soy_bomb: The tactic stinks of desperation. If you can't convince the voters that your policies are better, stalk the opponent at the grocery store.

/goes for both sides

So IOW you think O'Keefe's a stalker right?

There was an MSNBC host last weekend that actively and explicitly called on viewers to trespass on David Koch's property and harass him, even giving the date, time, and address of a fundraiser being held there. It was creepy, and very inappropriate. IMO the host should have been fired from the network, but I doubt he will.

You made your bed, GOP. You shower adulation on that jerkbag clown James O'Keefe and his ilk- this is exactly what you deserve.

You created this mess. You set the tone. You laid down the rules. This is your game, don't whine when someone plays it better than you do.

Sumo Surfer: Republicans are getting very concerned that voters are actually paying attention to them

Right, sitting in a car outside your house with a camera and following your movements to post on YouTube isn't creepy at all, it's "paying attention."

These Democrats would do well to drop their "well it's fair game" justification and show some class.

Seriously. You'd never see a Republican do something sleazy to win an election. This has everything to do with party affiliation.

brigid_fitch: Cool story from Obama's biography that always makes me chuckle: When Obama was running for Senate, Alan Keyes hired some douche to follow him around and catch him doing or saying something Keyes could use against him. For three days, this guy followed Obama, never being more than 10-15' behind him. After the guy followed Obama into the men's room of some hotel where he was giving a speech, Obama turned right around and walked into an area he knew where the press was waiting.

"Hey, guys--this is Jason. My opponent hired him to shadow me until the election. Why don't you ask him what he's supposed to find out?" And the press descended on the guy like a swarm of locusts and lambasted Keyes in the press the next day. The guy never followed Obama again.

BWAHAHAHA that's hilarious. I need to read that book sometime.

what_now: These are the people who think you should have to be drug tested to recieve food stamps.

These are the people who think a woman should need to undergo a painful and unnecessary ultrasound before getting a LEGAL abortion.

These are the people who think walking into a machine that strips you of dignity and has not been tested for harmful radiation is something you need to do "for freedom".

These are the people who believe in no knock warrants.

These are the people who think Hispanic people should carry their citizenship documentations at all time.

These are people who support warrentless wiretapping.

thank you

/I am in favor of daily mandatory drug, alcohol and tobacco testing of all public officers and candidates.
/I am also in favor in injecting them with a GPS tracker and making the data available online, 24x7.

And then there's McConnel who says outrageous crap (like intentionally crashing the economy to prevent President Obama's second term, or 30,000,000 uninsured Americans "isn't the issue") when there's obviously a camera recording him. Yet he likely won't leave office until he decides to retire, so I guess "paying attention" is relative.

Sumo Surfer: Republicans are getting very concerned that voters are actually paying attention to them

Right, sitting in a car outside your house with a camera and following your movements to post on YouTube isn't creepy at all, it's "paying attention."

These Democrats would do well to drop their "well it's fair game" justification and show some class.

Taking the high road hasn't helped. The GOP has made it clear they're going to do whatever they can, including sabatoging the economy and this country, to win. This is the party who tells you that if you have nothing to hide you have nothing to fear, that warrantless wiretaps are good, that brown people should have to carry papers proving they're here legally, that supports secret prisons and detention for anyone labled an "enemy combatant", puts target reticles on their opponents and sends scumbag liars into the offices of people they don't like to get footage they can edit to amke it look like something underhanded was going on.

This is the party that thought it was OK to out a CIA agent because democrats. They support laws that make it possible to arrest or detain people who film police officers in public.

The GOP and the right wing are about abrogation of privacy in our lives, healthcare, relationships, homes and business decisions. Nobody on the right has any ground to stand on when someone points a camera at their house.

This is not and never has been about "class". The American public does not respect "class" or civility. The American public does not care if you're polite- in fact, it is seen as a weakness.

In 1995 the American Coalition of Life Activists (ACLA) circulated this poster which lists the names, home and work addresses of doctors who perform abortions. This group has also assembled dossiers on abortion providers, politicians, judges, clinic employees and other abortion rights supporters. The ACLA won a lawsuit over this because they DID NOT DIRECTLY THREATEN these doctors.

The 7th name on this list is that of George Tiller, who, while attending church, was shot to death by an anti-abortion activist.



I agree that following people around, filming them and their homes, and posting that information on the internet is creepy.
Where did these tea bagger freshmen congressmen stand on this issue when their anti-abortion allies were stalking Dr. Tiller?

Let's be clear about this: These congressmen don't give a rat's ass about your privacy or your legal rights. They champion some of the most intrusive government policies this country has ever seen. Given the chance they would dictate your religion, your sexual activities, your health care choices and they would spy on you constantly, keeping track of where you go, what you say and do, what you read and what you write. This is especially true if you don't happen to be white.

So the tea baggers can complain and whine about being filmed and followed, but their behavior warrants this sort of scrutiny. They aren't the sort of people you really want to trust. Don't take your eye off them, because they are vicious and vile and dangerous.

If they were smart, they'd spin the attention into something harmless. Dress the entire family up as superheros and walk outside or other equally pointless ideas. Hell, give a speech while dresses a Batman, just to know that it gets on Youtube. A simple "people will laugh because I'm dressed funny, but they will listen to my message" setup could yield huge results.

But, this is the GOP. They'll be pissy and complain about the lost dignity, then return to stapling tea bags to their made-in-china-hat.

brantgoose: It's not like Senator George Allen hasn't pointed out the trained Macaques working for the Demo-Fat Cats to his adoring and like-minded langue-de-bois talking public.

I like that sentence. I like it.

Don't Troll Me Bro!: DjangoStonereaver: This from the same crowd who has lionized this douchebag:

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Karma? How does it work?

Nothing screams "born of lionstock, don't f*ck with" quite like a pinstripe suit, pink and white vertical striped shirt, and polka-dot tie, all complimented by thick-framed, crooked glasses resting atop stereotypical jew-nose.

To me, it just looks like a nose that's been broken one too many times. Whether by a jealous lover, a rough trick or countless incidents on middle-school playgrounds is an exercise for the reader.