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(Sun Sentinel)   Scientists insist that toxicologists were wrong and the Florida face-eater was indeed high on bath salts and synthetic marijuana and they lied in order to protect the synthetic drug industry   (sun-sentinel.com) divider line 119
    More: Followup, synthetic marijuana, drug companies, drug labs, Dr. Gary Goldberger, forensics  
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2012-07-07 01:13:21 PM
Which is all a conspiracy to hide the zombie apocalyse.

/Walking Dead Marathon on AMC
//First "Carl stay here" scene
 
2012-07-07 01:33:22 PM
I'm skeptical of their skepticism. He was high on life which is why he couldn't go on livin'.
 
2012-07-07 01:39:17 PM

OtherLittleGuy: /Walking Dead Marathon on AMC
//First "Carl stay here" scene


Yeah, watching.....
 
2012-07-07 02:22:27 PM
It's tough to test for something you don't even know exists.
 
2012-07-07 02:33:25 PM
who farking cares?
 
2012-07-07 02:34:13 PM

OtherLittleGuy: Which is all a conspiracy to hide the zombie apocalyse.

/Walking Dead Marathon on AMC



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*head nod, smirk, squint, smirk, head nod, scratch, smirk, squint*

"Hey, Rick... m'ask you somefin' 'bout dem bath salts, man..."
 
2012-07-07 02:43:12 PM

Jamdug!: It's tough to test for something you don't even know exists.


Word.
It sure as hell wasn't weed that made him behave that way. Do they even have an accurate test for bath salts?
 
2012-07-07 03:03:01 PM

AbbeySomeone: Jamdug!: It's tough to test for something you don't even know exists.

Word.
It sure as hell wasn't weed that made him behave that way. Do they even have an accurate test for bath salts?


No they don't - the street chemists change the psychoactive ingredients so often that authorities don't even know what to look for. By the time there's a test for one, it's already on a third or fourth variation.
 
2012-07-07 03:34:58 PM

AbbeySomeone: It sure as hell wasn't weed that made him behave that way.


Are you sure? Maybe he was hyper sensitive to weed
 
2012-07-07 03:35:46 PM

Jamdug!: No they don't - the street chemists change the psychoactive ingredients so often that authorities don't even know what to look for. By the time there's a test for one, it's already on a third or fourth variation.


There could be other factors too. Like using discount kitchenware made in China that's full of lead to cook up their poison.
 
2012-07-07 03:37:10 PM

basemetal: OtherLittleGuy: /Walking Dead Marathon on AMC
//First "Carl stay here" scene

Yeah, watching.....


I am not, Dish network subscriber....
 
2012-07-07 03:39:05 PM
So our cannibal friend went to his local dealer for some weed and ended up with some bunk ass ragweed that had been treated with bath salts and food coloring. I'm sure it was named purple kushberry or some other such nonsense.
 
2012-07-07 03:39:29 PM
Sounds like a viral marketing campaign for Reefer Madness 2.
 
2012-07-07 03:40:06 PM

OtherLittleGuy: Which is all a conspiracy to hide the zombie apocalyse.

/Walking Dead Marathon on AMC
//First "Carl stay here" scene


"Hey Rick...lemme ask you sumtin..."

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2012-07-07 03:40:12 PM

generallyso: Sounds like a viral marketing campaign for Reefer Madness 2.


Bath Salt Madness!
 
2012-07-07 03:40:57 PM
everything about this is like a nexus of potential between funny and scary
 
TKM
2012-07-07 03:43:17 PM
Have any bath salt factories suffered mysterious employee problems yet?

I had a friend who worked in a vitamin plant and they'd get exposed to stuff all of the time.
 
2012-07-07 03:43:35 PM
Wait, back up. BEEP BEEP BEEP.

Is subby implying that marijuana doesn't turn normal people into face eating monsters? Because that goes against everything DARE taught me.
 
2012-07-07 03:43:46 PM
Everybody knows the Devil's weed only makes minorities rape and murder white women, William Randolph Hearst told me so.
 
2012-07-07 03:45:01 PM

mikaloyd: AbbeySomeone: It sure as hell wasn't weed that made him behave that way.

Are you sure? Maybe he was hyper sensitive to weed


Or just the munchies part ?
 
2012-07-07 03:46:29 PM
"trace" amounts of marijuana.. it wasn't the weed that caused him to go all zombie, it was the lack of weed that had him so upset that he beat and rage munchied a homeless person

or maybe it was the bath salts he was smoking
 
2012-07-07 03:48:00 PM
Say what you want about this guy, stoner or bath salt maniac, he took a big old bite out of life.
 
2012-07-07 03:49:12 PM
I'm having trouble reconciling

Article: There are too many types of synthetic drugs and they're constantly changing, so it's impossible to test them all.

with

Subby: They lied in a conspiracy to protect the synthetic drug industry!

Am I misreading something?
 
2012-07-07 03:50:39 PM
I don't believe the industry is powerful enough to hold that much influence. It's more likely they covered it up because people resorting to smoking legal 'bath salts' is the best argument for legalization of harmless old mary jane in a long time.
 
2012-07-07 03:51:30 PM

cretinbob: who farking cares?


There are a lot of people with an interest in keeping marijuana illegal. You have various law enforcement agencies, private prisons and tactical supply companies who have a vested interest in locking users and dealers up. You also have various pharmaceutical companies who see marijuana as a competitor to their own drugs.

These groups want to continue the stigma that marijuana is a dangerous substance that can cause reefer madness as opposed to it being a recreational drug that is in many ways safer than alcohol. Decriminalization and even legalization would be bad business for them. So people do care right now... because there is an active political movement to get it reclassified.
 
2012-07-07 03:52:17 PM

Jamdug!: It's tough to test for something you don't even know exists.


CERN did it.
 
2012-07-07 03:53:00 PM
Bath salts, also known as synthetic amphetamines, are also hard to track for the same reason.

Marijuana, pot, whatever you want to call it is NOT k2 or any type of synthetic anything.
The damn article seems to be intentionally written to confuse the reader.
 
2012-07-07 03:53:15 PM
I'm Going with demon possession. It's equally scientific (zero percent) and even more scary.
 
2012-07-07 03:53:41 PM
And if you tried to track the base chemicals for bath salt from manufacturer to legit endusers the pharma lobby would go nuts

/almost as if they were on bath salts
 
2012-07-07 03:53:47 PM

UNAUTHORIZED FINGER: Jamdug!: It's tough to test for something you don't even know exists.

CERN did it.


We gonna need a bigger cannibal accelerator
 
2012-07-07 03:56:11 PM

Just another Heartland Weirdass: I'm Going with demon possession. It's equally scientific (zero percent) and even more scary.


The absence of evidence is NOT evidence of absence!!!
 
2012-07-07 03:57:31 PM
Just think if bathsalts users were imprisoned it perhaps could solve the overcrowding and double-bunking issue.
 
2012-07-07 03:58:04 PM
Was it lupus?
 
2012-07-07 03:59:34 PM
I'm waiting for a sequel to 'Caged Heat.' Maybe 'Cannibal Prison Sluts.'
 
2012-07-07 04:00:27 PM
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Bath salts, you say? Yes, that sounds delightful!
 
2012-07-07 04:05:13 PM

Oznog: Just another Heartland Weirdass: I'm Going with demon possession. It's equally scientific (zero percent) and even more scary.

The absence of evidence is NOT evidence of absence!!!


So the default is that he had all compounds in his system until they prove which ones were not present? Then Im going with oxides of plutonium and mardis gras bead lustre causing this.
 
2012-07-07 04:07:02 PM
Why does he even have to be on anything? Couldn't he just have been nuts? In every mental ward there are a few five point rooms where they just have to chain somone down for a few hours because no drug is going to bring them back.
 
2012-07-07 04:07:12 PM
I've said it before and I'll say it again- weed may make you hungry enough to eat a guy, but it will completely rob you of any motivation to track, hunt, kill, and dress your own "dangerous game," and inherently instills far too much empathy in the user to violate natural order in such a way.

Synthetic amphetamines, conversely, rob you of your appetite but make the hunting and killing part seem like a really good idea.

Homey was on bath salts.
 
2012-07-07 04:07:28 PM
I'm going with Occam's razor. He was simply batshiat insane.
 
2012-07-07 04:07:42 PM
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YOU GONNA GET ATE
 
2012-07-07 04:08:02 PM
He was high on Jesus. Test for that.
 
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2012-07-07 04:11:49 PM
maybe a bad hit of acid? you know, instead of of "look i can fly!!!" it was more of a " 1,2,3,4, i declare a face eating war!!!!"
 
2012-07-07 04:12:23 PM
Guy smoked some pot that was laced with "a little somethin' extra" and it made him batshiat nutso. Matches the story from people who knew him that he wasn't much of a druggy. And it was the middle of the damn day -- dude was just cruising around town.

If pot was legal, he could have bought a joint at the corner store from a regulated source, and been totally fine. But we've got private prison operators and pharmaceutical companies that need the money, so...
 
2012-07-07 04:13:43 PM
Man, how much must your life suck that you are doing bath salts to escape reality?

Now where is my beer?
 
2012-07-07 04:13:49 PM
There are large possibilities of variation in these substances, but they have commonalities that can be tested for. Case of traditional hallucinogens, the tryptamine arm would be the target of choice. Analysts are not completely in the dark, they get a characteristic spike for typical bonds.
 
2012-07-07 04:18:59 PM

AbbeySomeone: Jamdug!: It's tough to test for something you don't even know exists.

Word.
It sure as hell wasn't weed that made him behave that way. Do they even have an accurate test for bath salts?


are you sure?? one time i wasn't even on weed and went outside naked. maybe weed is the culprit!!
 
2012-07-07 04:25:57 PM
If synthetic marijuana does this to people I can't imagine what the real thing would do.
 
2012-07-07 04:34:04 PM
I arrested a female for DUI and she was really jittery, constantly moving, constantly talking, and generally behaving strangely. In her car, I found a bag of some "potpourri," aka synthetic marijuana known as spice. I made the arrest and she blew as being over the limit and she told me she had smoked some of the stuff. I submitted the spice package for lab testing.

The Miami Dade county medical examiner's lab results came back as negative for any drugs; just like Mr. Eugene's blood reports.

She said it was like smoking burning plastic
 
2012-07-07 04:36:51 PM

Jamdug!: By the time there's a test for one, it's already on a third or fourth variation.


If only there were some natural, organic drugs that could be taxed, regulated and legalized, maybe people wouldn't go mixing drano, cow manure and jujubees, boiling the mixture in rubbing alcohol and then filtering it through a syphilitic hookers wet panties before shooting it in their eyeballs.
 
2012-07-07 04:37:29 PM
Oh, and I call total bullshiat on the synthetic marijuana. It's nothing but a waste of money.
 
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