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(The Planetary Society)   Detailed article on the second-by-second details of how the Mars Science Laboratory dubbed "Curiosity" will hopefully Land on Mars via a "skycrane." Ferb, I know what we are going to do today   (planetary.org) divider line 67
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2012-07-08 12:00:19 PM  
Has it gotten more complicated than the last time we heard about it?
 
2012-07-08 01:09:19 PM  
All of this technology to get a highly sophisticated robot science lab onto another planet and the last few seconds consist of "uhh let's lower it by rope" haha

Wish I could see it. Should be awesome. I'm sure they know what they're doing. I hope the orbiter can get a good picture like that article says.
 
2012-07-08 01:16:57 PM  
It's a funny idea, we're gonna land something the size of a Mini Cooper on Mars using a cable and very careful timing.

But if it works, Curiosity's gonna be the shiat. Nothing against the other rovers, but this is an order of magnitude bigger.
 
2012-07-08 01:17:21 PM  
It'll probably take pictures of Elon Musk's condo, right?
 
2012-07-08 01:18:50 PM  
Hey. Where's Perry?
 
2012-07-08 01:18:53 PM  
Hey, where's Perry?
 
2012-07-08 01:19:38 PM  

Darkwing: Hey. Where's Perry?


Scooped by three seconds! CURSE YOU PERRY THE PLATYPUS!!!
 
2012-07-08 01:20:49 PM  

Quantum Apostrophe: It'll probably take pictures of Elon Musk's condo, right?


Just stick a sock in it, okay? Nobody's started talking about exploring the galaxy here. We're talking about actual technology that's actually been launched into an actual trajectory that will actually get to Mars within your short and dwindling lifetime, so just chill the fark out.
 
2012-07-08 01:29:35 PM  
Rube Goldberg, to the white courtesy phone.
 
2012-07-08 01:39:46 PM  

theorellior: Quantum Apostrophe: It'll probably take pictures of Elon Musk's condo, right?

Just stick a sock in it, okay? Nobody's started talking about exploring the galaxy here. We're talking about actual technology that's actually been launched into an actual trajectory that will actually get to Mars within your short and dwindling lifetime, so just chill the fark out.


Yay. Pictures of rocks. I am on tenterhooks.
 
2012-07-08 01:40:41 PM  

Durendal: Darkwing: Hey. Where's Perry?

Scooped by three seconds! CURSE YOU PERRY THE PLATYPUS!!!


I know we're probably grown men but the fact we referenced this show makes me smile.
 
2012-07-08 01:44:49 PM  

fustanella: Rube Goldberg, to the white courtesy phone.


I loved the balloon system because of how simple it sounded (even tho it was probably a nightmare when you consider the details of wiring up a giant airbag). Its probably not viable with such a large rover this time.
When they mentioned the dust problem, something the last three rovers avoided because of the airbags, the skycrane makes alot of sense... but its still scary-complicated.

Just imagine the fun that happens when they start talking about landing hundred ton manned habitats.
 
2012-07-08 01:46:32 PM  

Durendal: Darkwing: Hey. Where's Perry?

Scooped by three seconds! CURSE YOU PERRY THE PLATYPUS!!!


www.joe-ks.com

/hot like pedobear hiding in Candice's closet
 
2012-07-08 01:47:30 PM  
What is that? Oh, what's that? What's that? What is that? Ooh, that thing has numbers on it.
 
2012-07-08 01:51:10 PM  

Quantum Apostrophe: Yay. Pictures of rocks. I am on tenterhooks.


You need to tell the guy holding a gun to your head that he doesn't really need to force you to read space threads. Maybe he could go play golf or something more constructive.
 
2012-07-08 01:53:01 PM  
OK, that's bad-add but it's a shame they can't land a camera below first so we could have video of the landing.
 
2012-07-08 01:55:39 PM  
Hey people.

What'cha dooooooin?
 
2012-07-08 01:58:19 PM  

theorellior: You need to tell the guy holding a gun to your head that he doesn't really need to force you to read space threads. Maybe he could go play golf or something more constructive.


I think that Neil Armstrong and Buzz Aldrin cuckolded Quantum Apostrophe's wife and mother at the same time while he was forced to watch. There's no other explanation.
 
2012-07-08 02:03:54 PM  

Fluorescent Testicle: I think that Neil Armstrong and Buzz Aldrin cuckolded Quantum Apostrophe's wife and mother at the same time while he was forced to watch. There's no other explanation.


Yes, there is. He's terrified of dying and thinks that any money not spent of life extension research is denying him immortality.
 
2012-07-08 02:04:30 PM  
I'm not entirely convinced this method is justified. Their primary excuse for this landing technique is avoiding contamination of the landing site with rocket exhaust. HELLO, IT'S A ROVER! It can drive away from a contaminated landing site.

I would have preferred a Viking variant with wheels instead of landing pads. Unused fuel could have easily been disposed of by making the fuel tanks and engines droppable. Drop the tanks/engines after landing and drive away.

Somebody high up in the organization got a hard on for this skycrane approach, and started inventing justifications for using it.

Most of EDL looks solid, except for the skycrane bit. Pity they couldn't drop science packages instead of inert weights.

I hope it works, but I still give it a 50/50 chance.
 
2012-07-08 02:09:31 PM  

mark12A: I hope it works, but I still give it a 50/50 chance.


I'm rootin' for the little rover. Hope he makes it.
 
2012-07-08 02:12:29 PM  

mark12A: I'm not entirely convinced this method is justified. Their primary excuse for this landing technique is avoiding contamination of the landing site with rocket exhaust. HELLO, IT'S A ROVER! It can drive away from a contaminated landing site.

I would have preferred a Viking variant with wheels instead of landing pads. Unused fuel could have easily been disposed of by making the fuel tanks and engines droppable. Drop the tanks/engines after landing and drive away.

Somebody high up in the organization got a hard on for this skycrane approach, and started inventing justifications for using it.

Most of EDL looks solid, except for the skycrane bit. Pity they couldn't drop science packages instead of inert weights.

I hope it works, but I still give it a 50/50 chance.


it's not the exhaust as much as the dust that would get kicked up and settle on everything. (think solar panels, mostly)
 
2012-07-08 02:14:04 PM  
Someone wants to know what we're going to do today?
bestuff.com
 
2012-07-08 02:16:22 PM  
it's not the exhaust as much as the dust that would get kicked up and settle on everything. (think solar panels, mostly)

No solar panels. This sucker's nuclear!

And dust covers for the cameras/instruments aren't hard to do....
 
2012-07-08 02:26:15 PM  
7 Minutes of Terror
5 min. NASA clip explaining the landing (about 4 mins in for my dust point)
 
2012-07-08 02:27:28 PM  

Mrtraveler01: Durendal: Darkwing: Hey. Where's Perry?

Scooped by three seconds! CURSE YOU PERRY THE PLATYPUS!!!

I know we're probably grown men but the fact we referenced this show makes me smile.


Well, my kid likes the show. I find it amusing. I don't sit and watch it by myself, but I'll watch a little if he is. Funny show. Hell, if the bronies can post their show everywhere, I think we're entitled to a few other references.
 
2012-07-08 02:28:25 PM  

theorellior: Yes, there is. He's terrified of dying and thinks that any money not spent of life extension research is denying him immortality.


Which probably makes it really easy to needle him.
 
2012-07-08 02:29:13 PM  

mark12A: it's not the exhaust as much as the dust that would get kicked up and settle on everything. (think solar panels, mostly)

No solar panels. This sucker's nuclear!

And dust covers for the cameras/instruments aren't hard to do....


I forgot about the nuke part, still they were worried enough about the dust to land it this way.
 
2012-07-08 02:46:48 PM  

sno man: mark12A: it's not the exhaust as much as the dust that would get kicked up and settle on everything. (think solar panels, mostly)

No solar panels. This sucker's nuclear!

And dust covers for the cameras/instruments aren't hard to do....

I forgot about the nuke part, still they were worried enough about the dust to land it this way.


I believe the issue was potential dust on the camera lenses.
 
2012-07-08 03:05:26 PM  

theorellior: Fluorescent Testicle: I think that Neil Armstrong and Buzz Aldrin cuckolded Quantum Apostrophe's wife and mother at the same time while he was forced to watch. There's no other explanation.

Yes, there is. He's terrified of dying and thinks that any money not spent of life extension research is denying him immortality.


There's a solution to that...

img96.imageshack.us
 
2012-07-08 03:21:11 PM  
I'm not a scientist nor do I play one on TV.

I'm just a guy who likes science in general, astronomy in particular and thinks that NASA should be given every single penny it asks for.

Having said that I, an un-knowledgeable civilian, thinks this is going to turn out to be the biggest cock-up in NASA's history.

I know, I know. NASA and its subcontractors are all smart people who have thought this through 6 ways from Sunday to make sure it works.

I have only one response: they are also the group that put in feet for meters on that probe a few years back and we all know how that ended.

Here's to wishing them a successful launch, flight and landing.
 
2012-07-08 03:23:52 PM  
Meh.
 
2012-07-08 03:25:43 PM  
It's a good thing mars doesn't have giant cats. They'd smack the shiat out of that thing.
 
2012-07-08 03:28:52 PM  

way south: Meh.


Misplaced :"Meh".
My bad.
 
2012-07-08 03:37:23 PM  
As I whine about my life and predicament, I read about this and am in awe of the folks doing this. I am a better person to be part of the human race to see stuff like this even being attempted.


Imagine the staff meeting where these concepts were discussed!

/a parachute? cables? WTF?
 
2012-07-08 04:04:09 PM  
the great thing here is we have two rovers on the ground for years that have given us a lot of data on the surface area.

so, i'm guessing the amount of dust is a valid concern (even though I don't understand it).

what I'm really excited about is we have a nuke powered investigating machine that has all the advantages we've learned from our previous runs.

humans are awesome.
 
2012-07-08 04:13:29 PM  
bobsegarini.files.wordpress.com

Good luck Rover. We're all counting on you.
 
2012-07-08 04:14:01 PM  

Durendal: theorellior: Fluorescent Testicle: I think that Neil Armstrong and Buzz Aldrin cuckolded Quantum Apostrophe's wife and mother at the same time while he was forced to watch. There's no other explanation.

Yes, there is. He's terrified of dying and thinks that any money not spent of life extension research is denying him immortality.

There's a solution to that...

[img96.imageshack.us image 366x395]


Man, one thing I never did like about Dr. Who is that it seemed to have a hard stance of 'mechanical modification of one's body is BAD!" There were the Cybermen, Humans, and there was never really any in-between state, if I remember right.
 
2012-07-08 05:03:46 PM  

theorellior: It's a funny idea, we're gonna land something the size of a Mini Cooper on Mars using a cable and very careful timing.

But if it works, Curiosity's gonna be the shiat. Nothing against the other rovers, but this is an order of magnitude bigger.


Not sure why, but when I read your comment I was greatly amused at the thought of Curiosity accidentally landing on top of one the rovers.
 
2012-07-08 05:05:03 PM  
This landing will suck no matter what happens.

If it fails, we lose our expensive toy.
If it succeeds, other missions will have to land this way.
 
2012-07-08 06:03:42 PM  

mark12A: I'm not entirely convinced this method is justified. Their primary excuse for this landing technique is avoiding contamination of the landing site with rocket exhaust. HELLO, IT'S A ROVER! It can drive away from a contaminated landing site.


You know, if you can think of such a simple solution in a second off the top of your head then you can be pretty damn sure that one of the hundreds of engineers and scientists working on the project of the last decade might have thought of it too. Thus the thought that there must be a problem with what took you one second to think up should come within another second.

It is not contamination of the landing site that is of concern, it is contamination of the rover itself. And to be more accurate, it is contamination of the rover's elaborate array of scientific equipment. As wonderful as Spirit was and Opportunity continues to be, they have only have a small number of crude instruments. With Curiosity, they are landing a mini-lab to Mars: as much as weight and budge limitations allow.
 
2012-07-08 06:45:25 PM  

Durendal: Mrtraveler01: Durendal: Darkwing: Hey. Where's Perry?

Scooped by three seconds! CURSE YOU PERRY THE PLATYPUS!!!

I know we're probably grown men but the fact we referenced this show makes me smile.

Well, my kid likes the show. I find it amusing. I don't sit and watch it by myself, but I'll watch a little if he is. Funny show. Hell, if the bronies can post their show everywhere, I think we're entitled to a few other references.


The fact that it's made by the same people who made Rocko's Modern Life makes me feel a little less guilty about watching it.

Beats 99% of the other crap that's on Disney and Nickelodeon these days.
 
2012-07-08 06:55:58 PM  
Add me to the chorus saying that I wish NASA all the best and hope that this works out perfectly.

Also add me to the chorus saying that this Rube-Goldberg landing technique appears far more complicated than it needs to be. A simpler landing solution would have been better.

Personally I give us 1 chance in 3.

farm9.staticflickr.com
 
2012-07-08 06:59:37 PM  
More appropriate tag:

img1.fark.net

/Hope it works....
 
2012-07-08 07:27:44 PM  
Mars you say?

i49.tinypic.com
The song is here.
 
2012-07-08 07:56:15 PM  
There's a tiny, tiny, tiny nearly infinitesimal chance that I could be in the control room when this happens.
 
2012-07-08 08:02:02 PM  

timujin: There's a tiny, tiny, tiny nearly infinitesimal chance that I could be in the control room when this happens.


Prepare your geek dance.
The world is watching.
 
2012-07-08 09:06:08 PM  
Remember, it's a NASA tradition to eat penis while your spacecraft goes out of radio contact for a dicey maneuver.
 
2012-07-08 09:43:13 PM  

Felgraf: Durendal: theorellior: Fluorescent Testicle: I think that Neil Armstrong and Buzz Aldrin cuckolded Quantum Apostrophe's wife and mother at the same time while he was forced to watch. There's no other explanation.

Yes, there is. He's terrified of dying and thinks that any money not spent of life extension research is denying him immortality.

There's a solution to that...

[img96.imageshack.us image 366x395]

Man, one thing I never did like about Dr. Who is that it seemed to have a hard stance of 'mechanical modification of one's body is BAD!" There were the Cybermen, Humans, and there was never really any in-between state, if I remember right.


I could imagine (although I don't know for sure) that some of the early "Doctor Who" authors might have wanted to do something more akin to "Ghost In The Shell" with the Cybermen, but I don't think they could have made it work given their limited costume budget. Consider the original appearance of the Cyberman:

images.wikia.com

If you tried to make someone look like a hybrid between that and a normal human, it would look totally ridiculous even by the lax standards of 1960's special effects. And even with better costumes, the topic might be considered "too cerebral" for the show's target audience, both then and now.
 
2012-07-08 09:57:48 PM  

timujin: There's a tiny, tiny, tiny nearly infinitesimal chance that I could be in the control room when this happens.


Damn you! I'll just be happy to be on lab.
 
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