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(ESPN)   Did you miss seeing Brewers' Zach Greinke's last pitching start? Well, it might be because he was tossed out of the game after four pitches (w/video)   (scores.espn.go.com) divider line 103
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2012-07-09 09:56:40 AM  
The ump is an idiot for tossing him out of the game for that. Lighten up, Francis.
 
2012-07-09 10:03:29 AM  

Mark Ratner: The ump is an idiot for tossing him out of the game for that. Lighten up, Francis.


But the fans show up amd watch the game on tv for HIM. He HAS to put on a show!


/smrtbasebal
 
2012-07-09 10:09:32 AM  

SilentStrider: Mark Ratner: The ump is an idiot for tossing him out of the game for that. Lighten up, Francis.

But the fans show up amd watch the game on tv for HIM. He HAS to put on a show! /smrtbasebal


I'm sure the smrt fans will show up soon to point out how this moment highlighting the human element made the game more awesome for the fans who showed up to watch Greinke and got Livan Hernandez instead. Then they'll check in their fantasy umpire league.
 
2012-07-09 11:03:21 AM  
No, I'm pretty sure his last start lasted 3 innings.
 
2012-07-09 11:05:32 AM  
I mean, this was a dumb move on the ump's part, and I'm not saying he was right or anything, but you don't see guys spike equipment like that in baseball all that often.
 
2012-07-09 11:11:27 AM  

Mark Ratner: The ump is an idiot for tossing him out of the game for that. Lighten up, Francis.


The year of the terrible umpire marches on.
 
2012-07-09 11:13:34 AM  
It would have been funnier if the mods had locked this thread after four posts.
 
2012-07-09 11:13:40 AM  
Brett Lawrie knows your pain.
 
2012-07-09 11:20:11 AM  
I saw his last start. It went 3 innings, shiats, 3 ER, 5 K, 2 BB.

His start BEFORE that one went 4 pitches.

/ducks
 
2012-07-09 11:21:05 AM  
filterpwned. five hits. you happy filter? five. Not 5.
 
2012-07-09 11:21:47 AM  
My guess is he also shouted something.

But the umpire has to be a man, unless dude is up in your face you let shiat go as there is just as much chance he was yelling at himself for giving up a run to the 2nd batter on an infield hit, as he was at the call.
 
2012-07-09 11:22:02 AM  
Laughed like heck when it happened. Hate Zach with a passion
 
2012-07-09 11:25:05 AM  

rag819: I saw his last start. It went 3 innings, shiats, 3 ER, 5 K, 2 BB.


I'm glad there isn't video of that. Zach has enough anxiety issues without it.
 
2012-07-09 11:29:28 AM  
He should find a way to only pitch 2 innings on Friday, then get the start again on Saturday to set the record for starting four straight games.
 
2012-07-09 11:29:47 AM  
Much better video here (new window)
 
2012-07-09 11:32:09 AM  
Zach never had any class. Hope this pushes over the edge.
 
2012-07-09 11:32:35 AM  

Donnchadha: He should find a way to only pitch 2 innings on Friday, then get the start again on Saturday to set the record for starting four straight games.


The modern (post-1901) record, maybe. But the all-time major league record is something like 25 straight starts.
 
2012-07-09 11:34:08 AM  

Mid_mo_mad_man: Zach never had any class. Hope this pushes him over the edge.

 
2012-07-09 11:38:11 AM  

Palmer Eldritch: It would have been funnier if the mods had locked this thread after four posts.


Heh, reminds me I've got a screencap of a New Jersey Devils thread that some mod locked at 666 posts.
 
2012-07-09 11:41:02 AM  

DoBeDoBeDo: My guess is he also shouted something.

But the umpire has to be a man, unless dude is up in your face you let shiat go as there is just as much chance he was yelling at himself for giving up a run to the 2nd batter on an infield hit, as he was at the call.


He didn't. His immediate reaction was surprise, as in "wait wait wait... what just happened?". He clearly was just frustrated that he didn't cover the base in time. If you read his lips, as they showed on SportsCenter, he said nothing until after the ejection at which point he was still remarkably calm and just said "I'm mad at myself, I'm mad at myself". A player mad at the ump would react to the ejection differently, I'm quite sure.

Anyway, he should have gotten a warning or maybe even a fine from MLB or whatever. But to remove him from the entire game for one brief expression of frustration is awful officiating. It's the equivalent of suspending a hitter for five games for slamming his bat into the ground after swinging and missing at strike three. It's also stupid that if he had thrown at a batter's head he would have gotten the same punishment.
 
2012-07-09 11:41:21 AM  

Pabby: Much better video here (new window)


Lol, Zach didn't even look at the ump.

I love it. The ump knows. He's got this look on his face like "What do you expect me to do? I can't be the first umpire in 100 years to un-eject a guy. Do you know the dressing down I'm going to get for this from Selig? I don't want to be doing this in Pawtucket and Omaha next year."
 
2012-07-09 11:54:21 AM  

DeWayne Mann: Donnchadha: He should find a way to only pitch 2 innings on Friday, then get the start again on Saturday to set the record for starting four straight games.

The modern (post-1901) record, maybe. But the all-time major league record is something like 25 straight starts.


Old Hoss Radbourn 1884. Started 79 of 114 total games and 40 of the last 43 games for the Providence Grays. Won every game of the 1884 World Series (3 for 3). Greatest year ever for a baseball player, 18.6 WAR. Probably did it all with the syphilis that killed him. Link

\I follow him on twitter.
 
2012-07-09 11:57:48 AM  
The kick in the balls is that he ended up with the loss.
 
2012-07-09 11:57:51 AM  

Mid_mo_mad_man: Mid_mo_mad_man: Zach never had any class. Hope this pushes him over the edge.


Why so much hate? You'd think he farked your mom or something.
 
2012-07-09 11:58:01 AM  
Last start, subby? He started Sunday, not his best work but he's never been the same on the road.

/He'll start first game back from the break too.
 
2012-07-09 11:58:22 AM  
So obviously this means baseball is even worse than FIFA, and NFL officials will be trained to officiate baseball games during their off-seasons starting next year.

/And video replay / manager's challenges
 
2012-07-09 12:00:25 PM  

Donnchadha: He should find a way to only pitch 2 innings on Friday, then get the start again on Saturday to set the record for starting four straight games.


He is slated to start Friday, so he will get 3 consecutive starts if he isn't traded or that changes.
 
2012-07-09 12:03:01 PM  

Donnchadha: He should find a way to only pitch 2 innings on Friday, then get the start again on Saturday to set the record for starting four straight games.


Old Hoss Radbourn laughs at your puny concept of a "record".

His 1884 season: Started 73 of his team's 114 games. Threw 73 complete games, because relievers are for sissies. Thanks to extra innings, that meant 678.2 IP, with a 1.38 ERA when the league ERA was 2.98.

He had a 59-12 record, and his team ran away with the division by 10.5 games. He then started Games 1, 2, and 3 of the three-game 1884 World Series, with 3 complete games, and an ERA of 0.00.

He also batted .230 in his free time, bedded at least five of your female ancestors, and his Twitter feed is funnier than yours.

He also is responsible for the premiere pitching simulation of all times: Old Hoss Baseball 1K884. It includes 5 pitches: Ball, Strike, and three types of beanball.
 
2012-07-09 12:08:10 PM  

chimp_ninja: Donnchadha: He should find a way to only pitch 2 innings on Friday, then get the start again on Saturday to set the record for starting four straight games.

Old Hoss Radbourn laughs at your puny concept of a "record".

His 1884 season: Started 73 of his team's 114 games. Threw 73 complete games, because relievers are for sissies. Thanks to extra innings, that meant 678.2 IP, with a 1.38 ERA when the league ERA was 2.98.

He had a 59-12 record, and his team ran away with the division by 10.5 games. He then started Games 1, 2, and 3 of the three-game 1884 World Series, with 3 complete games, and an ERA of 0.00.

He also batted .230 in his free time, bedded at least five of your female ancestors, and his Twitter feed is funnier than yours.

He also is responsible for the premiere pitching simulation of all times: Old Hoss Baseball 1K884. It includes 5 pitches: Ball, Strike, and three types of beanball.


Oh sure, I go out and do all sorts of actual analysis for the Lincecum thread, and meanwhile you just swoop in here and steal all the funny Old Hoss references.
 
2012-07-09 12:09:59 PM  

DeWayne Mann: Donnchadha: He should find a way to only pitch 2 innings on Friday, then get the start again on Saturday to set the record for starting four straight games.

The modern (post-1901) record, maybe. But the all-time major league record is something like 25 straight starts.


Yeah, when you look at what pitchers used to do, it's just mind boggling compared to current trends.

Cy Young has 511 wins. Today, a 20 win season is impressive -- so you'd have to do that every year for 26 years to equal or surpass that mark. Then again, he probably pitched every day and wasn't part of a 4 or 5 man rotation.
 
2012-07-09 12:13:01 PM  

jayhawk88: Pabby: Much better video here (new window)

Lol, Zach didn't even look at the ump.

I love it. The ump knows. He's got this look on his face like "What do you expect me to do? I can't be the first umpire in 100 years to un-eject a guy. Do you know the dressing down I'm going to get for this from Selig? I don't want to be doing this in Pawtucket and Omaha next year."


"...So I'll just eject the manager too."
 
2012-07-09 12:14:46 PM  

chimp_ninja: He also is responsible for the premiere pitching simulation of all times: Old Hoss Baseball 1K884. It includes 5 pitches: Ball, Strike, and three types of beanball.


Game's busted. Runner scored from third on a two-out groundout.

/shallow and pedantic
 
2012-07-09 12:15:29 PM  
Heaven forbid a highly competitive athlete in a competitive situation displays a brief, exterior show of emotion. Greinke not only disparaged the sanctity of the sport, but ruined the innocence of all children that were present in the stands.
 
2012-07-09 12:16:58 PM  

Mid_mo_mad_man: Zach never had any class. Hope this pushes over the edge.


Trade him to Baltimore, then you can watch him suffer the rest of the season.
 
2012-07-09 12:18:35 PM  

Donnchadha: Yeah, when you look at what pitchers used to do, it's just mind boggling compared to current trends.


This is why a lot of the people who argue that baseball should never change (DH, replay, more teams in the playoffs, etc) are just clearly wrong.
 
2012-07-09 12:20:35 PM  

CommiePuddin: chimp_ninja: He also is responsible for the premiere pitching simulation of all times: Old Hoss Baseball 1K884. It includes 5 pitches: Ball, Strike, and three types of beanball.

Game's busted. Runner scored from third on a two-out groundout.

/shallow and pedantic


It seems fair to penalize you for leaving a baserunner with two functioning legs. Real pitchers win when the other team can no longer field a healthy lineup.
 
2012-07-09 12:21:06 PM  
A pitcher crying about a call? Say it isn't so....

l.yimg.com

Welcome to the MLB.

/Good for the ump
//Grow up Greinke
 
2012-07-09 12:22:32 PM  

DeWayne Mann: (DH, replay, more teams in the playoffs, etc)


But those things all suck! The DH, ok, that's an argument that's been going on forever.

Replay, if it's ever implemented, is going to be done in some horrifically stupid way. Manager's challenges that let managers buy time for a reliever to warm up, when a guy was out at 1st by 6 steps. A system where a fifth umpire is watching in a booth with an "overrule" button that they can hit within 15 seconds of a call, sure.

More teams in the playoffs? But then I wouldn't have spent all offseason laughing at the Braves and Red Sox. Let me have that.
 
2012-07-09 12:23:16 PM  

Killer Cars: Heaven forbid a highly competitive athlete in a competitive situation displays a brief, exterior show of emotion. Greinke not only disparaged the sanctity of the sport, but ruined the innocence of all children that were present in the stands.


He could have at least saved it for the next batter. That's really the only acceptable way for a pitcher to show emotion.
 
2012-07-09 12:32:50 PM  

Dafatone: DeWayne Mann: (DH, replay, more teams in the playoffs, etc)

But those things all suck! The DH, ok, that's an argument that's been going on forever.

Replay, if it's ever implemented, is going to be done in some horrifically stupid way. Manager's challenges that let managers buy time for a reliever to warm up, when a guy was out at 1st by 6 steps. A system where a fifth umpire is watching in a booth with an "overrule" button that they can hit within 15 seconds of a call, sure.

More teams in the playoffs? But then I wouldn't have spent all offseason laughing at the Braves and Red Sox. Let me have that.


I'm not saying that there aren't legitimate arguments against those things.

I'm saying the argument "Baseball shouldn't change" is a crock.
 
2012-07-09 12:33:39 PM  

chimp_ninja: CommiePuddin: chimp_ninja: He also is responsible for the premiere pitching simulation of all times: Old Hoss Baseball 1K884. It includes 5 pitches: Ball, Strike, and three types of beanball.

Game's busted. Runner scored from third on a two-out groundout.

/shallow and pedantic

It seems fair to penalize you for leaving a baserunner with two functioning legs. Real pitchers win when the other team can no longer field a healthy lineup.


Fair point.

I revamped my game strategy and won by forfeit in the 4th inning by maiming all 11 players on the opposing side.
 
2012-07-09 12:35:11 PM  
By the way, my favorite thing about Old Hoss 1K884? If you peg enough batters, you win by forfeit. Went into the ninth one time ACTUALLY LOSING and pulled out a win that way.
 
2012-07-09 12:35:47 PM  

CommiePuddin: chimp_ninja: CommiePuddin: chimp_ninja: He also is responsible for the premiere pitching simulation of all times: Old Hoss Baseball 1K884. It includes 5 pitches: Ball, Strike, and three types of beanball.

Game's busted. Runner scored from third on a two-out groundout.

/shallow and pedantic

It seems fair to penalize you for leaving a baserunner with two functioning legs. Real pitchers win when the other team can no longer field a healthy lineup.

Fair point.

I revamped my game strategy and won by forfeit in the 4th inning by maiming all 11 players on the opposing side.


STOP STEALING MY THOUGHTS, PEOPLE.
 
2012-07-09 12:37:09 PM  

Dafatone:

More teams in the playoffs? But then I wouldn't have spent all offseason laughing at the Braves and Red Sox. Let me have that.


You might be able to laugh at them more. Imagine if the O's nabbed the 5th spot over boston?
 
2012-07-09 12:37:18 PM  

Granolabar: He could have at least saved it for the next batter. That's really the only acceptable way for a pitcher to show emotion.


Yup. Throwing the ball at dirt: disgusting human being. Throwing the ball at an opposing player: "part of the game"
 
2012-07-09 12:40:38 PM  

thecpt: Dafatone:

More teams in the playoffs? But then I wouldn't have spent all offseason laughing at the Braves and Red Sox. Let me have that.

You might be able to laugh at them more. Imagine if the O's nabbed the 5th spot over boston?


If their chances of making the playoffs, based on how the last games of the year are going, dropped from like 97% to 0 in a second or two, okay.

Though really, I'm more interested in laughing at the Braves, and a little upset that the Red Sox stole all their suck thunder.
 
2012-07-09 12:41:31 PM  

thecpt: Brett Lawrie knows your pain.


If I remember that story correctly, he threw his helmet AT the ump while swearing AT the ump. If I am wrong, please correct me.

sid244: A pitcher crying about a call? Say it isn't so....

[l.yimg.com image 630x474]

Welcome to the MLB.

/Good for the ump
//Grow up Greinke


Uhhh...he wasn't crying about the call, which is why his ejection was BS. Welcome to Fark?
 
2012-07-09 12:42:55 PM  

roc6783: thecpt: Brett Lawrie knows your pain.

If I remember that story correctly, he threw his helmet AT the ump while swearing AT the ump. If I am wrong, please correct me.


He really just sort of spiked the helmet down and forward, in the direction of the ump. I think that suspension was warranted, but he didn't quite mean to throw the helmet at the ump. If he did, it would have been worse.
 
2012-07-09 12:46:03 PM  

Killer Cars: Granolabar: He could have at least saved it for the next batter. That's really the only acceptable way for a pitcher to show emotion.

Yup. Throwing the ball at dirt: disgusting human being. Throwing the ball at an opposing player: "part of the game"


Greinke should be familiar with this rule. Milwaukee is the most hit team in baseball. Hardly a game goes by that some pitcher doesn't feel the need to leave a baseball sized bruise on Ryan Braun's back.
 
2012-07-09 12:46:16 PM  

chimp_ninja: Donnchadha: He should find a way to only pitch 2 innings on Friday, then get the start again on Saturday to set the record for starting four straight games.

Old Hoss Radbourn laughs at your puny concept of a "record".

His 1884 season: Started 73 of his team's 114 games. Threw 73 complete games, because relievers are for sissies. Thanks to extra innings, that meant 678.2 IP, with a 1.38 ERA when the league ERA was 2.98.

He had a 59-12 record, and his team ran away with the division by 10.5 games. He then started Games 1, 2, and 3 of the three-game 1884 World Series, with 3 complete games, and an ERA of 0.00.

He also batted .230 in his free time, bedded at least five of your female ancestors, and his Twitter feed is funnier than yours.

He also is responsible for the premiere pitching simulation of all times: Old Hoss Baseball 1K884. It includes 5 pitches: Ball, Strike, and three types of beanball.


That game was awesome. My best result yet:

Score: 4 - 19
Inning: 4, you win by forfeit
Batsmen faced: 19
Batters maimed or killed: 11
Strikeouts: 0

Last play:
The batsman played through the pain of his first injury, but losing a body part to the latest pitch is too much for him, and the weakling bows out of the game.

With no one left to step into the batter's box, the opposing team has no option but to forfeit. You're loath to leave the field without maiming at least one more enemy, but you'll have to wait until tomorrow's game.
 
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