends"
 
2012-07-10 08:58:26 PM  
The best part of the first movie is watching Judd Hirsch play basically an over-the-top jewish caricature. Go back and watch it. Once you notice how bad it is, its all you can ever see.
 
2012-07-10 09:19:10 PM  

Wadded Beef: *Admittedly, that was awesome in the theater 16 years ago.


16 years ago...

16 years...

cripes, I feel old. I graduated high school that year.
 
2012-07-10 10:11:41 PM  
Not possible.

The only possible way that craft of the size of the ships in ID4 could have entered Earth's atmosphere without irrevocably damaging the planet is if the ships contained some sort of technology which counteracted their mass. Destroying those ships would have stopped that technology from working, thus destroying earth when they crashed into it.

Forget every other science biatching you've heard about this film. Goldblum didnt have to learn alien computer programming, the aliens bridged their computers to ours to take over our satelites and an alien race with telepathy would never have invented computer security, so despite the ending being a rip off of War of the Worlds it was still more plausible than most geeks want to admit.

In short the film could've happened as filmed but what it left out is the victory party was very shortlived. At best we saved other planets from the devastation with our martyrdom
 
2012-07-10 10:15:31 PM  

Digitalstrange: Forget every other science biatching you've heard about this film. Goldblum didnt have to learn alien computer programming, the aliens bridged their computers to ours to take over our satelites and an alien race with telepathy would never have invented computer security, so despite the ending being a rip off of War of the Worlds it was still more plausible than most geeks want to admit.


Wasn't there supposedly some sort of deleted scene from when they were in Area 51 that mentions that we developed our computer technology based off what they had there?
 
2012-07-10 10:24:37 PM  

Digitalstrange: The only possible way that craft of the size of the ships in ID4 could have entered Earth's atmosphere without irrevocably damaging the planet is if the ships contained some sort of technology which counteracted their mass. Destroying those ships would have stopped that technology from working, thus destroying earth when they crashed into it.


And one nuclear bomb couldn't evaporate a 15 mil long spacecraft.
 
2012-07-10 10:25:01 PM  
What makes me a huge loser is knowing that the novelization attempted to explain the why-didn't-they-get-cooked-in-the-tunnel scene.

IIRC, the ventilation fans for the tunnel were buried well enough to remain unaffected for the duration of the blastwave coming through (though I guess that opens up another can of worms as for where the power for the fans is coming from) but in the novel, it was the blast of air from the fans blowing on them that somehow didn't cause a backdraft and kept them from both asphyxiating and frying. Kind of a flimsy excuse but it's more than the movie attempted.
 
2012-07-11 12:54:43 AM  
Ummm, excuse me subby, but who in the hell hates Bad Boys 2? That movie was dripping with awesome from beginning to end. It, along with The Losers, The A-Team, and Paul, is still one of my go-to "rainy Sunday afternoon and it's not football season" movies.
 
2012-07-11 01:28:47 AM  

lisarenee3505: Ummm, excuse me subby, but who in the hell hates Bad Boys 2?


I didn't like it. It was about 45 minutes too long, the scenarios seemed forced, the direction was nothing Michael Bay hadn't already done before, the action sequences, save for the freeway chase, were cliched, and the jokes weren't funny.

The first one worked because there seemed to be some chemistry between the actors and the director. The second one just felt like a cynical cash grab.
 
2012-07-11 03:24:32 AM  

Digitalstrange: Not possible.

The only possible way that craft of the size of the ships in ID4 could have entered Earth's atmosphere without irrevocably damaging the planet is if the ships contained some sort of technology which counteracted their mass. Destroying those ships would have stopped that technology from working, thus destroying earth when they crashed into it.

Forget every other science biatching you've heard about this film. Goldblum didnt have to learn alien computer programming, the aliens bridged their computers to ours to take over our satelites and an alien race with telepathy would never have invented computer security, so despite the ending being a rip off of War of the Worlds it was still more plausible than most geeks want to admit.

In short the film could've happened as filmed but what it left out is the victory party was very shortlived. At best we saved other planets from the devastation with our martyrdom


=============================

Wow.. it's a movie dude. Suspend your disbelief or get over it.
 
2012-07-11 07:04:22 AM  
Hate all you want, but I loved Independence Day when it came out. Hell, I even watched one of the showings on AMC last week when they were showing it on the 4th. It's an overblown action/sci-fi movie with Jeff Goldblum in it. That's what I went into the theater expecting, and that's what I got.

The only way I'd watch a sequel is if Goldblum and Smith are still in it, and Bill Pullman gets re-elected for a second term of office.
 
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