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(Lansing State Journal)   If a street gang has already tried to kill you five times, you *will* be leaving town. It is just a question of timing and what kind of vehicle you will be in   (lansingstatejournal.com) divider line 56
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2012-07-09 11:38:03 AM
Well... that's one way to get the hell out of Michigan.
 
2012-07-09 11:38:41 AM
Get the lead out, Dom ...
 
2012-07-09 11:40:03 AM
Some guy got shot in Detroit? No shiat.
 
2012-07-09 11:41:13 AM

BurnShrike: Some guy got shot in Detroit? No shiat.


Lansing is an hour and a half west of Detroit in the middle of the state.
 
2012-07-09 11:41:49 AM
Dunnings said the two factions are not gangs, and Blackwell was adamant that her son wasn't involved in a gang.
"What they are, is a group of people who are associated (and) they are feuding with another group of people who are associates," Dunnings said.


So pretty much gangs
 
2012-07-09 11:42:36 AM

Yakk: BurnShrike: Some guy got shot in Detroit? No shiat.

Lansing is an hour and a half west of Detroit in the middle of the state.


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2012-07-09 11:43:45 AM
So, the prosecutor says they aren't a gang? If they had a name I bet he'd consider them one.
 
2012-07-09 11:45:16 AM
dang what a deal
 
2012-07-09 11:46:57 AM

big pig peaches: Dunnings said the two factions are not gangs, and Blackwell was adamant that her son wasn't involved in a gang.
"What they are, is a group of people who are associated (and) they are feuding with another group of people who are associates," Dunnings said.


So pretty much gangs


^^^^^
THIS
 
2012-07-09 11:46:59 AM
You have two ways of leaving this establishment, my friend. Immediately or dead.
 
2012-07-09 11:49:02 AM
Probably one of the "football players" from MSU that shot him.
 
2012-07-09 11:49:26 AM
"Lord... I need guidance... I need your advice... if I am supposed to move out of this town, please give me a sign... *
(shooting outside, bullets flying in window)
"Damn, another drive-by! I'm sorry Lord, if you gave me a sign during that drive-by, I missed it... can you send another one?"
 
2012-07-09 11:50:52 AM
His association's name is "Polaner". Whatever you do, don't call them a gang.
 
2012-07-09 11:55:44 AM
When I first read the headline I wondered, "What part of Detroit is this story located". I am sad to find out that it's Lansing but not too surprised. The problems of Detroit spread throughout the state. I left years ago.
 
2012-07-09 11:58:59 AM
FTA: Ardister was reportedly a passenger in a vehicle that was struck by bullets. Dennis Wardlaw, 23, of Lansing is charged with misdemeanor reckless use of a firearm in the incident.

Wait wait wait. It's only a misdemeanor to shoot up an occupied car?
 
2012-07-09 12:00:28 PM
"associates in an ongoing dispute" that no one can define?

DRUGS/DRUG DEALING
 
2012-07-09 12:00:32 PM

big pig peaches: Dunnings said the two factions are not gangs, and Blackwell was adamant that her son wasn't involved in a gang.
"What they are, is a group of people who are associated (and) they are feuding with another group of people who are associates," Dunnings said.


So pretty much gangs


Could just be a quilting circle. You know, exercising their Second Amendment rights and all.
 
2012-07-09 12:11:27 PM

big pig peaches: Dunnings said the two factions are not gangs, and Blackwell was adamant that her son wasn't involved in a gang.
"What they are, is a group of people who are associated (and) they are feuding with another group of people who are associates," Dunnings said.


So pretty much gangs


They're not a gang, they're a club.
 
2012-07-09 12:11:51 PM
Lansing? As in the place they lived on Roseanne's show?

I always imagined it was trailer park-ish. So in that case, no, theyre not a gang. Theyre gypsies.
 
2012-07-09 12:15:20 PM
I'm shocked that Mr "turning his life around" 29-year-old "man" who lives with his mother could be involved in so much stupidity.
 
2012-07-09 12:17:37 PM

big pig peaches: Dunnings said the two factions are not gangs, and Blackwell was adamant that her son wasn't involved in a gang.
"What they are, is a group of people who are associated (and) they are feuding with another group of people who are associates," Dunnings said.


So pretty much gangs


I loved this quote. I'm not an asshole, I'm a person who says offensive things to people in an attempt to hurt their feelings.
 
2012-07-09 12:28:46 PM
Couldn't one of you guys help him stand up to his bullies?
 
2012-07-09 12:29:25 PM
O RLY?

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2012-07-09 12:29:59 PM
Dunnings said the two factions are not gangs, and Blackwell was adamant that her son wasn't involved in a gang.
"What they are, is a group of people who are associated (and) they are feuding with another group of people who are associates," Dunnings said.


Oh, I see...

theunitedwest.org
 
2012-07-09 12:30:01 PM

Noobian Noob: Lansing? As in the place they lived on Roseanne's show?

I always imagined it was trailer park-ish. So in that case, no, theyre not a gang. Theyre gypsies.


No, that was Lanford, Illinois.
 
2012-07-09 12:31:47 PM

Noobian Noob: Lansing? As in the place they lived on Roseanne's show?


That's Lanford, Illinois
 
2012-07-09 12:31:55 PM
www.webtvwire.com
 
2012-07-09 12:35:50 PM
way too many sterotypes in that article to count.
 
2012-07-09 12:36:17 PM
I've never understood why anyone would stick around after the second time. First time's a gimme, "Ooops my bad, I meant to shoot him not you" Second time though, I'd just as soon knock over a dealer somewhere else.

Oh and thanks Subby- I have only Seven Free Views left of that rag.
 
2012-07-09 12:47:11 PM
Should've called them
 
2012-07-09 12:48:05 PM

ontariolightning: Should've called them


Pic was too large

it was a pic of Mike,Sam, Fi on Burn Notice
 
2012-07-09 12:48:36 PM
The guy was lucky as hell; survived 5 attempts on his life? Most people don't survive one. It's the law of probability; you can flip a coin and get heads 5 times in a row; but, eventually, you will get tails.

/ the IRA used the same tactics during the 80's; you have to be lucky all the time; where as, they only have to be lucky once.
 
2012-07-09 12:48:39 PM
Dunnings said the two factions are not gangs, and Blackwell was adamant that her son wasn't involved in a gang.

Sigh. The endless refrain of a gangbanger's mom.

I realize that no mother wants to admit that their child turned into a thug, but jeez, that trope is more played out than a two-dollar hooker. Every time some thug gets capped, the media interviews the mom ("My boy was a God-fearing honor student!"), the girlfriend ("He had big plans to become a whale biologist!"), and the teachers ("He was a bright boy but he made some bad choices."). No comments from the dad usually because the elder gent usually can't be found or is in jail himself.

In some places like Detroit, Chicago's south side, and Compton in L.A., gang-life is now a third- or fourth-generation lifestyle. Two things make this possible: the welfare state and our insane drug laws.

The sad thing is that most of these young thugs are past redemption. Unless you catch them early and put them on an alternate path, by the time they're 18, gangbangers are pretty much a lost cause. Oh, a small number of them break orbit and achieve escape velocity -- but most don't. And while black community leaders bleat about white racism, a young black man's greatest hazard to life and limb is other young black men.
 
2012-07-09 12:57:04 PM
Interesting bit of gang trivia: Chicago's Conservative Vice Lords received a $150,000 grant from the Rockefeller Foundation in 1967. Predictably, things didn't turn out well.
 
2012-07-09 12:57:34 PM

420_Yo: big pig peaches: Dunnings said the two factions are not gangs, and Blackwell was adamant that her son wasn't involved in a gang.
"What they are, is a group of people who are associated (and) they are feuding with another group of people who are associates," Dunnings said.


So pretty much gangs

^^^^^
THIS


Oh, c'mon, they could simply be parents in two Little League teams.
 
2012-07-09 01:03:51 PM

iheartscotch: The guy was lucky as hell; survived 5 attempts on his life? Most people don't survive one. It's the law of probability; you can flip a coin and get heads 5 times in a row; but, eventually, you will get tails.

/ the IRA used the same tactics during the 80's; you have to be lucky all the time; where as, they only have to be lucky once.


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How about 92 times? Do you still die?
 
2012-07-09 01:09:42 PM
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2012-07-09 01:27:54 PM

bluesbox: Sigh. The endless refrain of a gangbanger's mom.


bluesbox: In some places like Detroit, Chicago's south side, and Compton in L.A., gang-life is now a third- or fourth-generation lifestyle.


Which is why these moms always seem so surprised. When casual, minor violence is a way of life, then it can seem way out of left field when fistfights escalate into drive bys. What I want to know is when people absolutely lost the ceiling for violence. If old movies are to be believed, a fist fight used to be a gentlemanly thing. Two men would step outside, remove their coats, pummel each other and then shake hands afterwords. Why could people of the past do this without escalating into homocide? Why can't we?

The farked up thing is, I read somewhere that because of the flood of drugs on the market, the drug trade and gang banging isn't even that lucrative of a business anymore. So instead of killing each other over a 100k a week drug slinging location, they're shooting each other just because.
 
2012-07-09 01:38:03 PM
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2012-07-09 01:50:19 PM
What I want to know is when people absolutely lost the ceiling for violence. If old movies are to be believed, a fist fight used to be a gentlemanly thing.

Never was such a time. The old Five Points gangs in New York were vicious. 1920's gangland Chicago was probably more murderous than it is now. Thugs have been just as vicious and cruel in times past as they are now -- probably more so. People who have romanticised "West Side Story" ideas of gang life are way, way off. Violence, extortion, bribery, vice, and murder are the tools of the gangland trade, and always have been.

It's a weird artifact of modern life that violent crime is actually down by quite a bit from what it used to be in many cities: Chicago logged more than 940 murders a year early in the 90's as the crack wars played out; that number is down to less than half that now. The same trend is playing out in New York and L.A. Baltimore and St. Louis haven't improved much, though, and New Orleans' crime rate only sank when Katrina chased all the thugs over into Houston.
 
2012-07-09 02:12:18 PM
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2012-07-09 02:23:25 PM

drewogatory: FTA: Ardister was reportedly a passenger in a vehicle that was struck by bullets. Dennis Wardlaw, 23, of Lansing is charged with misdemeanor reckless use of a firearm in the incident.

Wait wait wait. It's only a misdemeanor to shoot up an occupied car?


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2012-07-09 03:17:57 PM

X-Geek: iheartscotch: The guy was lucky as hell; survived 5 attempts on his life? Most people don't survive one. It's the law of probability; you can flip a coin and get heads 5 times in a row; but, eventually, you will get tails.

/ the IRA used the same tactics during the 80's; you have to be lucky all the time; where as, they only have to be lucky once.

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How about 92 times? Do you still die?


Yes, every time.
 
2012-07-09 03:40:12 PM
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2012-07-09 04:08:27 PM

bluesbox: What I want to know is when people absolutely lost the ceiling for violence. If old movies are to be believed, a fist fight used to be a gentlemanly thing.

Never was such a time. The old Five Points gangs in New York were vicious. 1920's gangland Chicago was probably more murderous than it is now. Thugs have been just as vicious and cruel in times past as they are now -- probably more so. People who have romanticised "West Side Story" ideas of gang life are way, way off. Violence, extortion, bribery, vice, and murder are the tools of the gangland trade, and always have been.


What?! You mean gangs didn't use to battle by dance?!
 
2012-07-09 04:46:11 PM

stormyaaron: bluesbox: What I want to know is when people absolutely lost the ceiling for violence. If old movies are to be believed, a fist fight used to be a gentlemanly thing.

Never was such a time. The old Five Points gangs in New York were vicious. 1920's gangland Chicago was probably more murderous than it is now. Thugs have been just as vicious and cruel in times past as they are now -- probably more so. People who have romanticised "West Side Story" ideas of gang life are way, way off. Violence, extortion, bribery, vice, and murder are the tools of the gangland trade, and always have been.

What?! You mean gangs didn't use to battle by dance?!


Only the moonwalking black gangs of the 80's did that.
 
2012-07-09 04:48:02 PM
No Lansing Farkers wanna out themselves? When I visited, that town was pleasant, but depressing or something.
 
2012-07-09 05:02:20 PM

Stinkyy: No Lansing Farkers wanna out themselves? When I visited, that town was pleasant, but depressing or something.


I work in Lansing.
 
2012-07-09 05:32:36 PM
Hey, I thought Cats had nine lives...
 
2012-07-09 05:34:34 PM

iheartscotch: The guy was lucky as hell; survived 5 attempts on his life? Most people don't survive one. It's the law of probability; you can flip a coin and get heads 5 times in a row; but, eventually, you will get tails.

/ the IRA used the same tactics during the 80's; you have to be lucky all the time; where as, they only have to be lucky once.


I don't know what stats you are pulling from. Most shootings around here do not result in a fatality or injury. A lot of shootings are more than one person shooting and they still rarely hit someone. This story sounds like the same shooter, who finally figured to go to a shooting range. This wasn't law of probability, it was the law of practice makes perfect.
 
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