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(Chicago Sun-Times)   Chicago's hierarchical street gang structure has broken down into chaos, with small factions of freelancing gangsters driving up murder rate. Police have no GD idea what's going on   (suntimes.com) divider line 184
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2012-07-08 04:07:08 PM  
Do you that this might have something of the shutting down of the gang units?

Darn bu chicago screwed up on this one.
 
2012-07-08 04:11:58 PM  
I see what you did there, subby.
 
2012-07-08 04:17:10 PM  
It's funny . . . but . . . I have the Ke$ha song going through my head:

There's a place downtown,
Where the freaks all come around.
It's a hole in the wall.
It's a dirty free for all
 
2012-07-08 04:34:12 PM  
They clearly need to band together and stop fighting over their little pieces of turf:
i180.photobucket.com
 
2012-07-08 04:55:36 PM  

robmilmel: They clearly need to band together and stop fighting over their little pieces of turf:
[i180.photobucket.com image 600x450]


Warriors, come out and play!
 
2012-07-08 06:54:33 PM  
Those gangstas need a document that lays outs their organization. It should spell out some sort of representative political process, and maybe a court of review so the big shots don't get too far out of hand. There might be some sort of executive board to handle daily business. A better-organized and more equitable enforcement function might help, too. The various gangs should send representatives to the big meeting so everyone feels like he has at least been represented. Maybe hold elections, too.
 
2012-07-08 10:03:14 PM  
It's my kind of town.
 
2012-07-08 10:04:05 PM  

This About That: Those gangstas need a document that lays outs their organization. It should spell out some sort of representative political process, and maybe a court of review so the big shots don't get too far out of hand. There might be some sort of executive board to handle daily business. A better-organized and more equitable enforcement function might help, too. The various gangs should send representatives to the big meeting so everyone feels like he has at least been represented. Maybe hold elections, too.


I've got a proposition for you...
 
2012-07-08 10:04:16 PM  
not a repeat of a prior era?
 
2012-07-08 10:05:44 PM  
I say start giving out more ammo and guns on the street corners, the problem will solve itself.
 
2012-07-08 10:05:47 PM  
Can you dig it!?
 
2012-07-08 10:06:02 PM  
if they keep killing each other, shouldn't the problem eventually self-correct?
 
2012-07-08 10:06:19 PM  
Can you dig it?
 
2012-07-08 10:07:02 PM  
Darn you, shotglasss. Darn you to heck!
 
2012-07-08 10:07:56 PM  

robmilmel: They clearly need to band together and stop fighting over their little pieces of turf:
[i180.photobucket.com image 600x450]


I can dig it. Can you dig it?
 
2012-07-08 10:09:20 PM  
I blame the weakened Italian mafia for the upsurge in Black and Latino gangs, and I blame the FBI for weakening the Mafia which has, in turn, led to the current wave of violence.
 
2012-07-08 10:10:23 PM  
gd_info
 
2012-07-08 10:11:00 PM  

This About That: Those gangstas need a document that lays outs their organization. It should spell out some sort of representative political process, and maybe a court of review so the big shots don't get too far out of hand. There might be some sort of executive board to handle daily business. A better-organized and more equitable enforcement function might help, too. The various gangs should send representatives to the big meeting so everyone feels like he has at least been represented. Maybe hold elections, too.


I don't think the police will like the competition.
 
2012-07-08 10:12:41 PM  
Just wall off the whole damn city and let them all kill each other off. And if that takes too long...

You clandestinely let one of the gangs buy or steal a nuclear bomb and transport it into the middle of the city, then send in your best agent to "defuse" it.

kpbs.media.clients.ellingtoncms.com
 
2012-07-08 10:14:03 PM  

Pelvic Splanchnic Ganglion: Darn you, shotglasss. Darn you to heck!


Darn, it you'da just been a bit quicker....
 
2012-07-08 10:15:45 PM  
This happened in Milwaukee, the larger gangs "devolved" into small crews that are responsible for mini crime waves. These small crews are much harder to combat than a larger gang with an identifiable structure.
 
2012-07-08 10:15:47 PM  

Pelvic Splanchnic Ganglion: Can you dig it?


CAN YOU DIG IIIIIIIIT!!!!
www.gregwilson.co.uk
 
2012-07-08 10:15:58 PM  
F*ck you ,Archie.Just for that your not in the gang anymore
 
2012-07-08 10:16:00 PM  

This About That: Those gangstas need a document that lays outs their organization. It should spell out some sort of representative political process, and maybe a court of review so the big shots don't get too far out of hand. There might be some sort of executive board to handle daily business. A better-organized and more equitable enforcement function might help, too. The various gangs should send representatives to the big meeting so everyone feels like he has at least been represented. Maybe hold elections, too.


This is assuming that a single one of those gangsters has an idea on how to run a successive long term criminal organization. Everything i have seen or heard about gangs makes them nothing more than dumb kids who think they matter and kill other dumb kids for pointless reasons all while being used by organized criminal organizations such as the mob be it the Mexican, Italian, Jewish or whatever.
 
Ehh
2012-07-08 10:16:03 PM  
This About That: Those gangstas need a document that lays outs their organization. It should spell out some sort of representative political process, and maybe a court of review so the big shots don't get too far out of hand. There might be some sort of executive board to handle daily business. A better-organized and more equitable enforcement function might help, too. The various gangs should send representatives to the big meeting so everyone feels like he has at least been represented. Maybe hold elections, too.

And we're done here.

Also
 
2012-07-08 10:16:04 PM  

AverageAmericanGuy: I blame the weakened Italian mafia for the upsurge in Black and Latino gangs, and I blame the FBI for weakening the Mafia which has, in turn, led to the current wave of violence.


This is obviously a plot by Eric Holder to pass draconian gun control laws.
 
BBH
2012-07-08 10:16:14 PM  
The Chicago cops did a great job taking out the previous leaders, now all the "bangers" are trying to get all they can. Too bad we cannot teach them how to shoot more accurately, they will take each other out without killing innocent bystanders.
 
2012-07-08 10:16:46 PM  
 
2012-07-08 10:16:55 PM  

AverageAmericanGuy: I blame the weakened Italian mafia for the upsurge in Black and Latino gangs, and I blame the FBI for weakening the Mafia which has, in turn, led to the current wave of violence.


So, you wont blame the people who do the actual shooting?
 
2012-07-08 10:17:27 PM  

animesucks: if they keep killing each other, shouldn't the problem eventually self-correct?


Since this would be happening in the United States, the term is not "collateral damage."

/It's innocent bystanders, Trolly Trolling McTroll.
//Back under the bridge with ye.
 
2012-07-08 10:18:59 PM  
What are they using to kill people with? Handguns are illegal in Chicago.
 
2012-07-08 10:20:43 PM  

MikeMc: This happened in Milwaukee, the larger gangs "devolved" into small crews that are responsible for mini crime waves. These small crews are much harder to combat than a larger gang with an identifiable structure.


Are you trying to tell me that cops in Milwaukee are too fat, lazy, and stupid to get out of the car and ask questions?

/Because I'd believe you.
 
2012-07-08 10:20:51 PM  

uber humper: AverageAmericanGuy: I blame the weakened Italian mafia for the upsurge in Black and Latino gangs, and I blame the FBI for weakening the Mafia which has, in turn, led to the current wave of violence.

So, you wont blame the people who do the actual shooting?


No more than I can blame the warlords in Africa for trying to establish order after the raping their lands suffered at the hands of the Europeans.
 
2012-07-08 10:20:59 PM  

Mad_Radhu: AverageAmericanGuy: I blame the weakened Italian mafia for the upsurge in Black and Latino gangs, and I blame the FBI for weakening the Mafia which has, in turn, led to the current wave of violence.

This is obviously a plot by Eric Holder to pass draconian gun control laws.


Eric Holder don't care about bown people.
 
2012-07-08 10:21:12 PM  

handparty: What are they using to kill people with? Handguns are illegal in Chicago.


i2.crtcdn1.net
 
2012-07-08 10:21:47 PM  
They all like to suck eachother's butts. Then they get embarrassed and kill whoever sees them buttsucking.
 
2012-07-08 10:22:23 PM  

Thisbymaster: I say start giving out more ammo and guns on the street corners, the problem will solve itself.


Because:

(1) not one civilian has ever been killed when gangs fight, since bullets fired rfrom the guns of gangsters cannot touch the flesh of not gangsters

(2) as these things play out, everyone fights until a single gangster is standing

(3) lesser gangs/gangsters never glom onto the trending winner, thus making the surviving gang bigger and more expansive

(4) the winners of these little wars have never then used the more open ecosystem to become an even greater threat
 
2012-07-08 10:22:35 PM  

handparty: What are they using to kill people with? Handguns are illegal in Chicago.


These

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2012-07-08 10:23:04 PM  

animesucks: if they keep killing each other, shouldn't the problem eventually self-correct?


I'm thinking THIS.

Tell the non-gang-members ("citizens", "victims", whatever term you choose to apply) to move the hell out. Pull back the police and set up stronger patrols to make sure the bangers stay in banger territory, but don't bother going into banger territory.

It's what the gangs want. It's what the citizens want. Everybody wins! (And later, after the gangs murder themselves, everybody wins again.)
 
2012-07-08 10:23:22 PM  

Nezorf: Pelvic Splanchnic Ganglion: Can you dig it?

CAN YOU DIG IIIIIIIIT!!!!
[www.gregwilson.co.uk image 393x344]


I can dig it - goddammit so much - now I'm gonna have to watch this tonight - I have the DVD - one of my favorite movies when I was growing up.

You Warriors are good - real good.
 
2012-07-08 10:25:11 PM  
Legalize drugs and this and this all goes away.
 
2012-07-08 10:25:29 PM  

AverageAmericanGuy: uber humper: AverageAmericanGuy: I blame the weakened Italian mafia for the upsurge in Black and Latino gangs, and I blame the FBI for weakening the Mafia which has, in turn, led to the current wave of violence.

So, you wont blame the people who do the actual shooting?

No more than I can blame the warlords in Africa for trying to establish order after the raping their lands suffered at the hands of the Europeans.


Comedy gold.

And I figured you had no sense of humor.
 
2012-07-08 10:25:48 PM  
They really ought to crackdown on this sort of thing.
www.blogcdn.com
 
2012-07-08 10:27:41 PM  

Solid Muldoon: Legalize drugs and this and this all goes away.


In exactly the same way that ending the Prohibition eliminated the Mafia.
 
2012-07-08 10:29:28 PM  
It's scary that Chicago (or any city) would have an ongoing daily need for lab ballistic results.
 
2012-07-08 10:29:47 PM  
But socialism!?
 
2012-07-08 10:31:22 PM  

W.C.fields forever: F*ck you ,Archie.Just for that your not in the gang anymore


Beautiful evening. You can almost see the stars.
 
2012-07-08 10:32:19 PM  
Simple: we just reach the point where there are more gangs than gang members. Then by the pigeonhole principle, at least one gang member has to shoot himself to settle a score.

Keep this up for a few years and the problem goes away.
 
2012-07-08 10:32:47 PM  

demaL-demaL-yeH: MikeMc: This happened in Milwaukee, the larger gangs "devolved" into small crews that are responsible for mini crime waves. These small crews are much harder to combat than a larger gang with an identifiable structure.

Are you trying to tell me that cops in Milwaukee are too fat, lazy, and stupid to get out of the car and ask questions?

/Because I'd believe you.


From around here are ya?
 
2012-07-08 10:33:16 PM  

demaL-demaL-yeH: Solid Muldoon: Legalize drugs and this and this all goes away.

In exactly the same way that ending the Prohibition eliminated the Mafia.


Yea, goes away...

"Aw shucks. The gig is up, no more drug dealing for us anymore -- time to get a job"
 
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