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2012-07-07 06:03:09 PM

FeedTheCollapse: should be added:

[www.filmsquish.com image 324x439]
(a.k.a. Brain Dead for those not in the USA)


fairly unknown (by TFA's standards) despite a big name director. I would place it ahead of any of the Evil Dead movies.


Bah, it's got some no-name director who will never amount to anything. I hear he's got a fixation on puppets.
 
2012-07-07 06:17:45 PM
'Montenegro' belongs on any list of underappreciated movies.
 
2012-07-07 06:25:25 PM
I'm gonna say this:

Moon sucked
So did Primer

Saw about 10 or 12 of the listed movies. Layer cake was good, Bubba Ho-tep was also good (might re-watch it tonight).

Oh, but go see Dead Snow. Zombie Nazis.
 
2012-07-07 06:37:13 PM
I always thought "Moon" was a helluva movie and wonder why I never heard of it before Netflix.
 
2012-07-07 06:38:35 PM
I have watched 10 of these, but I also have another five of the titles in my Netflix queue.

/So glad Bubba Ho-Tep made the list
//Also Layer Cake, because reasons
 
2012-07-07 06:42:20 PM
I liked Paprika over Perfect Blue, but that's just me.
 
2012-07-07 06:46:09 PM
I utterly despise these "best ever" lists written by morons under 30 years old.

Off the top of my head I could write a top 500 list of great but unseen gems from the 30s,40s,50s,60s,70s,and 80s.
 
2012-07-07 06:50:08 PM

nanim: I've seen -none- of these movies, have I missed anything?...


Better than most films released, although Layer Cake and Rescue Dawn were over rated IMO, didnt inspire much of a response
 
2012-07-07 06:51:00 PM

Six_By_Nine: Glenn Beck Knows a Strawman: Six_By_Nine:

I'm not seeing the correlation.

/by the way, I'm a chick
//but I enjoy it when people refer to me as 'buddy' and 'dude'. Makes me feel like I'm capable of writing gender-neutral posts.


I was making a very poor joke about the correlation between Idiocracy and The Ref.

/Congrats on the gender-neutral typing
//I feel awful for assuming you were male
///I have to try harder!
 
2012-07-07 06:55:12 PM

craigdamage: I utterly despise these "best ever" lists written by morons under 30 years old.

Off the top of my head I could write a top 500 list of great but unseen gems from the 30s,40s,50s,60s,70s,and 80s.


stoplikingwhatidontlike.jpg


/Also, hi
 
2012-07-07 06:57:40 PM

nanim: 1: 24 Hour Party People (2002)


I love it. If you love post-punk you probably will too. If you don't there's still a good chance you will. Falls apart a bit near the end, but this is the intro:

[First address to camera; after his hang-gliding news report] You're going to see a lot more of that sort of thing in the picture. I don't want to say too much, don't want to spoil it. I'll just say one word: 'Icarus'. If you get it, great. If you don't, that's fine too. But you should probably read more.
 
2012-07-07 06:59:39 PM

BigJake: kc278: Bubba Ho Tep is a small miracle, not only that it got made in the first place but it's actually faithful to Joe Lansdale's novella.

It was also cool to see Bruce Campbell do some acting. I love him being the hammy Bruce Campbell in the Evil Dead movies and the chill Bruce Campbell in Burn Notice, but he did some actual acting in that and he was really good.


Agreed on all counts. I stumbled across a book with the novella and the screenplay randomly in the stacks in my college library. Saw the movie after. It was pretty awesome and poignant.
 
2012-07-07 07:17:27 PM
Glenn Beck Knows a Strawman

My complaint is NOT a "stoplikingwhatidontlike" gripe.

My problem is the complete omission of several decades of films.

This list DOES have some real gems but what about the last 70 years?
 
2012-07-07 07:37:58 PM

craigdamage: I utterly despise these "best ever" lists written by morons under 30 years old.

Off the top of my head I could write a top 500 list of great but unseen gems from the 30s,40s,50s,60s,70s,and 80s.


Well? Go for it. Right here. You can even use the interwebulators - we'll never know.
 
2012-07-07 07:44:18 PM

craigdamage: Glenn Beck Knows a Strawman

My complaint is NOT a "stoplikingwhatidontlike" gripe.

My problem is the complete omission of several decades of films.

This list DOES have some real gems but what about the last 70 years?


I'd imagine they had to have some limit on the scope so as not to, you know, have a thousand page article no one would read.

You could argue they should have called it "50 best movies with limited viewership from the past 30 years but no way implying there weren't good unseen films from the previous decades, it's just that we figured most of the readers of Entertainment Weekly aren't sophisticated movie viewers like the people who post on Fark". That title lacks zip though, you know?

As for the list I surprisingly have seen quite a few, since I am not a huge theater aficionado like Fisker is apparently. My favorite was The Orphanage...I enjoyed Idiocracy and The Ref. I thought Moon was just ok, I didn't think Primer was that great and Ghost Dog was entertaining but I'm surprised to see the respect it got here.

The others I saw I don'teven remember being strongly affected by either way.
 
2012-07-07 07:57:32 PM

Glenn Beck Knows a Strawman: Six_By_Nine: Glenn Beck Knows a Strawman: Six_By_Nine:

I'm not seeing the correlation.

/by the way, I'm a chick
//but I enjoy it when people refer to me as 'buddy' and 'dude'. Makes me feel like I'm capable of writing gender-neutral posts.

I was making a very poor joke about the correlation between Idiocracy and The Ref.

/Congrats on the gender-neutral typing
//I feel awful for assuming you were male
///I have to try harder!


Is there a correlation, though? Maybe your joke wasn't bad and I missed something?

It's okay. I actually appreciate it when people automatically assume I'm a guy. That's what feminism is all about, really. So you made me feel a little better than I was feeling before.
 
2012-07-07 08:03:37 PM

thamike: I'm about to go see the new Oliver Stone film. Anybody know if it's any good?


OK, I saw it. Brainless fun. It's about what you'd expect from the trailer.

Back to the thread, though. I am surprised, what with all the obvious choices in the list, that Sunshine wasn't mentioned. It's hardly obscure, but I'm constantly surprised at how few people have seen it. I thought it was a very good film.
 
2012-07-07 08:13:54 PM
Missing from the list: Malice in Wonderland
The silk tie punchline . . .

Breakfast on Pluto isn't on the list either.

The rest of the list looks like my Netflix queue. Wristcutters was good, for a rom-com that is trying not to be. Kinda like Zombieland.
 
2012-07-07 08:16:21 PM
I've seen about a 10 of the movies on the list.

Liked:

Primer - A move I always recommend to people
The Ref - Struck as being a similar movie in idea to American Beauty
Eve's Bayou
Idiocracy - Popular among the Fark crowd
Chuck and Buck (Hadn't thought of the movie in years, though)
DayTrippers - very 90s style "indie" movie, but still entertaining

Barely remember/mediocre:
Next Stop Wonderland
Bamboozled

Disliked:
Rules of Attraction
Love & Basketball

One movie I always thought was surprisingly underrated was Millions, a bit of a fantasy kids movie directed by Danny Boyle, but just incredibly likeable and rewatchable.
 
2012-07-07 08:31:19 PM

Gunny Highway: I suggest 'Come and See' to everyone. It is a Russian film about the Nazi invasion of Belarus. Amazing film.


It is, but aside from the couple hours needed to watch the film, I'd also suggest setting aside another two hours for after the film to process what you just watched. I made the mistake of watching it right before I met up with some friends at the bar. I wasn't very talkative that night.
 
2012-07-07 08:36:14 PM
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Surprised this wasn't on the list. It's one of the funniest movies I've ever seen.
 
2012-07-07 08:58:05 PM

Six_By_Nine: It's okay. I actually appreciate it when people automatically assume I'm a guy. That's what feminism is all about, really. So you made me feel a little better than I was feeling before.


On the internet? Believe me, everyone already assumes you're a guy so if that makes you feel better, you should be feeling great. I still assume you're a guy even after you claimed to be a girl.
 
2012-07-07 09:01:06 PM
I've seen most of these. Marwencol is awesome. Ghost Dog is obscure? The Iron Giant? The Ref? This list is weaksauce.
 
2012-07-07 09:13:10 PM
I only saw Idiocracy once but in my opinion Idiocracy sucked arse.
 
2012-07-07 09:26:43 PM
Bubba Ho Tep is obscure? (it is very good)
The Iron Giant is Obscure? (it is very good)
Idiocrcy is Obscure? (It is not very good)
Layer Cake is obscure? (its good)
Moon is obscure? (its AMAZING)
The Ref is Obscure? (its ok)
 
2012-07-07 10:49:55 PM

BigJake: kc278: Bubba Ho Tep is a small miracle, not only that it got made in the first place but it's actually faithful to Joe Lansdale's novella.

It was also cool to see Bruce Campbell do some acting. I love him being the hammy Bruce Campbell in the Evil Dead movies and the chill Bruce Campbell in Burn Notice, but he did some actual acting in that and he was really good.


This!!!
 
2012-07-07 10:54:48 PM

douchebag/hater: I used to read EW and there is some revisionism going on here.

They did not like Bamboozled, Love and Basketball or The Ref upon original release.


remember how the critics treated Taxi Driver for a crapload of years? holy crap, people should have lost their easy movie critic jobs.
 
2012-07-07 11:40:06 PM

Inaditch: The caption missed the point of Bubba Ho-Tep. Ossie Smith was delusional and thought he was JFK. Bruce Campbell WAS Elvis.


I submit that Ossie Smith WAS Kennedy. I preferred leaving that interpretation open.
 
2012-07-07 11:49:43 PM
I've seen plenty of these, I wouldn't put them on a "best of" list, except maybe The Iron Giant but that's because I'm more of a big blockbuster type of guy. Not that I didn't enjoy some of them, they were pretty good but the only reason I watched them in the first place is because they were on IFC and I thought there was a chance I'd see some independent film naked ladies.
 
2012-07-07 11:53:55 PM
They picked the wrong "Last Night" (2011)


They should have said "Last Night" (1998)
 
2012-07-08 12:19:25 AM

andrewagill: Inaditch: The caption missed the point of Bubba Ho-Tep. Ossie Smith was delusional and thought he was JFK. Bruce Campbell WAS Elvis.

I submit that Ossie Smith WAS Kennedy. I preferred leaving that interpretation open.


See, I think it's better/funnier that one of them is real and the other is delusional, and it's much better if it's Elvis that's real.

It's like the Florida tag. People clamor for tags for other states from time to time, but this would dilute the awesomeness of the Florida tag.
 
2012-07-08 12:23:36 AM
List fails without Dark City. (directors cut edition, natch)

/do you know the way to Shell Beach?
 
2012-07-08 12:43:10 AM
I have personally seen 36 of those films.


DIG love that one.
 
2012-07-08 01:13:48 AM
No response to my earlier comment. You guys are a bunch of under-endowed aging fark pigs.
 
2012-07-08 01:33:10 AM

StreetlightInTheGhetto: nanim: 1: 24 Hour Party People (2002)

I love it. If you love post-punk you probably will too. If you don't there's still a good chance you will. Falls apart a bit near the end, but this is the intro:

[First address to camera; after his hang-gliding news report] You're going to see a lot more of that sort of thing in the picture. I don't want to say too much, don't want to spoil it. I'll just say one word: 'Icarus'. If you get it, great. If you don't, that's fine too. But you should probably read more.


I too have to give some love to '24 Hour Party People'. While I am in the wheelhouse as someone who loves Joy Division, New Order, Happy Mondays and many of the bands around Tony Wilson/Factory Records, it's just a really well-made, witty little film and Steve Coogan is aces as Wilson. Plus the soundtrack.
 
2012-07-08 02:36:31 AM

js34603: since I am not a huge theater aficionado like Fisker is apparently


No, it's cool, dude.

It's hard being such a hipster on a website where you have 2000 other hipsters pretending to be joe six pack so they don't sound hipster because they already knew that being hipster was bad and I already knew that your only argument would be to point out that I am apparently a huge theater aficionado.
 
2012-07-08 03:06:44 AM
Oh please, the people that claim to hate idiocracy for some political or smug reason get over yourselves. It's funny. If you don't like the people who claim that it is prophetic then all I have to say is that it is not the movie's fault. Some people take symbolism, parodies, and satirical stuff a little too seriously. Stuff in the movie has a basis in reality but its exaggerated to the umpteenth degree, which is what makes the movie very funny imo.

Sorry, I just find it really odd when people claim to not like a movie because of its fans.

Iron giant is a very good animation. I was surprised hardly anyone knows of it. Not even my sister who is a graphics artist that watched a lot of animations.

I've never watched any of the others or heard of them really.
 
2012-07-08 03:10:23 AM

Stile4aly: No response to my earlier comment. You guys are a bunch of under-endowed aging fark pigs.


If you want people to respond to you posting retarded rambling, post on the politics tab.
 
2012-07-08 03:17:58 AM

Tarl3k: I normally don't biatch about slideshows, but some on, a *50* picture slide show!?!?!


If this link doesn't work, just go to deslide.clusterfake.net and paste in the URL. They must be a Farker because there is a Fark-specific option in there too. You, sir or madam, are a hero.

Link
 
2012-07-08 06:10:15 AM
Smiley Face, really? When you have a movie with the stoner antics, you atleast have to like the main character. I really couldn't care what happens to anna's character.
 
2012-07-08 06:15:51 AM
I saw Bubba Ho-Tep in the theater.

And seriously, this "things you haven't seen" or "things you don't know" nonsense has to stop.
 
2012-07-08 06:37:30 AM
I also think that Old Boy and Black Dynamite would make fine additions to a list like this one. I don't know if they really qualify as one of those "movies people might not know about," but I know plenty of people who have never had the pleasure of viewing them.

/Rare Exports may be one of the best movies I've ever seen
//only half-joking
 
2012-07-08 06:42:13 AM

titwrench: No one should watch Chuck and Buck. It's terrible.


This.
 
2012-07-08 06:57:21 AM

MisterLoki: nanim: I've seen -none- of these movies, have I missed anything?...

This scene should tell you if you want to see Ghost Dog.

In ancient times bears were considered equal with men.


I couldn't get passed a fat lazy eyed black samurai.
 
2012-07-08 07:14:59 AM

Capt. Sparkles: I also think that Old Boy and Black Dynamite would make fine additions to a list like this one. I don't know if they really qualify as one of those "movies people might not know about," but I know plenty of people who have never had the pleasure of viewing them.


Black Dynamite doesn't get nearly as much love as it deserves. I'm also glad the cartoon is finally coming out next week.
 
2012-07-08 07:51:12 AM

fisker: js34603: since I am not a huge theater aficionado like Fisker is apparently

No, it's cool, dude.

It's hard being such a hipster on a website where you have 2000 other hipsters pretending to be joe six pack so they don't sound hipster because they already knew that being hipster was bad and I already knew that your only argument would be to point out that I am apparently a huge theater aficionado.


Holy balls, are there still people in this thread who think you were being serious?
 
2012-07-08 10:40:13 AM
And if this article adheres to a questionable definition of "obscure," then City of God should be on the list.

Phenomenal movie that not nearly enough people have seen.


Flappyhead: Dammit, now I'll have to track that down.


Heh, I can't recommend it this way or that way.

I'm merely here to tell you of its existence. Good luck!


Six_By_Nine: 21: Idiocracy (2006) - I HATED this movie. I think it exists so that people who think they're smarter than other people can point to it with sneering smugness and say "look, YOU people are the problem, and THIS is what will happen!" as if stupidity is suddenly a new thing.


Pretty much, aye.

That, and Idiocracy seems to revel in the same stupidity that it criticizes. It's a movie that tries to have it both ways. Ridiculously overrated.

Mike Judge did it much better with Office Space.


Pandora's Litterbox: Indeed.

I learned the other day that he was in that atrocious-looking Snow White and the Huntsman flick. Now, Ms. Theron isn't the only reason I've to watch it (on cable)(on a wet afternoon/insomniac early morning)(most probably sometime before the end of this year). Sometimes it's hard being a completist

All actors have to work to keep the lights on. I just hoped he'd be beyond needing to do that kind of 7th-billed jazz. I'm willing to bet he classes up the proceedings though through his presence alone, though.


Ugh... I've been trying to avoid that one due to the non-acting "talent" of Kristen Stewart, but if Bob Hoskins is in it...

*sigh*

Like you say, it's hard out here for a completist pimp.

That, I won't complain about Bob Hoskins taking on what projects he wants to take on. You want to do a Jet Li movie? Have at 'em, mammajamma, you get no complaints here.


FeedTheCollapse: should be added:

[www.filmsquish.com image 324x439]
(a.k.a. Brain Dead for those not in the USA)


fairly unknown (by TFA's standards) despite a big name director. I would place it ahead of any of the Evil Dead movies.


I want to see it re-released on DVD with a big blurb that says "FROM THE MULTI-ACADEMY AWARD-WINNING DIRECTOR OF THE LORD OF THE RINGS TRILOGY."

Wouldn't that be perfect?
 
2012-07-08 11:46:35 AM

Toshiro Mifune's Letter Opener: That, and Idiocracy seems to revel in the same stupidity that it criticizes. It's a movie that tries to have it both ways. Ridiculously overrated.


I kind of agree. I thought Idiocracy wasn't quite as good as the concept of it was, nor do i think it's nearly as smart as it's been made out to be, but it was enjoyable otherwise. Calling it shiatty is a bit much.

I don't really think Office Space has the same themes as Idiocracy, though.
 
2012-07-08 12:24:59 PM
I am uncultured swine, I only saw 4 of those.
 
2012-07-08 12:35:18 PM

FeedTheCollapse: I don't really think Office Space has the same themes as Idiocracy, though.


Oh, I didn't mean it like that. Sorry for the misunderstanding.

When I said "Mike Judge did it much better with Office Space," I just meant filmmaking in general.

Idiocracy comes across to me as a contradictory mess that practically breaks its arm after patting itself on the back too hard.


FeedTheCollapse: I kind of agree. I thought Idiocracy wasn't quite as good as the concept of it was, nor do i think it's nearly as smart as it's been made out to be, but it was enjoyable otherwise. Calling it shiatty is a bit much.


Fair enough, aye.

I'm more at odds with Idiocracy's reputation than the film itself.
 
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