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2012-07-08 11:53:35 AM
18 votes:
F*ck you, subby. Some people cannot consume gluten without terrifying health problems resulting.

It's not an issue of them being "precious little snowflakes", it's an issue of them lacking the ability to safely consume an extremely common food protein.
2012-07-08 03:57:27 PM
7 votes:
Celiac disease is not a "gluen intolerance". That poor kid doesn't realize asian food is packed with gluten. He'll be peeing from his ass all semester. Best advice for him is learn to cook.
2012-07-08 04:55:39 PM
6 votes:
Bathia_Mapes: Sid_6.7: F*ck you, subby. Some people cannot consume gluten without terrifying health problems resulting.

It's not an issue of them being "precious little snowflakes", it's an issue of them lacking the ability to safely consume an extremely common food protein.

So much this.


Except that these college kids are now grown-ups. Sooner or later they're going to have to go out into the world and learn to handle their celiac disease all by their little selves. What bothered me about this story isn't the kid's gluten intolerance, it's how mommy and daddy are still obsessing over him like he's a fragile toddler unable to manage on his own. So what if he can't eat the cafeteria food? (Very few of us ever could) He's a MAN now, mommy. He needs to learn how to find his own food without you being there to check labels for him. If he wants to live on ice cream instead of salad, that's going to be up to him. Can't find food in the vending machines? Maybe he'll have to learn how to bring his own snacks to class or whatever, like EVERYONE ELSE with celiac disease.

I'd never minimize the horrible effects of celiac disease. It almost killed a friend of mine in law school, after her intestines finally went completely insane and started attacking themselves. But she was able to manage all by herself to find things she could eat and avoid the stuff she couldn't; and if that meant she had to bring her own snacks to a study session because she couldn't eat the catered food, well, that was life. This kid better start learning that, because not everyone is going to provide him gluten-free food all his life, unless he never leaves his nest.
2012-07-08 04:36:49 PM
6 votes:
meat0918: I have no problem with actual tested and diagnosed sufferers of gluten problems. Its the insufferable hangers-on that piss people off, the ones that self diagnose, and have as much placebo/nocebo effect in play as well as paying attention to their diet and cutting out a lot of carbs to account for feeling better.

Yes, this. As a waiter I will bend over backwards to find something to eat for a supposed "gluten allergy" customer. We've sent the dishwasher to the store to pickup gluten free soy sauce, one example... only to find the "allergy sufferer" taking a nibble of their friend's fried, wheat and gluten loaded something-or-another.

I hate when people hide behind "allergies" and "intolerance" when the truth is they simply don't like something or are avoiding carbs. It is frustrating in the service industry, because everyone in the last 5 years has developed these "conditions," and we have to take them all seriously for the one guy out of ten that has a legitimate condition.
2012-07-08 04:24:11 PM
6 votes:
I worked in a bakery for 12 years and we had not only people walking in who had diabetes and Celiac disease, but employees with diabetes and Celiac disease. We sell farking bread and sweets, people.
DIAF.

You don't like to see tits? Don't go to a strip club.
You want to live on this planet?
Learn to eat the food.

I don't go to other planets and complain because it's raining ammonia.
2012-07-08 04:40:30 PM
5 votes:
Great Janitor: My prediction, 90% of those who get sick are in L.A., 100% are in the U.S.

I'm curious, is it comforting to be that ignorant and stupid? Do you just spend your time wandering around congratulating yourself on how smart you are for always being right, and thereby avoid actually looking anything up or learning anything? I mean, at least the people who get their 'facts' from e-mails that start Fw:fw:fw:fw:fw:fw:fw:fw:fw have the assumption of authority to explain their stupidity, you just kind of made up your own little world and ran with it, without even making a cursory investigation of the issue.
2012-07-08 04:34:18 PM
5 votes:
Incidentally... if gluten puts you in the hospital, please don't breed.

I'm not saying harm yourself, I'm saying don't pass on your horrible condition to future generations.
2012-07-08 03:48:52 PM
5 votes:
Some people have legitimate food allergies, and I feel for those people. Other people adopted gluten-free, organic, free range, vegan diets to be trendy, not because if they don't, they'll shiat their intestines out. Those people are annoying. I know someone who makes going out to eat with them absolute hell because they are picky to the point of being absurd about it. They have no medical reason for eating the way they do, they're basically a food hipster.
2012-07-08 01:26:08 PM
5 votes:
Ah yes, it's time once again for the people who raised my generation to biatch about how terrible my generation was raised.
2012-07-08 08:44:01 PM
4 votes:
Jeez you people are nasty and I say that as someone who's been on Fark for years.

The kid is in high school, will be on his own in college next year and his parents are helping him make sure his dietary needs will be met, helping him figure out where he can eat. That's not helicopter parenting, it's just parenting. I bet your parents helped you transition to college and taught you things you would need to know.

There is a learning process to dealing with celiac disease, since gluten hides in unexpected places. My niece, a junior in college, was recently diagnosed with celiac disease. And crazy as it might sound, she has to learn what she can and can't eat. She met with a nutritionist a couple of times. She got some cookbooks with gluten free recipes and she's figuring out how to deal. And yes, her parents help her. Not because they're helicopter parents (quite the opposite) but because they're her parents and that's what they do, help their children as necessary.

Yes, there are a lot of people who have randomly decided not to eat gluten for dubious reasons, but celiac disease is still real and gluten is still a big problem for people who have it. It's not one or the other, both exist simultaneously.

Being a jerk about allergies and medical conditions doesn't make you hip or cool, it just makes you a jerk.
2012-07-08 05:18:00 PM
4 votes:
if your college age child cannot feed themselves properly they probably shouldn't be in college. they are idiots. just like you.

stick your special kid up your arse. no one cares.
2012-07-08 04:19:01 PM
4 votes:
Sid_6.7: F*ck you, subby. Some people cannot consume gluten without terrifying health problems resulting.

It's not an issue of them being "precious little snowflakes", it's an issue of them lacking the ability to safely consume an extremely common food protein.


The problem is its become a fad. I know one person who is truly gluten intolerant, and another who I'm convinced says she is for the attention (she's like the "always sick kid" we all knew growing up... for attention.)

The guy that is truly gluten intolerant doesn't make a stink about it. Just goes about his life, and doesn't impose on others. If he attends a party and there's nothing he can eat or drink... he just doesn't. He doesn't expect anyone to cater to his needs. Of course, he's my friend, so I always make sure there's stuff he can eat and drink... but he doesn't expect it.

Similar to my wife... she doesn't eat red meat. If we go to a BBQ where there's only beef hamburgers... she grabs a drink, enjoys the party, and eats when we get home. She doesn't raise a fit, yelling "why the fark don't you also have chicken or turkey burgers you assholes!"
2012-07-08 04:16:21 PM
4 votes:
Spoon over Marin: FriarReb98: xanadian: Isn't it strange how much more common things like Celiac are these days? Never heard of gluten intolerance when I was a kid--either diagnosed or "hell, why do I crap hot-and-sour soup when I eat bread?"

There's something in our processing or something to do with what we use to eat with. The people who figure it out will get Nobel Prizes and probably ruin 99% of junk food for everyone.


It could be one of the pesticides (preservatives) that we started using in the 50's. Or HFCS.


The new wave of Celiac and gluten intolerance is largely tied to agricultural genetics. The grain that we farm now has been genetically modified to the point where some people's bodies don't recognize it as a food protein, and turn on the defenses as if it was an intruder.

Genetics were altered to help eliminate things like Smut in the grain, and improve the overall yield. Farmers pull in much higher yields than when we were kids, but they have inadvertantly contributed to intestinal discomfort in the process.
2012-07-08 04:00:19 PM
4 votes:
Oh please STFU about Gluten, peanuts and red dye number who gives a fark? People need to pull their heads out of there asses and start defining/distinguishing themselves by their actions and character instead of by their assumed frailties. Pussies.
2012-07-08 01:14:16 PM
4 votes:
Subby, you will receive many responses calling you a dick.

This is one of them.
2012-07-08 06:51:33 PM
3 votes:
bigworld2000: There was one kid in our son's 4th grade class who had to be accompanied by a teacher with an EpiPen whenever he went outside. And although kids could bring their own peanut-containing lunches, they could never share and nothing of the sort was allowed for school parties,

Fast forward to the end-of-the-school year party and in conversation with the parents I casually said something like, boy, it's kind of odd that your son is allergic to both bees and peanuts.

"Oh, we've never had him tested, we just don't want to take any chances."


People like this need hit repeatedly in the head with a blunt object until all the stupid is knocked out.
2012-07-08 05:13:05 PM
3 votes:
Sid_6.7: F*ck you, subby. Some people cannot consume gluten without terrifying health problems resulting.

It's not an issue of them being "precious little snowflakes", it's an issue of them lacking the ability to safely consume an extremely common food protein.


I hear that, I really do. I even think my mom might suffer and my dad's girlfriend definitely does. But I work in a private, high tech cafeteria, and when I see people come back time and time again for foods that obviously don't bother them, then suddenly they come in demanding this and that because they have a serious disease, I'm a little inclined to side with subby here. I'm talking about almost 25% of the people that use the cafe.
Again, not ripping on those who do have it, there's just a lot of trend followers out there.
2012-07-08 04:55:07 PM
3 votes:
EmmaLou: I work with a girl who says she's allergic to gluten. She cannot be around it in any form. Even being in the vicinity of a donut makes her sick. Obviously myself and my other sane co-workers think her problem is mental and probably somewhat related to her hair pulling/eating.

Oh, it most certainly is total BS. Even the worst gluten alergies are not like severe peanut allergies. You can hang out in a bakery all day... just don't eat the stuff that includes gluten.

Peanut allergies affect you if you come into contact with it anywhere in your body, or if you breathe it in.

Gluten allergies affect you when the stuff hits your guts.
2012-07-08 04:36:01 PM
3 votes:
vudukungfu: I worked in a bakery for 12 years and we had not only people walking in who had diabetes and Celiac disease, but employees with diabetes and Celiac disease. We sell farking bread and sweets, people.
DIAF.


Sheesh, you must have been awesome at customer service. Or local bakery provides tons of gluten free treats. Know why? Because people want them and it makes them more money.

Same reason restaurants now more often have a vegitarian section of their menu.

You sound bad at running a business.
2012-07-08 04:29:34 PM
3 votes:
To all asking why we never heard of celiac desease being diagnosed so much years ago - it's because people with it were very sickly, died early, and did not reproduce as much as now when the condition can be treated.

..ans, yeah, subby is a dick. Wrong application of snowflake here.
2012-07-08 04:01:43 PM
3 votes:
The My Little Pony Killer: Madbassist1: Sid_6.7: F*ck you, subby. Some people cannot consume gluten without terrifying health problems resulting.

It's not an issue of them being "precious little snowflakes", it's an issue of them lacking the ability to safely consume an extremely common food protein. That has only begun to show itself in the last decade

ftfa

I know, isn't it weird how advances in medicine and science work?

/you're an idiot


To be fair, the rest of the white-skinned world pretty much had this figured out decades ago. Not sure why Exceptional USA(tm) was so slow to the party here, but it certainly was. I guess it's more like "advances in reading the farking literature already"

Oh, and has anyone called subby a dick yet?

Or pointed out that gluten intolerance isn't in the same ballpark as bona fide Celiac disease?

/Oh, good
2012-07-08 03:54:02 PM
3 votes:
Madbassist1: Sid_6.7: F*ck you, subby. Some people cannot consume gluten without terrifying health problems resulting.

It's not an issue of them being "precious little snowflakes", it's an issue of them lacking the ability to safely consume an extremely common food protein. That has only begun to show itself in the last decade

ftfa


I know, isn't it weird how advances in medicine and science work?

/you're an idiot
2012-07-08 03:46:19 PM
3 votes:
The reason you never heard of peanut and wheat allergies before the 80's is because Darwin used to take care of that sort of thing.

/Flame away, I just don't care about your defects.
2012-07-08 03:44:59 PM
3 votes:
At least it's a family looking out for a member of it's own that can't digest gluten as opposed to idiots who think it's healthier or being trendy.

FYI: Gluten free isn't healthier. It's actually unhealthy to not have it in your diet if you can process it.
2012-07-08 02:29:02 PM
3 votes:
Sid_6.7: F*ck you, subby. Some people cannot consume gluten without terrifying health problems resulting.

It's not an issue of them being "precious little snowflakes", it's an issue of them lacking the ability to safely consume an extremely common food protein.


So much this.
2012-07-08 06:03:11 PM
2 votes:
How about those with medical issues take responsibility for them and make sure they eat what is allowed? If I have a chocolate cake allergy, I'm not going to demand that someone figure out a way to provide me with chocolate cake I can eat. The kid has a disease that prevents him from eating lots of different types of foods...guess what, HE'S GOING TO BE LIMITED IN HIS FOOD CHOICES! Life sucks. If he wants special meals, he can prepare them. Otherwise, he needs to eat what he can eat based on what is offered. If the salad bar is there and it's all he can eat, then his medical condition dictates that he's going to be eating at the salad bar.

THAT'S the problem. It's not that people think he's faking. Rather, it's that reasonable people realize that life sucks, that it's sometimes unfair, and that there are all kinds of diseases that affect relatively few people that dictate that those people live somewhat differently than others who aren't likewise afflicted.
2012-07-08 05:41:43 PM
2 votes:
jtown: FWIW, my vegetarian friends often eat meat when it's just two of us having lunch or dinner. In a group: "I haven't eaten meat in 5 years." "I haven't eaten meat in 11 years." Just me and 1 friend: "This place has the best steak sandwich!" (Which they then order and consume with great relish.)

Your friends are compulsive liars and they're still your friends?
2012-07-08 05:15:13 PM
2 votes:
downstairs: pedobearapproved: On the other hand I know more than a few gluten "sensitive" people and the effects they claim ranging from being bloated (eww yuck), to being tired. In other words they ate a big meal of pizza and suddenly they feel bad....

Hey I ate some beans and got gassy, I don't suddenly need a bean free diet do I? The same thing happened with undercooked rice. Maybe I should start a "woe" is me support group.

Again, its all how people handle it socially. If beans make you feel bad, sure... quit eating them. But, yeah, don't constantly biatch about it for attention... and don't give people dirty looks when they dare to serve beans at a party.

Personally, I'm getting to the point where beer... any beer... makes me feel bloated. I still drink though. A lot. If I go to a party and there's only beer, I don't throw a hissy fit.

I do know people that do, though.


I have a friend that's a total snowflake in that she claims to be allergic to everything. It's at the point where I'm embarrassed if I ever go out to eat with her. And instead of saying "I like this" or "I dislike this" it's "I'm allergic to this! And I'm insulted that your resturant cares so little about people with allergies" or the more embarrassing "I ordered this, had about half of it but I didn't know it had this thing I'm allergic to in it and suddenly I feel a bit icky, so I'm sending it back and can you take it off the bill?" But what I like more is that while the $30 a plate place is always terrible and so insensitive, she loves to eat from Jack In The Box... which is known for it's high quality faire

I'm hypoglycemic. I don't go and point out everything that will spike my bloodsugar and send me into a low blood sugar biatch fest. I just don't eat that stuff.
2012-07-08 05:14:07 PM
2 votes:
Sid_6.7: F*ck you, subby. Some people cannot consume gluten without terrifying health problems resulting.

It's not an issue of them being "precious little snowflakes", it's an issue of them lacking the ability to safely consume an extremely common food protein.


So glad to see this as the second response! THANK YOU!!

Before my mom was properly diagnosed with Celiac in 2007, she spent weeks in the doctor's office and hospital. She would vomit to the point of dehydration and get what looked like psoriasis ALL OVER her body. It can be a painful and debilitating (sp?) disease.

It hacks me off to see people--especially the Stepford Wives type of women--claim "gluten free" for vanity reasons, BUT they are probably the driving force behind more and more products being available.
2012-07-08 04:58:29 PM
2 votes:
Torsoheap: But sticking to your argument, if you had a condition that would kill any offspring you may have by the age of five or ten, you'd have kids? Just for teh lulz?

Everyone has a condition that would kill off their kids by the age of five under certain circumstances, but most people generally take the time to avoid or mitigate those circumstances.
2012-07-08 04:57:22 PM
2 votes:
Bathia_Mapes: \though I tend to think the peanut one has more to do with lack of built-up immunity than anything else

An allergy is the opposite of that. It's an overly aggressive immune system that goes full-on Hulk at the slightest provocation.
2012-07-08 04:54:28 PM
2 votes:
lwpengy: Gluten, soy, peanuts etc etc etc every week it is something new we have to outlaw or make special considerations for our snowflakes. Did not happen in the old days. Yet we keep making special rules and laws to help take care of their often overrated problems thus weakening the gene pool. Then we have more and more people with these problems causing more and more social restructuring. Fark that let them live and or die, let the gene pool improve our chances of resisting disease and or problems. Sorry you bred crotch-fruit that cannot adapt to the world we live in and are bringing down the survival rate of humans, but that should not be my problem nor expense.
( on a side note it does look like he is fingering the cat)


The same question above applies to you - do you wear eyeglasses?
2012-07-08 04:48:56 PM
2 votes:
I work with a girl who says she's allergic to gluten. She cannot be around it in any form. Even being in the vicinity of a donut makes her sick. Obviously myself and my other sane co-workers think her problem is mental and probably somewhat related to her hair pulling/eating.
2012-07-08 04:48:07 PM
2 votes:
downstairs: Horray for eugenics!

I assume you have nothing bad you'd pass on to your kids? Because 99% of people do, even if its minor.


Call me a cynic, but I don't see the world always working so that every person can eat anything they want all the time. At some point, the world will go back to slightly more localized, natural foods (as opposed to buying any exotic product one can think of and processing any "bad" stuff out of it), at which time wheat will once again become (as it should be) North America's staple crop.

But sticking to your argument, if you had a condition that would kill any offspring you may have by the age of five or ten, you'd have kids? Just for teh lulz? Only slightly more acceptable, what about a genetic condition that would result in your children being in pain throughout much of their lives? Just so YOU could have kids? I mean, that seems... horrible. And selfish.

Incidentally, eugenics are forced. You can go ahead and continue to pollute the human gene pool with digestive problems all you want, because that's exactly the same as, say, Hitler.
2012-07-08 04:39:33 PM
2 votes:
Tunacrab: I hate when people hide behind "allergies" and "intolerance" when the truth is they simply don't like something or are avoiding carbs. It is frustrating in the service industry, because everyone in the last 5 years has developed these "conditions," and we have to take them all seriously for the one guy out of ten that has a legitimate condition.

Also there's something I call the "always sick kid" syndrome. Sometimes kids learn that when they're sick, they get more sympathy/attention. This evolves into adulthood, where the person *ALWAYS* needs to be going through some physical ailment... because it means people will pay attention to them.

Its sad, because it makes people who really suffer from a condition suspect as faking it for attention.
2012-07-08 04:37:03 PM
2 votes:
puffy999: Incidentally... if gluten puts you in the hospital, please don't breed.

I'm not saying harm yourself, I'm saying don't pass on your horrible condition to future generations.


Horray for eugenics!

I assume you have nothing bad you'd pass on to your kids? Because 99% of people do, even if its minor.
2012-07-08 04:32:09 PM
2 votes:
gokc69: The new wave of Celiac and gluten intolerance is largely tied to agricultural genetics. The grain that we farm now has been genetically modified to the point where some people's bodies don't recognize it as a food protein, and turn on the defenses as if it was an intruder.

[citation badly needed]
2012-07-08 04:23:16 PM
2 votes:
Hobo Jr.: I don't have a learning disorder so I can't get extra time or special arrangements for test.

All things considered, I would be glad to give up the extra 20 minutes my son gets to take tests. If we could just get the problems that typical kids deal with, I would consider that the greatest day in my life.

Sorry to get all serious, but people have already explained that celiac is a real condition, and I just wanted to add that some learning disabilities are also real.
2012-07-08 04:06:35 PM
2 votes:
Canton: Allergies are weird

QFT

You can get them out of the blue at any age.
2012-07-08 04:02:10 PM
2 votes:
BrainyBear: A friend of mine thought she was having reproductive problems but when the physician couldn't uncover anything wrong, they experimented with her diet to see if cutting out gluten made a difference. She says she feels a lot better, but I think that's about as "scientific" as a diagnosis like this gets.

Proper diagnosis is a blood test (2 kinds of tests) followed by intestinal biopsy. Blood test is highly reliable, (very low chance of a false positive, slightly higher for a false negative). Doctor wasn't doing his job.

No treatment or drug exists for celiac disease. Only a gluten free diet. so definitely not a fad influenced by big pharma.
2012-07-08 03:59:58 PM
2 votes:
Allergic to food? Hungry people ain't allergic to shiat. You think anyone in Rwanda's got a lactose intolerance?!
2012-07-08 03:59:06 PM
2 votes:
He may require a gluten-free diet, but I guarantee you he has a gluteus-free diet.

/What I'm trying to say is, he doesn't get any ass! Get it?
2012-07-08 03:52:00 PM
2 votes:
FTFA, it appears that the family has entirely made the shift to a gluten free diet, which is a bad idea. If they insist that the cafeteria also goes to a completely gluten free menu to make this one kid safe, then subby might be right in the whole snowflake thing.
2012-07-08 03:50:49 PM
2 votes:
Man, I hate being normal.

I don't have any allergies food or otherwise. So I can't demand a special meal or hypoallergenic room.

I don't have a learning disorder so I can't get extra time or special arrangements for test.

I'm white.

I'm male.

And I don't have any religious hangups.

/oh well, back to my soul crushing heroin addiction.
2012-07-08 03:46:05 PM
2 votes:
yep, subby done fail this one.
2012-07-08 03:44:51 PM
2 votes:
Yup. Subby is a dick.
2012-07-08 03:44:41 PM
2 votes:
Bathia_Mapes: Sid_6.7: F*ck you, subby. Some people cannot consume gluten without terrifying health problems resulting.

It's not an issue of them being "precious little snowflakes", it's an issue of them lacking the ability to safely consume an extremely common food protein.

So much this.


I'm on your side, but this picture exactly illustrates why the term helicopter parent exists. It's not even a bad picture, but the sum of it's parts....

/That cat clearly doesn't want to be there
2012-07-08 03:44:23 PM
2 votes:
Yeah those snowflakes with Celiac Disease are just faking, like "diabetes" and "peanut allergy". Pfeh! Subby knows what's up.
2012-07-08 03:42:00 PM
2 votes:
The My Little Pony Killer: Sid_6.7: F*ck you, subby. Some people cannot consume gluten without terrifying health problems resulting.

It's not an issue of them being "precious little snowflakes", it's an issue of them lacking the ability to safely consume an extremely common food protein.

This.

Though I have to cut the "trendies" a bit of slack as their demand is helping to bring out more gluten-free options for those who actually NEED them.


Yeah.

I have no problem with actual tested and diagnosed sufferers of gluten problems. Its the insufferable hangers-on that piss people off, the ones that self diagnose, and have as much placebo/nocebo effect in play as well as paying attention to their diet and cutting out a lot of carbs to account for feeling better.
2012-07-08 03:41:55 PM
2 votes:
Toshiro Mifune's Letter Opener: Subby, you will receive many responses calling you a dick.

This is one of them.


This is not one of them. Nice jerb subs.

/food allergies are the new add.
//yep some are legit.
///some.
2012-07-08 02:38:12 PM
2 votes:
xanadian: Never heard of gluten intolerance when I was a kid--either diagnosed or "hell, why do I crap hot-and-sour soup when I eat bread?"

If this kid plans on eating Asian food everyday, he's gonna be crapping hot-and-sour soup no matter what.
2012-07-08 02:34:58 PM
2 votes:
FriarReb98: xanadian: Isn't it strange how much more common things like Celiac are these days? Never heard of gluten intolerance when I was a kid--either diagnosed or "hell, why do I crap hot-and-sour soup when I eat bread?"

There's something in our processing or something to do with what we use to eat with. The people who figure it out will get Nobel Prizes and probably ruin 99% of junk food for everyone.

\though I tend to think the peanut one has more to do with lack of built-up immunity than anything else


I wish someone could explain why I suddenly developed allergies to both peanuts and shellfish when I was around 16-years old. Ate both with no problems before then, and BAM, got two new allergies within months of each other.

I grew up in the 50s & 60s and was constantly playing outside, getting dirty, etc., just as any average child of the time did.
2012-07-08 02:33:54 PM
2 votes:
GAT_00: Ah yes, it's time once again for the people who raised my generation to biatch about how terrible my generation was raised.

It isn't even that- the article illusrates a family that requires a gluten free diet for medical reasons.

But making sure your kid goes to a college where he can get his special dietary needs met is concidered " helicopter parenting"
2012-07-08 01:57:19 PM
2 votes:
As for the pic: That kid's not getting laid anytime soon, and I'm guessing at least one of his first semester grades will be argued by those parents. Probably in an elective that he didn't care about and got a B- or some such shiat.
2012-07-08 12:35:42 PM
2 votes:
Sid_6.7: F*ck you, subby. Some people cannot consume gluten without terrifying health problems resulting.

It's not an issue of them being "precious little snowflakes", it's an issue of them lacking the ability to safely consume an extremely common food protein.


This.

Though I have to cut the "trendies" a bit of slack as their demand is helping to bring out more gluten-free options for those who actually NEED them.
2012-07-09 06:55:32 PM
1 votes:
Psycoholic_Slag: MadAzza: ThatDarkFellow: Maybe some people should just take a step back, breathe in and realize that nature just didn't intend for them to survive that long

You're right. I'm going to stop taking that daily pill that keeps my heart from going haywire.

How do you (and the rest of you morons) feel about nature's violent psychopaths? If you get killed by one, is that OK? It's nature, after all.

Do you find your daily pills growing on a bush somewhere? In nature, you would be dead by now. And yes, psychopaths are natural but so is killing them once they are discovered.

Nature red in tooth and claw.


So, I assume you do not eat any farm raised food, or use any products that were not scavenged from nature? Do you even understand how stupid this line of thought is? I know, I know, some people need so hard to feel superior about something, they fall back on the 'even though I am an idiot, I don't have food allergies, therefore I am genetically superior'. You do realize that everyone else is laughing at you?
2012-07-09 03:10:26 AM
1 votes:
One of my aunts developed Celiac in her 80's. She made the best tamales, albondigas, and just about anything else, and now she pretty much just watches from across the room. She has to be EXTREMELY careful in eating, the slightest contamination and she's in the hospital, it hits her within a couple bites. She's now stick thin because she can't eat anything. It's sad, and it's real. On the other hand, there's a mother and daughter who come into my store who are more or less vegetarian because "my daughter is allergic to gluten". They eat sweets up the yin-yang and biatch about how hard it is to lose weight, all the while making snarky comments about how they'll live so much longer than meat eaters. I've had 3 employees and my old boss tell me that the mom is hot for me, but ugly on the inside is a turnoff. To quote Ron White, "You can't fix stupid."
2012-07-09 12:58:41 AM
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jtown: Gyrfalcon: This kid better start learning that, because not everyone is going to provide him gluten-free food all his life, unless he never leaves his nest.

All of the product labels in stores and gluten-free menus in restaurants kinda contradict your claim. The first world is becoming an easy place to be special.

In the first 35 years of my life, I met exactly one person with Celiac Disease. In the last 5 years, I've met half a dozen people who claim to be gluten intolerant. But I've never heard a single one of those people say Celiac Disease and I've seen several of them eat plenty of gluten. FWIW, my vegetarian friends often eat meat when it's just two of us having lunch or dinner. In a group: "I haven't eaten meat in 5 years." "I haven't eaten meat in 11 years." Just me and 1 friend: "This place has the best steak sandwich!" (Which they then order and consume with great relish.)


Who puts relish on a steak sandwich? Even if it is great relish...still, ew.
2012-07-08 11:45:56 PM
1 votes:
F*ck you, subby. Some people cannot consume gluten without terrifying health problems resulting.

It's not an issue of them being "precious little snowflakes", it's an issue of them lacking the ability to safely consume an extremely common food protein.



I came here hoping someone had said this already. I'm not one of those people, but I'm leaving satisfied that not everyone in the world is an insensitive, unthinking moron like the subby just proved to be.

/Still no hope for the human race, but
//f*ck you subby
2012-07-08 09:06:07 PM
1 votes:
The All-Powerful Atheismo: What snowflake dining may look like:

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This comment deserves more attention because it made me laugh.
2012-07-08 08:57:50 PM
1 votes:
beantowndog: Charge double and mark everything gluten free, problem solved.

kid has celiac disease....dude
2012-07-08 08:23:00 PM
1 votes:
Khazar-Khum:...

"My best friend was diagnosed with Celiac in January. In October his intestines started trying to eat themselves. Months of tests, drugs, doctors--until a biopsy (on his birthday, no le ..."

Exactly. Celiac's isn't a fad and isn't psychosomatic; people with it have a genuine illness. A good friend of mine was wasting away until his doctor finally thought to test him for Celiac's. I guess he would've lasted just a year or two, but is doing alright now.

The kid in the article looks like a douchebag, but that doesn't mean there isn't a valid point buried in there. Some colleges, like my alma mater, require you to live on campus and to eat in the dining halls so you don't always have a choice. His mom can choke on one for disparaging the salad bar, but she's probably right.
2012-07-08 07:57:36 PM
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broadsword: Tunacrab: meat0918: I have no problem with actual tested and diagnosed sufferers of gluten problems. Its the insufferable hangers-on that piss people off, the ones that self diagnose, and have as much placebo/nocebo effect in play as well as paying attention to their diet and cutting out a lot of carbs to account for feeling better.

Yes, this. As a waiter I will bend over backwards to find something to eat for a supposed "gluten allergy" customer. We've sent the dishwasher to the store to pickup gluten free soy sauce, one example... only to find the "allergy sufferer" taking a nibble of their friend's fried, wheat and gluten loaded something-or-another.

I hate when people hide behind "allergies" and "intolerance" when the truth is they simply don't like something or are avoiding carbs. It is frustrating in the service industry, because everyone in the last 5 years has developed these "conditions," and we have to take them all seriously for the one guy out of ten that has a legitimate condition.

In regards to that 10%, I'd like to sincerely thank you for your efforts. My father is medically diagnosed and places like yours putting in the effort make a world of difference to him and the rest of the family who are affected when meals aren't handled correctly.

Best story I heard from him was a restaurant that they mentioned up-front when ordering about his allergies (he usually gets a plain steak and a sauce-less side since that's the easiest to ask for gluten-free), and a minute later the chef came out and started pointing out other items on the menu he might also like and what could be done differently to accommodate him.

And because of that whenever we're in town we go back to that place. Chefs and waiters like that are champions to me.


Another Intertube for Tunacrab.

My best friend was diagnosed with Celiac in January. In October his intestines started trying to eat themselves. Months of tests, drugs, doctors--until a biopsy (on his birthday, no less) finally found Celiac disease.

His is bad. How bad? He ordered a salad with no croutons. When it came out sprinkled in them, he sent it back. The waiter took it back, took off the croutons, and came back. He started eating, got sick, and saw a couple of little tiny crumbs on the salad. He ingested an amount that would fill this O.
2012-07-08 07:32:37 PM
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lwpengy: Torsoheap: lwpengy: Gluten, soy, peanuts etc etc etc every week it is something new we have to outlaw or make special considerations for our snowflakes. Did not happen in the old days. Yet we keep making special rules and laws to help take care of their often overrated problems thus weakening the gene pool. Then we have more and more people with these problems causing more and more social restructuring. Fark that let them live and or die, let the gene pool improve our chances of resisting disease and or problems. Sorry you bred crotch-fruit that cannot adapt to the world we live in and are bringing down the survival rate of humans, but that should not be my problem nor expense.
( on a side note it does look like he is fingering the cat)

The same question above applies to you - do you wear eyeglasses?

Yes I do, and I have a cat


So... you're just as defective as the folks you're ranting about "weakening the gene pool."
2012-07-08 07:31:31 PM
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uatuba: How about those with medical issues take responsibility for them and make sure they eat what is allowed? If I have a chocolate cake allergy, I'm not going to demand that someone figure out a way to provide me with chocolate cake I can eat. The kid has a disease that prevents him from eating lots of different types of foods...guess what, HE'S GOING TO BE LIMITED IN HIS FOOD CHOICES! Life sucks. If he wants special meals, he can prepare them. Otherwise, he needs to eat what he can eat based on what is offered. If the salad bar is there and it's all he can eat, then his medical condition dictates that he's going to be eating at the salad bar.

THAT'S the problem. It's not that people think he's faking. Rather, it's that reasonable people realize that life sucks, that it's sometimes unfair, and that there are all kinds of diseases that affect relatively few people that dictate that those people live somewhat differently than others who aren't likewise afflicted.


The story does not have the kid demanding anything. He and his family are looking for schools and areas that gives him access to these foods.

The fact there are are enough people who want or need gluten free food that it's economically viable to offer.
2012-07-08 07:08:45 PM
1 votes:
It's already been proven several times in studies that nearly 70% of people who believe they have food allergies in fact do not.

Of course none of them believe it. It's all real to them.
As is any neurosis when indulged enough.
2012-07-08 07:08:30 PM
1 votes:
The AMA - and others - have pointed out MORE THAN ONCE that people with gluten allergies equal 1/10th of 1% of the US population.

1% of 300,00,000 = 3,000,000

1/10th of 3,000,000 = 300,000.

It's highly unlikely that your precious snowflake can't tolerate gluten.
2012-07-08 06:50:25 PM
1 votes:
Tunacrab: meat0918: I have no problem with actual tested and diagnosed sufferers of gluten problems. Its the insufferable hangers-on that piss people off, the ones that self diagnose, and have as much placebo/nocebo effect in play as well as paying attention to their diet and cutting out a lot of carbs to account for feeling better.

Yes, this. As a waiter I will bend over backwards to find something to eat for a supposed "gluten allergy" customer. We've sent the dishwasher to the store to pickup gluten free soy sauce, one example... only to find the "allergy sufferer" taking a nibble of their friend's fried, wheat and gluten loaded something-or-another.

I hate when people hide behind "allergies" and "intolerance" when the truth is they simply don't like something or are avoiding carbs. It is frustrating in the service industry, because everyone in the last 5 years has developed these "conditions," and we have to take them all seriously for the one guy out of ten that has a legitimate condition.


In regards to that 10%, I'd like to sincerely thank you for your efforts. My father is medically diagnosed and places like yours putting in the effort make a world of difference to him and the rest of the family who are affected when meals aren't handled correctly.

Best story I heard from him was a restaurant that they mentioned up-front when ordering about his allergies (he usually gets a plain steak and a sauce-less side since that's the easiest to ask for gluten-free), and a minute later the chef came out and started pointing out other items on the menu he might also like and what could be done differently to accommodate him.

And because of that whenever we're in town we go back to that place. Chefs and waiters like that are champions to me.
2012-07-08 06:49:21 PM
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Arthur Jumbles: Sid_6.7: F*ck you, subby. Some people cannot consume gluten without terrifying health problems resulting.

It's not an issue of them being "precious little snowflakes", it's an issue of them lacking the ability to safely consume an extremely common food protein.

How did these people not get selected out of the population with the advent of agriculture?


You don't know much about genetics, do you?

Nature doesn't care if you have agonizing stomach cramps when you eat wheat (or die if you eat peanuts or get stung by a bee) as long as it doesn't affect your ability to breed. Any disorder a human may have, no matter how maladaptive it may SEEM to modern humans, is not relevant so long as it doesn't kill you before you can pass your genes along. So sure, little kids who have celiac disease died young, probably right after being weaned, but a lot of times celiac doesn't show up until later in life. Same way with so-called "life threatening allergies": back in prehistory, people could be carrying all sorts of genes around for peanut allergies, bee allergies, shellfish allergies; but as long as they never encountered that allergan, it would never be an issue. You could be deathly allergic to bee stings, but if you never get stung, why would it matter? And if you get stung after you've successfully reproduced, nature doesn't care about that.

It's only recently that a) people know that eating x causes y reaction ahead of actually doing it, and b) people started not dying from so many diseases that we could split out "celiac related intestinal disorder" from "worm related intestinal disorder" that people asked these questions like Why are there still genes for celiac disease? Because it doesn't kill the person before they can make babies, that's all.
2012-07-08 06:31:15 PM
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Trance750: xanadian: Isn't it strange how much more common things like Celiac are these days? Never heard of gluten intolerance when I was a kid

This. Totally this.


Celiac disease has been around forever- we didn't know what caused it tilll about 70-80 years ago.

"The emergence of celiac disease began 10,000 years ago when humans, previously nomadic, learned about agriculture and started planting seeds and domesticated crops for food. The nomadic diet had been free of gluten up to that point.

Celiac disease was first labeled as such in the first century A.D. when a Greek physician named it after the word for "abdomen," koelia.

In 1887, Samuel Gee, a British physician, attributed the chronic indigestion associated with celiac disease to "errors in diet," yet he did not identify gluten as the source of the problem and often prescribed a diet of toast for his patients. (Good job there Doc!)

Gluten was identified as the trigger for celiac disease following a shortage of bread in the Netherlands after World War II, which caused the death rate among children affected by celiac disease to drop from 35% to zero."

Real celiac is real, self-diagnosed celiac may be real but my bet is on trendy eating disorder.
2012-07-08 06:30:27 PM
1 votes:
There was one kid in our son's 4th grade class who had to be accompanied by a teacher with an EpiPen whenever he went outside. And although kids could bring their own peanut-containing lunches, they could never share and nothing of the sort was allowed for school parties,

Fast forward to the end-of-the-school year party and in conversation with the parents I casually said something like, boy, it's kind of odd that your son is allergic to both bees and peanuts.

"Oh, we've never had him tested, we just don't want to take any chances."
2012-07-08 06:22:58 PM
1 votes:
She says she feels a lot better, but I think that's about as "scientific" as a diagnosis like this gets.

They can do scientific blood tests for antibodies to see if one is reacting to gluten. However a scientific intestinal biopsy (large intestine, I think) is the only positive way to absolutely confirm celiac disease. scientific.
2012-07-08 06:06:57 PM
1 votes:
Sid_6.7: F*ck you, subby. Some people cannot consume gluten without terrifying health problems resulting.

That's evolution telling you that you need to go away.

It's not an issue of them being "precious little snowflakes", it's an issue of them lacking the ability to safely consume an extremely common food protein.

What's the difference again?
2012-07-08 06:00:39 PM
1 votes:
Sid_6.7: F*ck you, subby. Some people cannot consume gluten without terrifying health problems resulting.

It's not an issue of them being "precious little snowflakes", it's an issue of them lacking the ability to safely consume an extremely common food protein.


FTA:
"Celiac disease is an inherited autoimmune disorder that affects at least 3 million Americans"

1%.
So..assuming you have 100 acquaintances, if you know more than 1 'gluten-free' person, most of them are lying/faking.
2012-07-08 05:53:58 PM
1 votes:
People with a genetic inability to digest common foods should not have children much less ask those that can digest those foods just fine to change their eating habits.

YOU make the arrangements for your own access to foods that you can eat, not me.
2012-07-08 05:51:31 PM
1 votes:
the ha ha guy: meat0918: I have no problem with actual tested and diagnosed sufferers of gluten problems. Its the insufferable hangers-on that piss people off, the ones that self diagnose, and have as much placebo/nocebo effect in play as well as paying attention to their diet and cutting out a lot of carbs to account for feeling better.

I have a doctor-diagnosed allergy to shellfish. But thanks to all these self-diagnosed wackos muddying the waters, I just about have to carry a doctor's note with me to convince people to stop trying to trick/force me to eat something with shellfish "because I'll like it".

/Been in the hospital twice due to former "friends" feeding me shellfish
//One "friend" tried to talk his way out of it by saying that he thought I was joking, the other ran off and left me alone after I collapsed in the middle of a restaurant


Anyone try to "trick/force" a certain someone I know to have shellfish..... well, let's say even after pulling me off the asshole, they would have to have us both within secured areas, because I would make it my life's duty to make that person's skull unrecognizable with my bare knuckles..
2012-07-08 05:41:41 PM
1 votes:
upload.wikimedia.org


Your cure for a lot of modern white people autoimmune diseases.


Hook worms
2012-07-08 05:41:34 PM
1 votes:
Coco LaFemme: Some people have legitimate food allergies, and I feel for those people. Other people adopted gluten-free, organic, free range, vegan diets to be trendy, not because if they don't, they'll shiat their intestines out. Those people are annoying. I know someone who makes going out to eat with them absolute hell because they are picky to the point of being absurd about it. They have no medical reason for eating the way they do, they're basically a food hipster.

"We're going to Joes Steakhouse tonight."
"I'm not eating there. You know they don't have X, Y, Z that I MUST eat"
"We're still going?"
"What will I eat?"
"Food. Or starve."
Only way to break these people of this nonsense.

/brother in law is on the whole organic-free range kick
//funnier that his organic garden is next to the neighbors non-organic corn field that is getting sprayed today
2012-07-08 05:39:25 PM
1 votes:
jtown: Gyrfalcon: This kid better start learning that, because not everyone is going to provide him gluten-free food all his life, unless he never leaves his nest.

All of the product labels in stores and gluten-free menus in restaurants kinda contradict your claim. The first world is becoming an easy place to be special.

In the first 35 years of my life, I met exactly one person with Celiac Disease. In the last 5 years, I've met half a dozen people who claim to be gluten intolerant. But I've never heard a single one of those people say Celiac Disease and I've seen several of them eat plenty of gluten. FWIW, my vegetarian friends often eat meat when it's just two of us having lunch or dinner. In a group: "I haven't eaten meat in 5 years." "I haven't eaten meat in 11 years." Just me and 1 friend: "This place has the best steak sandwich!" (Which they then order and consume with great relish.)


I know two people who are full blown celiac, and my wife (and an employee) who are gluten intolerant. My wife developed it a couple of years back. We couldn't figure out why she was having massive stomach cramps and painful squirts on an almost daily basis and this was the root cause.

People who go gluten free for percieved "health" reasons are asshats.
2012-07-08 05:22:09 PM
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TKM: How does this kind of thing get passed along?

I've very rarely been tempted by any kind of disease ridden hotty who can read the NYT Sunday edition during an average constitutional.

I have seen some disturbing German videos though.....


I read an article that Celiac has a lot to do with being of Irish heritage and probably came into being during the potato famine.

/If I don't have an anal prolapse and my legs don't go numb by the time I'm done with my morning BM I just don't feel right.
2012-07-08 05:12:30 PM
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downtownkid: jaytkay: In the past 5 years I've had 20 acquaintances decide they are "gluten intolerant".

They're mostly the same people who were anorexic as teens.

And they think vaccines make them sick

And lately they need to undergo an expensive cleanse to rid their bodies of toxins.

And a lot of their kids are allergic to peanuts and shellfish (although they've never had a reaction)

/ No, I am not simply a hater, I also have two friends with actual Celiac's and I've spent a couple of evenings in Emergency with my brother-in-law who has a genuine severe peanut allergy

I bet you have a lot of black friends too.


I have a lot of hypochondriac friends.
2012-07-08 05:03:06 PM
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Midnight Rambler: [stmedia.startribune.com image 630x420]
Max Timmons' parents share a laugh with their son, unaware that it was Max, and not Mittens, who accidentally broke one of the eight Franklin Mint plates proudly displayed on the wall. Max's awkward attempt at replacing the plate with Mitten's red water dish was successful.


Effing tremendous.
2012-07-08 05:02:01 PM
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downstairs: EmmaLou: I work with a girl who says she's allergic to gluten. She cannot be around it in any form. Even being in the vicinity of a donut makes her sick. Obviously myself and my other sane co-workers think her problem is mental and probably somewhat related to her hair pulling/eating.

Oh, it most certainly is total BS. Even the worst gluten alergies are not like severe peanut allergies. You can hang out in a bakery all day... just don't eat the stuff that includes gluten.

Peanut allergies affect you if you come into contact with it anywhere in your body, or if you breathe it in.

Gluten allergies affect you when the stuff hits your guts.


We all know that. That's why she's just so damned difficult to work with. Another co-worker (who is also a friend of mine) can't eat soy, but you wouldn't know it (because she's not all dramatica about it.)
2012-07-08 04:56:00 PM
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And 100% of human beings have "problems." My family has a predisposition toward one serious mental illness (which is why I wish members of my family would stop breeding). Only a tiny percentage of them have diseases that are, literally, life altering and could be deadly under the right conditions. A bit different from wanting kids that look like a faux representation of Jesus.

To be fair, though, medical science is incredible. There is a very good chance that we'll have "cures" (for each individual) or such problems at some point. Hell, if they can do a "colon bacteria transplant" or whatever the name was, medical science is on the cusp of other breakthroughs.
2012-07-08 04:51:23 PM
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puffy999: downstairs: Horray for eugenics!

I assume you have nothing bad you'd pass on to your kids? Because 99% of people do, even if its minor.

Call me a cynic, but I don't see the world always working so that every person can eat anything they want all the time. At some point, the world will go back to slightly more localized, natural foods (as opposed to buying any exotic product one can think of and processing any "bad" stuff out of it), at which time wheat will once again become (as it should be) North America's staple crop.

But sticking to your argument, if you had a condition that would kill any offspring you may have by the age of five or ten, you'd have kids? Just for teh lulz? Only slightly more acceptable, what about a genetic condition that would result in your children being in pain throughout much of their lives? Just so YOU could have kids? I mean, that seems... horrible. And selfish.

Incidentally, eugenics are forced. You can go ahead and continue to pollute the human gene pool with digestive problems all you want, because that's exactly the same as, say, Hitler.


Do you wear eyeglasses? Do you have someone in your family who does?
2012-07-08 04:51:08 PM
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parityanimal: The cat has a name too. They took his picture, so why isn't he named in the article? Totally unfair to the cat, who is also part of the family.

The cat asked the photographer not to use his name.
2012-07-08 04:51:01 PM
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pedobearapproved: On the other hand I know more than a few gluten "sensitive" people and the effects they claim ranging from being bloated (eww yuck), to being tired. In other words they ate a big meal of pizza and suddenly they feel bad....

Hey I ate some beans and got gassy, I don't suddenly need a bean free diet do I? The same thing happened with undercooked rice. Maybe I should start a "woe" is me support group.


Again, its all how people handle it socially. If beans make you feel bad, sure... quit eating them. But, yeah, don't constantly biatch about it for attention... and don't give people dirty looks when they dare to serve beans at a party.

Personally, I'm getting to the point where beer... any beer... makes me feel bloated. I still drink though. A lot. If I go to a party and there's only beer, I don't throw a hissy fit.

I do know people that do, though.
2012-07-08 04:50:34 PM
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One Bad Apple: I wonder if I could "weaponize" powdered or aerosol gluten and just fly a crop duster around until all the whining stops. It isn't my fault nature has selected you for extinction.

As long as you didn't call it wheat gluten most people wouldn't be affected.
2012-07-08 04:48:40 PM
1 votes:
The cat has a name too. They took his picture, so why isn't he named in the article? Totally unfair to the cat, who is also part of the family.
2012-07-08 04:48:16 PM
1 votes:
FriarReb98: Bathia_Mapes: I wish someone could explain why I suddenly developed allergies to both peanuts and shellfish when I was around 16-years old. Ate both with no problems before then, and BAM, got two new allergies within months of each other.

I grew up in the 50s & 60s and was constantly playing outside, getting dirty, etc., just as any average child of the time did.

Like I said, it's something in the processing. Some random preservative derivative that just out and out farks with one's enzymatic chemistry. Don't get me wrong, I feel bad for people that have it, but it's just...farking bizarre is what it is.


No it's not. Most allergies result from hypersensitization of the immune response. They develop over time. Mapes has a hyper immune system.
2012-07-08 04:47:25 PM
1 votes:
Sid_6.7: F*ck you, subby. Some people cannot consume gluten without terrifying health problems resulting.

It's not an issue of them being "precious little snowflakes", it's an issue of them lacking the ability to safely consume an extremely common food protein.


I wonder why the increase. Has it been mis diagnosed or have they genetically ruined the crops.
2012-07-08 04:45:04 PM
1 votes:
xanadian: Isn't it strange how much more common things like Celiac are these days? Never heard of gluten intolerance when I was a kid--either diagnosed or "hell, why do I crap hot-and-sour soup when I eat bread?"

There is a huge difference between an allergy and an intolerance of a food. Not many people are allergic to lactose in milk but lots of people are intolerant and crap hot & sour soup after consumption. Most claimed allergies are just intolerance where it upsets their stomach but people are idiots and call it an allergy.
2012-07-08 04:44:08 PM
1 votes:
the ha ha guy: meat0918: I have no problem with actual tested and diagnosed sufferers of gluten problems. Its the insufferable hangers-on that piss people off, the ones that self diagnose, and have as much placebo/nocebo effect in play as well as paying attention to their diet and cutting out a lot of carbs to account for feeling better.

I have a doctor-diagnosed allergy to shellfish. But thanks to all these self-diagnosed wackos muddying the waters, I just about have to carry a doctor's note with me to convince people to stop trying to trick/force me to eat something with shellfish "because I'll like it".

/Been in the hospital twice due to former "friends" feeding me shellfish
//One "friend" tried to talk his way out of it by saying that he thought I was joking, the other ran off and left me alone after I collapsed in the middle of a restaurant


If someone tells me they have the "OMG I'll die allergies" I'll take them at their word, and would never knowingly give them an allergen.

Oddly, the only people I know with gluten problems are tested and diagnosed. They only let me know in passing, because they were talking about how sick they are of people claiming things like "Going gluten free cured my cancer".
2012-07-08 04:43:18 PM
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Ishidan: I have in my mind a food item that was once considered THE staple of cheap American lunch fare.

It is now the ultimate thing you cannot serve, for every ingredient is offensive to somebody.

Can you guess what it is?

Yes. The peanut butter and jelly sandwich on Wonder bread.

Offensive to those with peanut allergies, diabeetus, and celiac disease. The perfect triple threat of offensiveness.


I would love to be able to eat PB&J sandwich on Wonder Bread again. Or eat a Reese's Peanut Butter Cup. Or some of my grandma's homemade peanut butter cookies.

Haven't had any of those in over 40 years. :-(

Almond & cashew butters are okay, but they're not as good as peanut butter.
2012-07-08 04:31:06 PM
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The My Little Pony Killer: BrainyBear: meat0918: I have no problem with actual tested and diagnosed sufferers of gluten problems. Its the insufferable hangers-on that piss people off, the ones that self diagnose, and have as much placebo/nocebo effect in play as well as paying attention to their diet and cutting out a lot of carbs to account for feeling better.

The "actual tested and diagnosed" part is where it's tricky, though -- there's no equivalent of a home pregnancy test that gives you a simple plus or minus.

A friend of mine thought she was having reproductive problems but when the physician couldn't uncover anything wrong, they experimented with her diet to see if cutting out gluten made a difference. She says she feels a lot better, but I think that's about as "scientific" as a diagnosis like this gets.

It's not just simply cutting out gluten though. It's going back to a very very basic diet, waiting for symptoms to dissipate, and then slowly adding foods back into your diet and waiting for another reaction to happen. If your friend simply cut out gluten and that was that, then she and her doctor did it wrong.


There's a problem here in that some people define a gluten sensitivity with absurdly nonspecific, subjective symptoms, including weight loss or gain, aching, depression, etc.

This type of gluten sensitivity ISN'T science. I'm not even saying that it's impossible for gluten sensitivity to cause depression. I'm saying that unless you manage a double-blind test for EACH PATIENT's diagnosis, this is an inherently unscientific diagnostic procedure.
2012-07-08 04:30:49 PM
1 votes:
In the past 5 years I've had 20 acquaintances decide they are "gluten intolerant".

They're mostly the same people who were anorexic as teens.

And they think vaccines make them sick

And lately they need to undergo an expensive cleanse to rid their bodies of toxins.

And a lot of their kids are allergic to peanuts and shellfish (although they've never had a reaction)

/ No, I am not simply a hater, I also have two friends with actual Celiac's and I've spent a couple of evenings in Emergency with my brother-in-law who has a genuine severe peanut allergy
2012-07-08 04:27:21 PM
1 votes:
I don't see why the college has to provide food if it is that specialized. Even if it is a medical condition that doesn't change the fact he should look for other places for food. And it looks like that is what he was doing, Chinese food is what he is looking for, let him eat that.
2012-07-08 04:18:08 PM
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For the vast majority of people who want to be on a gluten-free diet because of some problem they seem to have, they likely have another problem (ie: they don't eat enough f*cking fiber). Gluten-free is the hipster's version of a peanut allergy insofar that most people who claim to have problems are not nearly bad as they let on. A coworker, though, has a pretty bad time of it. He's severely allergic to a number of foods, though, so he has to have a restrictive diet or he'll be in the hospital.

I have a digestive problem with certain processed wheat products. Guess what? When I eat whole wheat that's not mixed with a bunch of other non-whole grain shiat or processed and reconstituted into some completely abstract structure, I have no such problem. Maybe some people could try that before saying "I can NEVER consume one red wheat berry or my asshole will turn inside-out."
2012-07-08 04:16:39 PM
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There's a big difference between going gluten free out of necessity & going gluten free by choice.
2012-07-08 04:14:11 PM
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LurkinFarker: xiola: Celiac disease is not a "gluen intolerance". That poor kid doesn't realize asian food is packed with gluten. He'll be peeing from his ass all semester. Best advice for him is learn to cook.

Indian (excepting bread) and Thai tends to be totally gluten free. Otherwise, yeah, good luck with that, kid.

/my wife has Celiac disease so I'm getting a kick etc


Exactly. Thai and indian are great, Chinese and japanese are particularly bad. all the soy, oyster, mushroom, etc sauces contain gluten. you can even buy jars of "gluten" in chinese groceries to make seitan style vegetarian dishes that would have me sitting on the toilet for weeks. Celiacs should stay away.

Mexican is usually ok too. Horray for corn tortillas!
2012-07-08 04:13:33 PM
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It's an inherited disease, stop breeding, problem solved.
2012-07-08 04:05:01 PM
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jaytkay: Bathia_Mapes: I wish someone could explain why I suddenly developed allergies to both peanuts and shellfish when I was around 16-years old.

Because you're white and middle-to-upper-middle class?

/ Or maybe you really have allergies
// But for most...white people problems


Nope. Not even middle class growing up.
2012-07-08 04:04:35 PM
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I wonder if I could "weaponize" powdered or aerosol gluten and just fly a crop duster around until all the whining stops. It isn't my fault nature has selected you for extinction.
2012-07-08 03:55:28 PM
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BrainyBear: meat0918: I have no problem with actual tested and diagnosed sufferers of gluten problems. Its the insufferable hangers-on that piss people off, the ones that self diagnose, and have as much placebo/nocebo effect in play as well as paying attention to their diet and cutting out a lot of carbs to account for feeling better.

The "actual tested and diagnosed" part is where it's tricky, though -- there's no equivalent of a home pregnancy test that gives you a simple plus or minus.

A friend of mine thought she was having reproductive problems but when the physician couldn't uncover anything wrong, they experimented with her diet to see if cutting out gluten made a difference. She says she feels a lot better, but I think that's about as "scientific" as a diagnosis like this gets.


It's not just simply cutting out gluten though. It's going back to a very very basic diet, waiting for symptoms to dissipate, and then slowly adding foods back into your diet and waiting for another reaction to happen. If your friend simply cut out gluten and that was that, then she and her doctor did it wrong.
2012-07-08 03:50:18 PM
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meat0918: The My Little Pony Killer: Sid_6.7: F*ck you, subby. Some people cannot consume gluten without terrifying health problems resulting.

It's not an issue of them being "precious little snowflakes", it's an issue of them lacking the ability to safely consume an extremely common food protein.

This.

Though I have to cut the "trendies" a bit of slack as their demand is helping to bring out more gluten-free options for those who actually NEED them.

Yeah.

I have no problem with actual tested and diagnosed sufferers of gluten problems. Its the insufferable hangers-on that piss people off, the ones that self diagnose, and have as much placebo/nocebo effect in play as well as paying attention to their diet and cutting out a lot of carbs to account for feeling better.


Yup, and until I can tell which one somebody actually is, I'm going to give them the benefit of the doubt.

Of course, once I find out that you don't eat gluten because it makes your stomach seem flat, I'm going to laugh at you. All that happened was you stopped eating food that make you gassy. Gas is the least of any celiac's troubles when they eat gluten.
2012-07-08 03:42:18 PM
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FriarReb98: xanadian: Isn't it strange how much more common things like Celiac are these days? Never heard of gluten intolerance when I was a kid--either diagnosed or "hell, why do I crap hot-and-sour soup when I eat bread?"

There's something in our processing or something to do with what we use to eat with. The people who figure it out will get Nobel Prizes and probably ruin 99% of junk food for everyone.


It could be one of the pesticides (preservatives) that we started using in the 50's. Or HFCS.
2012-07-08 03:42:14 PM
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Toshiro Mifune's Letter Opener: Subby, you will receive many responses calling you a dick.

This is one of them.


Concurs:

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2012-07-08 03:38:02 PM
1 votes:
The terrorists won when they started to ban PB&J sandwiches in schools.
2012-07-08 02:42:12 PM
1 votes:
The US needs more glutton-free options.
2012-07-08 02:16:31 PM
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Midnight Rambler: Max Timmons' parents share a laugh with their son, unaware that it was Max, and not Mittens, who accidentally broke one of the eight Franklin Mint plates proudly displayed on the wall. Max's awkward attempt at replacing the plate with Mitten's red water dish was successful.

Well played, sir.
2012-07-08 01:53:36 PM
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Max Timmons' parents share a laugh with their son, unaware that it was Max, and not Mittens, who accidentally broke one of the eight Franklin Mint plates proudly displayed on the wall. Max's awkward attempt at replacing the plate with Mitten's red water dish was successful.
2012-07-08 01:37:05 PM
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Isn't it strange how much more common things like Celiac are these days? Never heard of gluten intolerance when I was a kid--either diagnosed or "hell, why do I crap hot-and-sour soup when I eat bread?"
2012-07-08 12:16:21 PM
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stmedia.startribune.com
Am I the only one who burst out laughing when seeing this?

Wonder if the cat is Gluten free?
2012-07-08 11:52:05 AM
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Charge double and mark everything gluten free, problem solved.
 
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