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(Salon)   Kid who gave a speech at CPAC writes an op-ed about no longer being a Republican. "These are scorned right-wingers showing all the maturity of a little boy. No wonder I fit in so well when I was 13"   (salon.com) divider line 274
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2012-07-09 02:13:30 PM  

Ambivalence: Noam Chimpsky: He does sound like an inquisitive kid. He'll be a liberal for about 6 months and then he'll be telling anyone who'll listen that he's a libertarian. I don't think the liberal lockstep Borg mindset is going to take with this one.

You think liberals are lockstep? you clearly don't understand liberals. I believe the term "Herding cats" was used to describe thier tendancy for unity.


What makes those cats herdable?
 
2012-07-09 02:42:38 PM  

Guntram Shatterhand: Who the hell bases the feasibility of their ideology on some prepubescent spouting their talking points?


I'd say it's pretty much part of their playbook:

...He will not judge by what he sees with his eyes, or decide by what he hears with his ears; 4 but with righteousness he will judge the needy, with justice he will give decisions for the poor of the earth. He will strike the earth with the rod of his mouth; with the breath of his lips he will slay the wicked. 5 Righteousness will be his belt and faithfulness the sash around his waist.

6 The wolf will live with the lamb, the leopard will lie down with the goat, the calf and the lion and the yearling together; and a little child will lead them.


Isaiah 11:3-6
 
2012-07-09 02:53:46 PM  

BeesNuts: I don't get it. Why reinvent this episode of history?


Because the Emperor's Clothes are still real to him!
 
2012-07-09 03:20:40 PM  

Noam Chimpsky: What makes those cats herdable?


Actually I've had fair success with herding them with laser spots.

/cats, not liberals
 
2012-07-09 03:42:44 PM  
jodaveki: "Cans the size of [his] head??" He really never has been with a woman. Jeez those would be freakish.

Freakishly awesome.

/ Or maybe he has a small head
 
2012-07-09 04:02:50 PM  

rebelyell2006: Gwyrddu: The phrase originated with Francois Guisot (1787-1874): "Not to be a republican at twenty is proof of want of heart; to be one at thirty is proof of want of head." It was revived by French Premier Georges Clemenceau (1841-1929): "Not to be a socialist at twenty is proof of want of heart; to be one at thirty is proof of want of head."

Of course I doubt the philosophies back then translate that well into the 21st century. I think the reality is that as people age they tend to become less extremist. Since US politics is pretty far to the right, that would mean usually becoming liberal as you get older in the US.

They don't translate at all. I do not know when exactly the first quote was made, but judging by the man's age I presume he made it before the 1848 revolutions (during the time of the French Monarchy), or during/after the revolutions, when across Europe representational governments began to appear in limited numbers. Or perhaps he made it after Napoleon III had his coup. The leftist "Republicans" of the day were radicals compared to their counterparts on the right, the monarchists, the autocrats, the pro-Napoleon parties and individuals. There are absolutely no connections or similarities between the French Republicans of the 19th Century and America's GOP. Absolutely none.


They weren't CORRECT back then either. The argument was that to want social change at 20 was logical because you would want to help the poor, but by age 30 you should have outgrown childish notions and accepted that the Aristocracy were naturally superior beings and "the way things are" was the only logical, reasonable, proper way for things to be. Also everything that was ever going to be invented had been, the earth would never run our of natural resources, other races were inferior, and damn kids should get off my lawn.
 
2012-07-09 04:12:04 PM  

Weaver95: I like to think that the idiots of this world are a self solving problem. eventually they'll weed themselves out of the gene pool...we just have to be patient and give them plenty of opportunities to try a lot of dangerous stunts.


Except that isn't the case. Intelligent people tend to use family planning. Idiots do not. For the foreseeable future, we're going to have something of an Idiocracy effect. They'll simply reproduce faster than they can kill themselves off.

Things aren't going to radically change until Gattaca style genetic selection or outright genetic manipulation takes place. Then things are really going to get interesting (especially when you start asking who gets to set the standards for manipulation).
 
2012-07-09 04:18:29 PM  

Lupine Chemist: It's retarded to think that winding it down wont cost jobs, and good ones at that.


If we as a country have become so paralyzed with fear that cutting government spending may result in some temporary job losses, then we've sort-of failed.

If we cut military spending, we will see job losses. The goal is to see them realigned to civilian projects. Maybe those rocket scientists will move on and finally invent a microwave oven that can heat a bag of popcorn without burning any of the kernels.
 
2012-07-09 04:29:57 PM  
He's 17. Hopefully he's wiser now than he was at 13. It's really not that hard
 
2012-07-09 04:49:15 PM  
No hero tag?
 
2012-07-09 04:58:49 PM  
This guy is walking down the street when he notices a kid on the sidewalk with a box. On the side of the box is a sign:

Republican kittens for sale

He kind of chuckles at the idea and goes on his way. A couple of weeks later, he's walking along the same street when he sees the same kid with the box, only now the sign has been changed:

Democrat kittens for sale.

The guy goes up to the kid and asks, "Hey, what's the deal with the kittens? A couple weeks ago, they were Republican kittens. How come they're Democrats now?"

The kid looks at him and says, "Oh that's simple, they opened their eyes."
 
2012-07-09 05:18:46 PM  

animal color: List of People Conspiring Against the GOP, and therefore, America
(LOPCATGOPATA for short):
Liberals
Democrats

Socialists
Community Organizers
Geologists
Biologists
Meteorologists
Climatologists
Atheists
Muslims
Jews
Satan
ABC
NBC
CNN
CBS
PBS
All of cable news except FNC
The New York Times
The LA Times
The Washington Post
The Associated Press
Reuters
BBC
The Guardian
Black People
Mexicans
Human Rights Activists
SCOTUS
Europe
Movie Industry
Television Industry
Environmentalists
ACLU
The United Nations
Labor Unions
Colleges
Teachers
Professors
ACORN
National Endowment for the Arts
Gays
Judges
NPR
Paleontologists
Astrophysicists
Museums (*except Creationism Museum)
WHO
WTO
Inflated tires
The Honolulu Advertiser
The Star Bulletin
Teletubbies
Sponge Bob and Patrick
Nobel Prize Committee
US Census Bureau
NOAA
Sesame Street
Comic Books
Little Green Footballs
Video Games
The Bible
CBO
Bruce Springsteen
Pennies
The Theory of Relativity
Comedy Central
Young People
whatever the hell a Justin Beiber is
Small Business Owners
Math
CPAC
Navy SEALs
The Economist
The Muppets
Iowa Republicans
Low-Flow Toilets
Breast Cancer Screenings
Chrysler
Clint Eastwood.
Robert Deniro
Tom Hanks
Glenn Frey
Norman Rockwell
James Cameron
Dr. Seus
Nuns
Supreme Court Justice John Roberts
Jonathan Krohn at age 17


Proud to fall under 7 categories of this list!
 
2012-07-09 05:33:46 PM  
I wonder how many death threats this kid is going to get over the next month or so.
 
2012-07-09 05:51:22 PM  

Dinjiin: Weaver95: I like to think that the idiots of this world are a self solving problem. eventually they'll weed themselves out of the gene pool...we just have to be patient and give them plenty of opportunities to try a lot of dangerous stunts.

Except that isn't the case. Intelligent people tend to use family planning. Idiots do not. For the foreseeable future, we're going to have something of an Idiocracy effect. They'll simply reproduce faster than they can kill themselves off.

Things aren't going to radically change until Gattaca style genetic selection or outright genetic manipulation takes place. Then things are really going to get interesting (especially when you start asking who gets to set the standards for manipulation).


We could always implement a Vietnamese style population control policy. Only two kids unless you're college educated, then you can have a third kid.

/no, i'm not serious, don't dig this up to use against me when I run for president in 30 years
 
2012-07-09 06:23:52 PM  

rynthetyn: We could always implement a Vietnamese style population control policy. Only two kids unless you're college educated, then you can have a third kid.


Except that in the States, the Associate Degree is the new high school degree. Some of the classes being taught at my local CC were roughly equivalent to classes I took while in junior and senior high.
 
2012-07-09 08:41:59 PM  
So this guy's way of saying he believes the right to be childish is to use childish insults? Exactly what is he trying to prove again, besides his own hypocrisy?
 
2012-07-09 10:36:08 PM  
Someone get the Grand ol' Party some aloe vera for that SIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIICK BUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUURN!!!

/soothing
 
2012-07-10 02:03:45 AM  

Empty Matchbook: Someone get the Grand ol' Party some aloe vera for that SIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIICK BUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUURN!!!

/soothing


Does it work on butthurt too?
 
2012-07-10 04:16:36 AM  

tallguywithglasseson: Links to Fark threads from when he was a 13 year old.13 Year Old "Conservative Republican" Speaks

Jonathan Krohn, the 13-year old who spoke at CPAC calls Barack Obama "The most left-wing president in my lifetime" apparently unaware he is the only left-wing president in his lifetime


2nd to last post on that thread...

A ray of hope.....

I was a LOT like this kid at that age (right down to being a regular caller on a conservative radio show and a youth leader at church.)

I'm happy to say that today I am a liberal agnostic atheist. So, there is hope for the kid as he grows up.


Good call.
 
2012-07-10 04:17:18 PM  

BeesNuts: Jim_Callahan: BeesNuts:
I guess they just invited him to speak at CPAC because they weren't able to fill all the time slots?

More or less, yes. Then the media went into "fluffy human interest story" mode and he ended up spread around a bit.

People care about what he has to say about as much as they care about the star wars kid's fencing technique. Conventions are not really the srs bzns they're made out to be, they're like 90% social occasions, 8% victory lap for recent political victories, and 2% actually talking policy.

Him popping back up now is, to extend the analogy a bit, equivalent to the month or so of random follow-up where we learned that the Star Wars Kid grew up to be a lawyer. Kind of interesting in a fuzzy-human-interest-story way, but not something to actually be cared about.

Star Wars Kid didn't have Newt Gingrich say he was "Sure to be a leader of his generation's return to conservatism the dark side."

Star Wars Kid wasn't also given subsequent speaking engagements for the following year and a half at TEA Party Rallies Wookie-Cons across the country.

Star Wars Kid didn't make the rounds to be interviewed by Niel Cavuto, Bill Bennet, Mark Levin or Rush Limbaugh. He didn't get to make live appearances on ABC, NBC, CBS, Fox, and Syndicated Radio.

I don't get it. Why reinvent this episode of history? Fully *half* of the kids life since 2009 has been consumed by peddling the stuff he was selling at CPAC. The remaining 2 appear to have been spent being a somewhat normal kid. Good for him. Regardless of what he believes today, good for him.

I didn't like the cynical way he was "used" 4 years ago, and hopefully this doesn't signify some kind of re-entry into the arena unless he himself wills it.


Star Wars kid is also a museum curator, not a lawyer. A French-speaking curator of a museum dedicated to a battle where America was defeated. Your argument is invalid.

Citation
 
2012-07-10 05:04:08 PM  

clovis69: I'm a Republican, I'm not a social conservative.

I'll keep registering Republican and voting in the primaries, local and general elections because I was here before the social conservative morons started registering Republican and I'll be here after they leave.

Fark the social conservatives and the unions.


...I really don't care what you register, but are you trying to say that you vote for people whose stated goals are usually some form of racism, sexism, or homophobia, because they used to be better?
 
2012-07-11 05:53:31 PM  

Surool: Empty Matchbook: Someone get the Grand ol' Party some aloe vera for that SIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIICK BUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUURN!!!

/soothing

Does it work on butthurt too?


It does! And if you act now, you'll receive TWO bottles of Conservative Tears. Conservative Tears, the taste YOU'VE been waiting for.
 
2012-07-11 07:29:45 PM  

Empty Matchbook: Surool: Empty Matchbook: Someone get the Grand ol' Party some aloe vera for that SIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIICK BUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUURN!!!

/soothing

Does it work on butthurt too?

It does! And if you act now, you'll receive TWO bottles of Conservative Tears. Conservative Tears, the taste YOU'VE been waiting for.


Conservative tears are almost worthless because they are so common and they've been flowing since November 2008.
 
2012-07-11 08:18:43 PM  

Surool: Empty Matchbook: Surool: Empty Matchbook: Someone get the Grand ol' Party some aloe vera for that SIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIICK BUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUURN!!!

/soothing

Does it work on butthurt too?

It does! And if you act now, you'll receive TWO bottles of Conservative Tears. Conservative Tears, the taste YOU'VE been waiting for.

Conservative tears are almost worthless because they are so common and they've been flowing since November 2008.


That's why it's two bottles...
 
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