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2012-07-09 10:07:21 AM  
"Assault gun"?
 
2012-07-09 10:13:03 AM  
Ahhh.....another American citizen branded as a racist for simply disagreeing with the current administration. I doubt the people slinging the word even know what it means anymore.

Sorry democrats, but your repeated accusations of "being a racist" have watered down the effectiveness of the insult.

Rock on, protestors, rock on.
 
2012-07-09 10:22:24 AM  
The float, created by Huntsville native Dave Clawson featured a man wearing a President Obama mask stepping out of a limo and dancing with girls and fake secret service agents.

We're really getting lax about what constitutes a "parade float" these days.

Is basically everything in a parade a "float" now? Is a Shriner in a go-kart a "float?" A dog in a VFW vest? Where does it end?

The entire parade system is breaking down in this country.
 
2012-07-09 10:38:18 AM  

EnviroDude: Ahhh.....another American citizen branded as a racist for simply disagreeing with the current administration. I doubt the people slinging the word even know what it means anymore.

Sorry democrats, but your repeated accusations of "being a racist" have watered down the effectiveness of the insult.

Rock on, protestors, rock on.


I hate to have to agree with EnviroDude, but he is correct that this isn't racist. Stupid, but not racist.
 
2012-07-09 10:42:31 AM  
"I was referring to a very current event called the Fast and Furious scandal and I think it's a travesty. People lost their lives and died."

Rightly or wrongly:

* Members of the NRA that are well versed on the F&F 'Scandal': Probably 90+%
* Everyone else: Probably being generous, 25%

So, yeah, many people aren't even going to be aware of what was being parodied.
 
2012-07-09 10:45:09 AM  
I haven't been to an Independence Day parade in many years, but I seem to remember them being very rah-rah patriotic. It seems an odd venue for political satire.
 
2012-07-09 10:46:12 AM  

dletter: "I was referring to a very current event called the Fast and Furious scandal and I think it's a travesty. People lost their lives and died."

Rightly or wrongly:

* Members of the NRA that are well versed on aware of the F&F 'Scandal': Probably 90+%
* Everyone else: Probably being generous, 25%

So, yeah, many people aren't even going to be aware of what was being parodied.


If they were well versed on it, it wouldn't be a scandal.
 
2012-07-09 10:54:00 AM  
FTFA: Truett had no idea the float was going to be in the parade because he claims Clawson never officially registered for the float lineup.

If Clawson has nothing to hide, why didn't he register his float beforehand? Did he accept foreign money for its construction? Is he under the control of the communist homosexual conspiracy from space? Hey, I'm just asking questions.
 
2012-07-09 10:56:16 AM  

EvilEgg: dletter: "I was referring to a very current event called the Fast and Furious scandal and I think it's a travesty. People lost their lives and died."

Rightly or wrongly:

* Members of the NRA that are well versed on aware of the F&F 'Scandal': Probably 90+%
* Everyone else: Probably being generous, 25%

So, yeah, many people aren't even going to be aware of what was being parodied.

If they were well versed on it, it wouldn't be a scandal.


Good point... "aware of" is probably a better choice of words, for both cases.
 
2012-07-09 11:03:24 AM  
Except that this is probably from the same people who were all "Stop the mockery, you owe respect to the office" under Bush, I have no problem with this. It seems to be EXACTLY the sort of thing the 1st amendment was written to protect.
 
2012-07-09 11:09:04 AM  

unlikely: "Stop the mockery, you owe respect to the office" under Bush,


It would be interesting to see what supposed political satire was directed at President Bush as per the article.
 
2012-07-09 11:28:04 AM  
Where exactly is the dissent? This is stupid, unpatriotic attention whoring.
 
2012-07-09 12:25:37 PM  

EnviroDude: Ahhh.....another American citizen branded as a racist for simply disagreeing with the current administration. I doubt the people slinging the word even know what it means anymore.

Sorry democrats, but your repeated accusations of "being a racist" have watered down the effectiveness of the insult.

Rock on, protestors, rock on.


Anyone who calls him a racist probably just isn't as good at arguing politics as the Fark politics board.

First I would have gone with: "Why was George W. Bush so sacrosanct? I thought we were supposed to support our president during times of war." Just to start with. Maybe continue with the war on drugs, Obama's actual gun record or a comparison of numbers of executive orders. There are a lot of better options here for the discriminating arguer.
 
2012-07-09 12:33:22 PM  

dletter: * Members of the NRA that are well versed on the F&F 'Scandal': Probably 90+%


is this like a serious post
 
2012-07-09 12:47:26 PM  

Jackson Herring: dletter: * Members of the NRA that are well versed on the F&F 'Scandal': Probably 90+%

is this like a serious post


I agreed with the person who "restated" my point as more just being "aware of".

We have some "NRA"ers in my office here, and they leave their NRA magazines in the mens bathroom (how nice of them). I noticed one more the cover story was "Fire Eric Holder" (I am assuming for the F&F stuff).

So, my only point was, while NRA members have probably been given their "party line" and are at least aware of the issue, the rest of society who tend to read more People magazine than serious news, are by and large not that aware of the issue/hearings.

And that was my point about the parade float... that the symbolism/point probably went over at least 50% of the people's heads.
 
2012-07-09 12:49:51 PM  

dletter: I agreed with the person who "restated" my point as more just being "aware of".


Hee hee yeah I saw that after I posted. I was going to say that 90% of NRA members are aware that F&F is something that happened, however the only thing they know about it is that Liberals Bad.
 
2012-07-09 01:03:25 PM  

EvilEgg: dletter: "I was referring to a very current event called the Fast and Furious scandal and I think it's a travesty. People lost their lives and died."

Rightly or wrongly:

* Members of the NRA that are well versed on aware of the F&F 'Scandal': Probably 90+%
* Everyone else: Probably being generous, 25%

So, yeah, many people aren't even going to be aware of what was being parodied.

If they were well versed on it, it wouldn't be a scandal.


You are right. Holder would have resigned long ago and the scandal of him staying in office and 0bama wouldn't have had to cite exec privilege on docs he "never saw" about a program he knew nothing about.
 
2012-07-09 01:08:56 PM  

tenpoundsofcheese: You are right. Holder would have resigned long ago and the scandal of him staying in office and 0bama wouldn't have had to cite exec privilege on docs he "never saw" about a program he knew nothing about.


The witches in Salem should have just admitted their guilt.
 
2012-07-09 01:09:39 PM  

Jackson Herring: dletter: I agreed with the person who "restated" my point as more just being "aware of".

Hee hee yeah I saw that after I posted. I was going to say that 90% of NRA members are aware that F&F is something that happened, however the only thing they know about it is that Liberals Bad.


The NRA is like MADD: they were once highly effective and have accomplished many significant policy and cultural goals. Now that they've basically "won", their primary purpose is evangelizing society since no one wants to close up shop or give up any political clout. They should stick to training and safety and move away from BS politicking.
 
2012-07-09 01:36:00 PM  

unlikely: Except that this is probably from the same people who were all "Stop the mockery, you owe respect to the office" under Bush, I have no problem with this. It seems to be EXACTLY the sort of thing the 1st amendment was written to protect.


This guy seems an equal opportunity mocker, given this sentence FTFA "In the past Clawson has roasted Presidents Bush and Clinton and celebrites such as Paris Hilton and Michael Jackson."

I want to know if his Clinton float was "Clinton" driving a giant cigar float, with "Monica" on top of the giant cigar.
 
2012-07-09 01:47:37 PM  
Trolling on the internet is for wimps....trolling in parades takes balls.
 
2012-07-09 01:48:47 PM  

EnviroDude: Ahhh.....another American citizen branded as a racist for simply disagreeing with the current administration. I doubt the people slinging the word even know what it means anymore.

Sorry democrats, but your repeated accusations of "being a racist" have watered down the effectiveness of the insult.

Rock on, protestors, rock on.


You sound tired E.Dude.



Also stay classy Republicans!
 
2012-07-09 01:50:31 PM  
My biggest problem with that float is that it's not funny.

That's also my biggest problem with Obama though. The man has got to be running the least funny presidency in at least a decade, probably two.

Give me some material damnit! It's all serious all the time. First he's all like "give women the same pay as men for the same work!" and that's not really parody-worthy at all. Then it just got more serious from there. Sheesh. Can't he just fark up bad somewhere along the line so we can get something decent out of these impoverished Float Creators?
 
2012-07-09 01:50:34 PM  

dletter: "I was referring to a very current event called the Fast and Furious scandal and I think it's a travesty. People lost their lives and died."

Rightly or wrongly:

* Members of the NRA that are well versed on the F&F 'Scandal': Probably 90+%
* Everyone else: Probably being generous, 25%

So, yeah, many people aren't even going to be aware of what was being parodied.


Of, course, 99% of your 95% think that F&F is part of some Master plan to allow Obama to take away your guns, so I don't know if 'well versed' means much.
 
2012-07-09 01:53:17 PM  
This is pretty lame for a 4th of July float, but at east it's not as bad as the rodeo that had the Obama effigy that they clearly stated was supposed to represent Obama and then asked who wanted to hit the effigy...
 
2012-07-09 01:53:50 PM  
I'd also add that the first reference to racism in the article was:
"Some parade goers are defending the float, saying it was simply a way of exercising freedom of speech. "I saw it and thought it was hilarious. It upsets me that people think it's racist because it's a black president."

And the first reference to racism in the thread was:

EnviroDude: Sorry democrats, but your repeated accusations of "being a racist" have watered down the effectiveness of the insult.


Here's what the only named Democrat thought:
"I just thought they were giving an opinion and there was no threat. They just wanted his presidency to end," says Obama supporter Tim Hansen."

In other words. What the fark is your problem E. Dude? You off your meds or something?
 
2012-07-09 01:57:18 PM  

Somacandra: unlikely: "Stop the mockery, you owe respect to the office" under Bush,

It would be interesting to see what supposed political satire was directed at President Bush as per the article.


Especially since a GIS didn't return any results of other floats, I guess we'll have to take Dave's word for it?
 
2012-07-09 02:20:03 PM  

The_Sponge: Trolling on the internet is for wimps....trolling in parades takes balls.



Trolling Romney in a parade in Utah, now that would be ballsy. Obama, not so much.
 
2012-07-09 02:21:53 PM  

BeesNuts: That's also my biggest problem with Obama though. The man has got to be running the least funny presidency in at least a decade, probably two.


Good observation -- particularly since he seems to be the only president since Nixon that hasn't declared the establishment of the "most ethical administration ever."

As for the float -- there is signal, and there is noise. Lots of noise. From the red section.

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2012-07-09 02:25:49 PM  
Read the article, didn't find the float to be overly offensive.

Also, if he's lambasted other Presidents in the past and celebrities, then this isn't anything out of the ordinary.

And just on the off-chance that he's a GOP tard, then he's choosing F&F to be outraged about? That just goes to show how screwed up the GOP is if that's what they're fixating on.
 
2012-07-09 02:30:36 PM  
When you live in fear of the sexual potency of a complete nerd like Obama, you are in pretty sad shape. I'm glad we have the first amendment, so that you're free to embarrass yourselves like this, and I'm free to point and laugh.
 
2012-07-09 02:36:43 PM  

Jackson Herring: "Assault gun"?


Maybe they were trying to call Obama a Nazi?

Link
 
2012-07-09 02:44:17 PM  

Sybarite: The_Sponge: Trolling on the internet is for wimps....trolling in parades takes balls.


Trolling Romney in a parade in Utah, now that would be ballsy. Obama, not so much.



Heh....good point.
 
2012-07-09 02:46:02 PM  

Infernalist: Read the article, didn't find the float to be overly offensive.

Also, if he's lambasted other Presidents in the past and celebrities, then this isn't anything out of the ordinary.

And just on the off-chance that he's a GOP tard, then he's choosing F&F to be outraged about? That just goes to show how screwed up the GOP is if that's what they're fixating on.



Meh....I am definitely not an Obama fan, but something like this doesn't seem like something that should be in a 4th of July Parade, IMHO.
 
2012-07-09 02:46:40 PM  
I'm gonna have to go with "pretty freaking stupid" and "what's the point"; but not "racist" or "anything worth getting your panties in a bunch over".

Seriously, getting worked up over this asinine display seems like a waste of time and brain cells.
 
2012-07-09 02:50:03 PM  
Not racist but enjoyed most by racists.
 
2012-07-09 02:56:46 PM  

EnviroDude: Ahhh.....another American citizen branded as a racist for simply disagreeing with the current administration. I doubt the people slinging the word even know what it means anymore.

Sorry democrats, but your repeated accusations of "being a racist" have watered down the effectiveness of the insult.

Rock on, protestors, rock on.


Agreed. It's getting to the point that the racist charge is about as moving as charges of socialism, taking christ from christmas, taking prayer from school, they tik er jerbs, taking my guns, sekrit moonslem, born in Kenyer, etc, etc. Stupid, baseless accusations made by ill-informed idiots generally don't have much sticking power. Though in many cases the charge of racism has more validity than secret moonslems.
 
2012-07-09 03:04:36 PM  
I perfer a sexual assault gun
 
2012-07-09 03:20:17 PM  

BeesNuts: In other words. What the fark is your problem E. Dude? You off your meds or something?


Phil only sees what he wants to see - i.e. when the behavior of real-life Liberals matches that of the ones in his head.
 
2012-07-09 03:52:35 PM  

Pants full of macaroni!!: BeesNuts: In other words. What the fark is your problem E. Dude? You off your meds or something?

Phil only sees what he wants to see - i.e. when the behavior of real-life Liberals matches that of the ones in his head.



I've always thought of Internet Dentist kind of like this:

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2012-07-09 04:05:27 PM  

Lumpmoose: The NRA is like MADD: they were once highly effective and have accomplished many significant policy and cultural goals. Now that they've basically "won", their primary purpose is evangelizing society since no one wants to close up shop or give up any political clout. They should stick to training and safety and move away from BS politicking.


They National office has two goals these days:
1) Push the Republican message
2) Drive gun/ammo sales by scaring people into thinking Obama is going to take away their guns (see #1)

If you are genuinely interested in a joining a pro-gun right group, there are better organizations out there.
 
2012-07-09 04:20:49 PM  
It looks like he had people from the local Tea Party do his lettering...
 
2012-07-09 04:34:33 PM  
FTA - "While Clawson does not want any negative attention shed on the town of Huntsville..."

You live in Utah, don't you? Utah is to the west coast what Kentucky or Mississippi is to the east coast. The state is loaded with some of the most ignorant and boorish people I've ever come across. Salt Lake City isn't too bad, particularly the downtown area.
 
2012-07-09 05:18:31 PM  

Jackson Herring: "Assault gun"?


Graduates of here, perhaps?

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2012-07-09 05:19:28 PM  
Wow, classless and clueless, that's a helluva combination.

If GOPhers had even a smattering of self awareness they would be heartily ashamed of themselves over this kind of crap but ya know...
 
2012-07-09 05:51:57 PM  

Jackson Herring: "Assault gun"?


As opposed to the Salad Gun.
 
2012-07-09 06:01:49 PM  
Somacandra:
If Clawson has nothing to hide, why didn't he register his float beforehand? Did he accept foreign money for its construction? Is he under the control of the communist homosexual conspiracy from space? Hey, I'm just asking questions.

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2012-07-09 06:15:40 PM  

Sybarite: I haven't been to an Independence Day parade in many years, but I seem to remember them being very rah-rah patriotic. It seems an odd venue for political satire.


This, but given that he apparently has been doing it every damned year since at least the mid-90s and no one has objected when the other presidents were being poked at I'm gonna have to say that the people complaining are the ones with the idiot ball on this one

quatchi: Wow, classless and clueless, that's a helluva combination.

If GOPhers had even a smattering of self awareness they would be heartily ashamed of themselves over this kind of crap but ya know...


.Again, according to the article he's pulled the same shiat with Bush and Clinton over whatever their most recent scandal was at the time. Dude's not necessarily tasteful but he's apparently consistent in his sense of humor and not really racist or partisan.

Honestly, if it was a GOP guy I doubt he'd be picking on Obama for something the administration actually did wrong like F+F. The Republicans tend to complain more about things that are less... actual things and more imaginary or not an actual problem, like birth certificate conspiracies or health care plans including birth control.
 
2012-07-09 06:18:37 PM  
Diogenes:
Where exactly is the dissent? This is stupid, unpatriotic attention whoring.

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2012-07-09 06:22:37 PM  
Diogenes:
The witches in Salem should have just admitted their guilt.

Well, yeah, if they were witches. Somehow, though, I think they weren't. Are you suggesting that Eric Holder did NOT route a bunch of guns to drug cartels, and fail to track them? Interesting approach...
 
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