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(The Hollywood Reporter)   Katie Holmes is Scientology's "biggest nightmare"   (hollywoodreporter.com) divider line 32
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2012-07-09 07:31:49 AM  
7 votes:
I thought reality was Scientology's biggest nightmare.
2012-07-09 11:46:05 AM  
4 votes:

blunttrauma: L. Ron Hubbard is was a hack Science Fiction writer. That is all.


FTFY.
2012-07-09 11:22:46 AM  
3 votes:
The more I shamelessly follow this story, the more i notice that the body posture of Katie has recently showed complete aversion to Tom. Like in this article, she's "holding" his hand (ok, more likely he's got a death grip on her) but she's physically leaning away from him, while also looking at a phone. What I just now noticed in the same picture, is that Suri has a similar posture. It's like a bubble of batshiat crazy is literally pushing them away from him.
2012-07-09 01:00:45 PM  
2 votes:

zappaisfrank: I've hated Tom Cruise ever since he got with Nicole Kidman. Something about seeing a tall, gorgeous woman with some sawed off little pipsqueak like him that just makes me all stabby..

/tall guy who hates seeing tall women with short guys


See, for me, the Cruise hate has always been kinda on the backburner: I never got what my girlfriends saw in him. I remember having to spend Friday nights seeing Risky Business just because I got outvoted on which movie we'd see. Ugh!

It went to full-scale loathing once he went on his anti-psychology/drug rant. How farking DARE he speak as an 'expert' on post-partum depression. Seriously just sent me into a vortex of hate for him, and while I fully realize that my disdain for this little mutant man doesn't even register the most microscopic of blips in the universe's 'Top Bajillion concerns for the day' chart...I won't pay to see his movies. If I am outnumbered on my group's movie nights, If he is in it, I buy a ticket to another movie, and roll my eyes at his laughable attempts at emoting. (I've read that his contracts all contain payment clauses of a percentage of box office, and I'll be damned if I give that weaselly little worm one dime towards spouting more of his anti-psychology herp-a-derp.)

It also doesn't help him that I will NEVER, EVER get my life back that was lost sitting through Eyes Wide Shut.
2012-07-09 12:30:29 PM  
2 votes:

Killer Cars: Myria: Does David Miscavige actually believe in his religion, or is he aware that it's a scam, and he just leads it for evil personal gain?

Oh I'm sure he knows he's bilking the sh*t out of gullible people. There's various clips of Jason Beghe (actor and ex-$cientologist) around on Youtube talking about his dealings with him...apparently many of the "courses" you have to take (and of course pay for) are constantly being re-worked while at the present time always being sold as "the correct, complete" version of said course, and yet when invariably the "updated" version of a particular course comes out, you're told to pay yet again to take an updated version of something you already paid thousands of dollars for when literally only very minor tweaks are the difference between them.


So they control the college textbook publishing industry too?
I knew there was something screwy going on there.
2012-07-09 12:07:10 PM  
2 votes:

iron_city_ap: So, War of the Worlds and Battlefield Earth ?


Fun fact: Battlefield Earth was actually written by post-Scientology Hubbard while he was in hiding (from various threats that may or may not have been imaginary). Which is probably why its reception was lukewarm at best despite it actually being pretty well-done for mid '80s science fiction.

//Hubbard's high point as a writer: 1930 - 1945 or so. BE: 1986. What happened between can be summed up as "borderline case of Schizophrenia causes well-regarded writer to alienate literally every single person in the literary community". More tragedy than comedy in his career, frankly.
2012-07-09 11:15:38 AM  
2 votes:

wraithmare: One big huge spotlight on the "church" and it is sorely needed. If you become a tax-exempt organization (they did it through extortion and burglary) then you need to be more transparent. I'm also looking at you Catholic Church.


I agree with that. The only reason why they're a religion and farking Tony Robbins isn't is because they had a good legal team. So the government should be allowed to set a few ground rules like make your "bible" freely available and stop being a farking cult that shelters your followers from the rest of society.
2012-07-09 11:10:03 AM  
2 votes:
One big huge spotlight on the "church" and it is sorely needed. If you become a tax-exempt organization (they did it through extortion and burglary) then you need to be more transparent. I'm also looking at you Catholic Church.

As always, please see Operation Clambake for more information on the "church".
2012-07-09 11:06:02 AM  
2 votes:
L. Ron Hubbard is a Science Fiction writer. That is all.
2012-07-09 10:33:16 AM  
2 votes:
i thought the revelation that Miscavige's wife is dead and was dumped overboard from a Sea-Org cruise ship, and that Mr. Miscavige had her did in because he was banging new Scientology recruits and his wife found out, and that Tommy helped to subdue and give her an e-meter reading which went off the Thetan charts and decided she was 'beyond rescue', was the 'biggest nightmare'.

i.dailymail.co.uk
2012-07-09 09:45:52 AM  
2 votes:
I thought that was the internet.
2012-07-10 10:56:35 AM  
1 votes:
It's funny how they released a statement saying that Dennis' wife was not missing instead of, you know, having HER say something or post a quick video for youtube.
2012-07-09 11:43:30 PM  
1 votes:

blunttrauma: L. Ron Hubbard is a bad Science Fiction writer. That is all.


FTFY
2012-07-09 11:00:15 PM  
1 votes:

BeatrixK: Mugato: Mega Steve: BeatrixK: It also doesn't help him that I will NEVER, EVER get my life back that was lost sitting through Eyes Wide Shut.

THIS! That movie was so terrible I think it gave me cancer. I kept hoping it would redeem itself somehow, but it was terrible right to the very end. And not in a "MST3K-worthy" way, but more of a "I'd eat a bag of broken glass before watching it again" way.

Yeah but Kubrick can sure cast a great supporting cast of tits. I have no idea WTF that movie was supposed to be about but that movie had the largest collection of awesome racks I've seen in a mainstream film.

That could be why I found no redeeming value: As a chick, great ta-tas don't interest me. Owning some myself, I can respect a great set of them, granted: But I don't find enough value in them to redeem a magnificent crapfest such as EWS.


Pics or GTFO.
2012-07-09 05:49:54 PM  
1 votes:

ThatBillmanGuy: However, Cruise would have to be completely blind not to see the evil going on around him. He gets gifts all the time, including slave labor that worked to remodel his airplane hanger if I recall correctly. How can he not know how the people are treated? He most likely condones everything because of the need to "clear the planet."


I think you're blind to a lot of things once you drink the Kool-Aid.
2012-07-09 04:42:11 PM  
1 votes:

limeyfellow: blunttrauma: L. Ron Hubbard is a Science Fiction writer. That is all.

Even more interesting he created the whole thing as a bet he could make loads of money conning people into believing in a religion. He certainly won that bet.


Tom Cruise is currently Hollywood's highest paid actor. Think how much money he gives to the church.
2012-07-09 04:17:05 PM  
1 votes:

blunttrauma: L. Ron Hubbard is a Science Fiction writer. That is all.


Even more interesting he created the whole thing as a bet he could make loads of money conning people into believing in a religion. He certainly won that bet.
2012-07-09 03:30:07 PM  
1 votes:

Apos: Mugato: Apos: You know what would be cool? Coming up with Cruise flicks in which he didn't -or couldn't-pump his little Thetan legs for dear life.

Collateral. I don't care if the little bastard worships Kali, he was badass in that. More Michael Mann's direction actually but still.

Good choice. FANTASTIC film. Cruise is at his best when he plays against type IMO.


snarkerati.com

IMO his best role ever. Took me half the movie to even realize it was him.
2012-07-09 03:13:46 PM  
1 votes:
Every time I think I can't possibly read about something more insane that Scientology and its leader Miscavige has done, I get proven wrong. Miscavige's wife who has been missing for 6 years, how until a FBI drone flew overhead he kept disfavored Scientology execs locked in a room and forced to sleep on the floor and eat mush for years on end, how he apparently beats the hell out of people who piss him off and they just take it, the crazy just goes on and on.

These aren't rumors, these are things that are corroborated by multiple high-ranking ex-Scientologists.
2012-07-09 02:37:23 PM  
1 votes:

Mugato: Mega Steve: BeatrixK: It also doesn't help him that I will NEVER, EVER get my life back that was lost sitting through Eyes Wide Shut.

THIS! That movie was so terrible I think it gave me cancer. I kept hoping it would redeem itself somehow, but it was terrible right to the very end. And not in a "MST3K-worthy" way, but more of a "I'd eat a bag of broken glass before watching it again" way.

Yeah but Kubrick can sure cast a great supporting cast of tits. I have no idea WTF that movie was supposed to be about but that movie had the largest collection of awesome racks I've seen in a mainstream film.


That could be why I found no redeeming value: As a chick, great ta-tas don't interest me. Owning some myself, I can respect a great set of them, granted: But I don't find enough value in them to redeem a magnificent crapfest such as EWS.
2012-07-09 02:10:10 PM  
1 votes:
And now, Shelly Miscavige's disappearance will get swept back under the rug again, as well.
2012-07-09 02:06:18 PM  
1 votes:

Mugato: zappaisfrank: $cientology wanted her to keep her mouth shut, and since whacking her wasn't an option they took the next available path of least resistance. I'll bet she stays mum about them like Kidman and Little Tommy gets very limited access to Suri.

And a nice cash settlement, I'm sure. That's right Katie. You could have blown the whistle on the whole operation but you had to sell out like everyone else.


Pretty much this. I understand her wanting to protect her daughter, so I can't really blame her for this outcome. But think of all the poor people who are still stuck on that nightmare, on the rehabilitation project force, in the hole, whatever... And all those families that have been forcibly disconnected. Their best hope to get their lives back is gone now. But expecting any other outcome was silly. Of course Katie was gonna settle. But man, to see Scientology taken down...
2012-07-09 01:35:02 PM  
1 votes:
Apparently...they've already settled: Scientology breathes a sigh of relief: Link

Seriously...I've had cases of Coke last longer than this took from filing to settling. She had to have vids.
2012-07-09 01:27:27 PM  
1 votes:

BeatrixK: zappaisfrank: I've hated Tom Cruise ever since he got with Nicole Kidman. Something about seeing a tall, gorgeous woman with some sawed off little pipsqueak like him that just makes me all stabby..

/tall guy who hates seeing tall women with short guys

See, for me, the Cruise hate has always been kinda on the backburner: I never got what my girlfriends saw in him. I remember having to spend Friday nights seeing Risky Business just because I got outvoted on which movie we'd see. Ugh!

It went to full-scale loathing once he went on his anti-psychology/drug rant. How farking DARE he speak as an 'expert' on post-partum depression. Seriously just sent me into a vortex of hate for him, and while I fully realize that my disdain for this little mutant man doesn't even register the most microscopic of blips in the universe's 'Top Bajillion concerns for the day' chart...I won't pay to see his movies. If I am outnumbered on my group's movie nights, If he is in it, I buy a ticket to another movie, and roll my eyes at his laughable attempts at emoting. (I've read that his contracts all contain payment clauses of a percentage of box office, and I'll be damned if I give that weaselly little worm one dime towards spouting more of his anti-psychology herp-a-derp.)

It also doesn't help him that I will NEVER, EVER get my life back that was lost sitting through Eyes Wide Shut.


I think my hatred of him stems from me being a tall person and having to have dealt with so many short guys and their "short guy's disease" bullshiat. I'm 6'7" and have had more than my share of these sawed off pipsqueaks with a big fat chip on their shoulder thinking they're going to prove themselves somehow by picking a fight with a big guy. I get those same vibes whenever I see Cruise. Combine that with the fact that I've known so many tall beautiful women with shrimpo boyfriends who boss them around all the time.

I'm with you on the $cientology crap. I would love nothing more than someone from the IRS to grow a pair and take these people on once and for all. The fact that they were permitted to basically manhandle our government is extremely offensive to me.
2012-07-09 01:05:24 PM  
1 votes:
Katie was also upset that David Miscavige tagged along on their Honeymoon.
2012-07-09 12:48:15 PM  
1 votes:

xanadian: Katie Holmes is Anonymous? Huh. Never would've guessed.


Anonymous doesn't generate the pageviews of a C list actress divorcing an A list actor. Sure we internet dwellers follow stories on Anonymous but Real Americans watch Inside Edition.
2012-07-09 12:23:23 PM  
1 votes:

Myria: Does David Miscavige actually believe in his religion, or is he aware that it's a scam, and he just leads it for evil personal gain?


Oh I'm sure he knows he's bilking the sh*t out of gullible people. There's various clips of Jason Beghe (actor and ex-$cientologist) around on Youtube talking about his dealings with him...apparently many of the "courses" you have to take (and of course pay for) are constantly being re-worked while at the present time always being sold as "the correct, complete" version of said course, and yet when invariably the "updated" version of a particular course comes out, you're told to pay yet again to take an updated version of something you already paid thousands of dollars for when literally only very minor tweaks are the difference between them.
2012-07-09 12:17:21 PM  
1 votes:

Virtual Pariah: I guess I don't see the big deal with CoS?
Not that I buy into it, but it looks like it's one mans (DM's) show and without him it'll become the joke it really is.

Does this thing really have legs past the life of it's current CEO?


Considering it's still thriving after the last CEO (who they consider god) died, I don't see why Miscavige's end would mean the end of the CoS. Hell Miscavige's actions have caused a ton of people to leave and denounce the church, so if anything he's doing more damage to it while alive than if he died.

It's better to keep a fool at the top and let it crumble because of him than have his successor be successful.
2012-07-09 11:56:04 AM  
1 votes:

EZ1923: Flappyhead: iron_city_ap: I thought Jeebus was their biggest nightmare.

No, he's just an imaginary figure created by Xenu and implanted into the minds of the billions of Thetans that were trapped on this planet by forcing them to watch a series of movies about the future history of Earth while imprisoned in giant theaters hiden inside the Andes.

Well, that's logical.


So, War of the Worlds and Battlefield Earth ?
2012-07-09 11:44:41 AM  
1 votes:

taxandspend: FTA: Many defectors, most of whom remain loyal to Hubbard's legacy and teachings

So they're still crazy. They're just independently crazy instead of organized crazy.


Deprogramming,like medical school,takes time to master.
2012-07-09 10:18:31 AM  
1 votes:
I thought it was Stan's closet.
2012-07-09 08:54:36 AM  
1 votes:

Vodka Zombie: I thought reality was Scientology's biggest nightmare.


I thought it was psychiatry.
 
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