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2012-07-07 05:57:47 PM
That's just messed up.
 
2012-07-07 06:22:24 PM
In Warren's experiment - formally known as "Physiological effects of microgravity and increased levels of radiation on wild type and genetically engineered Caenorhabditis elegans" - he had hoped to study the behavior of the quickly-reproducing roundworms in space as a way of glimpsing how space travel might affect human beings in the future.

Um... How would this require activation?
 
2012-07-07 06:30:43 PM

doglover: In Warren's experiment - formally known as "Physiological effects of microgravity and increased levels of radiation on wild type and genetically engineered Caenorhabditis elegans" - he had hoped to study the behavior of the quickly-reproducing roundworms in space as a way of glimpsing how space travel might affect human beings in the future.

Um... How would this require activation?


FTFA:

Per instructions from NanoRacks, the Houston company that works with NASA to integrate such deliveries, Warren packed his worms, or C. elegans, into a glass ampule, or tube, then packed that tube into a larger one containing a liquid "growth medium" for the worms. An astronaut aboard the space station was to crack the outer ampule in a way that would release the worms into the surrounding liquid.
 
2012-07-07 06:30:58 PM
NNNNNNNNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO


doglover: Um... How would this require activation?


That's exactly what the astronauts thought!
 
2012-07-07 06:48:32 PM

kingoomieiii: doglover: In Warren's experiment - formally known as "Physiological effects of microgravity and increased levels of radiation on wild type and genetically engineered Caenorhabditis elegans" - he had hoped to study the behavior of the quickly-reproducing roundworms in space as a way of glimpsing how space travel might affect human beings in the future.

Um... How would this require activation?

FTFA:

Per instructions from NanoRacks, the Houston company that works with NASA to integrate such deliveries, Warren packed his worms, or C. elegans, into a glass ampule, or tube, then packed that tube into a larger one containing a liquid "growth medium" for the worms. An astronaut aboard the space station was to crack the outer ampule in a way that would release the worms into the surrounding liquid.


Oh.

Yeah I don't keep reading after it's boring.
 
2012-07-07 06:59:31 PM
astronauts are assholes.
 
2012-07-07 09:32:47 PM
I can picture the astronauts up at ISS taking a look at the stuff they unloaded from the Dragon capsule:

"WTF is this?"
"Who cares?"
"It comes with instructions..."
"Jeebus, that looks like a lot of reading..."
"Yeah, if we can't eat it, drink it, or wipe with it, just put it aside."
 
2012-07-07 09:57:00 PM
The thing probably never left earth....hell I doubt the ISS even exists.
 
2012-07-07 10:18:22 PM
This is how supervillains are created.

"Those ignorant fools! NASA shall rue the day they crossed THE NEMATOLOGIST"
 
2012-07-07 10:36:34 PM
He should get a do-over on mission 3. Give him some time to make some improvements in the human factors area. Seems like a dick move on the ISS crew's part, but you have to understand, there's not a minute of their time that isn't rigidly scheduled, and they always have more work than time to do it in. Nano-type experiments, I gather, are supposed to be totally self-running once initially activated, not requiring any checking.
 
2012-07-07 10:43:55 PM
The astronauts were distracted. "Careful, they're ruffled!"

images.wikia.com
 
2012-07-07 10:46:28 PM
Checks mission notes...Looks like Tibor was supposed to activate that experiment.
 
2012-07-07 11:00:07 PM
BAAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHHHAAAA!!! Private space ACTIVATE!!! BAAAHAHAHHAHAAAAA!!!!
The '60s are over, geeks. Space is dead.
 
2012-07-07 11:06:01 PM
Attach a $100 bill to it next time.
 
2012-07-07 11:07:51 PM
"I don't know if I've ever been this frustrated. It might have been some kind of mechanical malfunction. I don't know if there's anyone to be blamed. But this is still hard."

Poor kid. Sounds like prom night all over again for him.
 
2012-07-07 11:14:20 PM

Nem Wan: Attach a $100 bill to it next time.


You know, I wonder if anyone has worked out the grams/$ ratio calculations to figure out if that's even cost effective.
 
2012-07-07 11:29:06 PM

SomethingToDo: This is how supervillains are created.

"Those ignorant fools! NASA shall rue the day they crossed THE NEMATOLOGIST"


Hahahahaha I loved this. I want to see the comics book.

/sequel to Dr. Horrible
 
2012-07-07 11:29:18 PM

Quantum Apostrophe: BAAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHHHAAAA!!! Private space ACTIVATE!!! BAAAHAHAHHAHAAAAA!!!!
The '60s are over, geeks. Space is dead.


Nah, it still has the capability of adsorbing a huge amount of financial resources, with as little prospect of return as the British South Sea Company.
 
2012-07-07 11:30:51 PM

amindofiron: Nem Wan: Attach a $100 bill to it next time.

You know, I wonder if anyone has worked out the grams/$ ratio calculations to figure out if that's even cost effective.


amindofiron: Nem Wan: Attach a $100 bill to it next time.

You know, I wonder if anyone has worked out the grams/$ ratio calculations to figure out if that's even cost effective.


Doing some quick research I'm seeing 1 pound to space at $10,000 and 450-500 bills to make a pound. So a full pound of $100 bills would be around $50,000 worth and cost $10,000 to launch. Roughly. (I pulled all these numbers from the first page of google results, did not verify any of them with secondary sources. This information may not be accurate and should not be used for any type of astronaut bribery.)
 
2012-07-07 11:47:42 PM
Wait! Shhh, quiet everyone, do you smell that? It's the unmistakable smell of a patent attorney!
Everyone freeze! Stop what you're doing!
They can sense innovation from long distances, even in space!

Sucks for the kid but I think he just got a valuable life-lesson.
 
2012-07-07 11:52:29 PM

doglover: kingoomieiii: doglover: In Warren's experiment - formally known as "Physiological effects of microgravity and increased levels of radiation on wild type and genetically engineered Caenorhabditis elegans" - he had hoped to study the behavior of the quickly-reproducing roundworms in space as a way of glimpsing how space travel might affect human beings in the future.

Um... How would this require activation?

FTFA:

Per instructions from NanoRacks, the Houston company that works with NASA to integrate such deliveries, Warren packed his worms, or C. elegans, into a glass ampule, or tube, then packed that tube into a larger one containing a liquid "growth medium" for the worms. An astronaut aboard the space station was to crack the outer ampule in a way that would release the worms into the surrounding liquid.

Oh.

Yeah I don't keep reading after it's boring.


Entertainment tab is one over.
 
2012-07-07 11:54:18 PM

Toy_Cop: The thing probably never left earth....hell I doubt the ISS even exists.


www.geek.com

Photographed from Earth though a 10" telescope.
 
2012-07-07 11:54:22 PM
www.weylandyutani.org

Instructions for ISS crew:

Upon receiving experiment aboard unmanned Dragon capsule:

1) Extract experiment from housing.
2) Locate ampule containing thousands of genetically engineered and wild roundworms.
3) Break open worm ampule to introduce worms into growth medium.

End instructions.
 
2012-07-08 12:04:07 AM

meanmutton: Toy_Cop: The thing probably never left earth....hell I doubt the ISS even exists.

[www.geek.com image 420x346]

Photographed from Earth though a 10" telescope.


Uh, I guess you've never heard of a projector before? What do you think all those satellites up there do? Provide you with telecommunications? I think not!
 
2012-07-08 12:06:46 AM
I'm sure there was a choice between "activate worm experiment" and "fix life support system". How dare they not choose the worms!
 
2012-07-08 12:08:58 AM
Good old reliable QA, shiatting up yet another space thread.

Ma didn't get you your Hot Pocket in time, did she.
 
2012-07-08 12:21:30 AM
Scientists at the National Institutes of Health, at the University of Nottingham in England, and at two research centers in Japan helped Warren design his project

Wow, and other kids think they're clever for getting their parents to help with school projects.


studebaker hoch: [www.weylandyutani.org image 500x281]

Instructions for ISS crew:

Upon receiving experiment aboard unmanned Dragon capsule:

1) Extract experiment from housing.
2) Locate ampule containing thousands of genetically engineered and wild roundworms.
3) Break open worm ampule to introduce worms into growth medium.

End instructions.


What a mutated worm may look like:

vileplanet.net

/hey, let's pet it!
 
2012-07-08 12:47:17 AM
"Release the what into the what now? I'm NOT doing that... I've already watched Aliens"
 
2012-07-08 12:55:53 AM

SwiftFox: Quantum Apostrophe: BAAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHHHAAAA!!! Private space ACTIVATE!!! BAAAHAHAHHAHAAAAA!!!!
The '60s are over, geeks. Space is dead.

Nah, it still has the capability of adsorbing a huge amount of financial resources, with as little prospect of return as the British South Sea Company.


Ignore him, he has a psychotic hatred of anything related to space because he has a crippling fear of death,a nd he fears any and all space research will magically take money away from longevity drugs (which he'll TOTALLY get first dibs on, because he's... I don't know. Better than you, or something? He's crazy.)
 
2012-07-08 01:02:37 AM
A few people I work with used to work at JPL. They would always talk about making things "Astronaut Proof".

The reality is, astronauts aren't scientists, they are fighter pilots. They don't really give a shiat about your experiment as they have plenty of other things on their mind. You don't give them instructions like, "Crack the outer ampule in a way that would release the worms into the surrounding liquid." You give instructions like "Hit the big green start button". You also most certainly do not give them something as fragile as an ampule. Build it as though a two year old with gorilla strength is going to play with it.
 
2012-07-08 01:03:08 AM

studebaker hoch: [www.weylandyutani.org image 500x281]

Instructions for ISS crew:

Upon receiving experiment aboard unmanned Dragon capsule:

1) Extract experiment from housing.
2) Locate ampule containing thousands of genetically engineered and wild roundworms.
3) Break open worm ampule to introduce worms into growth medium.

End instructions.



You forgot:

4) Ensure return of organisms for analysis. All other considerations secondary. Crew expendable
 
2012-07-08 01:08:49 AM
Photo of astronaut who tuned it on...and how:

t2.gstatic.com

/barbarella psychedelia
 
2012-07-08 01:10:09 AM
"The Right Stuff my ass!"
 
2012-07-08 01:29:24 AM

Useless Destruction of Exergy: "The Right Stuff my ass!"


"The Right Stuff my ass!"

t3.gstatic.com

/oh, those tricky, tricky commas
 
2012-07-08 01:36:29 AM

imagonyx123: studebaker hoch: [www.weylandyutani.org image 500x281]

Instructions for ISS crew:

Upon receiving experiment aboard unmanned Dragon capsule:

1) Extract experiment from housing.
2) Locate ampule containing thousands of genetically engineered and wild roundworms.
3) Break open worm ampule to introduce worms into growth medium.

End instructions.


You forgot:

4) Ensure return of organisms for analysis. All other considerations secondary. Crew expendable


5) then there will be cake.
 
2012-07-08 02:05:08 AM

RogermcAllen: A few people I work with used to work at JPL. They would always talk about making things "Astronaut Proof".

The reality is, astronauts aren't scientists, they are fighter pilots. They don't really give a shiat about your experiment as they have plenty of other things on their mind. You don't give them instructions like, "Crack the outer ampule in a way that would release the worms into the surrounding liquid." You give instructions like "Hit the big green start button". You also most certainly do not give them something as fragile as an ampule. Build it as though a two year old with gorilla strength is going to play with it.


I guess you never heard of Payload Specialists.
 
2012-07-08 02:10:16 AM

Quantum Apostrophe: BAAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHHHAAAA!!! Private space ACTIVATE!!! BAAAHAHAHHAHAAAAA!!!!
The '60s are over, geeks. Space is dead.


Which one of you summoned Space Bevets?
 
2012-07-08 02:13:06 AM
Well they are astronauts. It's not like they're rocket scientists.
 
2012-07-08 02:30:01 AM

imagonyx123: Useless Destruction of Exergy: "The Right Stuff my ass!"

"The Right Stuff my ass!"

[t3.gstatic.com image 176x228]

/oh, those tricky, tricky commas


Best laugh of a long day!
 
2012-07-08 02:35:25 AM
Pettit!!!!
 
2012-07-08 03:10:15 AM

The Stealth Hippopotamus: imagonyx123: studebaker hoch: [www.weylandyutani.org image 500x281]

Instructions for ISS crew:

Upon receiving experiment aboard unmanned Dragon capsule:

1) Extract experiment from housing.
2) Locate ampule containing thousands of genetically engineered and wild roundworms.
3) Break open worm ampule to introduce worms into growth medium.

End instructions.

You forgot:

4) Ensure return of organisms for analysis. All other considerations secondary. Crew expendable

5) then there will be cake.


6) The cake is a lie
 
2012-07-08 03:43:31 AM

studebaker hoch: Instructions for ISS crew:

Upon receiving experiment aboard unmanned Dragon capsule:

1) Extract experiment from housing.
2) Locate ampule containing thousands of genetically engineered and wild roundworms.
3) Break open worm ampule to introduce worms into growth medium.

End instructions.


On the next flight they'll have an android aboard to make sure the instructions are properly carried out.
 
2012-07-08 04:50:25 AM

Shenanigans!: studebaker hoch: Instructions for ISS crew:

Upon receiving experiment aboard unmanned Dragon capsule:

1) Extract experiment from housing.
2) Locate ampule containing thousands of genetically engineered and wild roundworms.
3) Break open worm ampule to introduce worms into growth medium.

End instructions.

On the next flight they'll have an android aboard to make sure the instructions are properly carried out.


Said android will be packed in an ampule, with instructions to break open upon receipt.
 
2012-07-08 08:24:26 AM

Shenanigans!: studebaker hoch: Instructions for ISS crew:

Upon receiving experiment aboard unmanned Dragon capsule:

1) Extract experiment from housing.
2) Locate ampule containing thousands of genetically engineered and wild roundworms.
3) Break open worm ampule to introduce worms into growth medium.

End instructions.

On the next flight they'll have an android aboard to make sure the instructions are properly carried out.


It will play basketball from a bicycle. Model itself after old British films it watches en route. And then put alien goo in someone's drink without knowing what the hell it does.

I saw the documentary, I know how these things work.
 
2012-07-08 08:39:14 AM
RogermcAllen

A few people I work with used to work at JPL. They would always talk about making things "Astronaut Proof".

The reality is, astronauts aren't scientists, they are fighter pilots.



God you're an idiot.

Random list from NASA's astro bio list:
JOSEPH M. ACABA -- B.S., Geology, University of California - Santa Barbara, 1990
M.S., Geology, University of Arizona, 1992

Dominic A. Antonelli -- B.S., Aeronautics & Astronautics, Massachusetts Institute of Technology; M.S., Aeronautics & Astronautics, University of Washington.

SERENA M. AUÑÓN (M.D.) -- [ the M.D. would tip off most folks, but to clear it up for you ]
Received a bachelor of science degree in electrical engineering from The George Washington University, Washington, D.C., in 1997 and a doctorate of medicine degree from The University of Texas - Health Science Center at Houston in 2001. Completed a 3-year residency in internal medicine at The University of Texas Medical Branch (UTMB) in Galveston, Texas, 2004 and then completed an additional year as chief resident in the Internal Medicine Department, 2005. She also completed an aerospace medicine residency at UTMB as well as a master of public health degree in 2007. She is board certified in Internal and Aerospace Medicine.

Michael Reed Barratt (M.D., M.S.) -- B.S., Zoology, University of Washington, 1981. M.D., Northwestern University, 1985. Completed 3-year residency in Internal Medicine at Northwestern University in 1988. Completed Chief Residency year at Veterans Administration Lakeside Hospital in Chicago in 1989. Completed residency and Master's program in Aerospace Medicine at Wright State University in 1991. Board certified in Internal and Aerospace Medicine.

Robert L. Behnken (LIEUTENANT COLONEL, USAF, Ph.D.) -- [ RogermcAllen, can you even spell Ph.D ]
B.S. Physics and B.S. Mechanical Engineering, Washington University, 1992
M.S. Mechanical Engineering, California Institute of Technology, 1993
Ph.D. Mechanical Engineering, California Institute of Technology, 1997.


Tracy Caldwell Dyson (Ph.D.) -- Received B.S. in Chemistry from the California State University at Fullerton (1993) and Ph.D. in Chemistry from the University of California at Davis (1997).

Christopher J. Cassidy -- B.S., Mathematics, U.S. Naval Academy, 1993.
M.S., Ocean Engineering, Massachusetts Institute of Technology, 2000.

Now list your credentials Rog.


/// Rog is now tagged pink "Ignorant fool"
 
2012-07-08 08:46:08 AM

Neondistraction: Quantum Apostrophe: BAAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHHHAAAA!!! Private space ACTIVATE!!! BAAAHAHAHHAHAAAAA!!!!
The '60s are over, geeks. Space is dead.

Which one of you summoned Space Bevets?


I'm not saying it was the aliens...
 
2012-07-08 09:35:33 AM

doglover: Oh.

Yeah I don't keep reading after it's boring.


Apparently, that's what the astronauts said too,
 
2012-07-08 09:48:44 AM
As a famous newscaster in Omaha once said "Sometimes your dreams are stupid".

-or-

They probably read the instructions, saw the word "radiation" and "genetically altered worms" and thought "There is no way in hell we're opening that shiat".
 
2012-07-08 10:14:18 AM

Abner Doon: Shenanigans!: studebaker hoch: Instructions for ISS crew:

Upon receiving experiment aboard unmanned Dragon capsule:

1) Extract experiment from housing.
2) Locate ampule containing thousands of genetically engineered and wild roundworms.
3) Break open worm ampule to introduce worms into growth medium.

End instructions.

On the next flight they'll have an android aboard to make sure the instructions are properly carried out.

Said android will be packed in an ampule, with instructions to break open upon receipt.


Asimov wrote a short story with almost exactly that premise.
 
2012-07-08 10:27:52 AM
The thing about Quantum Apostrophail that makes me laugh is that he doesn't realize how much science done in orbit is directly applicable to life extension and gerontology.

Many aspects of zero-gee living accelerate or otherwise magnify aspects of the aging process on the human body. From roundworms like these, to the astronauts themselves, who are constantly being used as guinea pigs for various studies on blood, bone, vision, etc. a LOT of the space science going on is about learning more about the aging process. So he really IS "quantum", in that he's simultaneously against one of the research methods for getting the very scientific knowledge he wants developed so badly.

Hahahaha.
 
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