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(Newser)   Ten ways Wal-Mart changed our lives, basically for the better   (newser.com) divider line 90
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2012-07-08 12:11:38 AM  
After the whole slideshow, I'll say the tubeless toilet paper roll is probably the only benefit, and that wasn't an item on the slideshow. Everything else is a nod to efficiency at the expense of everything else, which isn't always better.

I'm sure some people like being able to throw away a broken item because it's cheaper to buy new, but to me that's just sad.
 
2012-07-08 12:55:21 AM  

Lsherm: After the whole slideshow, I'll say the tubeless toilet paper roll is probably the only benefit, and that wasn't an item on the slideshow. Everything else is a nod to efficiency at the expense of everything else, which isn't always better.

I'm sure some people like being able to throw away a broken item because it's cheaper to buy new, but to me that's just sad.


My mom had the same damn VCR for nearly 20 years. Everytime it broke she took it to a repair shop to get it fixed. Now, I am not even sure I could find anyone in the tri-state area who even fixes a broken DVD player.
 
2012-07-08 12:56:00 AM  
I only counted four on the page you linked to subby. Why u make me click extra to rtfa?

Anyways:
11) The people of Walmart.
 
2012-07-08 01:31:22 AM  
Um, that was only four.
 
2012-07-08 01:37:18 AM  
The fact that there exists a people of walmart website tends to negate any arguments as to its benefit as a whole
 
2012-07-08 01:46:09 AM  

TsarTom: Anyways:
11) The people of Walmart.


Time to throw some recent ones on here.

media.peopleofwalmart.com

media.peopleofwalmart.com

media.peopleofwalmart.com
 
2012-07-08 01:49:42 AM  

12349876: TsarTom: Anyways:
11) The people of Walmart.

Time to throw some recent ones on here.

[media.peopleofwalmart.com image 600x375]

[media.peopleofwalmart.com image 600x375]

[media.peopleofwalmart.com image 600x375]


You didn't get the flag suit guys... damn, what a fashion statement

/the statement being I AM BWANA DORK
 
2012-07-08 02:00:46 AM  

cman: Lsherm: After the whole slideshow, I'll say the tubeless toilet paper roll is probably the only benefit, and that wasn't an item on the slideshow. Everything else is a nod to efficiency at the expense of everything else, which isn't always better.

I'm sure some people like being able to throw away a broken item because it's cheaper to buy new, but to me that's just sad.

My mom had the same damn VCR for nearly 20 years. Everytime it broke she took it to a repair shop to get it fixed. Now, I am not even sure I could find anyone in the tri-state area who even fixes a broken DVD player.


I'm sure you're being facetious, but a broken DVD player wouldn't even be worth fixing in the first place, the disc reader assembly is pretty damn delicate, and even if it could be fixed, it'd cost you more in parts and labor than it would to buy a new one. 30 Years ago, VCR's still set you back a few hundred bucks, and were mostly just mechanical machines and could be fixed if damaged. Most consumer electronics today is all Chinese made junk that's completely soldered together and couldn't be fixed if you wanted to.

What I want to is wtf is going to happen with all the useless CRT Television Sets and Computer Monitors littering the shelves of Thrift Stores across the country and Basements everywhere. That's going to be one huge ass landfill.
 
2012-07-08 02:02:40 AM  

cman: Now, I am not even sure I could find anyone in the tri-state area who even fixes a broken DVD player.


When's the last time you had one break? Disc players have about 6 moving parts. If something goes wrong it's probably going to be at the circuit level and you'll throw money down the hole before finding the problem.

That "cheap" $100 disc player is a much simpler device than that $700 (CPI adjusted $2500) VCR from 1978.

s-ak.buzzfed.com
 
2012-07-08 02:04:03 AM  
Someday we (the proles) will all work for wal-mart or their ilk. And tenpoundsofderp and HIS ilk will cheer in the salt mines next to us.
 
2012-07-08 02:12:55 AM  
A link that sends me to another link that sends me to a slideshow?

Bad subby. Bad.
 
2012-07-08 02:26:24 AM  

Grables'Daughter: Um, that was only four.


You had to follow the link in the article that took you to the real article.
 
2012-07-08 02:27:04 AM  

inclemency: Someday we (the proles) will all work for wal-mart or their ilk. And tenpoundsofderp and HIS ilk will cheer in the salt mines next to us.



Not me, I'm gonna work for Brawndo!


/Brawndo, The Thirst Mutilator
//It's got what plants crave
///electrolyte slashies
 
2012-07-08 04:01:38 AM  
Personally, I am not a fan of Walmart or it's policies. They are destructive.
 
2012-07-08 04:02:26 AM  
Wal-Mart's relentless pursuit of lower prices has promoted a culture that neglects and even mistreats its workforce.

Woooooo! USA! USA! USA!
 
2012-07-08 06:24:40 AM  
Wal Mart forces small and medium size manufacturers out of business unless they relocate their factories overseas in order to meet their impossible pricing policies. Their buying power eliminates any smaller retailers unfortunate enough to be located anywhere near them. They replace good jobs and small businesses with jobs that pay only slightly above the minimum wage.

They are a shining example of why pure, unfettered capitalism is not a good thing. I stopped shopping there years ago.
 
2012-07-08 06:59:12 AM  

12349876: TsarTom: Anyways:
11) The people of Walmart.

Time to throw some recent ones on here.

[media.peopleofwalmart.com image 600x375]

[media.peopleofwalmart.com image 600x375]

[media.peopleofwalmart.com image 600x375]


The plural of anecdote isn't data. Especially when the anecdotes are hand picked to make a certain point.
 
2012-07-08 07:07:21 AM  
I am sorry, but in what world do items such as "decline of the labor movement" and "culture of overconsumption" represent a change for the better?

Most of the items that aren't outright drawbacks are at the very least double edged. Their supplier partnerships for example are no doubt an innovation and unprecedented in the retail sector, they are negotiating from such a position of strength that to find a precedent you would have to look at the business practices of organized crime.
 
2012-07-08 07:14:31 AM  

Tor_Eckman: Wal Mart forces small and medium size manufacturers out of business unless they relocate their factories overseas in order to meet their impossible pricing policies. Their buying power eliminates any smaller retailers unfortunate enough to be located anywhere near them. They replace good jobs and small businesses with jobs that pay only slightly above the minimum wage.

They are a shining example of why pure, unfettered capitalism is not a good thing. I stopped shopping there years ago.


It isn't Walmart's fault. The American consumer proved to them that they were willing to drive across town to save $0.05 on a widget. It was natural that (after the death of Sam) management would find ways to reduce costs and maximize stock performance. Because if your stock underperforms, you suffered and people on Wall Street would downgrade you.


Add the politicians and media willingness to brand you an isolationist (like Pat Buchanan or Ross Perot) for opposing NAFTA, GATT or other treaties that (in the long term) hurt the US labor force, you end up with US manufacturers in Mexico and overseas where they produce expendable crap.

To blame Wallyworld is wrong. We did it to ourselves.
 
2012-07-08 07:45:53 AM  
i.imgur.com
 
2012-07-08 08:05:04 AM  
I'm grateful Walmart made lead poisoning cheaper.
 
2012-07-08 08:12:03 AM  
"throw out things that need repairing"

Uh...no. Cheap imported junk that costs more to fix than replace caused...oh wait, that's their specialty... Nevermind
 
2012-07-08 08:21:29 AM  
Walmart, it keeps the fuglys out of Target.
 
2012-07-08 08:24:47 AM  
Raising Americans stanard of living is the biggest thing wal-mart has done.
 
2012-07-08 08:31:32 AM  
I can name ten ways war has made our lives better.
Does that make war a desirable thing?
 
2012-07-08 08:35:37 AM  

spman: I'm sure you're being facetious, but a broken DVD player wouldn't even be worth fixing in the first place, the disc reader assembly is pretty damn delicate, and even if it could be fixed, it'd cost you more in parts and labor than it would to buy a new one. 30 Years ago, VCR's still set you back a few hundred bucks, and were mostly just mechanical machines and could be fixed if damaged. Most consumer electronics today is all Chinese made junk that's completely soldered together and couldn't be fixed if you wanted to.

What I want to is wtf is going to happen with all the useless CRT Television Sets and Computer Monitors littering the shelves of Thrift Stores across the country and Basements everywhere. That's going to be one huge ass landfill.



Look on craigslist. Plenty of people repair DVDs (more expensive kinds like the blu-ray players and the DVDs of game machines). The main problem is the laser that goes bad and lots of people fix those. If you're DIYer, there are extensive instructions on the internet on how to fix it.

Soldering doesn't make something unfixable. Lots of hardware use cheap caps that break and lots of people replace those.

The only thing that has changed is retail fronts on main street that advertise fixing electronics. Lots of people still fix things.
 
2012-07-08 08:47:08 AM  

invictus2: i.imgur.com


What is that, please?
 
2012-07-08 08:57:56 AM  

Grables'Daughter: invictus2: [i.imgur.com image 640x424]

What is that, please?


3 Wolves meme.
 
2012-07-08 09:14:36 AM  

inclemency: Someday we (the proles) will all work for wal-mart or their ilk. And tenpoundsofderp and HIS ilk will cheer in the salt mines next to us.


No, they'll find ways to biatch about how the Walmart drones have it so good, and are enemies of America.
 
2012-07-08 09:25:28 AM  

LarryDan43: Walmart, it keeps the fuglys out of Target.


Came here to say this exact thing.
 
2012-07-08 09:27:43 AM  

Loki-L: I am sorry, but in what world do items such as "decline of the labor movement" and "culture of overconsumption" represent a change for the better?


It's called, "subby trolling and the mods knowing that people will come in here and complain about it for more page clicks."
 
2012-07-08 09:58:32 AM  
Son of Sam

www.shoppingblog.com
 
2012-07-08 10:00:57 AM  

Tor_Eckman: Wal Mart forces small and medium size manufacturers out of business unless they relocate their factories overseas in order to meet their impossible pricing policies. Their buying power eliminates any smaller retailers unfortunate enough to be located anywhere near them. They replace good jobs and small businesses with jobs that pay only slightly above the minimum wage.

They are a shining example of why pure, unfettered capitalism is not a good thing. I stopped shopping there years ago.


Good for you for taking a principled stand against Wal-mart. But to be really effective, you need to start an awareness campaign, maybe petition to get their tax breaks removed, so their overhead goes up, so the prices reflect the actual cost of the item, maybe petition to make Wal-mart employees inelligble for government assistance, so Wal-mart employees start quitting in such numbers that they have to pay a decent wage to retain help, so that, again, eventually the price reflects the actual cost of doing business.

There's probably other benefits, Wal-mart receives, being the largest private sector employer in the country, but those were just two examples of the way that Wal-mart is not a free market capitalist business. I think they are an example of mercantilist capitalism, definitely not free market. Thank you for your time. But now back to dark, fart joke.
 
2012-07-08 10:12:24 AM  
Create an import tariff on goods from China, and Walmart and all it's problems will disappear overnight. Also, you'll have 75% of the country revolting against the government for taking away their cheap crap.
 
2012-07-08 10:28:10 AM  

Nuclear Monk: LarryDan43: Walmart, it keeps the fuglys out of Target.

Came here to say this exact thing.


I don't know, I was walking around my local Target one day and there were some God awful frog women their with their hellspawn or their hellspawn's hellspawn.
 
2012-07-08 10:44:57 AM  

Bear151556: Personally, I am not a fan of Walmart or it's policies. They are destructive.

 
2012-07-08 11:23:40 AM  

Lsherm: I'm sure some people like being able to throw away a broken item because it's cheaper to buy new, but to me that's just sad.


In a perfect world, companies would be forced to pay the full cost of disposing their products in a way that added no waste to the environment. Then we'd see a lot less "cheap" throw-away crap, and more recyclable and repairable goods.
 
2012-07-08 11:49:10 AM  

Nuclear Monk: LarryDan43: Walmart, it keeps the fuglys out of Target.

Came here to say this exact thing.


I third this motion.
 
2012-07-08 11:49:37 AM  
I guess if your life were horrible Walmart could make it better.
 
2012-07-08 12:05:43 PM  

Waldo Pepper: This is a great article about snapper saying No on selling to wal-mart

Link


I had read an article about one of the chainsaw companies that wanted to do business with Walmart. Then changed their minds when demands were made to make changes their product internally to lower the cost. Plastic gears, smaller gas tanks (save plastic) and things that would affect the reliability of the saw.
I've heard that if you weigh something (chainsaw / leaf blower) from Walmart, it will be lighter then one from Homedepot / Lowes and repair shops won't even touch Walmart stuff.
 
2012-07-08 12:09:50 PM  

wildcardjack: cman: Now, I am not even sure I could find anyone in the tri-state area who even fixes a broken DVD player.

When's the last time you had one break? Disc players have about 6 moving parts. If something goes wrong it's probably going to be at the circuit level and you'll throw money down the hole before finding the problem.

That "cheap" $100 disc player is a much simpler device than that $700 (CPI adjusted $2500) VCR from 1978.

[s-ak.buzzfed.com image 600x293]


Brought back memories of my first VCR, wired remote and had to tweak each station in by adjusting little screws, but man was it the cats ass. Visitors couldn't believe I was actually recording television!
 
2012-07-08 12:10:49 PM  

cig-mkr: Waldo Pepper: This is a great article about snapper saying No on selling to wal-mart

Link

I had read an article about one of the chainsaw companies that wanted to do business with Walmart. Then changed their minds when demands were made to make changes their product internally to lower the cost. Plastic gears, smaller gas tanks (save plastic) and things that would affect the reliability of the saw.
I've heard that if you weigh something (chainsaw / leaf blower) from Walmart, it will be lighter then one from Homedepot / Lowes and repair shops won't even touch Walmart stuff.


Do you have a link to the article? Google failed me.
 
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2012-07-08 12:13:33 PM  
Wal-Mart revolutionized retail sales with a new strategy: undercut rivals on staple items, but don't offer intermittent sales.

The big store revolution came over 50 years ago and was not limited to Wal-Mart. One driving force was price policy in the distribution chain. If manufacturers or distributors give volume-based discounts the big stores can sell items at retail for more than the corner store pays wholesale.

Amazon demanded deeper discounts than other book stores. The big NYC camera stores get deeper discounts than local shops. In modern business you can't afford to be small unless you offer something extra like convenience or customer service.
 
2012-07-08 12:17:57 PM  
I know that most Farkers consider WalMart to be the Great Satan. For a substantial portion of US society, though, it's made a huge difference. When a WalMart with a grocery starts in an area, grocery prices drop an average of 25%. For a lot of people, that means the difference between being able to buy food for the whole year, or for just 9 months.

I don't know of any policy that WalMart uses that hasn't been employed by other retailers over the years. It's just that they now do it on such a large scale that it has drawn a lot of attention.

I'm not an apologist for WallyWorld, and I don't shop there, but I think the whole hatred for all things Walton is a little out of proportion.
 
2012-07-08 12:35:10 PM  
I'm on Wal-Mart boycott right now, but it isn't for any moral reasons, it's more because I can't stand waiting in a line that's ten deep to pay for my Chinese junk every time I've gone there. Nearly 40 registers in the place, yet there only ever seem to be about 10 open. Fark that place.
 
2012-07-08 12:45:12 PM  

Lt. Cheese Weasel: Grables'Daughter: invictus2: [i.imgur.com image 640x424]

What is that, please?

3 Wolves meme.


I don't know how I missed it the first time around, but the CollegeHumor.com spoof of Twilight is farking hilarious.
 
2012-07-08 12:51:30 PM  
Any company that requires its workers to clock out and then continue working is not worth an article click. Fark Walmart, fark Walton and his brood, and fark anybody who blindly shops there and encourages their disgusting labor practices.
 
2012-07-08 12:55:08 PM  

The My Little Pony Killer: Fark Walmart, fark Walton and his brood


I knew someone that worked at Walmart for a number of years before moving to a different retailer. I asked her why she switched. So told me that she was happy with Walmart until Sam Walton died. It really started to change after his death, according to her.
 
2012-07-08 01:07:21 PM  

LarryDan43: Walmart, it keeps the fuglys out of Target.


Not just Target. Even my utterly-pedestrian middlebrow Kroger-owned grocery store has been nearly devoid of the "holy shiat... meth" shoppers since the local 'bad' Walmart expanded to add groceries 10 years back.
 
2012-07-08 01:13:01 PM  

dryknife: Son of Sam

[www.shoppingblog.com image 477x322]


Dollar General and Family Dollar are more profitable than Walmart. I wish the article could have pointed that out.


Dollar General sales, profit continue to rise

By Jessica Wohl

Thu Mar 22, 2012 10:48am EDT

(Reuters) - Dollar General Corp (DG.N) posted higher-than-expected holiday-quarter earnings and sales as more shoppers came into its U.S. discount stores and spent more per visit, and it expects its momentum to continue this year.

The company's sales gains outpace those of key rivals. In their most recent quarters, same-store sales at Wal-Mart Stores Inc's (WMT.N) Walmart U.S. chain and Family Dollar rose 1.5 percent and 4.1 percent, respectively.


http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/03/22/us-dollargeneral-idUSBRE82L 0 JP20120322
 
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