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(Yahoo)   Pakistan's late Nobel-winning physicist who predicted the Higgs particle is a national hero. Just kidding; he's been erased from their textbooks for not being Islamic enough   (news.yahoo.com) divider line 192
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2012-07-09 01:26:24 AM
You can't recognize scientific genius because you're pants-on-head-retarded? That makes me very sad. What hope do we have to even think of world peace when people can't even acknowledge the brilliance of a man because of a sect of religion he belonged to?

Just nuke us from orbit.
 
2012-07-09 02:04:40 AM
India moves forward. Pakistan backwards. Pakistan is moving to resolve the India-Pakistan competition/conflict, and not in the way that favors Pakistan at all. India is moving to be a 21st Century power while Pakistan is moving toward being a Stone Age mess.
 
2012-07-09 02:46:55 AM
This is the sad reality of our world. The persecution of some of our most brilliant minds because *insert religious bullshiat here*

see:
Alan Turing
Galileo Galilei
et alia
 
2012-07-09 03:18:42 AM

SoothinglyDeranged: This is the sad reality of our world. The persecution of some of our most brilliant minds because *insert religious bullshiat here*

see:
Alan Turing
Galileo Galilei
et alia



Yes, blame all religions. Giovanni Caselli, Rene Descartes, Michael Faraday, and Issac Newton were all worthless and contributed nothing to the world because of their religious practices. Oh wait, the opposite of that.

Religion is like a sport for your mind. A Buddhist monk can focus on one thing so powerfully he doesn't even make a peep if you light him on fire with gasoline. I doubt most people could give themselves a blister on the stove while meditating without crying out in pain. Other religions have their merit, as well.

The problem isn't religion as a whole, but rather the people who take it too seriously. Just like everything else, moderation is the key. The Muslims in America are the guys who show up in the jerseys and root for the home team. The Muslims in Pakistan are the guys who start the football riots where people die. They need a serious dose of lighten the fark up in their lives.
 
2012-07-09 04:34:13 AM

SoothinglyDeranged: This is the sad reality of our world. The persecution of some of our most brilliant minds because *insert religious bullshiat here*

see:
Alan Turing
Galileo Galilei
et alia


Darwin could be added to that list.
 
2012-07-09 05:08:28 AM
Enjoy your scientific, intellectual and technological dark age, you fundamentalist wingnuts.
 
2012-07-09 06:24:38 AM
the story of the headpiece at his grave is also pretty amusing. it originally read "first muslim nobel prize winner", but since he was mahdi and this is apparently heretical according to the majority in pakistan (as well as in most of the muslim world... i suppose kind of the way that mormons are not really considered christian by many other christians), they removed the "muslim" from the stone so that it now just nonsensically reads "first nobel prize winner"...
 
2012-07-09 06:25:56 AM
How many American Nobel laureates are named in modern American textbooks?
 
2012-07-09 06:28:29 AM

miss diminutive: Enjoy your scientific, intellectual and technological dark age, you fundamentalist wingnuts.


Don't get too proud there.

The LHC has allowed mankind to expand its knowledge of the universe while here in the US we're still debating evolution in science curricula.

How can we expect progress in this country when political forces are actively destabilizing education so that the sheep keep them in power to protect them from "intellectual elitists"?
 
2012-07-09 06:31:04 AM

NewportBarGuy: You can't recognize scientific genius because you're pants-on-head-retarded from a miserable, ignorant part of the planet that hasn't progressed a single day in the past 2,500 years? That makes me very sad.


FTFY.
 
2012-07-09 06:31:57 AM

lohphat: miss diminutive: Enjoy your scientific, intellectual and technological dark age, you fundamentalist wingnuts.

Don't get too proud there.

The LHC has allowed mankind to expand its knowledge of the universe while here in the US we're still debating evolution in science curricula.

How can we expect progress in this country when political forces are actively destabilizing education so that the sheep keep them in power to protect them from "intellectual elitists"?


Valid point, but I'm not American. Besides, this type of anti-science/anti-intellectualism certainly isn't restricted to muslim fundamentalists.
 
2012-07-09 06:37:18 AM
Who was the dimwit who first said "god particle"? They need a good shin kicking.
 
2012-07-09 06:42:02 AM

doglover: Yes, blame all religions. Giovanni Caselli, Rene Descartes, Michael Faraday, and Issac Newton were all worthless and contributed nothing to the world because of their religious practices. Oh wait, the opposite of that.


You not think good. He not say that. He say religion persecute some people, not religious people contribute nothing.
Think better next time.
 
2012-07-09 06:44:34 AM

lohphat: How can we expect progress in this country when political forces are actively destabilizing education so that the sheep keep them in power to protect them from "intellectual elitists"?


You are giving them too much credit. It's not so much a cunning plan as it is that they are just farking idiots and are themselves afraid of knowledge.
 
2012-07-09 06:47:10 AM
It's his own fault. If he had used his scientific knowledge to contribute to the Pakistani nuclear weapons program, like all the other good scientists, he would have been a hero too.
 
2012-07-09 06:47:19 AM

miss diminutive: lohphat: miss diminutive: Enjoy your scientific, intellectual and technological dark age, you fundamentalist wingnuts.

Don't get too proud there.

The LHC has allowed mankind to expand its knowledge of the universe while here in the US we're still debating evolution in science curricula.

How can we expect progress in this country when political forces are actively destabilizing education so that the sheep keep them in power to protect them from "intellectual elitists"?

Valid point, but I'm not American. Besides, this type of anti-science/anti-intellectualism certainly isn't restricted to muslim fundamentalists.


A good point.
I'm tired of ALL the fundies ruining it for the rest of us. We don't want any part of your raging hatred for 'others'.
 
2012-07-09 06:49:45 AM
Control the science: loser.

Control the press: winnar!
 
2012-07-09 06:49:48 AM

AverageAmericanGuy: How many American Nobel laureates are named in modern American textbooks?


Well, if you stick with prize winners born in the US, then all of the literature winners are at least mentioned if not read in high school, most of the peace prize winners are standard parts of US history texts because of either what got them the Peace Prize or because they were big deals otherwise. A few might only show up in side bars in certain texts on account of winning the prize so there's that. As for all the other subjects, well economics texts mention a lot of the winners in part because at least for the first couple decades the prize was offered, they were big deals in the field. A few also show up in non-econ texts. As for the other fields, the winners of the physics prize are pretty darn well represented in various texts. Which leaves chemistry and medicine/physiology, where it's a bit dicey.
 
2012-07-09 06:51:14 AM
The next time you see some Islamist jackwad bragging "Islam has done great things in science while you Westerners were still living in huts!", remind them of Abdus Salam.

When they say "Who?", you then say "See what I mean?".
 
2012-07-09 06:51:43 AM

RatOmeter: Who was the dimwit who first said "god particle"? They need a good shin kicking.


Nobel Prize winner Leon Lederman, after his publisher wouldn't let him call it the goddamn particle. Was the title of his book, The God Particle: If the Universe is the Answer, What is the Question?
 
2012-07-09 06:53:05 AM

doglover: SoothinglyDeranged: This is the sad reality of our world. The persecution of some of our most brilliant minds because *insert religious bullshiat here*

see:
Alan Turing
Galileo Galilei
et alia


Yes, blame all religions. Giovanni Caselli, Rene Descartes, Michael Faraday, and Issac Newton were all worthless and contributed nothing to the world because of their religious practices. Oh wait, the opposite of that.

Religion is like a sport for your mind. A Buddhist monk can focus on one thing so powerfully he doesn't even make a peep if you light him on fire with gasoline. I doubt most people could give themselves a blister on the stove while meditating without crying out in pain. Other religions have their merit, as well.

The problem isn't religion as a whole, but rather the people who take it too seriously. Just like everything else, moderation is the key. The Muslims in America are the guys who show up in the jerseys and root for the home team. The Muslims in Pakistan are the guys who start the football riots where people die. They need a serious dose of lighten the fark up in their lives.


I am pretty sure that monk woudl fall intot he "take it too seriously" category.
 
2012-07-09 06:54:25 AM
Well fundamentalists can be accused of rigid thinking, rash generalizations, and extreme statements. Things you never see in Fark threads because Farkers are superiorer to those folks.
 
2012-07-09 06:54:37 AM
memearchive.net
 
2012-07-09 07:03:46 AM
Who cares about their history books? They're probably packed full of religiously slanted inaccuracies. Someday their entire culture will be a footnote in our own history books:

Pakistan: Drove themselves into the ground with religion.
 
2012-07-09 07:05:42 AM

Honest Bender: Who cares about their history books? They're probably packed full of religiously slanted inaccuracies. Someday their entire culture will be a footnote in our own history books:

Pakistan: Drove themselves into the ground with religion.


Have you ever been to Alabama or Mississippi?
 
2012-07-09 07:07:23 AM
As in every facet of human existence, asshats are the problem. Unfortunately, Pakistan seems to be about 90% asshat.
 
2012-07-09 07:09:50 AM

lohphat: Have you ever been to Alabama or Mississippi?


Don't even have to go that far.

You can just go to PA

/all for secession
//New England and NY are going to break off and join the Maritimes
///You know it's true.
 
2012-07-09 07:10:35 AM

Honest Bender: Who cares about their history books? They're probably packed full of religiously slanted inaccuracies. Someday their entire culture will be a footnote in our own history books:

Pakistan: Drove themselves into the ground with religion.


Thank god our textbooks aren't full of religiously slanted innaccuracies.
 
2012-07-09 07:12:44 AM

RatOmeter: Who was the dimwit who first said "god particle"? They need a good shin kicking.


I'd imagine he did it for the trollolols... we can at least prove that the Higgs Boson exists to a five sigma certainty... I'd wager that we can't yet do the same for God.
 
2012-07-09 07:14:45 AM

bulldg4life: Honest Bender: Who cares about their history books? They're probably packed full of religiously slanted inaccuracies. Someday their entire culture will be a footnote in our own history books:

Pakistan: Drove themselves into the ground with religion.

Thank god our textbooks aren't full of religiously slanted innaccuracies.


Yes, but we complain about them. Come to think of it, were allowed to complain about them. Contrast this with Pakistan.
 
2012-07-09 07:16:03 AM

liam76: I am pretty sure that monk woudl fall intot he "take it too seriously" category.


Ah, but monks can and do leave the monastery. It was a mantle many picked up to escape the mundane world for awhile. While you're a monk, they make you practice, and you get good at things like meditation. But you can step down as well.

Just like a professional sports team, really. Only instead of scouts, they just accept low level candidates who display serious interest and train them up.
 
2012-07-09 07:16:38 AM

doglover: Issac Newton


was kind of batshiat crazy.
 
2012-07-09 07:19:56 AM

ChubbyTiger: As in every facet of human existence, asshats are the problem. Unfortunately, Pakistan seems to be about 90% asshat.


Oh, come now, it can't be that bad. 60-65% tops. All it takes is 51% asshat to really mess up your day/decade.
 
2012-07-09 07:20:56 AM

WhyteRaven74: AverageAmericanGuy: How many American Nobel laureates are named in modern American textbooks?

Well, if you stick with prize winners born in the US, then all of the literature winners are at least mentioned if not read in high school, most of the peace prize winners are standard parts of US history texts because of either what got them the Peace Prize or because they were big deals otherwise. A few might only show up in side bars in certain texts on account of winning the prize so there's that. As for all the other subjects, well economics texts mention a lot of the winners in part because at least for the first couple decades the prize was offered, they were big deals in the field. A few also show up in non-econ texts. As for the other fields, the winners of the physics prize are pretty darn well represented in various texts. Which leaves chemistry and medicine/physiology, where it's a bit dicey.


Maybe if you went to Exeter.

For the most part, the vast majority of American Nobel Prize winners are left out of text books, if for no other reason than lack of space. Which is not to say that they are being left out for religious purposes, which seems to be the case here in Pakistan (who knows? maybe it's just a minor textbook company for religious schools).

teh list

If it's not clear, I'm referring to high school text books, and I believe you are as well.
 
2012-07-09 07:22:33 AM

Tman144: ChubbyTiger: As in every facet of human existence, asshats are the problem. Unfortunately, Pakistan seems to be about 90% asshat.

Oh, come now, it can't be that bad. 60-65% tops. All it takes is 51% asshat to really mess up your day/decade.


You're probably right. I need to reread that linguistic deflation thread.

/literally 102% of them
 
2012-07-09 07:25:00 AM
Ever notice that countries that are "hell holes" are so due to conservative ideology, while more liberal and tolerant countries seem to be more advanced?
 
2012-07-09 07:25:01 AM
Ahh Islam, the religion of enlightened peace.
 
2012-07-09 07:30:36 AM

James F. Campbell: doglover: Issac Newton

was kind of batshiat crazy.


All the best people are. Do you know what they're doing at CERN? Nothing any sane person would care about. Smashing ions together at 99.9 c to create insane matter states is ludicrous! And we found the YO MOMMA particle, too. THROW THE SWITCH IGOR! MWA HA HA HA HA HA HA!

Genius is crazy.
 
2012-07-09 07:30:53 AM

lohphat: Ever notice that countries that are "hell holes" are so due to conservative ideology, while more liberal and tolerant countries seem to be more advanced?


You mean like Sweden?
 
2012-07-09 07:33:01 AM

ChubbyTiger: lohphat: Ever notice that countries that are "hell holes" are so due to conservative ideology, while more liberal and tolerant countries seem to be more advanced?

You mean like Sweden?


Does The Congo or Pakistan hae a women's bikini volleyball team?
 
2012-07-09 07:34:23 AM

Malik Sardonis: It's his own fault. If he had used his scientific knowledge to contribute to the Pakistani nuclear weapons program, like all the other good scientists, he would have been a hero too.


Actually, he did.
 
2012-07-09 07:37:41 AM
FTFA: Ahmadis believe their spiritual leader, Hadrat Mirza Ghulam Ahmad, who died in 1908, was a prophet of God - a position rejected by the government in response to a mass movement led by Pakistan's major Islamic parties. Islam considers Muhammad the last prophet and those who subsequently declared themselves prophets as heretics.

So....they're the Islamic equivalent of Mormons?
 
2012-07-09 07:42:53 AM

doglover: Religion is like a sport for your mind.


Lots of brain damage from repeated collisions?
 
2012-07-09 07:51:02 AM
sithon:
SoothinglyDeranged: This is the sad reality of our world. The persecution of some of our most brilliant minds because *insert religious bullshiat here*

see:
Alan Turing
Galileo Galilei
et alia

Darwin could be added to that list.


To be fair, he became a non-theist over the course of his lifetime, well before the end of his scientific career (not that he ever really retired).

firefly212:
I'd imagine he did it for the trollolols... we can at least prove that the Higgs Boson exists to a five sigma certainty... I'd wager that we can't yet do the same for God.

Typically, religion's "five-sigma" goal has been to coerce 99.99% of the population into believing god exists, then marginalize or murder the remainder.
 
2012-07-09 07:53:37 AM

Honest Bender: Pakistan: Drove themselves into the ground with religion.


And funnily enough, their founding father Muhammad Ali Jinnah, was a staunch atheist.

It's like rain on your wedding day.
 
2012-07-09 07:54:52 AM

sithon: SoothinglyDeranged: This is the sad reality of our world. The persecution of some of our most brilliant minds because *insert religious bullshiat here*

see:
Alan Turing
Galileo Galilei
et alia

Darwin could be added to that list.


Darwin wasn't persecuted. The Church of England certainly wasn't opposed to it - after all, he's one of only 6 non-royal people buried in Westminster Abbey. Obviously there were critics and debate which, while spirited, in the UK at least it did not descend to the kind of opposition we see in evangelicals today.
 
2012-07-09 07:55:02 AM

doglover: SoothinglyDeranged: This is the sad reality of our world. The persecution of some of our most brilliant minds because *insert religious bullshiat here*

see:
Alan Turing
Galileo Galilei
et alia


Yes, blame all religions. Giovanni Caselli, Rene Descartes, Michael Faraday, and Issac Newton were all worthless and contributed nothing to the world because of their religious practices. Oh wait, the opposite of that.

Religion is like a sport for your mind. A Buddhist monk can focus on one thing so powerfully he doesn't even make a peep if you light him on fire with gasoline. I doubt most people could give themselves a blister on the stove while meditating without crying out in pain. Other religions have their merit, as well.

The problem isn't religion as a whole, but rather the people who take it too seriously. Just like everything else, moderation is the key. The Muslims in America are the guys who show up in the jerseys and root for the home team. The Muslims in Pakistan are the guys who start the football riots where people die. They need a serious dose of lighten the fark up in their lives.


If the buddist monk did not take his religion seriously, and only in moderation as you suggest, there is no way he would be able to take the pain of being lit on fire in your example.

The problem isn't whether or not you take religion in moderation, or if you are a die hard religious nut. The problem with our planet is how we treat each other. That's it. If we can learn to respect others, no matter what they believe, no matter where they come from, who they date etc, we will become better people. Until then, we're doomed to the cycle of fighting over bullshiat things.

/Respect is often talked about, and demanded, but rarely shown
 
2012-07-09 08:00:08 AM
What I find fascinating, from a historical perspective, is that Pakistan (and by association, Bangladesh - formerly East Pakistan) have only been around for 65 years. The entire formation of those two nations was due to the frustration felt by the rest of the newly formed Indian government. Jinnah, from what I remember of my Prof's teachings, didn't actually WANT the two-state solution, he just suggested it as the far point in a barter for political gain and Muslim rights within India (the dude had a brand new house in New Delhi and was in poor health, not exactly the kind of situation you make for yourself if you really want to move to the western edge of the sub-continent). But the Indian government was so fed up by that point they said 'OK!' and farked us over today.

I still blame the British though. Without them, the sub-continent would be a vastly different place right now: Richer, probably more religiously tolerant, and less nuke happy.

/History FTW.
 
2012-07-09 08:04:05 AM

doglover: The problem isn't religion as a whole, but rather the people who take it too seriously. Just like everything else, moderation is the key. The Muslims in America are the guys who show up in the jerseys and root for the home team. The Muslims in Pakistan are the guys who start the football riots where people die. They need a serious dose of lighten the fark up in their lives.


The problem IS religion as a whole, and here is why: the very existence of religious belief encourages an invalid, irrational way of thinking. That is, it encourages a belief in, and expects action upon things that have no basis in reality. And when you do that, anything is possible "in the name of religion."

Now, I grant that many of the actions taken in the name of religion are relatively harmless, but you and I both can probably name 20 actions off the top of our heads that people have taken that ARE harmful or deadly to one person or a group. The only way to stop this from happening is encouraging rational thinking. But as I pointed out above, religion expects irrational thinking, so it is incompatible with rational thinking.

/garbled stream of consciousness
 
2012-07-09 08:05:40 AM
Also, Texas and Kansas.
 
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