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(My San Antonio)   Man takes revenge on high school bullies, on the 20 year reunion Facebook page   (mysanantonio.com) divider line 170
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2012-07-09 03:34:15 AM  
22 votes:
Violentsalvation

Have you ever considered moving on with your life? Dork.

Worked in psychology for years. It ain't that frikkin easy for a lot of bullied kids to 'move on' after they've spent about 6 years being picked on, humiliated, emasculated, made a fool of, beaten up, treated like shiat and had their self confidence eaten away bit by bit. At that sensitive age, they're picked on in front of girls (so the bullies can show the chicks how tough and manly they are) which is basically the same as cutting their nuts off.

I've known kids with major I.Q.'s be reduced to trembling, insecure shells, questioning their own intelligence, all because they could not physically fight back. They went on to become neurotics, minimum wage workers, failures at relationships KNOWING they were smarter than the average boss, but doubtful and afraid to use their intelligence.

Convinced they would fail, they never strove to achieve what they really could.

Conversely, I've known high school thugs make it big and into high pay jobs simply because they have high confidence and consider pushing people around to get their own way as natural. Yet they weren't very bright.

I figure most of you have worked for one of these guys at one time or another. He's the boss that threatens to beat your arse, to fire you and after ordering you to do something that screws up, tosses you to the company wolves to protect himself.

I had a boss like that. However, being smarter, before I left the company I arranged for him to have to pay for about $10,000 in equipment repairs that I wrecked, making it look like equipment failure or improper maintenance. I was smart enough to find out that he was responsible for paying for certain types of equipment damage.

I mean, we idolize sports figures with bad attitudes, who have no problem punching out anyone who disagrees with them -- but no one ever considers the lives they wrecked along their climb to fame.
2012-07-09 03:32:29 AM  
16 votes:
It's normal to hold grudges like this one if something really affected you very badly due to someone's or a group's abuse. Imagine being bullied everyday and you couldn't do a thing. Why can't you do a thing? You're alone. They're more powerful than you. They have connections in almost every place you go to. The moment you fight back, they just bully you more. Nobody would help you because they fear of becoming the next target. For some god damn reason your life became one of that a living target, and worst of all, you never even did anything wrong to them except to have been born.

I don't think anyone who doesn't think of revenge or feel anger after being treated so horribly for so many years is a normal person. You feel anger because they hurt you for no other reason than to have someone to hurt. You want revenge because you never did anything wrong to them, yet they always have done bad stuff to you just for fun.

You probably must be some kind of holy person if you could ignore all of the crap that they've done to you and let it all just slide. I guess some people use morals as an excuse to not admit that they feel angry or they want revenge. They want to think that they are "better than them" for not acting upon what they truly think about. Unfortunately, they are lying to themselves, and using morals as their limiter is just another facet of their lack of self-respect and dignity.

This man has pride despite being beaten down repeatedly. Although he can't really do anything, he still has that fighting spirit. He can't physically do anything to his bullies, but his last act of defiance, his last sign that he is still a human being, is that he still has the will to fight back. Once that will is gone, then he truly is a defeated man. This guy has a strong spirit.
2012-07-09 03:47:49 AM  
12 votes:
I just feel sorry for the kids who are bullied these days. Back when I was in high school I was bullied, but at least once I got home I was safe. That was before the internet, though. Nowadays the victim gets home and goes online and the bullying continues. That would suck so farking much.
2012-07-09 12:22:33 AM  
12 votes:
Jesus. Look at the pain in this guy's eyes. Harassed in school, now the state will fark him up more.

No hero's in this story. Just sad.
2012-07-09 04:27:43 AM  
11 votes:
If you've ever bullied anyone in your life and not feel one modicum of guilt, fark you in the ear. You're not a tough person, you're a psychopath. You are maggot shiat of the lowest order and I honestly hope you contract something painful and debilitating. If your kid is a bully and you don't do anything to stop them, I hope your kid gets mauled and eaten by a bear.
2012-07-09 03:18:53 AM  
11 votes:

AverageAmericanGuy: That's pretty sad. 20 years is a long time to hold on to that kind of anger.


I take it you weren't a chronic bullying victim in the awkward years?
2012-07-09 03:42:05 AM  
10 votes:
Attention! All victims of child abuse and rape, you no longer have the right to claim that it affects you after twenty years. Basically, stuff happens and you should get over it. If you were mentally tortured and abused by people your own age during the most formative years of your life, then you have no right to act as if that affected every other relationships and incident of your life.

People have no right to hold grudges, no matter the level of abuse.

Or at least, this is what I'm left to believe from this bullying thread.
2012-07-09 04:09:11 AM  
8 votes:

violentsalvation: Have you ever considered moving on with your life? Dork.


I got bullied in middle and high school too. And not just by the students. By the middle school special-ed teachers as well. It's not exactly something you 'get over' with a snap of the fingers. I still have that shiat pop into my head when my mind has a down moment- when I've got downtime at work, when I'm trying to get to sleep, that kind of thing.

I try not to even look at the middle school anymore, or even use streets that go past it. The only reason I ever go to the high school anymore is because that's my voting precinct and I have to go inside if I haven't voted early. I push myself every day to get to the moment when I can get out of the town where it all happened and, if not mentally leave it behind me, at least physically leave it behind me.

So, yeah. The bullied kids absolutely remember what the bullies did to them. Some will remember it for the rest of their lives. I probably will. I'm not saying this guy is correct in threatening the rest of his class, but I understand where it came from because I've been there too.

/high school class of 2003
2012-07-09 03:22:53 AM  
8 votes:

AverageAmericanGuy: That's pretty sad. 20 years is a long time to hold on to that kind of anger.


Lionel Mandrake: That's a long damn time to hold a grudge.


Fark with people enough during their socially formative years and that's what happens. Recognizing that is an important step to realizing why bullying isn't just "boys being boys" or something that "everyone goes through". While the goodhearted ribbing that goes on between friends is often bond-building, there's always an Officer Farva that sees it, doesn't understand it, picks a target and then goes too far. Sometimes there's more than one of that type. Then you end up with guys like this 20 years later who are still so on edge because of it all that a class reunion makes them completely lose it in public, on Facebook, and make threats like that. Obviously, this was not a well balanced person, and at least part of the reason why is pretty easily traced back to experiences in his socially formative years.

/They're probably all d-bags, but having some d-bags turn other d-bags into potential mass murderers isn't cool.
2012-07-09 02:14:32 AM  
8 votes:
Have you ever considered moving on with your life? Dork.
2012-07-09 01:48:29 AM  
7 votes:
I love how those that harassed me in school are so moral and easily offended now. I see this from friends of friends on facebook.

/One of them even pulled the ethnic insensitivity card because I refused to be outraged over at the Apple employee who wouldn't sell the girl electronics to ship back to Iran. I said it is kinda dumb but it's a law and stated on Apple's website as a policy. And the best course of action would be to change the law, not get angry at the employee. So, I'm a farken racist because of that. Yes, he mentioned her country and race after it, it got that dumb.

I'm sure he doesn't remember the ethnic remarks to me, many years ago.
2012-07-09 01:38:18 AM  
7 votes:
Also, I was bullied pretty bad, but I didn't want to kill anyone. I just wanted to get the fark out of high school.
2012-07-09 03:37:16 AM  
6 votes:

ontariolightning: What kind of dick head punches people for no reason?


We call them "cops".
2012-07-09 03:30:04 AM  
6 votes:

MadCat221: AverageAmericanGuy: That's pretty sad. 20 years is a long time to hold on to that kind of anger.

I take it you weren't a chronic bullying victim in the awkward years?


I was.

I don't even remember the names of the people involved, and it's only been 13 years.

Living well is the best revenge. Not because you get to rub anybody's nose in it, but because, well, you stop giving a shiat. There's other stuff to do.

If I thought of High School as my "glory years" well, that'd be something else. I'd probably feel bitter about somebody who "ruined" them. But I feel pretty sorry for anybody who peaked in HS.
2012-07-09 04:18:48 AM  
5 votes:
It doesn't matter whether the bully remembers, pbjrfym. What matters is that the bullied person remembers.

Let's put it this way. The Philippines still remembers all the stuff the United States did to them in a side battle of the Spanish-American War. Iran still remembers the whole Shah overthrow. Central America still remembers a guy named William Walker from Tennessee who tried to take over the whole region.

Does the average American remember any of that? Hell no. Doesn't mean it doesn't still have an effect.
2012-07-09 03:42:31 AM  
5 votes:
I take far sweeter revenge on the people who bullied me in high school.

I just don't tip them when they deliver my pizza.

/that actually happened.
//more satisfying than you know.
2012-07-09 05:03:50 AM  
4 votes:
Getting over bullying is not as easy as some seem to think. If the extent of the bullying you received was someone calling you names once in awhile or someone hitting you once, that's not really being bullied. Some people endure that shiat for years. Being tortured every day of your life for multiple years tends to affect people. For myself, I don't know if it would have been so bad if I didn't get bullied at home too. I had these farkers torture me all day at school (starting at the bus stop in the morning), and then I would get to go home to a drunk dad who took out all his anger on me. My childhood was a living hell. It's just not something you easily get over in some situations. I basically didn't stand a chance to be normal and while I blame most of that on my dad, I still blame those kids who just made it infinitely worse.
2012-07-09 04:35:18 AM  
4 votes:
I was bullied all throughout elementary school and a fair amount in middle school and high school. It was awful. But they were immature and so was I. If I came across them today I'd say "hi" and be kind to them. I'm not the same person I was then and I don't expect them to be either. We've all grown up and they're another human being going through life just like myself. Heck, there's probably a lot of people that regret being bullies and I'd have no reason not to think they are one of them. Adults can't go back and change how they acted when they were young and neither can I. I think it's best to try not to hold it against them.
2012-07-09 04:33:50 AM  
4 votes:

AverageAmericanGuy: The Shatner Incident: If you've ever bullied anyone in your life and not feel one modicum of guilt, fark you in the ear. You're not a tough person, you're a psychopath. You are maggot shiat of the lowest order and I honestly hope you contract something painful and debilitating. If your kid is a bully and you don't do anything to stop them, I hope your kid gets mauled and eaten by a bear.

Much anger do I sense in this post. Anger leads to hate. Hate leads to suffering. Say as much, Captain Kirk, did not?


No anger. Just telling it like it is. Bullying is a shiatty thing to do because it's absolutely cruel to kids who are really just trying to do the best that they can. Childhood is awkward enough as it is without cruelty.
2012-07-09 03:27:41 AM  
4 votes:
The fact that he wrote these attention-getting threats on the Facebook page so he "wouldn't get bullied at the reunion" suggests that he's never had any idea how to deal with situations, and probably brought a lot of the bullying on himself.

It's unfortunate that he was bullied, and it's never okay to bully someone. On the other hand, it's obvious this guy has more than a few screws loose.
2012-07-09 03:25:30 AM  
4 votes:

AverageAmericanGuy: MadCat221: AverageAmericanGuy: That's pretty sad. 20 years is a long time to hold on to that kind of anger.

I take it you weren't a chronic bullying victim in the awkward years?

Sometimes it's the bullies themselves who are hurt most of all.

:'-(


My empathy for them is a proverbial stump that they themselves cauterized.
2012-07-09 03:22:10 AM  
4 votes:
Everybody gets bullied. I've been bullied. The thing is you either stand up for yourself or you become someones biatch. That is life. It doesn't matter if you're wimpy looking or monstorous. Quit being a pussy and take care of your business.
2012-07-09 03:20:46 AM  
4 votes:
I dealt with bullies in high school as well. I've already had my revenge on most of them. Getting the hell out of that town earlier than most of them was revenge enough. Not moving back, even more so.

It must suck wanting to live in a small town with no economy to speak of, a very corrupt city government, bad weather and it's a stopping point for most of the Twitards on the way to Forks.
2012-07-09 03:11:28 AM  
4 votes:
That's pretty sad. 20 years is a long time to hold on to that kind of anger.
2012-07-09 09:40:01 AM  
3 votes:

Alonjar: I find it fascinating that people harbor so much hate for people who bullied them in school. I had my social issues too, but I attributed that to the more likely source.. my parents. If you're a socially awkward failure who cant deal with these things, its because your parents did a shiat job of raising you.

Dont do a shiat job of raising your children.


Fark yourself with a rake. Hard. My parents were good people, as were the parents of most victims of bullying. Fark you for implying otherwise.

I take it that you've never had someone devote their life to destroying yours. For no farking motive other than wanting to impress their equally sociopathic peers.

/Glad I had some talent at fighting, and that years later those pricks are still paying money to their dentists and chiropractors because of what I did to them when they attacked me for no reason.
2012-07-09 09:36:13 AM  
3 votes:
Bullied in high school? You bet I was. I was a fat, nerdy, kid who loved sci-fi, rock music, and partying. To the Big Dumb Frat Jocks, (hereafter referred to as BGFJs), I was odd. That was their reason for their actions. I was not a BDFJ and I saw nothing appealing about trying to be one. So, they bullied me. Alot. Never anything overtly physical, but it is no fun having three BDFJs shooting needles made out of paper clips into your back and legs. Now their attempts at rumor-mongering were completely ineffective, since I could have cared less what anyone at that school thought of me, I think that's why they went for the little physical things. Understand that these BDFJs were successful with three other students in that the BDFJs made their lives so miserable, they all left the very next year. One made a few attempts at suicide. I do not dwell on those years because, as someone said, 'If you peaked in high school, that is so sad.'. Besides, it was a small southern town with small southern town mentality and the school was (mostly) BDFJs anyway.

But forget??? NEVER! I will never give them the luxury of thinking they got away with their crap. I will never forget that all they had to do was show some intelligence beyond being able to barely grasp a football play that required more than one person to move differently than their normal position. And, I will never forgive. Do I need to seek professional help for this? Maybe, but since I cannot afford such things, that is not going to happen. Does what they did affect me? Sure, but not as bad as what my father did. (He was the real bully, and there was no escape from him). I don't dwell on him too much either, and it always makes me giggle when I get family asking me why I don't call him. (In the 33 years since I have seen the man in person, I have received ONE phone call from him. I used to call on occasion, until I finally wised up and decided it was his turn. He has never called me since that one time 33 years ago. His eyes, fingers and his phone all work. I think that says more than anything he would say to me if he did call.)

Having said that, let me say this. Anyone who says "Just get over it." has never truly been bullied. Oh, they probably got in a few little scuffles, had someone say a few mean things or try to spread a rumor. But they did not go thru what a real bullying victim goes thru. They are like reformed smokers. "If I did it, you can!" Give me a break. Everyone is different, everyone is not going to be able to do what you did, so what you need to do is get over yourselves. And for all those who say, "Stand up for yourselves!" like that is easy as well, let me say you were lucky not to be raised by a tyrant. Tyrants usually do not allow someone to develop self confidence and self determination. Those traits are not sanguine with being the peons under a tyrant. And gods forbid your tyrant ever figures out you want to get away from the tyranny. But I digress.

What this guy said on facebook was not enough to warrant the response he got. He didn't even name anyone or give any indication he was anything but whining. So, we are to be arrested for whining these days?

/After reading this post, I guess I need to get ready for the SWAT team
2012-07-09 09:19:13 AM  
3 votes:
My 20 year reunion was just a couple of weekends ago. I probably haven't coped or moved on as well as some, but my reason for not attending served as the proverbial reminder that I'd bided my time, got away and done okay for myself. I'll never be a shining beacon of muscle and money, existing just to prove "they" were wrong to torture me - I can only be who I am now, a product of what happened back then mixed with what's happened since.

I could tell from the pics that a lot of work went into the reunion, but couldn't really shake the feeling that it was a party for the still-gorgeous-and-popular people, thrown by the same old outsiders in the hopes of joining them if only for one night. The old stereotypes did not necessarily apply: the beautiful stayed that way. No fat white trash transformations. The awkward were still awkward. I would have had nothing new to add to that gathering that wouldn't have sounded like AW bragging. We weren't friends then, and we're not now. It's weird to me that in the context of my work I have to be so social, yet there's a group of 150 people from SW Ohio in their mid to late 30's to which I just have nothing to say.
2012-07-09 08:38:16 AM  
3 votes:
I love the thread full of people saying "I got the best revenge over those assholes! I grew up well rounded and handsome and screw those douchebag, loser, fat people! Ha ha! I got over it!!"

Yeah, you all got over it
2012-07-09 08:10:23 AM  
3 votes:
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That dude ain't gonna hurt nobody. I mean, read the message folks got in a tizzy about.

FTFA: "I stayed away from graduation at the time because I would have started the Columbine shootings early. I was picked on and bullied by a bunch of you when I went to school and I wanted to kill everyone that hurt me. I'm still seeking vengeance on all those who bullied and harassed me when I was growing up or went to school. You people do not know what you did to me."

Big fking whoop. That's the equivalent of some kid drawing an explosion on paper. Except that gets kids arrested nowadays, right?

Dude should never have been arrested, but that's where we are, now. Pussified overprotected children, become pussy adults seeking overprotection.

Dude wasn't making a statement that he was going to blow shiat up. Dude was seeking reassurance that people change, and that he would be welcome at the reunion and bygones are bygones. Dude was seeking assurance that he would be accepted, and that those who hurt him acknowledge he was hurting and they are sorry, but come on down and have a drink anyway.

FTFA: The affidavit states several people were alarmed by the post and were rethinking attending the reunion. He was arrested without incident Friday evening, just as the reunion weekend began at a bar in Fair Oaks Ranch."

- Acts of violence are like suicide. People who make announcements are asking for something. If he really wanted to hurt anyone, he would have just shown up without making a big deal of it, a la Heathers
- I guess the organizers had to report him to the police so that they wouldn't be sued out of existence by other snowflakes attending if something did pop off.
- This is what all of our overprotective helicoptering has gotten us: call the police. Adults can't deal with shiat on their own, because they aren't allowed to do so as kids. And it's that way because of lawyers and insurance companies.

That dude who was bullied, above, would have gotten in trouble himself if he had tried to defend himself. Except in his case, the authorities NEVER helped him, back then or now.

I'm with this dude on this one. I don't know why he wanted to attend, anyway. Well, I do know why, but he sure as hell wasn't going to get the reassurance and acceptance he was seeking by opening up. The way it works in the real world is to shut up, smile and NEVER let your true feelings be known.
2012-07-09 06:13:18 AM  
3 votes:

MagSeven: I was never bullied particularly,


Then kindly shut the fark up until you know what you're talking about.
2012-07-09 05:27:35 AM  
3 votes:
I was bullied a lot because I was short, chubby, wore glasses, had poor hygeine, was odd, lower middle income, and brighter than my peers. So, pretty much every reason to get bullied all rolled into one convenient package. To the poster that said it was emasculating, that's entirely true. I think the most pain the bullying did to me was destroy my confidence. All the same, I didn't really have strong parental guidance and Mom's assertions that "they're just jealous" weren't helping.

They're not jealous; you're different and a target. You are some little shiate's entertainment.

I ended up befriending a bully (not one of mine, just a bully personality-wise) after high school and wasted many years in a sick codependent relationship with a male drama queen. Every poor decision in life and every failed relationship of mine I can trace back to being socially stunted and not being able to develop because my confidence was ruined. I look back at so many missed opportunities; all due to my fear of failure and the irrational sense that I will be ridiculed for it. All those that say "hey get over it" probably had a bad semester. Try years upon years of it.

I have gained a lot of confidence, and one thing I have learned is to never project weakness. Don't ignore, always confront. People don't mess with you then. Having a wife & kids also makes me want to protect them - be a strong father and husband. But I feel as though I have to right those past wrongs through my overcompensation. I refuse to be powerless now, but why did it take so long?

I think the major negative was the feeling of alone. It was always the promise of salvation from people who'd say they'd help you out. "They'll never mess with you with me around." And that was true. But those people that had your back were just never there. The bullies had their numbers and infinite patience on their side. Another horrible thing is the constant need for an audience for their humiliation.

I probably need therapy, who knows. I guess I'm dwelling on it now because my present self looks back on how long it took me to stop being life's punching bag (well into my 20's) and how just a change in your energy and posture affects how people treat you. I guess I'm mainly hung up on the regret of taking too long to break the pattern.
2012-07-09 05:06:28 AM  
3 votes:

shower_in_my_socks: Unfortunately, the dude's totally clueless about how to interact with people. There were kids in school who were bullied for no damn reason, and then there were kids who were targeted because they were awkward oddballs who just didn't know how to socialize and get along with other folks.


The funny thing about bullying is that it can easily make you socially awkward. Partially by undermining your self-confidence, and partially by preventing you from learning the basics of social interaction.
2012-07-09 05:00:33 AM  
3 votes:
To everyone saying 'I was bullied really badly and I got over it', you are forgetting something.

Sometimes the bullying at school isn't the only problem in these kids lives. Sometimes they also get bullied at home (abusive parents or relatives), have medical conditions that make their lives difficult or have had other traumatic events that had a great impact on them.

It's like having heavy rocks placed on your back. Each rock representing a different aspect of the abuse. Most people can handle one. It weighs them down but they struggle on and get through life. But when 2 or 3 are dumped on them it just slowly crushes them.

Each and every human can only handle so much abuse before they snap. Some are lucky and only had to deal with bullying. Some have to deal with other crap as well as the bullying and just can't take it any more.

Living a good life isn't always an option for some people. They just get so much bad luck that they can never get going. Once you have lived a crap existence for long enough you finally realize that you really do have nothing left to loose. That's where things finally take a turn for the worse.

I was tormented by my dad and even though I was bullied at school I actually preferred being at school to being at home most times. Being bullied at school was the lesser of 2 evils. It needs to be said that the bullying I experienced at school wasn't as severe as some though so I have every sympathy. My bullies rarely got physical so weren't on at me 24/7.

If I had suffered truly intense bullying at school, coupled with what my dad did, I'd most likely be an article in a local paper somewhere too.
2012-07-09 04:57:06 AM  
3 votes:

ontariolightning: Everybody gets bullied.


I wish people would stop saying dumbshiat like that. No, everybody does not get bullied, and people who say so have no idea what they're talking about.
2012-07-09 04:30:30 AM  
3 votes:

dv-ous: Since the article is light on specifics, one has to assume it was the same as the bullying and hazing 99% of us nerds went through.

Dude doesn't help his case by talking about "start[ing] the Columbine shootings early." He's a drama queen who clearly didn't feel scarred enough to seek professional help.

I'm sorry if your experiences in high school actually qualified as torture. As opposed to, you know, a reminder that most people are assholes.


I blended all throughout high school. I played sports, participated in debate, and loved anime and video games. I was also big enough to never get farked with, and the few times I did, I could easily hold my own. Light or not on the particulars, people suffer abuse differently and respond differently.

Drama queen or not, these abuses were enough to skew his way of thinking due to the nature of his mental state at the hands of abuse. Some people are beat their whole lives and never show the scars that are left. Some are left to suffer without any support and hope.

His thoughts were framed in the mind of the boy he once was, the boy that suffered enough to think that killing would be justifiable. These are not the thoughts of someone that went through the "usual" or the 99% of nerds that suffered the same as perhaps you did. Abuse during these years perverts their ability to deal with people in a logical and adult manner, and we shouldn't so easily dismiss his pain or the suffering of others. It's simply not fair.

I was going for hyperbole (of course) and was merely illustrating that the differences of abuse mean enough to those abused. Some people suffer rape and become rapists, some do not. Perhaps the human experience is ubiquitous, but humans are also individuals that exemplify the extremes and the averages of these experiences. The worse I ever suffered was being given a false number from a good looking girl, this was enough to make me think that I was an ugly, unwanted guy and thus skewed my ability to talk to women for years. While not enough to destroy my sense of being, it was enough to hobble my social skills well into the college years. You are being unfair to so easily dismiss his suffering, just like those that thought nothing of their abuse later, those that probably didn't even remember his name until his FB post.
2012-07-09 04:29:01 AM  
3 votes:
I was always much bigger than the kids that picked on me. They never got physical, I guess they knew better. I could've squashed any of them like a bug. But I fell for the stupid ass, non existent, "permanent record" bullshiat. I never wanted to get in trouble, because my life would be ruined by having a black mark in this so called chart. Now, 17 years after high school, I realize, no one gives a fark about whether you were suspended for a week, had detention,or whatever. My advice to anybody still in school, kick the shiat out of your nemesis. Don't even wait for them to start with you again, Monday morning, just deck em. It'll be one of the best things you do in your formative years.
2012-07-09 04:11:13 AM  
3 votes:
Maybe they bullied him...because he is a farking weirdo who is the type to threaten to kill his fellow students.

Grow up you creepy, creepy man.

Worst use of Hero tag I've seen in some time.

Had he done something other then sob over his keyboard while he made idle threats to people who have more then likely forgotten his existence...maybe the tag would have been warranted. But honestly...talking trash to people on the internet makes people heroes now? Really?
2012-07-09 03:55:33 AM  
3 votes:

ontariolightning: They were cowards


As were the people who bullied them, who never were punished for it. And of course nothing changed at the school afterwards.
2012-07-09 03:52:32 AM  
3 votes:

ontariolightning: Everybody gets bullied. I've been bullied. The thing is you either stand up for yourself or you become someones biatch. That is life. It doesn't matter if you're wimpy looking or monstorous. Quit being a pussy and take care of your business.


Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold agree.
2012-07-09 03:34:43 AM  
3 votes:

McBatt: When I was 16, I remember being pissed off about something, so I beat a kid up. He was kinda the school punching bag already, and he wasn't helping matters - that particular day, he was bragging that he was wearing a cup, so no one could hurt him. he was actually telling people to kick him in the balls. So instead I went for his stomach, and caught him in the jaw as he crumbled forward, knocking him off his feet backwards. He was already crying before he go up, and just kept asking why I'd hit him, which I had no answer for, really. I later found out it was his 18th birthday.

So even though there had to be two dozen other guys in my class that had done the same thing, the whole thing bothered me for years. I eventually ran into him at a bar 5 years after graduation on one of my rar visits back to that part of the world, and was drunk enough to issue like a 20 minute apology. He had been beaten up so many times that he apparently genuinely didn't remember the particular time I was apologizing for, but seemed to appreciate it.


Okay so you weren't a sociopath asshole but just a temporary one. Glad you got a chance to apologize.
2012-07-09 03:28:32 AM  
3 votes:
fark you and your "trauma".

Who DIDN'T get farked with in high school for some damn reason?

BOO farking HOOOOOO....


No wonder he was picked on in high school.
2012-07-10 11:55:56 AM  
2 votes:
Being the victim of verbal abuse and physical assault is bad enough, but often the abusers are other children, who themselves were the target of abuse, often at the hands of their parents or older siblings. They inflict these experiences on others in an attempt to normalize their own abusive, humiliating, degrading experiences.

But far worse are the scumbags who are in charge of these environments -- the teachers and administrators -- who create the situation where this kind of abuse is prone to occur, where it always occurs. They KNOW it is happening. And yet they do nothing.

Where is the focus on THEM? Why are people so willing to perpetuate these horrid environments, which are deigned and operated for the convenience of the adults collecting the government paycheck?

Calling it "bullying" is part of the problem. The term is designed to trivialize it. When adults experience these attacks, there's a national outcry, especially if it happens to adult women. Just look at the reaction a few weeks ago to a sign that some town put up making a joke about construction workers making lewd comments to women. That was just stray, random, mild harassment, directed toward adults, who have options. When that sort of thing happens in the workplace, there is an entire court system and series of governmental agencies standing at the ready to respond to claims that people are experiencing abuse, aggression and attacks.

But when children are the victims, of repeated, constant psychological torture, in an environment where they cannot leave, ranging from verbal harassment to outright threats to physical violence, it's called "bullying." Being the victim of assault and battery is bad enough, but what makes the psychological trauma far worse is when the victim is told (by words or action) that what happened is trivial, or that the abuse is normal.

The real crime here is the constant propagation and defense of that false morality -- that abusers are tolerated (or that their abuse is trivial), but retaliatory violence against abusers is somehow a great unforgivable wrong.

You can't have it both ways. Either attacks are wrong for everyone or for no one.

I was never the victim of that kind of child abuse, but I've seen it happen. The psychological contortions that adults will go through to rationalize and ignore their complicity is always astounding.
2012-07-10 01:02:56 AM  
2 votes:

MattyFridays: So if the situation was so lousy at home, why did you give such a rats ass against defending your home from a vandal in the first place? Sounds like you're not telling the whole story or at the very least, a skewed perspective of it.


Home is home. Despite how bad it was for me, it was also where my brothers and grandmother lived too. And I was not going to let some piece of shiat rip off all the shingles off of our roof no matter who and what his mommy is.

And what is your perspective? It sounds like you have a problem with me because I had an avalanche of shiat dumped on me because I was defending my home, and not with the person who instigated the problem in the first place. Are you one of those people with women getting raped because they might've dressed provocatively? Or maybe you're one of those people who thought Reginald Denny deserved to have his head cracked open in 1992 because he drove through a black neighborhood?

So you tell me, do you think victims deserve to be victimized?
2012-07-09 04:08:11 PM  
2 votes:
My attitude toward bullying has changed over the years. I used to feel like "I went through it, everyone should" or something like that. I do think some of it is overblown...people need to be exposed to the fact that the world isn't always kind and supportive, there's an important lesson in that. But bullying is really another word for abuse, it is a particularly sadistic and destructive form of abuse that can permanently scar and destroy a person. I don't talk about what I went though, there's not really a point...and what I dealt with was mild. And I had to deal with it my own way, and while I've finally made peace with it, I still carry a rage toward certain people. I wouldn't set go anywhere near a high school reunion, because I really don't care about those people. There was two kinds of people in high school, in regards to how I was treated...bullies and silent consenters. I do not have the time or interest in dealing with any of them (the few people who didn't fit this description I still try to keep in touch with, but they are few). No, you don't forget abuse. You don't forget trauma. It lingers and shapes who you are...some people are lucky and supported enough to rise above it...not everyone.

But there was one person in here who mentioned beating up a kid and feeling bad for years, and people are giving him a hard time about it. Thing is that he did change, he did feel what he did, he tried to make it right. Sometimes people become abusive who are not "evil people". When I was in school, there was a mentally disabled girl who rode the same bus I did. The bus kids were some of the cruelest people I ever met (the abusers even liked to abuse each other if they saw a weakness or pain they could exploit). Normally I was one of the targets, but she was a particular target for them. I never stuck up for her or anything, and for awhile I just enjoyed the fact that someone else was getting targeted. Eventually I joined in slightly, while I never did anything serious, I made jokes at her expense and joined in the shunning. And by that, I got to socialize with the people I hated. Now years later, I have spent a decade working with developmental disabilities, where I actively defend people like her and help them deal with society. I've seen how abuse affects people first hand, I've often had to talk handicapped people with PTSD out of injuring someone else. We call it bullying because child abuse sounds too strong...even calling it bullying is a means of not looking directly at it, by redefining it. It's straight up child abuse...

I am not really bothered by this guy speaking his mind. He's really writing from anger and pain, and it shows...I don't think he is actually going to snap and "go Columbine" as they used to say when I was in school. I know those thoughts and urges...I was in school when Columbine happened, and people used to call me the next Eric Harris, they liked to taunt me by saying I would be the next school shooter. I never did anything to them...never tried anything, never even came close to carrying such a thing out. But by hearing that over and over, the thoughts were there, and the anger was there. People like to make their own monsters...they abuse people and the manipulate them by saying "you are such and such (gay, a nerd, tramp, a mass murderer...)" over and over, until the hearer believes it...I resisted this, but this extreme form of peer pressure can really misshape people.
2012-07-09 02:38:37 PM  
2 votes:
My son was bullied in middle school. It got so bad that he'd start crying in the morning, asking to stay home from school each day. Eventually I got him transferred to another school. None of his teachers even acknowledged anything was wrong.

I consider myself nonviolent, but I really wanted to beat each of those kids senseless for hurting my son.
2012-07-09 11:51:10 AM  
2 votes:

Coelacanth: Gosling: There was this back room in the special-ed 'classroom' where they'd stick anyone they didn't feel like dealing with. They'd stick you in there, lock the door and just leave you there for however long they felt like. If they didn't like you you reacted to this, they'd remove all the furniture from the room and leave you in what was now a blank box of a room, again locking the door. The kids in there tended not to react well at this. Often the kid would burst out in tears. Me included. This was the cue to occasionally have three different special-ed teachers burst back into the room and basically pin the kid to the ground until they stopped crying

When Ronald Reagan was governor of California, he destroyed the best school system in the United States and possibly the world. Instead of trying to help children with problems, they'd bus across town to a designated 'warehouse facility'. They would stuff the mentally handicapped, the physically handicapped, the antisocial, and of course, bullies from all over Los Angeles and Long Beach into two small classrooms.

I got sent there because I had hauled off and knocked a bully on his ass when he attempted to vandalize my family's home. His mother was a PTA chairwoman who abused her authority and used her connections to protect her precious snowflake. I spent two and a half years in a snake pit because of her and her son. There were physical and sexual assaults by both students and faculty. 90% of the time was spent just standing around. There was no real attempt to teach us students anything else except sit down and be quiet.

I came out of that experience with PTSD. Sometimes I have panic attacks when I see a school bus. And I religiously keep an eye on school reunion sites too.


3.bp.blogspot.com

Its amazing how you manage to blame so many other people for your issues.

deal with it.
2012-07-09 10:04:19 AM  
2 votes:
I think a lot of the people that don't see what the "big deal is" were not truly bullied in their formative years.

As a black, jewish, 2-years younger, financial aid case, that was the smallest kid in three grades, I can say with certainty that the average person has no concept of what constant bullying can do to a person's psyche and sense of self worth. To wake up each day knowing that you will be beaten, farked with and laughed at by numerous people is soul crushing. Knowing you'll get no support from teachers or even other students that get bullied only makes the sense of despair worse.

Getting pushed into walls, punched, beaten and humiliated on a daily basis shouldn't be dismissed so lightly. And it's not like the effect magically disappears after high school. With many it makes them paranoid, untrusting and so socially inept that they have trouble forming any meaningful friendships after that. So the habit of reclusion and paranoia just repeats itself.

I don't think what the guy did was right, but I can see where he's coming from. This was the lashing out that he couldn't muster the courage to do in high school. I hope he gets some help. Still not understanding the hero tag though.

/sorry. didn't mean to turn this into vent fest. Bullying is a hard topic for me and hard to discuss without thinking of the hell I went through growing up
2012-07-09 09:55:39 AM  
2 votes:

PunGent: kliq: The best use of the pent-up anger from being bullied: kick ass at the gym. Even if you never meet those bastards again, you'll be happy with the muscles you'll sprout, in addition to being happier from channeling a deep reservoir of rage.

This.

Got picked on, not too badly, in high school. But there's a couple guys who I remember quite clearly.

Been to every reunion since, not looking for trouble, but if one of those fat, weak, balding bullying mofos wants to start something, well, it won't be me backing down this time. Got a couple decades of various martial arts to try out...in self defense only.



Are you sure you weren't actually one of the bullies, you've just misremembered it?
2012-07-09 09:45:14 AM  
2 votes:

Cookbook's Anarchist: Attention! All victims of child abuse and rape, you no longer have the right to claim that it affects you after twenty years. Basically, stuff happens and you should get over it. If you were mentally tortured and abused by people your own age during the most formative years of your life, then you have no right to act as if that affected every other relationships and incident of your life.

People have no right to hold grudges, no matter the level of abuse.

Or at least, this is what I'm left to believe from this bullying thread.


We're learning from real-time MRIs and the like that abuse...and not just physical abuse... can leave actual, physical changes in the brain (almost like scar tissue in the rest of the body) that the neural network then has to work around.

So, it may not be possible for some people to "get over it."
2012-07-09 09:28:40 AM  
2 votes:
The best use of the pent-up anger from being bullied: kick ass at the gym. Even if you never meet those bastards again, you'll be happy with the muscles you'll sprout, in addition to being happier from channeling a deep reservoir of rage.
2012-07-09 09:19:41 AM  
2 votes:

MagSeven: Well it was by one kid once a year or so for four years. And I guess you're right. It wasn't bullying as much as "attempted bullying".


It wasn't even that. "Once a year" is a kid being a dick. Try every day of the week, every week of the month, every month of the year, year after year. Bullying isn't an incident or even a series of incidents; it's a permanent situation.
2012-07-09 09:07:10 AM  
2 votes:
I didn't have a great high school experience. Part of that was on me, because I was too immature.

I don't see it as "boo hoo hoo I was picked on/bullied/excluded", etc. I freely admit that some of it was my own fault.

Incidentally, I got my invite for my 20 year high school reunion last week.

I've been thinking long and hard about going. I went to my 10 year, and I didn't really get anything out of it, outside of a girl drunkenly telling me that she wanted to marry a guy like me.

I mean, what's the point? Reunions are to relive good times, and I didn't have a lot in high school. I don't need to show anyone up, "look at me, I've got a beautiful wife, look at me, I've got a beautiful kid, look at me, I've got a stable job I like."
2012-07-09 09:03:02 AM  
2 votes:

MattyFridays: Something that is missing from a lot of this bullying talk is that did you ever think that some people who were shunned and belittled in high school were actually people who were deserving of it?

I'm sorry, if you post talk of Columbine and seeking "revenge" - 20 years after the fact - then that makes you just as bad as the perceived bullying you got.

Some people get bullied for the wrong reasons - being gay, being fat, being ugly. Other people are just wired wrong and even if you're nice to them they are still wired wrong.


Spoken like somebody who is wired wrong.
2012-07-09 08:58:03 AM  
2 votes:

MagSeven: Never said it didn't happen. Just not particularly, as in regularly or often.


If it wasn't regular and often, it wasn't bullying.
2012-07-09 08:57:12 AM  
2 votes:

SnakeLee: I bullied the shiat out of this kid when I was younger and I feel pretty bad about it. Writing him on Facebook seems so corny though


I think you should do it anyway.

If one of the kids who bullied me back in the day just came out of the past to apologize, I would sincerely think of it as a very classy act.

People do change as they grow up.
2012-07-09 08:46:57 AM  
2 votes:

MagSeven: ExperianScaresCthulhu: [ww2.hdnux.com image 376x471] [1.bp.blogspot.com image 320x240] That dude ain't gonna hurt nobody. I mean, read the message folks got in a tizzy about.


The "I'm still seeking vengeance" line that was preceded by the Columbine talk might have raised a few eyebrows among the alumni.


"Oh noes, the kid drew a rocket launcher with flames coming out of it and aimed it towards the school, arrest the kid!"

No. Eyebrows raised or not, 'I'm still seeking vengeance' really means 'I'm still seeking acceptance'. Dude wanted those who tormented him to not only apologize, but to feel such remorse that they begged forgiveness. If he was really seeking violent vengeance, he would have just shown up and got things popping. He didn't.

But like in Gosling's historical examples above, there are two types of bullies: those who get off on it, and those who don't see themselves as bullying or the bullying they did as mattering at all. The bullied person is traumatized and wants closure, but the bully can't give it because the bully doesn't see anything wrong. For this dude in the article, he wanted something which was never going to be given to him by his former classmates.

He had no one to speak up for him during his high school years, and no one is willing to speak up for him afterwards. He still feels the pain, but everyone else has 'gotten over it' because there's nothing for them to get over. His pain is irrelevant to their lives. Now, where his pain intersects with possible pain inflicted on their own lives, yeah, suddenly it matters.

But no one is speaking up for this dude. No one acknowledges his pain. He is punished for saying 'this still matters to me'. This article does not interview or acknowledge anyone who says 'I remember him' or 'I remember what he went through'. No one is standing up for him or beside him or with him. He was treated as a monster back then, and he's treated as a monster now.

This dude needs help, yes. And he went about askin for what he really wanted, in the wrong way. But that doesn't change that he was really asking for remorse and acknowledgement of what he went through........... and didn't get it.

I feel bad for this dude. I feel bad because there were several ways this was handled. I feel bad because I understand why the nuclear 'Call the Police and the Attorneys' option was utilized. And I feel bad because the eyebrow raisers are probably the very ones who did the most damage back then turning him into what he is now. Just a feelin'.
2012-07-09 08:45:20 AM  
2 votes:

Dimensio: untaken_name: Savage Belief: It seems to me a better way to get revenge is to show up at your 20yr reunion a well rounded, successful person who didn't let the bullying consume their lives.

That may be a good response to the situation, but how can you say it's a better way to get revenge? It's way worse. A better way would be to arrange a really elaborate maze of death and make them all go through it, only to find out that there's no exit and it's on fire. Now, before you disagree with me, take a second to think of each of our scenarios as an action movie, and ask yourself: Which movie would you rather see?

Any plan for revenge that results in the subject being dead, rather than being alive and facing years -- if not decades -- of living with crippling disfigurement, is not a properly arranged plan.


To the pain, then?
2012-07-09 08:37:33 AM  
2 votes:

Savage Belief: It seems to me a better way to get revenge is to show up at your 20yr reunion a well rounded, successful person who didn't let the bullying consume their lives.


That may be a good response to the situation, but how can you say it's a better way to get revenge? It's way worse. A better way would be to arrange a really elaborate maze of death and make them all go through it, only to find out that there's no exit and it's on fire. Now, before you disagree with me, take a second to think of each of our scenarios as an action movie, and ask yourself: Which movie would you rather see?
2012-07-09 08:16:16 AM  
2 votes:
I was bullied, beaten up, harassed, and picked-on from grade 4 until the day I graduated high school, 9 years later (we still had grade 13/OAC back then). That much abuse has an affect on you, and changes you permanently.

I've always been a quirky individual, and perhaps that was part of what led to the initial attacks. Added to that was my small size, scrawny build, and low strength (in grade 6 several of the girls beat me arm-wrestling). There was no way for me to fight back against even one of my aggressors, let alone the packs they typically came in.

I've gotten over most of the trauma, and forgotten many of the details, but one image still stands out in my mind. I was after a pack of about 5 or 6 boys had chased me down in the school yard, surrounded me, roughed me up and knocked me to the ground. I was on my hands and knees, as they stood around me, afraid to stand back up, because for the moment they weren't physically assaulting me. As they taunted me and called me names, I remember looking down at the ground and seeing my blood on the gravel. I also remember that there were many other instances similar to this one.

When I went to high school, things changed a bit. I had started to grow (although I never got much stronger, I got taller and filled out). I developed a bad case of acne, which the bullies loved to point out. My quirkiness and shyness now added to the social awkwardness brought about by the bullying. I hadn't learned a lot of the skills I needed around people, and those I had learned lead me to be withdrawn, defensive, and stand-offish.

I didn't see any of the old bullies any more, but new ones filled their place. By that point I was so jumpy around other people that it was fairly easy for them to pick up on the fact that I'd been abused, and to take advantage of it. It became far more psychological than physical, although there was just enough contact to keep me reminded of what it was like.

I was a mess. After high school I had a breakdown, attempted suicide several times and was in and out of the psych ward for a couple years. I started to spend more and more time online, where I found I could experiment socially, and learn social skills in a controlled and safe environment. I met several good friends.

By age 20, I had my first girlfriend. She was the first person I'd met who wasn't either hostile towards me, pitying of me, or indifferent. She taught me a lot about what the world was like away from a bullying environment.

I'm 34 now, and I've come a long way since then. I have a good, stable job that I enjoy. My anxiety and depression are well-treated, and I haven't had thoughts of suicide in about 5 years. I've moved on with my life, but it wasn't without a lot of hard work, and a lot of time. Those bullies took enough of my life. I'm not giving them any more.

So yeah, I can see how this guy could still be farked up 20 years later. If I hadn't had a supportive family, a few good friends, and had let my pain consume me and my thoughts, I could be right there with him. I feel bad for this guy. Those bullies took his adolescence from him, and now they've taken his adulthood as well.

tl;dr - I was bullied for years, worked through it, got over it, and completely understand where this guy is coming from
2012-07-09 07:31:16 AM  
2 votes:

Lionel Mandrake: That's a long damn time to hold a grudge.


You're right! We should teach our kids "Do whatever you want, treat people any way you want, and EVENTUALLY they have to get over it because "holding a grudge" is a BAAAAD thing"
2012-07-09 07:26:13 AM  
2 votes:
You know how I got revenge on the people who bullied me in high school? I went away to college and made a decent life for myself. I win.
2012-07-09 07:08:44 AM  
2 votes:
if it wernt for bullies where would we cops come from
2012-07-09 06:43:31 AM  
2 votes:
Bullies have a lifelong effect. Most of my high school experiences were fine, I suppose. I went on enough dates, played in a few rock bands (one successful one), had friends... but I had two bullies. One was a student who I had been friends with in junior high. Starting our third year of high school, he became a daily tormentor. All talk, but nasty stuff. I was lower middle class, his dad was a well-paid doctor, they lived in a very fancy house. I never fought back. It seemed he was in all remedial classes. I suspect his well-educated dad had little sympathy for his only child being nearly uneducatable.

But the real bully I had was the vice principal/dean of boys, George Dragon (yeah, that was his name). He was old school: crew cut, and he hated long haired boys, rock music, intellectuals and especially the then new hippies. Every year our school had a "lamp" fight, where an antique lantern would be fought over between the junior and senior boys. As the kids were hospitalized or jailed, they would be made to spend time in his office... where he would joke with the fighters and all enjoyed a "boys will be boys" comraderie. But me... with hippie rock musician clothes, medium length hair and huge mutton chop sideburns... he hated me. He started by telling me to shave my sideburns off. Then he demanded I shave 'em. I would ask what rule he had to force me to shave... there was none. He threatened me with saying he would dry shave me with a straight razor in the bathroom. I told him to try it and face a lawsuit. One morning he saw me entering the building and there was no one around to see. He grabbed me by my shirt, lifting me a foot or more off the ground (I was 5'10" and 118 pounds; he was well over six feet and close to 200 pounds) and started to raise a fist to punch me in the face. As he drew his arm back, two members of the student government (vice president and justice of the student court) who were friends of mine saw him and yelled. He threw me to the concrete path. He disappeared into his office; they took me to the school nurse.

I was hurting... bruised but uncut. They told my story to the nurse; she called them liars. I went to class.

My mom was married to my first stepdad. He was an alcoholic wifebeater. It's not like they could help my bullying battles or even give any emotional support. I was alone; my allies had no power.

I moved away from my parents, that town, and left all my friendships behind the day after graduation.

Now, 45 years later, I am asked for Facebook friendship by a number of high school classmates. Most remember the incident. We converse about it not at all. The dean of boys went on to be the principal of that high school. Then one of the classmates started writing of the wonderful Mr. Dragon. This classmate was a jock and a two-year lamp fighter. "Oh, he was cool, he knew we were just being boys." I wrote him privately that I thought Dragon was a bully. He called me a liar. But not in private... on my Facebook page. Three of our classmates tried to straighten him out on what happened to me. He called them all liars. He is the only person I have "unfriended" on Facebook.

Now I do all I can (in my kids' PTAs, as a soccer coach, as a softball and little league coach and manager, and with my grandkids) to stand up against bullying. I try to give the victims strength, but often settle for some small inner peace for them to hold onto.

The bullies forget, but the victims never do.
2012-07-09 05:42:36 AM  
2 votes:
The psychopaths and trolls are outing themselves big time in this thread. It's like they're glowing in the dark.
2012-07-09 04:46:20 AM  
2 votes:
After 20 years, that's on you.

Get the fark over dude.
2012-07-09 04:44:51 AM  
2 votes:
I have to admit - and I know this makes me an ass - that as wrong as this guy was, I like to think that bullies are walking around wondering whether the kid they beat up for his milk money is still stewing 20 years later. It gives me the warm fuzzies to think of some high school jerk jock never getting a moment's peace for the rest of his life.

Imagine you've forgotten all about it, you're on your second wife, third kid, and first case of cirrhosis, and you see this facebook post: "Hello, Morty. It's Dave. Bet you forgot allll about me, huh?"

On the flipside, I'm convinced that I HAVE inflated my own experiences being bullied. I was actually pretty faceless in school. For the decade after graduation, I did occasionally experience a grim satisfaction as my mother reported that one idiot after another got hauled off to jail, usually for incredibly stupid stuff. It's not like any of them went on to be millionaires or anything. But, really, that was about it; to whatever extent I dwell on it now, it's my own problem.

I hate BULLIES, in general - but MY bullies, I don't really think about enough to be stupid about it.
2012-07-09 04:37:03 AM  
2 votes:

the lord god: The Shatner Incident: If you've ever bullied anyone in your life and not feel one modicum of guilt, fark you in the ear. You're not a tough person, you're a psychopath. You are maggot shiat of the lowest order and I honestly hope you contract something painful and debilitating. If your kid is a bully and you don't do anything to stop them, I hope your kid gets mauled and eaten by a bear.

You must live near a beach. Because I am hearing a lot of chaffing from that sandy vagina of yours.


You must live in a cave because it's awful hard to see a point in the dark. That, or your head is up your ass.
2012-07-09 04:35:54 AM  
2 votes:

gadian: Dude could have resolved it in therapy or with drugs or both. While I believe there is Get Over It Pussy bullying (shoving in halls, name calling, spitballs, etc) and Real Bullying (constant torment, daily beatings, etc), none of it really warrants throwing your own life away for. What is the best revenge, but a happy, successful life? Not getting better is letting the bullies win and proving them right.


Like it is so easy...
I have been bullyed for a couple of year, and I'm not weak, and it was still difficult to go on with my life.
20 years later, I might punch one of those guy if I see one alone.

But it can get a lot worse as what I had to live thru, for a longer time.
I would never dare to say to someone "just go on"
2012-07-09 04:26:54 AM  
2 votes:

MNguy: What? I don't believe you. Or you have an incredibly warped view of what 'bullying' is.


Oh yes. They stuck me in special-ed after misdiagnosing me with ADHD (I was later rediagnosed with Asperger's- they had me tested and everything; there was this one test i remember that involved staring at a computer and clicking boxes for three hours straight). There was maybe two or three kids in there with actual special-ed issues, me being one of them. The rest was just kids the mainstream teachers didn't want to deal with. I think the teachers just lumped everyone in the 'troublemaker' archetype and acted accordingly.

There was this back room in the special-ed 'classroom' where they'd stick anyone they didn't feel like dealing with. They'd stick you in there, lock the door and just leave you there for however long they felt like. If they didn't like you you reacted to this, they'd remove all the furniture from the room and leave you in what was now a blank box of a room, again locking the door. The kids in there tended not to react well at this. Often the kid would burst out in tears. Me included. This was the cue to occasionally have three different special-ed teachers burst back into the room and basically pin the kid to the ground until they stopped crying.

You'd be in there for up to half the school day sometimes.

This is about the point where my grades started dropping from what was nothing but A's and B's in elementary school and repeated second-place finishes in the school geography bee (I'd have won but for the fact that the same guy beat me every year in the final). Can't imagine why.
2012-07-09 03:55:40 AM  
2 votes:

basilbrush: Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold agree.


Actually, no they don't. Columbine was never about bullying. That was some insanely irresponsible reporting that arose out of the media's need to tell a story that made sense to middle America.
2012-07-09 03:39:36 AM  
2 votes:

GreenSun: This man has pride despite being beaten down repeatedly. Although he can't really do anything, he still has that fighting spirit. He can't physically do anything to his bullies, but his last act of defiance, his last sign that he is still a human being, is that he still has the will to fight back. Once that will is gone, then he truly is a defeated man. This guy has a strong spirit.


I disagree. I think that it takes strength to take anger and transmute it into something else, something positive. It takes strength to realize people treated you badly, realize they made you feel like garbage, and also realize that THEY WEREN'T RIGHT ABOUT IT.

This guy? He's wallowed in his own misery and self-loathing for twenty years. That's not pride, that's masochism.
2012-07-09 03:31:07 AM  
2 votes:
When I was 16, I remember being pissed off about something, so I beat a kid up. He was kinda the school punching bag already, and he wasn't helping matters - that particular day, he was bragging that he was wearing a cup, so no one could hurt him. he was actually telling people to kick him in the balls. So instead I went for his stomach, and caught him in the jaw as he crumbled forward, knocking him off his feet backwards. He was already crying before he go up, and just kept asking why I'd hit him, which I had no answer for, really. I later found out it was his 18th birthday.

So even though there had to be two dozen other guys in my class that had done the same thing, the whole thing bothered me for years. I eventually ran into him at a bar 5 years after graduation on one of my rar visits back to that part of the world, and was drunk enough to issue like a 20 minute apology. He had been beaten up so many times that he apparently genuinely didn't remember the particular time I was apologizing for, but seemed to appreciate it.
2012-07-09 03:30:02 AM  
2 votes:
Wouldnt shock me if subby is the psychotic dude in the article
2012-07-09 03:23:23 AM  
2 votes:
a little counseling could go a long way for some folks. geez, drop a dime, schedule a visit.
2012-07-09 03:19:37 AM  
2 votes:
He'll get over it.
2012-07-09 03:19:21 AM  
2 votes:
Sad, sad, situation. No winners here. I do wonder how much he was truly bullied and how much it has blown up in his own mind over the last 20 years. Some people make their own victimhood their own 'big fish' story. It gets worse every time they retell it and they even believe the exaggerated version of it themselves.

He does look like he's had a hard life.
2012-07-09 03:09:43 AM  
2 votes:

Makh: I love how those that harassed me in school are so moral and easily offended now. I see this from friends of friends on facebook.

/One of them even pulled the ethnic insensitivity card because I refused to be outraged over at the Apple employee who wouldn't sell the girl electronics to ship back to Iran. I said it is kinda dumb but it's a law and stated on Apple's website as a policy. And the best course of action would be to change the law, not get angry at the employee. So, I'm a farken racist because of that. Yes, he mentioned her country and race after it, it got that dumb.

I'm sure he doesn't remember the ethnic remarks to me, many years ago.


Cool story. I'm sure you'll stick it to 'em on Facebook any day now.
2012-07-09 02:18:03 AM  
2 votes:
That's a long damn time to hold a grudge.
2012-07-09 01:50:20 AM  
2 votes:

Godscrack: Jesus. Look at the pain in this guy's eyes. Harassed in school, now the state will fark him up more.

No hero's in this story. Just sad.


Came to note the sad eyes. Wonder what his fark handle is...
2012-07-09 12:01:16 AM  
2 votes:
But of course the original bullying will go unpunished... damn bullies, they always pull the Eddie Haskall and get away with it...
2012-07-11 01:43:44 AM  
1 votes:
adjacent.ca
2012-07-10 10:58:52 PM  
1 votes:

SnakeLee: I bullied the shiat out of this kid when I was younger and I feel pretty bad about it. Writing him on Facebook seems so corny though


DO IT! Please! Then tell us what he said.
2012-07-10 01:47:19 PM  
1 votes:

the lord god: Enlighten us please. Regale us with your tale of what a living hell your teenage years were. How unfair it all was.

And once you release all the pent up nerd rage take a few minutes to think. Everyone has problems all throughout life. Everyone must deal with a bully/bullies at some point.

You and the nerd squad here are no different than those you can not allow yourself to get over.


Okay, here's your enlightenment.

Your logic:
1. Everybody has problems in life.
2. All problems faced by everybody are equal, thus everybody is the same.
3. Ergo, those being bullied are as bad as those doing the bullying.
4. Conclusion: They deserved it, so you don't have to feel bad about it.

It's well known that bullying is an attempt to take others down to one's own miserable level. What you're doing here is a classic example of that. Must suck to be you.

/My pity, you has it.
//The guy that made my life hell for three years ended up committing suicide.
2012-07-10 11:27:20 AM  
1 votes:

indarwinsshadow: Kid, the advice is free. You can take it or leave it. It's up to you. Good luck whatever you decide to do though. Sounds like you're going to need it.


And it was worth every penny that I paid for it. I am fine. All of my demons from my childhood have been laid to rest. I do not dwell on what happened to me at the hands of this bully in high school. Hell, I almost never think of him. Nor was my reaction at the reunion planned. It just happened. But, given that this thread is about high school bullies I figured it was a good place to tell my story. Seems that some people are reading far too much into this than there really is. Of course, that is to be expected, what with all the psychiatrists and psychologists that hang out here. So, yeah, thanks for the advice.
2012-07-10 12:40:36 AM  
1 votes:
All the people who were reconsidering showing up at the 20 year reunion probably need to be shot, you can tell that those were most likely the bullies and are afraid of receiving there just due.
2012-07-09 11:11:46 PM  
1 votes:

Bathia_Mapes: Mock26: I have actually moved on from this. But why do some people insist that in order to "grow up" that you have to forgive someone for the wrongs they did in the past?

IMHO, you don't have to forgive those who bullied you, but if you dwell on the bullying for years after you've graduated, it tends to eat your alive.

I didn't nor do I plan to forgive my bullies. Instead, I leave them behind and move forward, not because I think it makes me better than others, but because I feel it's necessary for my mental well-being.


And that's exactly what Mock26 did: he left the bully behind. There appears to be a bunch of people on this thread who think he needs to be the old bully's friend. i don't think that's necessary or even desirable for moving on.
2012-07-09 10:57:14 PM  
1 votes:

Mock26: I have actually moved on from this. But why do some people insist that in order to "grow up" that you have to forgive someone for the wrongs they did in the past?


IMHO, you don't have to forgive those who bullied you, but if you dwell on the bullying for years after you've graduated, it tends to eat your alive.

I didn't nor do I plan to forgive my bullies. Instead, I leave them behind and move forward, not because I think it makes me better than others, but because I feel it's necessary for my mental well-being.
2012-07-09 07:41:50 PM  
1 votes:

Mock26: indarwinsshadow: Mock26: indarwinsshadow: ExperianScaresCthulhu: Mock26: I was bullied in High School, and it affected me for years afterwards. At my High School reunion my bully came up to me as I was talking to some friends and said "Hello" to me. I turned, looked at him and said, "Who are you?" He told me his name and I replied, "Sorry, but I do not remember me. Now if you will excuse me I am talking to my classmates." I then ignored him. He stood their awkwardly for about a minute and then walked away. Everyone in that group had been picked on or made fun of by him and we all shared a smile and then continued our discussion.

That wasn't cool.

Agreed. It just shows that he grew up. You didn't. (Mock26). The guy probably wanted to apologize or at least try and make amends. All you did was show you're still a petty jerk. You only made yourself look like a child.

Considering that he was heard calling people "nerds" at the reunion I seriously doubt he wanted to apologize. And even if he wanted to apologize, why should I be required to accept it or even listen to it? I did not like him in High School. I did not like him for the 2 years we played in the same softball league about 8 years after high school (a league that he was kicked out of for throwing body slamming me while rounding 2nd after hitting a home run off of him). And I absolutely did not like him when a very dear friend of mine passed away and after the funeral he came up to me and said, "I f*cked her once. She was hot." So why in all of hades should I ever want to listen to this person speak to me?

I have actually moved on from this. But why do some people insist that in order to "grow up" that you have to forgive someone for the wrongs they did in the past?


I'm 45. I realized long ago life is to short to stay mad. Maybe the guy is a jerk. Who knows? You never gave him a chance either way. You didn't mention in your original post over hearing this person call anyone anything. You left t ...


he must be trolling you.
no one with their head on straight really thinks if you aren't exceedingly polite to some prick, that has been a major asshole to you for a decade and has violently assaulted you on at least one occasion, that at that point you are the asshole with the issues for not trying to get to know him better.
it can't be for real. idarwin can't actually think he is just helping you adjust with his ridiculous advice. impossible. impossible.
2012-07-09 06:43:44 PM  
1 votes:

indarwinsshadow: ExperianScaresCthulhu: Mock26: I was bullied in High School, and it affected me for years afterwards. At my High School reunion my bully came up to me as I was talking to some friends and said "Hello" to me. I turned, looked at him and said, "Who are you?" He told me his name and I replied, "Sorry, but I do not remember me. Now if you will excuse me I am talking to my classmates." I then ignored him. He stood their awkwardly for about a minute and then walked away. Everyone in that group had been picked on or made fun of by him and we all shared a smile and then continued our discussion.

That wasn't cool.

Agreed. It just shows that he grew up. You didn't. (Mock26). The guy probably wanted to apologize or at least try and make amends. All you did was show you're still a petty jerk. You only made yourself look like a child.


Considering that he was heard calling people "nerds" at the reunion I seriously doubt he wanted to apologize. And even if he wanted to apologize, why should I be required to accept it or even listen to it? I did not like him in High School. I did not like him for the 2 years we played in the same softball league about 8 years after high school (a league that he was kicked out of for throwing body slamming me while rounding 2nd after hitting a home run off of him). And I absolutely did not like him when a very dear friend of mine passed away and after the funeral he came up to me and said, "I f*cked her once. She was hot." So why in all of hades should I ever want to listen to this person speak to me?

I have actually moved on from this. But why do some people insist that in order to "grow up" that you have to forgive someone for the wrongs they did in the past?
2012-07-09 05:32:36 PM  
1 votes:

relcec: NotSubby: relcec: RexTalionis: relcec: there is no requirement society forgive a confirmed sociopath who gets pleasure from inflicting violence on the weak.

If the action bothered McBatt enough for 5 years and was enough to issue an apology, then I don't think he's a sociopath.

yeah, I know. he apologized five years later when he happened upon the victim in a bar. it obviously was eating away at him. mcbatt probably had trouble eating and sleeping until that cathartic moment. probably spent those previous 5 years trying to track down his victim and apologize. a real humanitarian at this point I'm sure.

How many people do you know who apologize to someone for... well anything after five years?

I know, they usually apologize immediately. if not immediately a day after they got to think about their actions. the people I know don't usually need a fortuitous random encounter and significant lubrication through alcohol to seek out forgiveness for their transgressions.


Jesus man what is your problem? Guy screws up, feels bad, apologizes, and you've somehow got him pegged somewhere between Ted Bundy and Hitler. Chill the F out.
2012-07-09 03:23:02 PM  
1 votes:

Source4leko: uttertosh: At highschool, I was THE outsider. Not even the 'nerds' would talk to me, for fear of becoming a target. I've been hospitalised more times than I care to divulge.

My Bully Revenge Successes To Date: (with description of bullying)

1: The guy who made everyone believe I was gay - I ended his marriage by getting a shemale friend to get him drunk spike his drink, have sex with him, and record it. I emailed a link of the video to all of his wife's friends.

2: The girl who made sure that all prospective love interests of mine considered me creepy by lying about how I was a 'pervert' - I became her boss in an office I worked in and let the rumour slip that she had infected dozens of men with *insert lengthy list of STD's*

3: The gang of guys who beat the crap out of me, "jus' fur" - I stole a dealers stash of coke, 'hid' it in the bush of their leader's garden, and sat back and watched as a bunch of them went out, 'treating' everyone they knew to copious amounts of it, and anon-called the dealer, telling him to get to the bar fast, as there was a bunch of guys bragging about how the 'found' tons of coke hidden in a bush. Pitbull/baseballbat-larity ensued.

4: The guy who would spray "Fart Gas" on my clothes in the changing rooms of Gym class, then told everyone I stank of shiat (every Gym class for 4 years) - at 4am, I snuck into a house party that everyone was already unconscious from excessive drinking, (held whilst his parents were out of town) and pissed into his mother's steam iron, put a fish under the mattress of his parents bed, poured a 30yo bottle of single malt into a plastic bottle (and enjoyed later) and replaced it with cold tea, the same with a bottle of vodak, but replaced it with water, and poured the vodak over the 'good' sofa in his mothers 'best' living room. Another fish was placed in the toaster, and another behind the heating element in the main hall way.

There's more, But I'm too shaky to continue right now.

If you ever wind up near ...


like what? making up bullshiat stories?
2012-07-09 03:22:11 PM  
1 votes:

Source4leko: I think we'd have a lot in common.




You both tell tall tales about revenge?
2012-07-09 03:04:52 PM  
1 votes:

Acharne: relcec: "So even though there had to be two dozen other guys in my class that had done the same thing"

No, that is part of the context of his story. Without that, the fact the guy didn't appear to appreciate the apology years later is less meaningful.

Listen. Bullying sucks. Bully's suck. McBatt made a mistake and was willing to own up to that here. Give him some credit. It sucks he hit the guy, but he clearly know it was wrong. You guys appear to be dogpiling him based on your own insecurities and bitterness. It's pretty farking sad.


I'll say this, the guy did remember him. Even if he says he didn't. It's the best ammo someone was bullied can have when they next meet the bullier... "Who are you again?"
2012-07-09 02:55:04 PM  
1 votes:
If it is that big of a deal to him why even go to the reunion? He should have jsut gone off to college made milions banged hot chicks and rubbed it in the bullies faces.

I was bullied but not religiously. The worst was this guy that picked on me in the locker room in gym. He said he was going to kill me and burn my house down. I didnt know his name at the time but I knew he was a junior like my brother. So I told my brother and he was pissed. He got out his yearbook from the previous year and told me to point the guy out. I did and it turns out my brother knew him. He was apparently a bully that got his ass whipped a lot. I dunno what my brother did to him but the next time I saw him he was scared shiatless and couldnt apologize enough to me.

I was just lucky I never got picked on by this one guy. He took bullying to the extreme. He would find out if one of your parents was dead or divorced, if you had a disese or anything he could use. He would then just taunt his victim without any mercy. It was pretty farked up.
2012-07-09 02:28:28 PM  
1 votes:

relcec: "So even though there had to be two dozen other guys in my class that had done the same thing"


No, that is part of the context of his story. Without that, the fact the guy didn't appear to appreciate the apology years later is less meaningful.

Listen. Bullying sucks. Bully's suck. McBatt made a mistake and was willing to own up to that here. Give him some credit. It sucks he hit the guy, but he clearly know it was wrong. You guys appear to be dogpiling him based on your own insecurities and bitterness. It's pretty farking sad.
2012-07-09 02:27:30 PM  
1 votes:
My CSB:

When I went through junior high school, I endured all the same hell as everyone else. Hormones are ramping up, you start to view girls differently, and social strata are getting sorted out. There were a couple guys who used to be a pain in the ass to me; I vaguely remember one, and the other I recall all too well. You know, I never even knew his real name. Everyone just called him "Peanut". He started verbally abusing me every day as I walked home, and for no discernible reason. One day, he just started beating on me. I wasn't skilled in any sort of fighting, so I went home black and blue. About a month later, he tried it again and went to kick me. I grabbed his foot at full length extension, and forced him to hop on one foot to the edge of a drainage ravine, where I tossed him ass-over-teakettle. Some time later, some friends and I had stopped near the same spot to pick some blackberries. The guy came up to me, started talking shiat, and I smashed a handful of berries into his shirt. He screamed "YOU ASSHOLE! THAT WAS MY FAVORITE SHIRT!" and proceeded to beat the crap out of me, though I was laughing the whole time.

I didn't see him much after that, but several months later, he approached me as I was walking down the street. I began to tremble inside, but he apologized for what he'd put me through, and stuck out his hand, which I shook, and I told him I forgave him. That made me feel a lot better about things, and I was able to put it behind me.

In high school, I never had to endure the kind of enduring, unrelenting torment that a lot of people talk about, but I found that a lot of people would verbally abuse me for my performance in shop class, or PE, or other things, which just crushed me. I soon came to realize that, although their emotional abuse wasn't warranted, the reason was because I was doing things I wasn't particularly good at, which gave them an opening (but hey, the whole point is to find out what you are good at and enjoy, right?) In any event, a co-worker and fellow student told me I'd be really good in Drama, so I gave it a shot, and just shined. I loved it. I was good at it, and it gave me a lot of confidence that must have been evident, because I began to get along well with everyone; it was the whole Ferris Beuller clan: the sportos, geeks, motorheads, stoners, dweebs... People would call out my name in the hallways and I didn't even know them. It was weird.

But throughout all this, there was Chuck. Goddamn Caveman Chuck. Chuck was that big brute from the Calvin & Hobbes comics. Completely stupid, but with enough mass to ruin your whole damned day. Every day it was something: a shove into a wall or locker, he'd chuck milk cartons at my head, and if those weren't available, he'd just rabbit-punch me. This went on nearly daily for a year. He was huge, so I never did directly challenge him physically, for fear of winding up in the ICU. My confidence wasn't that high. So I just endured.

Flash-forward several years, and I'm working for a child-care facility. One of the best days ever was when Chuck brought his kid in for me to take care of. Chuck didn't even recognize me, but I did him. I ended up teaching that kid a lot that his dad had apparently missed out on, like non-violent conflict resolution, self-worth, peer pressure (and yes, I know exactly where Farkers are going to run with this, so run to hell). It was a totally good resolution to my own bad memories, and I'd like to think some good came of it.

Oh, and I went to my 20th HS reunion. The worst thing that happened was a woman looked at the yearbook, then at me, and said "wow, you used to be cute!"

/end CSB
/sorry for wall-o-text
2012-07-09 02:21:11 PM  
1 votes:

JungleBoogie: I know a guy who became a vice president of a giant conglomerate, to get back at the bullies. Seriously.


He became a bank teller at BoA to get back bullies?

Am I the first to point out that Herbert Kornfeld appears to be going bald?
2012-07-09 02:09:44 PM  
1 votes:
A few people made life hell for me during junior high and my first 2 years of high school because I was really ugly (my nose was broken while playing softball at age 11). One sadistic asshole got his kicks by humiliating me in front of the class every chance he got (and I had the misfortune of having him in several classes over the years).

I had my nose fixed just before the end of junior year of high school, and was chosen to be the yearbook editor-in-chief for the following year. I learned how to use a 35mm camera at yearbook camp that summer. Somehow, some VERY unflattering pics of my tormentors ended up in said yearbook. :)

Revenge is sweet (and preserved for posterity).

/no regrets
2012-07-09 01:53:08 PM  
1 votes:
Misuse of Hero tag...this guy is a sociopath.
2012-07-09 12:02:00 PM  
1 votes:

uttertosh: MagSeven: I hope you made all this shiat up.
/except the last 2,

Nope.

To clarify, I have spent more than 50% of my life being tortured by other people my social "peers". Not just physical (which has given me a superbly high pain threshold and a complete indifference to being threatened with violence), but psychological and sociological torture, too (social bullying to the point that I still consider myself not to really have any friends)

My revenge on persons that have bullied me may seem extreme to you, but to me it's incredibly satisfying to see persons (that I had no understanding of why they should torture me so - I was soft spoken, well mannered and a pacifist), being just as confused as to why someone would fu(k with their life in such a horribly demeaning way.

To all of you saying "The best revenge is just to live your life and succeed at it; put it all behind you" I tried that, but the nightmares persisted. The daily routine for me was delving into a downward spiral of self hatred and pathetic self-harm.

I made the active choice to get revenge. Despite what the movies tell y'all, I let you know now, getting back at those who damage your soul is simply wonderful.

I, consequently, now don't have nightmares, nor do I indulge in that downward-spiral of depression and self-harm. I am not bitter, nor twisted regarding my previous abuse, and live a strong and successful life. In fact, I use the memories of my revenge to cheer me up whenever I feel sad. I got the closure that the guy in TFA will never have.

Confront your bullies peacefully, in order to get them to feel a short lived touch of guilt, and apologise? No, that's for real pussies.

I also reject the premise of "If you do it, you are no better than they are" - I am human, and regard myself as no better than any other human - "treat others as you would expect to be treated yourself" Fine, done.

Bide your time, gather information, then manipulate your bully into feeling exactly the same way they mad ...


i call BS
2012-07-09 11:40:32 AM  
1 votes:

McBatt: When I was 16, I remember being pissed off about something, so I beat a kid up. He was kinda the school punching bag already, and he wasn't helping matters - that particular day, he was bragging that he was wearing a cup, so no one could hurt him. he was actually telling people to kick him in the balls. So instead I went for his stomach, and caught him in the jaw as he crumbled forward, knocking him off his feet backwards. He was already crying before he go up, and just kept asking why I'd hit him, which I had no answer for, really. I later found out it was his 18th birthday.

So even though there had to be two dozen other guys in my class that had done the same thing, the whole thing bothered me for years. I eventually ran into him at a bar 5 years after graduation on one of my rar visits back to that part of the world, and was drunk enough to issue like a 20 minute apology. He had been beaten up so many times that he apparently genuinely didn't remember the particular time I was apologizing for, but seemed to appreciate it.


Wow. What a farking prince you are. You sucker punch a guy, make some insincere, drunk, slobbery apology five years later, and now you feel exonerated?

You, you farking mope, are a jackass. You deserve to regret that moment for fifty years, not five.
2012-07-09 11:32:32 AM  
1 votes:

AverageAmericanGuy: That's pretty sad. 20 years is a long time to hold on to that kind of anger.


One of my favorites has always been, "Holding a grudge is like taking poison, and waiting for the other guy to get sick."

Move on. Forgiveness of others is a gift to yourself.
2012-07-09 11:15:17 AM  
1 votes:

Peter_Veal: I think the major negative was the feeling of alone. It was always the promise of salvation from people who'd say they'd help you out. "They'll never mess with you with me around." And that was true. But those people that had your back were just never there.


QFT. If there's one sad fact I learned from 7+ years of being bullied, it's that you're really on your own. No one is coming to your rescue but you. Trust in others takes as big of a hit as self-confidence, and to this day I still have issues with both.

Lots of people gave me well-meaning advice ("just ignore them & they'll go away" or "just turn the other cheek like Jesus" or "you only have a couple more years of school before they [the bullies] graduate, so just grit your teeth until they leave"...) Too bad all this advice was completely, utterly f*cking useless - and betrayed the advice givers' own passive cowardice. My one regret is that I never gave myself permission to fight back; I might have spared myself the worst of the physical abuse.

I had a chance encounter with the head bully/pack leader years later; she was just as much of a sociopath as ever. I suspect she saw no reason to change her personality because obviously whatever she was doing/however she was acting was still working for her. Sometimes the bad guys get away and there is no karmic biatchslap for them in this lifetime. OTOH, the whole experience taught me that I *did* need to change; I moved away from the victim mentality & am happy to say I'm no longer a doormat.

Telling a former victim of bullying to just "get over it" is kind of like telling a burn victim to just grow new skin - it depends a lot on the extent of the injuries.
2012-07-09 11:12:36 AM  
1 votes:

MadCat221: AverageAmericanGuy: That's pretty sad. 20 years is a long time to hold on to that kind of anger.

I take it you weren't a chronic bullying victim in the awkward years?


I was bullied in high-school. Especially the first half of it but things started getting better when I learned not to react to it. Once I could laugh off the stupid pranks, I gained friends, and people messed with me less.

I'm not excusing bullying by any means and I definitely think we need to change our education system to eradicate it. At the same time a lot of victims continue to be victimized because they lash out which encourages more bullying.

As for me my "revenge" is in knowing that most of the bullies that gave me trouble still live in the small town I grew up in. They are there trying to make a living from a ever shrinking pool of hourly-wage jobs and I've moved on in the last 15 years to develop a highly paid career in programming and now into IT management. It isn't like I look at that and laugh, either. Most of the time I don't give those people a second thought. When I do, I think it's sad because that person's best days are behind them, and they'll likely never move on to something better. It's interesting how often the bully is often a victim themselves and bullying other in school is the one time they can feel in control of their own lives.

The guy in this article has chosen to live in the past and in doing so he's continued to be a victim. He needs as much help as the bully needs punishment.
2012-07-09 11:06:01 AM  
1 votes:

Gosling: There was this back room in the special-ed 'classroom' where they'd stick anyone they didn't feel like dealing with. They'd stick you in there, lock the door and just leave you there for however long they felt like. If they didn't like you you reacted to this, they'd remove all the furniture from the room and leave you in what was now a blank box of a room, again locking the door. The kids in there tended not to react well at this. Often the kid would burst out in tears. Me included. This was the cue to occasionally have three different special-ed teachers burst back into the room and basically pin the kid to the ground until they stopped crying


When Ronald Reagan was governor of California, he destroyed the best school system in the United States and possibly the world. Instead of trying to help children with problems, they'd bus across town to a designated 'warehouse facility'. They would stuff the mentally handicapped, the physically handicapped, the antisocial, and of course, bullies from all over Los Angeles and Long Beach into two small classrooms.

I got sent there because I had hauled off and knocked a bully on his ass when he attempted to vandalize my family's home. His mother was a PTA chairwoman who abused her authority and used her connections to protect her precious snowflake. I spent two and a half years in a snake pit because of her and her son. There were physical and sexual assaults by both students and faculty. 90% of the time was spent just standing around. There was no real attempt to teach us students anything else except sit down and be quiet.

I came out of that experience with PTSD. Sometimes I have panic attacks when I see a school bus. And I religiously keep an eye on school reunion sites too.
2012-07-09 10:27:47 AM  
1 votes:
In sixth grade, I got it pretty bad. I was an awe-shucks, candy-ass suburbanite from Indiana who had just moved to New Jersey, and a real brainiac geek. Easy target.

But even while it was happening, I knew in the back of my head that it was a temporary thing. Because the next year, we'd ALL be the "new kid" in junior high. The whole tribal/social dynamic was going to change, and all I had to do was wait it out. Which I did. Meanwhile, I joined the football team and got a lot tougher, too. That, along with my natural ability to wisecrack, got me out of a lot of shiat. By seventh grade, everything was pretty much fine for me.

Good for me.

But some kids had NO LIGHT at the end of that tunnel. No hope at all. And what they endured was farking brutal. That's why I'm never the guy saying "hey, it happens to everyone, get over it!"

I know better.

/fark bullies
2012-07-09 10:09:17 AM  
1 votes:

JungleBoogie: I know a guy who became a vice president of a giant conglomerate, to get back at the bullies. Seriously.


VP isn't much of anything cool in a Giant Conglomerate. In banks (where i was one) it just means your an officer and can go to jail. YAY!

/didn't go to jail
2012-07-09 10:02:28 AM  
1 votes:
I got bullied more in middle school than high school. But damn, let it go. I haven't seen those guys in so many years, it took me a few minutes to remember the main guy's name.

If you're still holding that grudge they still have power over you. Let it go, you'll feel better.
2012-07-09 09:50:03 AM  
1 votes:
So much damned pain in this thread.

Get over it.
2012-07-09 09:49:14 AM  
1 votes:

ontariolightning: Everybody gets bullied. I've been bullied. The thing is you either stand up for yourself or you become someones biatch. That is life. It doesn't matter if you're wimpy looking or monstorous. Quit being a pussy and take care of your business.


You. One of the biggest trolls in the hockey threads, who can't rationally debate a point to save his life, talks about moving on and 'standing up for yourself'? That you blow a freaking gasket whenever someone mentions Greg Jamison? You? Seriously?
2012-07-09 09:48:53 AM  
1 votes:
I'm disappoint with the lack of references to holding down gay kids and hacking off their hair, then running for President of the United States.
2012-07-09 09:38:29 AM  
1 votes:

relcec: I know, they usually apologize immediately. if not immediately a day after they got to think about their actions. the people I know don't usually need a fortuitous random encounter and significant lubrication through alcohol to seek out forgiveness for their transgressions.


If the people who picked on me in HS came up to me after 20 years to ask forgiveness, I'd find it more awkward than anything else. Let's face it, if you're only coming to apologize after 20 years, it's not because you're worried about my feelings on the subject. You're doing it to make yourself feel better. Unless I bring it up, let bygones be bygones.
2012-07-09 09:37:36 AM  
1 votes:
YOU'RE DOING IT WRONG.


"Hero"? The guy mouthed off and got busted. I'm sure the class jerk is quaking in his boots. The way you get this kind of revenge is to play nice, act like all is forgiven, go to the reunion with a smile, slip some acid in the punch bowl and then sneak out once the crap starts hitting the fan.
2012-07-09 09:37:11 AM  
1 votes:

Corn_Fed: The fact that he wrote these attention-getting threats on the Facebook page so he "wouldn't get bullied at the reunion" suggests that he's never had any idea how to deal with situations, and probably brought a lot of the bullying on himself.

It's unfortunate that he was bullied, and it's never okay to bully someone. On the other hand, it's obvious this guy has more than a few screws loose.


Be that as it may, I don't care how big or tough you are, everybody has a breaking point.
2012-07-09 09:27:23 AM  
1 votes:
If mandatory prison sentences were applied to the parents of bullies, the problem would end quickly.
2012-07-09 09:26:06 AM  
1 votes:
As someone who also suffered from bullying I might say that committing a crime because someone bullied you when you both were children twenty years ago is inexcusable. At least the bullies had the excuse that they were immature children.
2012-07-09 09:25:48 AM  
1 votes:
I got picked on in high school some. Mostly cuz I was insanely quiet and a bit large. Two guys in particular picked on me. One day I had enough, and amazingly, bullies all seem to lack this one bit of universal knowledge: a big boy can put his weight into and shove you like a mack truck. One push, and a stunned looking up at me from the floor, and Jim never messed with me again. The other guy, well... I tapped into his phone line switchboard one night, dialed 900 #'s over and over from the back of a playboy and hung up (the kind that were like $30 min just for calling once). Apparently, it caused a huge fight with his mother and he ended up moving out andf going back to live with his father. Never saw him again.
2012-07-09 09:16:28 AM  
1 votes:

SnakeLee: I bullied the shiat out of this kid when I was younger and I feel pretty bad about it. Writing him on Facebook seems so corny though


It probably is, but it's probably the best way to go about it.
2012-07-09 09:16:11 AM  
1 votes:
Apologies while I enable CSB:

When I was in high school, it was almost impossible to fight the compelling urges that constantly urged me to kill... I tried to fit in as best as I could (I was adopted). Luckily, my adopted dad saw me for what I was: Broken and twisted inside. He taught me to assimilate into "normal society" so that my secret desires and needs went unrecognized by the 'Norms'. He took me on weekend hunting trips where he would allow me to deliver the killing blows to various animals such as deer and raccoons - and it helped to quench that bottomless pit of flame inside my empty soul - and it saved a lot of innocent people from my cold rage. Not even my own sister ever had a clue that I was a being with no emotions, whose only solace was found in taking life.

Irony of ironies, I ended up working in law enforcement (as did my sis)...every day is a challenge to control that part of me that looks upon every living being as a "thing" that's needs to be cleansed from the earth like a virus. I see myself as some kind of goddam living antiseptic with a blade and I wish I could be disgusted about it, but it's who I am, and I refuse to hate myself.

End CSB.
/fark bullies...they deserve anything they receive in punishment
2012-07-09 09:14:50 AM  
1 votes:

relcec: RexTalionis: relcec: there is no requirement society forgive a confirmed sociopath who gets pleasure from inflicting violence on the weak.

If the action bothered McBatt enough for 5 years and was enough to issue an apology, then I don't think he's a sociopath.

yeah, I know. he apologized five years later when he happened upon the victim in a bar. it obviously was eating away at him. mcbatt probably had trouble eating and sleeping until that cathartic moment. probably spent those previous 5 years trying to track down his victim and apologize. a real humanitarian at this point I'm sure.


I think it's pretty good that he did apologize rather than dwell on the hows and whys.
2012-07-09 09:07:10 AM  
1 votes:

MattyFridays: Something that is missing from a lot of this bullying talk is that did you ever think that some people who were shunned and belittled in high school were actually people who were deserving of it?

I'm sorry, if you post talk of Columbine and seeking "revenge" - 20 years after the fact - then that makes you just as bad as the perceived bullying you got.

Some people get bullied for the wrong reasons - being gay, being fat, being ugly. Other people are just wired wrong and even if you're nice to them they are still wired wrong.




Some people are perpetual "victims" because they're just not very pleasant to be around, or so socially awkward they make people very uncomfortable, and so all people naturally treat them with disdain or indifference.

I suspect that all the white knights here do exactly the same thing to all sorts of people, but just don't realise it. The whole "the head cheerleader treated me like dirt and made my high school hell!" is usually more the fact that the head cheerleader didn't even know you existed, but people read that as some personal vendetta against them.
2012-07-09 09:05:55 AM  
1 votes:
That seemed kinda vague as a threat, what did they arrest the guy on?
2012-07-09 09:01:10 AM  
1 votes:

Lernaeus: Look, I don't like bullies, either, but if you didn't deal with them then (by delivering their violence back on them two-fold), or just GTF over it like a rational adult, you're not going to feel better by seeking "vengeance" 20 years later.


The problem with trauma like this is that you're not a "rational adult". It farks you in the head. It changes your thinking of yourself, the world, and your place in it. It's not a case of "GTF over it". It takes time, and a lot of work.


PC LOAD LETTER: If you can't get over it after 20 years, please seek professional psychological help.


I agree with this. The problem is, how do you get help? There aren't a lot of ways to get the help you need. I'm assuming that his anxiety/depression result in him not being able to work, or working a low-end job, so benefits are out of the question. I doubt he has much money to pay out of his own pocket. So how exactly does he go about getting the help he needs?

As much as we have medical care for everyone (I'm talking about the civilized world here, although the US is catching up on that front), we still have a disturbing lack of support for mental issues. They can be just as limiting, and perhaps more debilitating than physical injuries, yet for the most part we don't give people the help they need.
2012-07-09 08:55:35 AM  
1 votes:

Forbidden Doughnut: dv-ous: MadCat221: AverageAmericanGuy: That's pretty sad. 20 years is a long time to hold on to that kind of anger.

I take it you weren't a chronic bullying victim in the awkward years?

I was.

I don't even remember the names of the people involved, and it's only been 13 years.

Living well is the best revenge. Not because you get to rub anybody's nose in it, but because, well, you stop giving a shiat. There's other stuff to do.

If I thought of High School as my "glory years" well, that'd be something else. I'd probably feel bitter about somebody who "ruined" them. But I feel pretty sorry for anybody who peaked in HS.

This bears repeating.jpeg

For me, HS was over 20 years ago; not only have I forgotten the names of people that did me wrong, I've also forgotten some people I actually liked...

/ I sound old


It stopped mattering to you, because there was something to take its place. It didn't stop mattering to either one of you because you were that much stronger. You both filled your cups with something else. in your own example, the people you'd forgotten that you actually liked weren't people you really liked. They were people who didn't negatively impact your day.................but they didn't really make a deep impression on your life. They were acquaintances, faceless back then in spite of seeing them every day, and faceless right now.

They might as well have been co-workers (which is why I always feel badly about folks who treat their jobs and their co-workers as family. How many people remember anyone at their jobs who doesn't immediately represent a means to networking to somewhere else? if you don't represent something to someone else, you are forgotten........ which is why it's a big deal when someone like a Patton remembers everyone's name. It just does not happen in real life. It can't).

But those people and incidents which did matter to you, you do remember. That also just happens in life. Again, it's not because you are stronger or better able to deal with shiat. The shiat didn't matter to you in the first place. Or you replaced those incidents and people in your head, with other incidents and people in your head.

It's the one thing I like about the failed 'It Gets Better' movement. (Failed because of so many suicides reported after the fact.) It's supposed to get better because the cup is always able to be refilled with something else. But if you don't give people to tools to refill that cup.. you know what I mean? you can't tell someone to put the cup down when there is nothing to refill the cup with. That's bullshiat, and a cruelty all by itself.
2012-07-09 08:54:33 AM  
1 votes:

relcec: there is no requirement society forgive a confirmed sociopath who gets pleasure from inflicting violence on the weak.


If the action bothered McBatt enough for 5 years and was enough to issue an apology, then I don't think he's a sociopath.
2012-07-09 08:53:25 AM  
1 votes:
ww2.hdnux.com

I wonder which was worst, getting called Jughead, Dumbo or fivehead. Nice pencil neck too. He probably had people handing him feathers all the time or grabbing his ears. I wonder if he smoked so much that he's given himself some kind of COPD and then blames that on the tobacco companies. Interstate transmission of a threat is a federal felony and his California classmates can have him prosecuted for making a "terrorist threat" also a felony. If he didn't care for highschool he's really not going to like PMITA prison.
2012-07-09 08:53:19 AM  
1 votes:

BurnShrike: kisseswookies: I was. I can still say though that a lot of us grew the fark up. Kids are assholes at that age. I got pushed around, got called names, and had the entire contents of my backpack emptied on more than one occasion. I see those kids every once and a while. Some are successful, some are not. But the thing is: I'm not a scared 16 year old nerd anymore. No more than they are jock assholes. We're grownups now. Time to move on from petty labels like that, because its a sad person that dwells on it.

Wow. Your backpack was emptied. That must've been really traumatic for you. I'm so glad you were able to get over such abuse and it didn't ruin your life. I'm sure it took a great deal of time and therapy to put that behind you.


Upper -middle class suburban oppression, life is hard at 16. Not so much at 26.

/could it be? Did I not post the entirety of my bullied past in a thread? Naw, I must have had it easy.
2012-07-09 08:52:26 AM  
1 votes:

radiovox: Oh boo farking hoo! Grow the fark up and move on with your life. You weren't the first and certainly won't the last kid to be picked on in high school. For someone to carry that much of a grudge for 20 years and then post that kind of message on Facebook has serious mental issues. And no, it's not as a result of being picked on. This guy is just a nut case.


I'm glad you were able to make a proper psychiatric diagnosis from the few sentences in the article. Where did you go to medical school again?

And by the way, most (not all) but most of the kids who get picked on are usually the little assholes who talk shiat and are the most annoying little fark sticks in the school. There's a reason no one every stood up for this guy and it's most likely because he was one of those unbearable socially retarded asswipes who everyone hated.

Yeah, and everyone knows the reasonable treatment for annoying assholes is to beat the fark out of them and taunt them daily until they learn their lesson and fall in line with everyone else.
2012-07-09 08:46:00 AM  
1 votes:

Forbidden Doughnut: Public Savant: What the hell is wrong with the american schools and high schools?!

I haven't experienced anything as severe as what is being described in this thread.
Sure I've been picked on a bit and so has every one else, but the levels of physical violence described here seems quite harsh compared to danish standards.

WTF are you guys doing wrong?

I never experienced anything worse than name-calling in HS, but as for the violence that some people have suffered, I have no explanation other than acknowledging that the USA has a lot of farked-up people.

/ many of us are descended from Europe's cast-offs
// ...I wonder why Australia isn't as screwed up as the US is ( at least when it comes to bullying)


The European "cast-offs" in the United States were often religious fanatics. The "cast-offs" in Australia were merely criminals.
2012-07-09 08:45:12 AM  
1 votes:
Oh boo farking hoo! Grow the fark up and move on with your life. You weren't the first and certainly won't the last kid to be picked on in high school. For someone to carry that much of a grudge for 20 years and then post that kind of message on Facebook has serious mental issues. And no, it's not as a result of being picked on. This guy is just a nut case.

And by the way, most (not all) but most of the kids who get picked on are usually the little assholes who talk shiat and are the most annoying little fark sticks in the school. There's a reason no one every stood up for this guy and it's most likely because he was one of those unbearable socially retarded asswipes who everyone hated.
2012-07-09 08:45:01 AM  
1 votes:
I was bullied, even by some of my "friends". It was horrible and scarred me for quite some time after that, and I was an angry, depressed man in my 20s. But a few things helped

1) Working out at the gym. Yes, self-esteem does help.
2) Choosing better friends
3) Seeing what happened to the bullies after 20 years. One is a close friend of mine now. Completely changed and a wonderful person. Most others are either crazy, losers or irrelevant. Or just normal. 20 years is a hell of a long time. I changed, they changed. Fresh starts and all.

If you can't get over it after 20 years, please seek professional psychological help.
2012-07-09 08:38:46 AM  
1 votes:
What is his Fark handle?
2012-07-09 08:23:36 AM  
1 votes:
^ I should add that I would never threaten the people who did things to me now. I'm sure some don't realize how horrible it was for me, and others probably aren;t proud of it. It's over now, and life isn't about revenge. Hopefully they teach their kids how to be nicer than they were.
2012-07-09 08:20:39 AM  
1 votes:

Gosling: It doesn't matter whether the bully remembers, pbjrfym. What matters is that the bullied person remembers.

Let's put it this way. The Philippines still remembers all the stuff the United States did to them in a side battle of the Spanish-American War. Iran still remembers the whole Shah overthrow. Central America still remembers a guy named William Walker from Tennessee who tried to take over the whole region.

Does the average American remember any of that? Hell no. Doesn't mean it doesn't still have an effect.


That's actually a pretty epic set of examples.
2012-07-09 08:19:47 AM  
1 votes:
I was bullied in junior high. Badly. death threats, pushed on the stairs, people threatened to bomb my house(I didn't know if they had the resources or not)kicked, shoved, had rocks thrown at me (that only happened once) called ugly, hideous, a monster,made to feel like a freak and an outcast on every possible occasion. I was bullied in some way or other by many, many people, although most didn't do much, there were about a dozen that did these things. For 3 years. By the end of the first year I stopped wanting them to accept me, and started wanting them to stop trying to hurt me. if it had just been taunts I'd have been okay, but I was literally in terror for my life. Worse I had a toddler brother and was worried he might get hurt if they did something to the house.I developed a horrible anxiety disorder later and suffered from crippling panic attacks. I only got through that by taking a job where I don't have to deal with very many people.
2012-07-09 07:41:19 AM  
1 votes:
thumbnails.hulu.com

*sigh* Do I have to do everything around here?
2012-07-09 06:53:18 AM  
1 votes:
in addition to the 'funny' and 'smart' tags, can we have a 'troll' button? And some kind of algorithm to weed them out a bit? Related to time since registration and ratio of posts to complaints, maybe? It could at least weed out some alts.
2012-07-09 06:07:07 AM  
1 votes:
I got picked on in school one time only. A kid two years older and a lot bigger than me took my glasses, body slammed me into a fence and then tried to feel me up. He didn't realize my older brother was nearby. My brother destroyed the kid, blood everywhere. No one ever picked on me again.

I was short, chubby, wore glasses and got straight As. If it wasn't for my big brother I would have probably been picked on all through school.
2012-07-09 06:06:04 AM  
1 votes:

Trapper439: Yeah, into the ignore bin you go, the lord god


I did the same even sooner as he sayed he didn't regret having been a bully.
2012-07-09 05:46:29 AM  
1 votes:

Public Savant: What the hell is wrong with the american schools and high schools?!

I haven't experienced anything as severe as what is being described in this thread.
Sure I've been picked on a bit and so has every one else, but the levels of physical violence described here seems quite harsh compared to danish standards.

WTF are you guys doing wrong?


The difference between "the amount of shiat every kid goes through" and "the bullying that kids can go through at worst" is fairly substantial no matter where you go to school.
2012-07-09 05:40:41 AM  
1 votes:

shower_in_my_socks: miss diminutive: Apparently a guy she liked (who was dumber than a bag of hammers but was one of those people who looked 25 at the age of 16) made an offhand comment that he thought I was cute so she decided to try and ruin my life. We had a good laugh about it but I remember that as she walked away I had this mental image of slamming her head into a brick wall.

Example number 5,159,039,209,567,320,001 of how farking awful women are to each other over even the pettiest bullshiat.


I think both boys and girls can be unbelievably cruel to one another at that age, just in a different way. I was never subjected to physical attacks or excessive taunting. I can't imagine what boys had to go through, always looking over their shoulder, never sure where the next attack would come from. It's a type of stress that I simply wouldn't be able to handle.

While you're right that girls can be excessively awful and downright sadistic we also have the advantage of banding together. Even through the worst of my "bullying" I at least had several friends who were there to offer support, advice or simply to commiserate. I think boys (at least the ones who were targets of bullies in my school days) were almost always loners and had to fend for themselves. Which is probably why they became targets in the first place.
2012-07-09 05:25:35 AM  
1 votes:
I remember in school a big asswipe used to pick on this little scrwny kid. Every day he'd toruture him. One day outside the school gate the bully tried to start a fight and went into his "judo" stance and all the moves. The "victim" picked up a rock and knocked his ass out. The bully never came back to school. Not sure what happened to him. Of course, that was Kansas in the 70's. Probably would go to jail for that shiat now.

End of CSB
2012-07-09 05:13:08 AM  
1 votes:

the lord god: Everyone has problems all throughout life. Everyone must deal with a bully/bullies at some point.


Yeah, everybody has problems throughout their lives, but not so many have people who spend all their free time trying to make you miserable. You simply don't know what you're talking about.
2012-07-09 05:09:56 AM  
1 votes:

the lord god: Uncle Tractor: ontariolightning: Everybody gets bullied.

I wish people would stop saying dumbshiat like that. No, everybody does not get bullied, and people who say so have no idea what they're talking about.

But it is true.


No, it's not.
2012-07-09 05:09:01 AM  
1 votes:

Uncle Tractor: shower_in_my_socks: Unfortunately, the dude's totally clueless about how to interact with people. There were kids in school who were bullied for no damn reason, and then there were kids who were targeted because they were awkward oddballs who just didn't know how to socialize and get along with other folks.

The funny thing about bullying is that it can easily make you socially awkward. Partially by undermining your self-confidence, and partially by preventing you from learning the basics of social interaction.


like the internet?
2012-07-09 04:46:47 AM  
1 votes:

Bathia_Mapes: Instead I've put it behind me. I don't dwell endlessly on what was done to me, and have, in fact, purposely forgotten the names of those who bullied me. I have never attended a high school reunion in the 42 years since i've graduated, nor do I ever plan to do so.


The first bolded part does not match the second bolded part.
2012-07-09 04:39:39 AM  
1 votes:

hbk72777: My advice to anybody still in school, kick the shiat out of your nemesis. Don't even wait for them to start with you again, Monday morning, just deck em. It'll be one of the best things you do in your formative years.



CSB: I was bullied a bit in junior high. I remember in PE a kid for whatever reason decided to target me during basketball. Kept shoving me and throwing elbows and talking shiat to look like a tough guy. Thing is, we were the same size. So when we headed into the locker room, I walked up to him and shoved him all the way down the farking aisle. He charged me and I put him in a headlock and started beating on him until a bigger kid broke it up. He was pissed as hell but he never did a thing to me after that day.

Don't wait for the next time they try to push your buttons. Just walk up to them in the hall and go full psycho on them with no warning. The more witnesses the better. 50/50 odds you'll win because you'll be stiking first, and if you don't, it'll probably be more of a draw and get broken up before it goes too far. It'll be the best suspension you ever got.
2012-07-09 04:32:15 AM  
1 votes:

Lionel Mandrake: That's a long damn time to hold a grudge.


When every wretched, miserable post-HS day reminds you of the Living Hell you suffered, the hunger for Justice never goes away.

38 and already balding and wearing an oxygen hose. These bullies must have been absolutely devastating!
2012-07-09 04:31:57 AM  
1 votes:

hbk72777: I was always much bigger than the kids that picked on me. They never got physical, I guess they knew better. I could've squashed any of them like a bug. But I fell for the stupid ass, non existent, "permanent record" bullshiat. I never wanted to get in trouble, because my life would be ruined by having a black mark in this so called chart. Now, 17 years after high school, I realize, no one gives a fark about whether you were suspended for a week, had detention,or whatever. My advice to anybody still in school, kick the shiat out of your nemesis. Don't even wait for them to start with you again, Monday morning, just deck em. It'll be one of the best things you do in your formative years.


Listen to this guy
wise words
2012-07-09 04:30:58 AM  
1 votes:

The Shatner Incident: If you've ever bullied anyone in your life and not feel one modicum of guilt, fark you in the ear. You're not a tough person, you're a psychopath. You are maggot shiat of the lowest order and I honestly hope you contract something painful and debilitating. If your kid is a bully and you don't do anything to stop them, I hope your kid gets mauled and eaten by a bear.


Much anger do I sense in this post. Anger leads to hate. Hate leads to suffering. Say as much, Captain Kirk, did not?
2012-07-09 04:28:08 AM  
1 votes:
I feel like I missed out on a chapter in life, I never had a bully.

Everyone in my HS knew me, they said hey when they passed me in the halls but I only associated with a select group. I was very quiet and standoffish but I listened to everything going on around me, if I started to smile people wondered what was ticking inside my head. And while I didn't have the appearance of the trench coat mafia nonsense people still thought I was going to shoot up the school, I think that's why I had so many "friends" muahahaaah.
2012-07-09 04:27:41 AM  
1 votes:
I should have been bullied, but my sister, one year behind me, was smokin' hot. It's amazing what the hopeful dreams for pussy will do to weaken the resolve of a bully.
2012-07-09 04:20:29 AM  
1 votes:

DrWhy: Sad, sad, situation. No winners here


no, I think the bullies won here.

They had the police do the bullying for them!
This is how it works.
2012-07-09 04:19:37 AM  
1 votes:

the lord god: violentsalvation: Have you ever considered moving on with your life? Dork.

You are asking that on this site?

Please,most of the people here are that guy.

Not me though. I taunted and beat kids like him. And have no regrets.


The funny thing is, it's better to regret the things you have done than regret the things you haven't done.
2012-07-09 04:16:09 AM  
1 votes:
I was bullied on a near daily basis throughout high school. Not once did it ever occur to me to seek revenge, then or now, on my tormenters. And I had very easy access to any number of hunting rifles back when I still was in school since nearly every man & boy in my neighborhood hunted and it was rare that people locked their garages, or even had locks on their garages. It was a more trusting time back then.

Instead I've put it behind me. I don't dwell endlessly on what was done to me, and have, in fact, purposely forgotten the names of those who bullied me. I have never attended a high school reunion in the 42 years since i've graduated, nor do I ever plan to do so.
2012-07-09 04:07:00 AM  
1 votes:

Trapper439: I just feel sorry for the kids who are bullied these days. Back when I was in high school I was bullied, but at least once I got home I was safe. That was before the internet, though. Nowadays the victim gets home and goes online and the bullying continues. That would suck so farking much.


It can suck yes.

But between email blocking, Facebook defriending and privacy settings, and reporting posts and such to school administrators (using a school run Moodle setup to harass another student is, sadly, not the dumbest thing I've seen a teenager do) etc., a cyber-bullied kid has a LOT more control over what they see online than they do over what happens at school.

And if you know how to do all that, you're also qualified to teach a computer class.

As far as what people say about you behind your back, well, you don't have any more control over that online than you do IRL.
2012-07-09 04:00:45 AM  
1 votes:

Danger Avoid Death: Genevieve Marie: Trapper439: I just feel sorry for the kids who are bullied these days. Back when I was in high school I was bullied, but at least once I got home I was safe. That was before the internet, though. Nowadays the victim gets home and goes online and the bullying continues. That would suck so farking much.

It really would. It was just starting when I was in high school, and it sucked then. I can't even imagine how bad it would be now. Back then, it was mostly just people getting other people to admit secrets on AOL instant messenger and then printing up the chats and showing them to everyone else. I also remember a girl I know leaving her hotmail account open on a library computer- and someone printed up all the emails she and her boyfriend had exchanged about their awkward high school sexual encounters and posted them up on lockers.

Early cyber bullying, we had it.

In my day we had to bully by telegraph. Or pony express.


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2012-07-09 04:00:41 AM  
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Ok, in case anyone else is interested- it's well worth reading about what really happened at Columbine. It had jack shiat to do with bullying. Dave Cullen's book is phenomenal, and it elaborates on all the points made in his earlier piece about it, The Depressive and the Psychopath.
2012-07-09 03:57:16 AM  
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Fatebook is dangerous.
2012-07-09 03:46:42 AM  
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Cookbook's Anarchist: Attention! All victims of child abuse and rape, you no longer have the right to claim that it affects you after twenty years. Basically, stuff happens and you should get over it. If you were mentally tortured and abused by people your own age during the most formative years of your life, then you have no right to act as if that affected every other relationships and incident of your life.

People have no right to hold grudges, no matter the level of abuse.

Or at least, this is what I'm left to believe from this bullying thread.


Since the article is light on specifics, one has to assume it was the same as the bullying and hazing 99% of us nerds went through.

Dude doesn't help his case by talking about "start[ing] the Columbine shootings early." He's a drama queen who clearly didn't feel scarred enough to seek professional help.

I'm sorry if your experiences in high school actually qualified as torture. As opposed to, you know, a reminder that most people are assholes.
2012-07-09 03:36:50 AM  
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Dude could have resolved it in therapy or with drugs or both. While I believe there is Get Over It Pussy bullying (shoving in halls, name calling, spitballs, etc) and Real Bullying (constant torment, daily beatings, etc), none of it really warrants throwing your own life away for. What is the best revenge, but a happy, successful life? Not getting better is letting the bullies win and proving them right.
2012-07-09 03:35:27 AM  
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GreenSun: It's normal to hold grudges like this one if something really affected you very badly due to someone's or a group's abuse. Imagine being bullied everyday and you couldn't do a thing. Why can't you do a thing? You're alone. They're more powerful than you. They have connections in almost every place you go to. The moment you fight back, they just bully you more. Nobody would help you because they fear of becoming the next target. For some god damn reason your life became one of that a living target, and worst of all, you never even did anything wrong to them except to have been born.

I don't think anyone who doesn't think of revenge or feel anger after being treated so horribly for so many years is a normal person. You feel anger because they hurt you for no other reason than to have someone to hurt. You want revenge because you never did anything wrong to them, yet they always have done bad stuff to you just for fun.

You probably must be some kind of holy person if you could ignore all of the crap that they've done to you and let it all just slide. I guess some people use morals as an excuse to not admit that they feel angry or they want revenge. They want to think that they are "better than them" for not acting upon what they truly think about. Unfortunately, they are lying to themselves, and using morals as their limiter is just another facet of their lack of self-respect and dignity.

This man has pride despite being beaten down repeatedly. Although he can't really do anything, he still has that fighting spirit. He can't physically do anything to his bullies, but his last act of defiance, his last sign that he is still a human being, is that he still has the will to fight back. Once that will is gone, then he truly is a defeated man. This guy has a strong spirit.


6/10. You're no Pocketninja.
2012-07-09 03:33:12 AM  
1 votes:
Sissy dude looks ROUGH for 38!
2012-07-09 03:30:16 AM  
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This is pretty sad trolling.
2012-07-09 03:28:52 AM  
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I bullied the shiat out of this kid when I was younger and I feel pretty bad about it. Writing him on Facebook seems so corny though
2012-07-09 03:25:12 AM  
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Also, you either die or you live long enough to see yourself become the villian -
Walter White.. I mean Joker said that
2012-07-09 03:24:18 AM  
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first thing i thought of.

cdn.chud.com
2012-07-09 03:24:10 AM  
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yeah what would the sons of anarchy do?
2012-07-09 02:16:57 AM  
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Also yeah, -1. Or maybe subby sticks the hero tag on all wannabe mass murderers. Subby is a dork too. HA HA.
2012-07-09 01:36:40 AM  
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I wonder why he's on oxygen at 38 yrs old.
 
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