Wait so they're waiting on government handouts for living space instead of doing it as an individual?

In before we get all the lighters telling us how supporting veterans is wrong, and we shouldn't be such jingoistic farkwads as to help them when they get back from murdering babies for oil and at the whim of America's Israeli masters.

/This is what some frequent FARK posters actually believe.

kmmontandon: Which ones?

Be specific ... or be a pre-emptively defensive thread sh*tting Fark Independent, who's ready to nail himself up.

I'm guessing the latter.

I'm pretty sure that naming people before they've made an appearance in the thread is a reason to get my succinct Poe's law post deleted, and earn me a three day time out.

As soon as a thing becomes primarily about money...

What happened to not making people dependent on handouts and forcing them to lift themselves by their own bootstraps?

Last I heard there are a million unoccupied homes across America. It's not just California.

MATH TIME!
$280,000 a month for two buildings, capable of housing 450 people total, to sit vacant.
That's $9333 a DAY.
Just what the hell is in these buildings that is costing over nine thousand dollars a day to maintain? Maintenance/security personnel makes $20 an hour(generously), times eight hours a day, $160. Let's say there's... a dozen staff for EMPTY BUILDINGS, 8 at one location and 4 at the other. $1920 per day on maintenance. Where is the other six thousand dollars going?

This is why we can't have nice things, because nobody in the government has ANY incentive to cut spending. You spend all the money you can get your hands on, and then just blame the budget when money runs out. It's like in the military: You have to use every single consumable resource you're authorized to use, even if you're just wasting it. If you're authorized 10,000 rounds of ammunition, and you use 9,000, then next year you're only authorized 9,000. Better go down to the range and just blow through the ammo for no purpose.

This kind of waste makes me angry. You look at how much money they spend to build these things, that would have paid RENT MONEY for every one of the people it could have possibly housed, for as long as the facility would have been open.

ZAZ: enough money to "ramp up" staffing, Arteaga said, but not enough to serve any residents

How about leaving staffing at one custodian to check for plumbing leaks and trespassers? Hire a real staff when money is available for residents (which will be sooner if you aren't paying people to ramp).

Well, the staff isn't going to spend the money on anything but the staff until that expense is fully funded, and they need the full air conditioning and stuff so the staff can make sure themselves are fully comfortable as well as paid. What's hard to understand about that?

If these were homeless drug addicts and ex-convicts you farktard liberals would be all about helping them but since they are veterans it's, "Fark them! Why should they get help?"

The answer is simple, the government has been doing it for years. If you give banks and billionaires a billion dollars of poor and middle class peoples money, this helps poor people not be poor.

Trinkle down economics at its finest.

California would only care about illegal immigrants. fark everyone else.

"than", idiot.

Securitywyrm: MATH TIME!
$280,000 a month for two buildings, capable of housing 450 people total, to sit vacant.
That's $9333 a DAY.
Just what the hell is in these buildings that is costing over nine thousand dollars a day to maintain? Maintenance/security personnel makes $20 an hour(generously), times eight hours a day, $160. Let's say there's... a dozen staff for EMPTY BUILDINGS, 8 at one location and 4 at the other. $1920 per day on maintenance. Where is the other six thousand dollars going?

This is why we can't have nice things, because nobody in the government has ANY incentive to cut spending. You spend all the money you can get your hands on, and then just blame the budget when money runs out. It's like in the military: You have to use every single consumable resource you're authorized to use, even if you're just wasting it. If you're authorized 10,000 rounds of ammunition, and you use 9,000, then next year you're only authorized 9,000. Better go down to the range and just blow through the ammo for no purpose.

This kind of waste makes me angry. You look at how much money they spend to build these things, that would have paid RENT MONEY for every one of the people it could have possibly housed, for as long as the facility would have been open.

This.

crispyone: If these were homeless drug addicts and ex-convicts you farktard liberals would be all about helping them but since they are veterans it's, "Fark them! Why should they get help?"

Texas. Where stupid is in the water.

I'm okay with using an attention-grabbing group like veterans to highlight the government's gross inefficiency and waste to the detriment of its citizens. Ideally, figuring out and addressing the problem would have benefits across the board.

FTFA: "The state budget signed last week by Gov. Jerry Brown sets aside $4.2 million to operate the homes over the next year, enough money to "ramp up" staffing, Arteaga said, but not enough to serve any residents."

Why does that sound familiar?

Oh, and the followup.

TuteTibiImperes: California has an immigration problem. California also has a budget problem. Why not kill two birds with one stone?

California: "Hey there, illegal immigrant, why don't you agree to work for minimum wage doing something we need like changing bedpans, supervising homeless people in a home to make sure they don't flip out, or helping to maintain our infrastructure? If you do a good job and keep your nose clean we'll even throw in citizenship after five years, and give you on the job training so you can have a legitimate career afterwards!"

Illegal Immigrant: "That sounds better than picking tomatoes for 50 cents a bushel, where do I sign up?"

/yeah, yeah, states aren't in charge of immigration policy
//maybe they should be so something like this could be worked out

Where will the unskilled Americans displaced by those illegals work?

That is a pretty shiatty way to get a cheap green, submitter. Hope you feel like you accomplished something today.