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(Detroit Free Press)   Woman slow grinding with off-duty Detroit cop at party never got to ask whether it was a gun or he was happy to see her   (freep.com) divider line 87
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2012-07-09 09:12:10 AM
I smell bullshiat
 
2012-07-09 09:12:58 AM
Guns don't just "go off". Especially when they're in a holster. I call shenanigans.
 
2012-07-09 09:13:02 AM
"Police said that Miller hugged the officer -- whose name has not been released -- from behind as he was dancing, and the gun discharged.

However, McNair said she also was told her daughter "was being a little flirty" with the officer and the gun fired as they were in a face-to-face hug. "

Black people always have a different version of the story and think everything is a conspiracy.
 
2012-07-09 09:13:33 AM
A shooting in Detroit? How did this happen?
 
2012-07-09 09:16:16 AM
No picture of the alleged victim from when she was 13 yet?
 
2012-07-09 09:17:05 AM
I preferred mine "A Detroit cop may go to jail for killing it on the dance floor". But I kept getting the server error when I tried to submit it from Freep.

/congrats on the green Subby
 
2012-07-09 09:18:22 AM
"was being a little flirty"...and the cop was married and his wife was at the party? Yeah, I'm sure that DAO Smith tucked into an IWB holster pointing at most 35 degrees off of straight down at the floor "just went off" and fatally wounded her. Sounds more like Murtaugh's wife got pissed, pulled his gun and blasted homegirl.
 
2012-07-09 09:18:26 AM
How did she die from a wound that was probably in her foot or leg? I guess it could have hit an artery or something but this hole thing is a bit weird.
 
2012-07-09 09:19:03 AM
This cop shot his load in her and now the family has a problem with this.
 
2012-07-09 09:19:04 AM

hbk72777: "Police said that Miller hugged the officer -- whose name has not been released -- from behind as he was dancing with his wife, and the gun discharged.

However, McNair said she also was told her daughter "was being a little flirty" with the officer and the gun fired as they were in a face-to-face hug. "


Added a little tidbit there - I think we all know what happened here.
 
2012-07-09 09:20:18 AM
Corroboration,my eye. Collusion sounds more like it.
 
2012-07-09 09:22:02 AM
It's tragic she didn't have a gun of her own to stand her ground with. I just can't help but think if she had been armed, this tragedy might have been avoided.
 
2012-07-09 09:23:15 AM
If you're at a party, she asked, "why do you need a weapon with a round in the chamber?"

"Then I saw her at the morgue," McNair said. "And there was a smile on her face."


To make people happy?
 
2012-07-09 09:25:10 AM

elguerodiablo: How did she die from a wound that was probably in her foot or leg? I guess it could have hit an artery or something but this hole thing is a bit weird.


Femoral (sp?) artery
 
2012-07-09 09:26:15 AM
See ladies, flirting CAN be deadly
 
2012-07-09 09:27:20 AM

elguerodiablo: How did she die from a wound that was probably in her foot or leg? I guess it could have hit an artery or something but this hole thing is a bit weird.

According to Stephens, the woman "embraced the officer from behind, causing the holstered weapon to accidently discharge." The bullet punctured Miller's lung and hit her heart, and she died at a hospital.


Sounds like some magic bullets were used

Link
 
2012-07-09 09:30:36 AM
Guns don't kill people, especially in the hands of responsible owners.
 
2012-07-09 09:30:42 AM
So he was using an inside the waistband holster and somehow the gun shot up into her heart and lungs? This doesn't add up at all.
 
2012-07-09 09:31:20 AM
The official story doesn't pass the smell test.

This will be ugly.
 
2012-07-09 09:31:54 AM
If you're at a party, she asked, "why do you need a weapon with a round in the chamber?"

Because this is Detroit?
 
2012-07-09 09:32:05 AM

Desmo: elguerodiablo: How did she die from a wound that was probably in her foot or leg? I guess it could have hit an artery or something but this hole thing is a bit weird.

Femoral (sp?) artery


www.wearysloth.com

/"You hit that artery... It's over."
//hot like boot camp in the summer
 
2012-07-09 09:34:20 AM

numbone: If you're at a party, she asked, "why do you need a weapon with a round in the chamber?"

"Then I saw her at the morgue," McNair said. "And there was a smile on her face."

To make people happy?


That was just awful. Funny. Maybe even hilarious but stlll awful.
 
2012-07-09 09:34:44 AM
Apparently she was hugging from behind by standing in front of him and hugging.

Or she was standing in front and hugging by being behind him.

According to the article/reported witnesses anyway.
 
2012-07-09 09:37:05 AM
If you're at a party, she asked, "why do you need a weapon with a round in the chamber?"

DETROIT
 
2012-07-09 09:37:58 AM
FTA: If you're at a party, she asked, "why do you need a weapon with a round in the chamber?"

Because if you're the type of person who becomes a cop, chances are you do it for the sense of power it gives you. Especially the kind of power that comes with being able to carry a loaded weapon around everywhere you go.
 
2012-07-09 09:38:16 AM
I'm sorry baby. That's never happened to me before.
 
2012-07-09 09:38:50 AM

Bhasayate: If you're at a party, she asked, "why do you need a weapon with a round in the chamber?"

DETROIT


No lie. It's gotten to the point where one needs a bullet-proof jacket, just to go to/from their car.
 
2012-07-09 09:40:16 AM

Mad Scientist: I'm sorry baby. That's never happened to me before.


Just go down on her for 15-20 minutes and try again.
 
2012-07-09 09:41:57 AM
worst...handjob...ever
 
2012-07-09 09:44:13 AM
Early reports said she was shot in the lungs, the cop must be 10 ft tall.
 
2012-07-09 09:46:30 AM

Little_Dictator: FTA: If you're at a party, she asked, "why do you need a weapon with a round in the chamber?"

Because if you're the type of person who becomes a cop, chances are you do it for the sense of power it gives you. Especially the kind of power that comes with being able to carry a loaded weapon around everywhere you go.


Is that a generalization in your pocket or are you just happy to see me?
 
2012-07-09 09:48:22 AM
what the hell? If the gun was in the holster and then discharged and hit her in her in the chest? Hell of a ricochet and I call BS
 
2012-07-09 09:49:23 AM

JohnnyShotMe: Little_Dictator: FTA: If you're at a party, she asked, "why do you need a weapon with a round in the chamber?"

Because if you're the type of person who becomes a cop, chances are you do it for the sense of power it gives you. Especially the kind of power that comes with being able to carry a loaded weapon around everywhere you go.

Is that a generalization in your pocket or are you just happy to see me?


Nope. Most of your cops were the bullies from school. Only now those same bullies have a badge and gun.
 
2012-07-09 09:49:58 AM

Pelvic Splanchnic Ganglion: Guns don't just "go off". Especially when they're in a holster. I call shenanigans.


This. Do we have a link to this story from an actual news organization? Detroit free press is more "RESURRECTED ELVIS GIVES BIRTH TO ALIEN MOTHER"-level journalism than actual news, given the source link we can't be sure there was a shooting incident of any kind or that if there was anyone was injured in any way.

elguerodiablo: How did she die from a wound that was probably in her foot or leg? I guess it could have hit an artery or something but this hole thing is a bit weird.


Police-issue guns are usually .38 special or more powerful, take one of those through the inside of your leg, get a bit unlucky, and you can bleed out pretty fast.

Albeit, if you're dancing, you're generally in a place that serves alcohol for 50%+ of its income. I'm pretty sure off-duty officers aren't exempt from the federal laws against carrying a firearm in such places, which is sort of another reason I'm rather suspecting this entire story is imaginary.
 
2012-07-09 09:53:06 AM

Jim_Callahan: elguerodiablo: How did she die from a wound that was probably in her foot or leg? I guess it could have hit an artery or something but this hole thing is a bit weird.

Police-issue guns are usually .38 special or more powerful, take one of those through the inside of your leg, get a bit unlucky, and you can bleed out pretty fast.


it was a .40 M&P and articles yesterday said she was hit in the lungs, most of those have since been retracted
 
2012-07-09 09:57:22 AM

Okie_Gunslinger: So he was using an inside the waistband holster and somehow the gun shot up into her heart and lungs? This doesn't add up at all.


Was she on her knees?
 
2012-07-09 10:00:30 AM
M&P claim the weapon cannot go off without the trigger being pulled
 
2012-07-09 10:02:44 AM
Yeah, this is a fairly high-quality pistol, I have a problem with this story.
 
2012-07-09 10:03:04 AM

Jim_Callahan:
Albeit, if you're dancing, you're generally in a place that serves alcohol for 50%+ of its income. I'm pretty sure off-duty officers aren't exempt from the federal laws against carrying a firearm in such places, which is sort of another reason I'm rather suspecting this entire story is imaginary.


It depends entirely on the laws of the state. State law trumps federal law when you're not on federal property. Michigan is a state that restricts licensed carriers from carrying at "a tavern where the primary source of income is the sale of alcoholic liquor by the glass consumed on the premises", but LEOSA (or Michigan law itself) may carve out an exemption for police officers, whether they're on-duty or not.

However, this doesn't change the fact that there is no way that a holstered Smith and Wesson M&P will just go off all by itself, even if you rammed your elbow full speed into the side of the holster. It is specifically designed to not do that. This isn't some two-shot derringer with no firing pin block.
 
2012-07-09 10:05:12 AM
If you're at a party, she asked, "why do you need a weapon with a round in the chamber?"
To keep drunk biatches from grabbing at you in front of your wife?
 
2012-07-09 10:07:39 AM

Benjamin Orr: elguerodiablo: How did she die from a wound that was probably in her foot or leg? I guess it could have hit an artery or something but this hole thing is a bit weird.

According to Stephens, the woman "embraced the officer from behind, causing the holstered weapon to accidently discharge." The bullet punctured Miller's lung and hit her heart, and she died at a hospital.

Sounds like some magic bullets were used

Link


The bullet punctured her heart and she didn't die until she got to the hospital?

Rofl.

You can't believe anything the liberal AP posts.
 
2012-07-09 10:08:09 AM

Jim_Callahan: Pelvic Splanchnic Ganglion: Guns don't just "go off". Especially when they're in a holster. I call shenanigans.

This. Do we have a link to this story from an actual news organization? Detroit free press is more "RESURRECTED ELVIS GIVES BIRTH TO ALIEN MOTHER"-level journalism than actual news, given the source link we can't be sure there was a shooting incident of any kind or that if there was anyone was injured in any way.

elguerodiablo: How did she die from a wound that was probably in her foot or leg? I guess it could have hit an artery or something but this hole thing is a bit weird.

Police-issue guns are usually .38 special or more powerful, take one of those through the inside of your leg, get a bit unlucky, and you can bleed out pretty fast.

Albeit, if you're dancing, you're generally in a place that serves alcohol for 50%+ of its income. I'm pretty sure off-duty officers aren't exempt from the federal laws against carrying a firearm in such places, which is sort of another reason I'm rather suspecting this entire story is imaginary.


The article states that the party was at the officer's house not a club or restaurant.

IT also states that he was carrying a S&W .40 caliber semi-auto. I would put money on it being an M&P.

There is no federal law against carrying in places that serve alcohol. Though most states do prohibit it.

Links to other news sources have been posted and one stated that she was hit in the upper body. If the gun was holstered that doesn't make sense unless she was sitting or laying on the floor or squatted down.
 
2012-07-09 10:09:28 AM
FTFA: Miller must have been thinking of her grandmother who died in 2010, McNair said.

Can anybody figure out where the hell that statement came from. I keep reading that part of the article over and over, and it just keeps making less and less sense.
 
2012-07-09 10:09:43 AM
Your gun is digging in my hip, ARRHRAHAAA
 
2012-07-09 10:11:16 AM

wrenchboy: Okie_Gunslinger: So he was using an inside the waistband holster and somehow the gun shot up into her heart and lungs? This doesn't add up at all.

Was she on her knees?


Exactly what I was going to suggest. What they call a "hug", we here on fark call a BJ.
 
2012-07-09 10:11:30 AM

wrenchboy: Okie_Gunslinger: So he was using an inside the waistband holster and somehow the gun shot up into her heart and lungs? This doesn't add up at all.

Was she on her knees?


i50.tinypic.com
 
2012-07-09 10:15:28 AM
I call bullshiat. Nobody even lives in Detroit.
 
2012-07-09 10:20:07 AM

Okie_Gunslinger: So he was using an inside the waistband holster and somehow the gun shot up into her heart and lungs? This doesn't add up at all.


Maybe she was dropping it like it was hot and grabbed onto his waist for support.
 
2012-07-09 10:25:06 AM

cwolf20: Apparently she was hugging from behind by standing in front of him and hugging.

Or she was standing in front and hugging by being behind him and standing on her head since the bullet went through her lung and heart.

According to the article/reported witnesses anyway.


FTFY

.
 
2012-07-09 10:28:32 AM
Police holsters are designed so that only the officer (in theory) can pull the gun out and you have to give it a secret handshake first.

There are some Remington rifles that allegedly have a bouncy firing pin that can go off if you toss it somewhere (ie abuse the gun).

I call shenanigans as well.
 
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