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2012-07-08 12:27:51 PM
Your g/f was recalled over listeria?
 
2012-07-08 02:26:38 PM
And that's the only time that Rosie O'Donnell will ever be recalled enthusiastically.
 
2012-07-08 02:41:21 PM
Def Leppard reference in 3... 2...
 
2012-07-08 02:42:03 PM
On the upside, the meat makes your breath minty-fresh.
 
2012-07-08 02:43:52 PM
Will you stop saying '4691 irradiated haggis'?
 
2012-07-08 02:44:36 PM
This recall is bringing on the heartache.
 
2012-07-08 02:49:04 PM

skinink: This recall is bringing on the heartache.


Yeah. And it's a little too late. (tooooo late... Tooo laaate for....recall?)
 
2012-07-08 02:50:15 PM
upload.wikimedia.org
 
2012-07-08 02:50:16 PM
Listeria is a global cooling problem, not warming. Therefore Global Warming is a scam!!!
 
2012-07-08 02:51:16 PM
It comes with a free cantelope.
 
2012-07-08 02:52:02 PM
That's a spicey meatball.

greenhilly.com
 
2012-07-08 02:52:37 PM
It probably doesn't smell like wisteria.
 
2012-07-08 02:53:58 PM

skinink: This recall is bringing on the heartache.


Pouring more sugar on the problem won't help, either.
 
2012-07-08 02:55:11 PM
I've had listeria most of my adult life apparently.
 
2012-07-08 02:55:29 PM

LordOfThePings: Will you stop saying '4691 irradiated haggis'?


Fun? This is fun!
 
2012-07-08 02:56:09 PM
Anybody got a photograph?
 
2012-07-08 03:01:27 PM
www.eventimagecenter.com

WHO FARKED UP THE MEAT?????
 
2012-07-08 03:03:09 PM
upload.wikimedia.org?
 
2012-07-08 03:03:28 PM
upload.wikimedia.org
 
2012-07-08 03:07:14 PM
between this thread and the one below it about Scranton PA, I was expecting a 30,000 pounds of bananas reference

no such luck
 
2012-07-08 03:10:58 PM

vodka: Listeria is a global cooling problem, not warming. Therefore Global Warming is a scam!!!


HA!!

But seriously, why are those two words not pronounced the same way? Whose idea was that?
 
2012-07-08 03:13:30 PM

Jamdug!: Your g/f was recalled over listeria?


I think she wasn't getting enough meat and became hysterical. A visit to the doctor to get a good dildoing will cure her hysteria.
 
2012-07-08 03:14:47 PM
Subby just gave a bunch of jackoffs with a garage band new hope.
 
2012-07-08 03:16:16 PM
More big govt interference on a small business. If a few people die then the market will decide if the meat is good or bad, not some bureaucrat in DC.
 
2012-07-08 03:18:13 PM

LarryDan43: [upload.wikimedia.org image 220x220]


Came for this.

Leaving this
 
2012-07-08 03:24:05 PM
As Homer once said... Good things don't end in 'eum'. They end in 'mania', or 'teria'
 
2012-07-08 03:24:10 PM
One reason why factory farming is less efficient in the end than small scale traditional farming. All the energy spent in growing corn feed and shipping things thousands of miles, then tack on inevitable recalls of hundreds of thousands of pounds of meat due to sloppy procedures that result from large scale assembly line production of meat. Happens every year it seems. The last time it was a million eggs, IIRC. What a farking waste.
 
2012-07-08 03:25:21 PM
Put on your pretty lies, you're in the city of wonder
Ain't gon' play nice, watch out you might just go under
Better think twice, your train of thought will be altered
So if you must falter be wise

Your mind's in listeria, it's like the darkness is light
Listeria, am I scaring you tonight?
Listeria, ain't used to what you like
Listeria, listeria
 
2012-07-08 03:31:16 PM
Odd that it is a ready-to-eat (i.e. cooked) product involved.
Keeping an abattoir sanitary is a real problem, all they had to do to prevent this was clean their kitchens.
 
2012-07-08 03:35:18 PM
 
2012-07-08 03:55:46 PM
Not crazy about recall.
 
2012-07-08 03:56:48 PM
i.imgur.com

Not crazy about recall.


/Wut happened?
 
2012-07-08 04:19:42 PM

jicon: As Homer once said... Good things don't end in 'eum'. They end in 'mania', or 'teria'


So liseum would be even worse? And a musteria would be totally baller?
 
2012-07-08 04:20:30 PM
media.tumblr.com
 
2012-07-08 04:22:27 PM

Froman: One reason why factory farming is less efficient in the end than small scale traditional farming. All the energy spent in growing corn feed and shipping things thousands of miles, then tack on inevitable recalls of hundreds of thousands of pounds of meat due to sloppy procedures that result from large scale assembly line production of meat. Happens every year it seems. The last time it was a million eggs, IIRC. What a farking waste.


You realize that 300,000 pounds of meat only represents a few hours of production for a major protein producer, don't you?
 
2012-07-08 04:46:30 PM

LarryDan43: [upload.wikimedia.org image 220x220]


Yeah, that card was already played very early in the thread.
 
2012-07-08 05:06:38 PM
I hate recall articles that don't detail what products are actually recalled. Now several people will go into panic about product they have in their freezer and will cause all sorts of trouble at the store they purchased it from. They should know the general public can do stupid stuff with little knowledge. Nothing like watching someone act like someone is trying to kill their whole family because they can't get a refund for food that is not really being recalled. To make it worse, they let the product spoil before taking it back.

Most recalls are not the entire product line, but just a few manufacture codes. Very few are even made public, the stores already know and have pulled the product.
 
2012-07-08 05:08:45 PM

Happy Hours: You realize that 300,000 pounds of meat only represents a few hours of production for a major protein producer, don't you?


"Major protein producer"? Is that PC for "slaughter house"?

Dude, just call it what it is. Protein producer my ass. The protein is already "produced", they just liberate it from its central nervous system and vital life systems.
 
2012-07-08 05:22:43 PM

Ambivalence: Happy Hours: You realize that 300,000 pounds of meat only represents a few hours of production for a major protein producer, don't you?

"Major protein producer"? Is that PC for "slaughter house"?

Dude, just call it what it is. Protein producer my ass. The protein is already "produced", they just liberate it from its central nervous system and vital life systems.


You laugh, but that's what they call themselves. There are slaughter houses, but there are also distribution channels, feed lots, offices, etc.... I suppose meat producer works equally well.

Funny comment found in their software: /* date cow was murdered */

One of our sysadmins also thought it would be funny to name a server ecoli. Upper management was not amused when they found out.
 
2012-07-08 06:11:21 PM

Happy Hours: Ambivalence: Happy Hours: You realize that 300,000 pounds of meat only represents a few hours of production for a major protein producer, don't you?

"Major protein producer"? Is that PC for "slaughter house"?

Dude, just call it what it is. Protein producer my ass. The protein is already "produced", they just liberate it from its central nervous system and vital life systems.

You laugh, but that's what they call themselves. There are slaughter houses, but there are also distribution channels, feed lots, offices, etc.... I suppose meat producer works equally well.

Funny comment found in their software: /* date cow was murdered */

One of our sysadmins also thought it would be funny to name a server ecoli. Upper management was not amused when they found out.


One of our servers is named DrTeeth
 
2012-07-08 06:16:20 PM

Froman: One reason why factory farming is less efficient in the end than small scale traditional farming. All the energy spent in growing corn feed and shipping things thousands of miles, then tack on inevitable recalls of hundreds of thousands of pounds of meat due to sloppy procedures that result from large scale assembly line production of meat. Happens every year it seems. The last time it was a million eggs, IIRC. What a farking waste.


you are of course aware that listeria, salmonella, botulism, e.coli, fecal coliforms(shiat), and all other manner of pathogenic/spoilage bacteria come from the soil right?(i'd be shocked if I swabbed your shoes and didn't find at least listeria, e. coli, and c. botulism) And that 90% of botulism cases come from organic, home-grown, home canned foods not mass produced right? And that organic farming will only produce enough food for 1/3 of the current world population, I suggest for the "good of the planet" you opt to stave....since you apparently know nothing about food safety.

I work in a food testing lab, we get more "hits"(positive for listeria, e. coli, coliforms, campylobacter, botulism) from organic vs. commercially processed food.
and the research bears this out

The study found organic lettuce had the highest rate of fecal contamination, with a rate of over 22 percent. Avery says consumers could not assume they can simply "wash off" the fecal matter from the lettuce.
"Past research shows that E. coli can enter into the lettuce through the roots and be inside the lettuce, meaning you can't wash it off," Avery said.
 
2012-07-08 06:27:57 PM
we also had to send the owner of our lab to an "organic meat supplier"(slaughterhouse), because they had no HACCP plan and their meat was filthy, e. coli H:0157in over HALF the samples tested, listeria and salmonella in another 30-40% of samples, they cleaned up and now only about 10-20% of the samples are contaminated(and we receive them within two hours of the animal's demise and butchering, delivered by the owner), the organic dairy that has contamination problems decided it was "too expensive" to follow our HACCP recommendations, and decided to "play the odds", their hoping no one gets sick, and if they do, wouldn't think to blame it on the organic dairy products, because "organic is safer", if it does happen there is proof that they knew of the problem and choose to do nothing about it.
 
2012-07-08 06:35:52 PM
upload.wikimedia.org
 
2012-07-08 06:51:52 PM

BlaqueKatt: The study found organic lettuce had the highest rate of fecal contamination, with a rate of over 22 percent. Avery says consumers could not assume they can simply "wash off" the fecal matter from the lettuce.
"Past research shows that E. coli can enter into the lettuce through the roots and be inside the lettuce, meaning you can't wash it off," Avery said.


I'll try not to panic, but what kind of testing do commercial fruits/vegetables go through? Is there any at all? Do they require large producers to test a sample of their crops?

And even if they do, I suspect that wouldn't have helped with the lysteria contaminated cantaloupes a couple of years ago, which IIRC were contaminated during shipping.

/pretty sure I bought and ate one of those cantaloupes. I didn't die, but I sure didn't feel very good for a few days.I know it's irrational of me, but I haven't bought cantaloupes since.
 
2012-07-08 07:49:40 PM

Happy Hours:
And even if they do, I suspect that wouldn't have helped with the lysteria contaminated cantaloupes a couple of years ago, which IIRC were contaminated during shipping.


no they were contaminated from listeria in the soil while growing, the rind was harboring bacteria in the many grooves it was transferred to the inner fruit via knife. and they were sold as "safer" being "pesticide free".

Commercial farms usually have onsite testing labs, and comprehensive HACCP plans, a large portion of organics are grown outside the FDAs jurisdiction, so no testing is done.

stonyfield farms explains this, stonyfield farms is an industrial processing plant, that owns zero cows, and trucks in milk from other states, may be bringing it in from other countries so "All the energy spent in growing corn feed and shipping things thousands of miles" is done more with organics.
 
2012-07-08 07:57:37 PM
Bridgeton, New Jersey-based Buona Vita Inc.

They wouldn't happen to be a subsidiary of

img684.imageshack.us
 
2012-07-08 08:04:22 PM
 
2012-07-08 10:35:00 PM

Happy Hours:
These were not "organic" or "pesticide free" cantaloupes,

um the labels on the melons from the Jensen farm were labeled pesticide free, the CDC has a photo of the label so unless there was another multi-state outbreak last year, yes they were.

and check current recalls, 7/6/12 that lettuce contaminated with salmonella, PIM sells bulk packs of organic romaine only.

The cantaloupe may be labeled:"Colorado Grown, Distributed by Frontera Produce, USA, Pesticide Free, Jensenfarms.com, Sweet Rocky Fords."

and all that is what HACCP aims to prevent, commercial farms have to have HACCP plans(it's an insurance requirement usually), organic farms normally do not.
 
2012-07-08 11:08:59 PM

BlaqueKatt: Froman: One reason why factory farming is less efficient in the end than small scale traditional farming. All the energy spent in growing corn feed and shipping things thousands of miles, then tack on inevitable recalls of hundreds of thousands of pounds of meat due to sloppy procedures that result from large scale assembly line production of meat. Happens every year it seems. The last time it was a million eggs, IIRC. What a farking waste.

you are of course aware that listeria, salmonella, botulism, e.coli, fecal coliforms(shiat), and all other manner of pathogenic/spoilage bacteria come from the soil right?(i'd be shocked if I swabbed your shoes and didn't find at least listeria, e. coli, and c. botulism) And that 90% of botulism cases come from organic, home-grown, home canned foods not mass produced right? And that organic farming will only produce enough food for 1/3 of the current world population, I suggest for the "good of the planet" you opt to stave....since you apparently know nothing about food safety.

I work in a food testing lab, we get more "hits"(positive for listeria, e. coli, coliforms, campylobacter, botulism) from organic vs. commercially processed food.
and the research bears this out

The study found organic lettuce had the highest rate of fecal contamination, with a rate of over 22 percent. Avery says consumers could not assume they can simply "wash off" the fecal matter from the lettuce.
"Past research shows that E. coli can enter into the lettuce through the roots and be inside the lettuce, meaning you can't wash it off," Avery said.


Well first, I wasn't talking about lettuce. Sloppy practice is sloppy practice, which can be present in any source if the company isn't careful enough. "Big organic" isn't immune to this. In the case of factory farmed meat that I was talking about, it's that the speed that they work at coupled with mechanization results in more contamination risk than small operations which have the luxury of being careful, and the corn diet is how you breed these super bugs in the cow's stomach which rot out your insides. Interesting how the second article is basically discrediting the researchers in the first one, and the website simply publishes both. If organic food was that dangerous, people would be dying right and left here.

Last I checked lettuce doesn't feel anything, but killing an animal for food then having to bury or burn it because someone screwed up and might have contaminated it is awful.

Organic food has salmonella!
Pesticides are good for you!

A message from your friendly neighborhood Walmart grocery.
 
2012-07-09 12:06:29 AM

BlaqueKatt: Happy Hours:
These were not "organic" or "pesticide free" cantaloupes,
um the labels on the melons from the Jensen farm were labeled pesticide free, the CDC has a photo of the label so unless there was another multi-state outbreak last year, yes they were.


Well, maybe they were and I missed that, which would pretty much mean I got sick for an entirely different reason since I don't buy organic shiat. I just don't remember anything about it being isolated to organic cantaloupes.

At any rate, it's not a current recall. I think you've made your point though (even if you don't need to convince me) - organic shiat isn't any safer or more nutritious than non-organic shiat.

Like I said, I worked for one of the biggest "murderers of animals" (better term than 'protein producer"?) in not just this country, but in the world. They kill about 5000 head of cattle in each beef plant every day (just in this country) and they are not organic. Add to that the pigs, the sheep, the chickens and I don't even remember how much blood is on their hands. I did have a running tally in my head at one point, but they just kept acquiring more and more smaller companies and when they got into poultry it was too much to count.

I worked in the office, but every time I went to the plant I'd see hundreds of beef carcasses hanging from hooks and all I'd want afterwards was a big juicy steak. I resisted the temptation to pick up fresh pieces of meat from the plant floor and eat them raw, but the plants were clean.

I had to deal with recalls too - every once in a while there was a big panic and I'd have to pull records of everything killed within a couple of hours - sometimes they'd expand the recall and I'd have to pull even more records.

There are USDA employees who work in all of their plants and they can SHUT DOWN EVERYTHING if they feel like it and sometimes they do. The biggest problem with the USDA though seemed to be arguments over whether certain carcasses were Prime and not just Choice or which were Choice instead of Select. They have graders, the USDA has graders. When they disagree there's sometimes animosity especially when you consider that it's a judgement call.

Oh well, I'm just rambling now - fark 'em all. I guess what I want to say is that 300,000 pounds of meat is nothing in the grand scheme of things and recalls are relatively rare given the scope of operations of not just my former employer but the entire meat industry as a whole.

One of the most farked up things I heard of when I was in that industry was a lawsuit that stemmed from a child dying from e coli. The cause was that some minimum wage worker at a Sizzler restaurant used the same knife that he had just used to cut raw beef to slice some watermelon and some little girl ate some of that watermelon. Guess who got sued. Well, yeah, Sizzler got sued, but they also sued the slaughter house - and they won. WTF?
 
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