Rann Xerox: Are there any Scientologists that are poor?

Yes, quite a few. Scientology has a Slave Labor force.

And some scientologists commit suicide after being financially wiped out by the cult, such as Noah_Lottick, an American student who committed suicide by jumping from a 10th-floor hotel window, clutching his only remaining money.

From: Daniele Lattanzi [mailto:d­l­mc­0­809evi­l­com]
Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2012 1:53 AM
To: Ray McKay
Subject: RE: Simple hatting on how to fight back on the internet
and Stand Up For Your Faux Religion

Dear Razz Line members,

I am not a big fan of media, but you may have glanced the news of
the split between TC and Holmes and all the speculations around.
While this is a personal matter, when people start to bring our
religion into the middle and a bunch of uninformed people start to
spread false datum (only one?), rumors and defame our religion it became a
matter that does affect my Dynamics (a disruption in the Force) and I believe that affects
yours as well (which is okay as long as it doesn't affect your ability to pay).
Well, I am not somebody that I am going to simply stand and watch a
bunch of uninformed people putting my faux religion under the carpet (better there than up on a pedestal so we can all look up its skirt to realize that, like TC's lover, it has a peener). So
here is a simple hatting on how you can causative fight back and at
the same time stand up and defend our faux religion on the internet (or, as it's normally referred to as "to laxative poop on the internet") .

Microsoft or Google or any of these big online company require that
each person when create an account with them follow a Code of
Conduct when they are on the internet. If there are abuse of such
Code of Conduct, those website do actually invite you to report the
matter to the Moderator - in other word, write the matter to
Ethics. WTF, English how does it work?

These This is where things can be turned around!

Here is a simple example on how to fight back abuse of the Code of
Conduct that is happening within the Microsoft (MSN) website:

1. One of the Code of Conduct that Microsoft impose is to not
"threatens, defames, degrades... an individual or group of
individuals for any reason; including on the basis of age, gender,
disability, ethnicity, sexual orientation, race, religion; or
incites or encourages anyone else to do so.."

So is if you go to MSN Now - What's Trending? you will see different
articles about TC and Holmes split. The articles then ask for
comment.... (Note: if the article does not show up anymore on the
first page, go to the search bar and type 'Tom Cruise Divorce'...
or a similar search. You want to go where the comment section is) (Double note -- thereby increasing the page hit count, ensuring that the original article is sure to show up on Google whenever Tom Cruise Divorce is googled).

On each comment if you place your mouse over it,it show up on the
bottom right a tag that say 'REPORT'. English, how does it work?

2. Click the "Report" Tag and a small window shows up. Click the tab
"Send Note to Moderator"

3. Once you do that a new window shows up and you can send a text of
100 characters. You can write something like 'Violate Your Code of
Conduct'. "defames or degrades a group for any reason including on
the basis of religion." Or, you can write something like, "by the power of L. Ron Hubbard I commend thee demon to subThetan hell."
The above exact comment it fit fits.

4. Read the comment from people and pick the ones that fit the
violation of the Code of Conduct.

5. Report the Violation!! That's it!! You are done.

6. Now rinse and repeat the same process from step 2 to 5..

Once you got the hang of it it get pretty fast and in one hour you
can report of lots of these nonsense comments!

If is only one person (me) reporting these issues, the Moderator at
Microsoft will not take the comment off. if you start to have 10 or
20 people reporting it, they are going to take this down.

LRH give an exact quote on the Price of Freedom that you find on
Tape 1 - Transcript page 32 - The Genus of Dianetics and
Scientology - ANATOMY OF THE HUMAN MIND CONGRESS. The same quote
appears also in the Tech Dictionary under the Price of Freedom.

Ok - there you have it!! This simple hatting is something that you
can use now for this or similar situations that may happen in the
future.

Over to you!
Best
Daniel

PS -- If you send me $500, I will email you valuable coupons you may use in the future at the Thetan Superstore.

FTFY Daniel. With all the grammar and spelling errors, I was half waiting for Dann-o to call us all a bunch of loosers.

So, apostrophy, possessive, and plural are just tool of thetan. Good to know.

The above exact comment it fit.

phenn: I can't understand all the hate for Scientology when the Catholic church is still protecting baby farkers and pervs.

The Catholic Church doesn't try to bankrupt you in court when you publicly call them on the carpet for their actions. Plus, they don't charge hundreds of thousands of dollars for a full copy of the Bible.

/David Miscavige can go EABOD

jodaveki: second lang
I went through grade school and high school outside of the U.S. In my world, english was a second language for almost everyone I knew. They all spoke and wrote the language far more intelligently and effectively than the author of the about-to-be-memed e-mail in the article.

I didn't RTA, but I will say this: I knew a couple who were the nicest people. I was very good friends with their daughter. He was an architect and she was a VP of some company. They made very, very, good money. They were always kind to me (we are different races in the south) and I always thought very highly of them. I found out that they were Scientologists. No bid deal to me other than I thought it was interesting (we're talking '80's people). The husband died about 2 years of knowing Lisa and the wife died soon after (they were pretty young too). I just found out that they left their entire estate to the church and left their girls out of the will. I realize that it is their right to do so, but they loved their children, but the kids still got nothing. I suspect that Scientology wants to make sure that they get their share of the Tom Cruise pie. Tom's kids better get what they can now cuz they may not get crap later.

cgremlin: /David Miscavige can go EABOD

Well, he is Tom Cruise's gay lover, so....

MmmmBacon: Walker: I see Anonymous and /b/ having fun with this one.

I seem to recall Anonymous has this thing about not being anyone's personal army. Where it might seem like Scientology is setting themselves up to be smacked by Anonymous again, they could just as easily ignore them and plaster some third-rate actresses naked photos all over the place.

can they not do both?

Hetfield: Gawdzila: I can't wait until this farking cult implodes. It has to happen one day, it is too ridiculously stupid not to.

I have little hope of this happening anytime soon.

Walker: Scientology is about to meet the Streisand effect. Somehow they didn't think their cunning plan all the way thru.

They have experienced the Streisand effect several times now. It doesn't appear to have made them any weaker.

What is the Streisand effect?

Mambo Bananapatch: phenn: Gawdzila: I can't wait until this farking cult implodes. It has to happen one day, it is too ridiculously stupid not to.

All organized religions are cults. Every last stinking one. I can't understand all the hate for Scientology when the Catholic church is still protecting baby farkers and pervs.

What is that?

Can't I hate them both?

Hate isn't terribly useful. Staying far away from both, however, sounds like an excellent idea.

From the actual email:

"These is where things can be turn around!"

lol

In my head i heard Russian female. I don't know why...

thenewmissus: What is the Streisand effect?

The Streisand effect is a primarily online phenomenon in which an attempt to hide or remove a piece of information has the unintended consequence of publicizing the information more widely. It is named after American entertainer Barbra Streisand, whose attempt in 2003 to suppress photographs of her residence inadvertently generated further publicity.

Sudo_Make_Me_A_Sandwich: vossiewulf: Apparently Scientology doesn't cover grammar in that whole very expensive years-long training thing.

Someone suggested that the grammar was a watermark so that if/when the document was leaked, they would know who leaked it. The mistakes are really odd, and any decent programmer could knock out something to e-mail a unique copy to everyone on a list pretty quickly.

Why does this remind me of a Tom Clancy book. Is it called a "canary trap"? Also, I'm of the opinion that all religious texts should be free to the public.

thenewmissus: Hetfield: Gawdzila: I can't wait until this farking cult implodes. It has to happen one day, it is too ridiculously stupid not to.

I have little hope of this happening anytime soon.

Walker: Scientology is about to meet the Streisand effect. Somehow they didn't think their cunning plan all the way thru.

They have experienced the Streisand effect several times now. It doesn't appear to have made them any weaker.

What is the Streisand effect?

Link

namatad: Bathia_Mapes: namatad: 1) this is a repeat
2) this is a repeat
3) this was boring as hell when it first was posted
4) this is a repeat

There have been so many of these threads the past week that it's hard to keep track of them all. Do you have the link or can you give me an idea as to what the original headline said so I can track it down?

Thanks

I looked a little. I might be wrong. I think it might just be a repeat of a yahoo article that I read.
So blurry .... so much scientology/TC/holmes.

Might be time to give it up coldwild turkey.

NewportBarGuy: Relatively Obscure: I believe that all of your datum may be in errors.

I'd like to spread some false datum all over Katie Holmes.

Ignore.

How could you ever trust a religion that defends itself with legal skullduggery instead of a history of good works and social benefit to nonbelievers? Say Christianity is stupid, say Islam is stupid, say there are extremists of both that mock the faith - but your rank and file Christians and Muslims are nominally good folks, and apostates (such as myself) don't tell tales of torture or crazy abuse after leaving.

Interesting links if you have lots of time to waste

xenu-directory

Operation Clambake

Misch: "The purpose of a lawsuit is not to win, but to harass" - L. Ron Hubbard

Sounds more like Fred Phelps and Family.

Unsung_Hero: Mugato: Guntram Shatterhand: It's very easy to get the literature on most of the major religions along with criticism thereof. Scientology does not offer that

That's one of the differences, a major one. And you don't see the farking Pope threaten the entire internet community for talking about the Church's shadiness.

It'd be nice to see the Americans pass a law that says legal recognition as a religion requires that your religious texts be available free of charge to the public.

I'm pretty sure Christians, Muslims, and Buddhists wouldn't have a problem with that.

That... might actually work!

Here's my theory: I'm convinced all of this is just due to a bitter Katie Holmes.

No, really: she didn't get the career boost she thought she would out of it, and it resulted in her being a public mockery. So, she decided that she was going to get more publicity by taking down a cult.

I haven't figured out the logistics of it all yet, I mean, she never really struck me as the brightest bulb on Broadway, but then again, scorned women and all...

Six_By_Nine: I'm convinced all of this is just due to a bitter Katie Holmes.

Hi! What OT level are you?

WTF is "hatting"?!?

Ooba Tooba: maggoo: Ooba Tooba: Never cared for cruise's work. Always thought he seemed like a bit of a doofus with small man syndrome, and he certainly has dug himself some holes, but i find myself feeling sorry for the Guy lately. Wouldn't wish the press/internet bashing he gets on anyone (maybe penis Cheney) i predict a weird suicide/disappearance with t.c. at some point. At least some kind of epic meltdown. *leave Tom alone!*

That's like saying you feel sorry for Joseph Goebbles for getting bashed by the press.

Poor, poor Goebbles...

So Tom cruise is equal to the propaganda minister of the third Reich. Got it.

Oh, no. If we could somehow displace them in time to make them contemporaries, in no way would they be equals. Goebbles was a top level government official of a (hated, nefarious) world power. Cruise is an over-the-hill, mostly has-been actor.

Put Tom Cruise, Mel Gibson, and Charlie Sheen in a room and you don't even need a punchline.

So no, Cruise has never come close to being Goebbels' equal.

Someone can be powerful and "great" and still be an evil, narcissistic sonofabiatch.

Six_By_Nine: So, she decided that she was going to get more publicity by taking down a cult.

Assuming I granted your premise, that's bad how exactly?

It's not so much the grammar that bugs me, but rather that most of those aren't grammar accidents. Scientology uses a lot of words in very peculiar ways, so much so that when you read their internal documents, it sound like English from 1850, or 2150.

The same but.... unsettlingly different.

Six_By_Nine: Here's my theory: I'm convinced all of this is just due to a bitter Katie Holmes.

No, really: she didn't get the career boost she thought she would out of it, and it resulted in her being a public mockery. So, she decided that she was going to get more publicity by taking down a cult.

I haven't figured out the logistics of it all yet, I mean, she never really struck me as the brightest bulb on Broadway, but then again, scorned women and all...

or maybe, Once she had a baby she realized that the care, growth and safety of her child is more important than anything else and her husband and his cult is dangerous to Her and her daughter's well being.

BronyMedic: Considering this cult is responsable for the largest criminal infiltration of the Government in American History, Operation Snow White, they just might be able to do it.

What's the story about Clinton and Scientology?

ur14me: WTF is "hatting"?!?

It's "explanation for how to". Think military terminology, eg "Wearing more than one hat". To do this job = to wear this hat.

There is a link in the article explaining 'hatting'.

'But according to What is Scientology?, hatting is:
the training given to a person so that he or she can successfully perform the functions and produce the products of a specific job, duty or activity.'

Mugato: Guntram Shatterhand: It's very easy to get the literature on most of the major religions along with criticism thereof. Scientology does not offer that

That's one of the differences, a major one. And you don't see the farking Pope threaten the entire internet community for talking about the Church's shadiness.


No, but he has been known to tell the nuns to STFU and make him a sammich.

They need to hurry up and release the Katie Holmes/kardashian/zimmerman sex tape and stop wasting time with multible threads.Combine it into one big waarrrbble thread and bury it for all time.

Scientology is a cul *USER WAS REPORTED BY SCIENTOLOGISTS FOR THIS POST*

thenewmissus: I didn't RTA, but I will say this: I knew a couple who were the nicest people. I was very good friends with their daughter. He was an architect and she was a VP of some company. They made very, very, good money. They were always kind to me (we are different races in the south) and I always thought very highly of them. I found out that they were Scientologists. No bid deal to me other than I thought it was interesting (we're talking '80's people). The husband died about 2 years of knowing Lisa and the wife died soon after (they were pretty young too). I just found out that they left their entire estate to the church and left their girls out of the will. I realize that it is their right to do so, but they loved their children, but the kids still got nothing. I suspect that Scientology wants to make sure that they get their share of the Tom Cruise pie. Tom's kids better get what they can now cuz they may not get crap later.


So who's Lisa again?

Julie Cochrane: So no, Cruise has never come close to being Goebbels' equal.

He's bonking the leader of the cult, so Eva Braun might be a better comparison.

Hetfield: Six_By_Nine: I'm convinced all of this is just due to a bitter Katie Holmes.

Hi! What OT level are you?

Oh, brother. Is it truly necessary to be on either side?

I'm not Team Katie, or Team Clear. I'm probably Team Clambake if I had to pick, really. But just because I'm not going with the line of "hey, you know what, Katie was just seduced by the dark side and she's a really good person getting her life back together".

She signed up with Tom Cruise knowing exactly what she was getting into. (You can see how creepy that dude is from a mile off...the "I'm silently judging you" scene from Magnolia is probably as close to his real personality as anyone outside his circle has seen.) She could have dated someone with less star power and maybe landed a few low-key projects. But she saw a mega-star and grabbed on.

So, actually, I'm Team Cynic and maintaining the theory that anyone who wants A-list status knows that their whole life is a show with a carefully constructive narrative around it (Tom Cruise might be the most obvious case, but anyone that public is always looking for 100% message control). Therefore, my theory is, if she couldn't hack it as an A-list actress on the arm of one of the biggest movie stars in the world, the new narrative she constructed is "how this sweet innocent girl went from being a Stepford Scientologist to the surprising and amazing woman who singlehandedly took down a cult. She surely didn't have that plan going in, but why not make it work to her advantage on the way out?

Saberus Terras: Why do I have a sneaking suspicion we will be hearing about Katie Holmes disappearing in the next few weeks?

I also suspect she will resurface a few months later, saying the divorce was all a mistake and TomKat will live on... but she'll have this odd new scar on her head.

I would suggest that at this point in her life the goddamn papparazzi are a welcome intrusion on her privacy.

Hetfield: thenewmissus: What is the Streisand effect?

The Streisand effect is a primarily online phenomenon in which an attempt to hide or remove a piece of information has the unintended consequence of publicizing the information more widely. It is named after American entertainer Barbra Streisand, whose attempt in 2003 to suppress photographs of her residence inadvertently generated further publicity.

Thank you farkers. You guys never let me down.

Six_By_Nine: Oh, brother. Is it truly necessary to be on either side?

Not at all, but pinning the blame on Katie Holmes only kind of means you've chosen a side. Which I found weird.

Tom Cruise Raped and Murdered a Boy in 1990?

Cast: Tom Cruise Raped and Murdered a Boy in 1990?

Can't have been easy, they probably were the same height.

Bloody William: Six_By_Nine: So, she decided that she was going to get more publicity by taking down a cult.

Assuming I granted your premise, that's bad how exactly?

I didn't say it was a bad thing. I don't think she's a particular mastermind, and the long-term effects aren't necessarily bad ones. But it doesn't make this not-a-PR-play, either. She gets to use this opportunity to say that she's this good person that got caught up in something bad. Maybe her conscience about her kid nudged her in the right direction, but the kid is already a few years old, so it's not like she hasn't had time to consider what would happen when the kid got older.

Though in all fairness, it's probably really a good thing this is as public as it is. Scientology wouldn't try any funny business around someone that public. That's why Parker and Stone were relatively safe after the Scientology episodes of South Park.

jmr61: thenewmissus: I didn't RTA, but I will say this: I knew a couple who were the nicest people. I was very good friends with their daughter. He was an architect and she was a VP of some company. They made very, very, good money. They were always kind to me (we are different races in the south) and I always thought very highly of them. I found out that they were Scientologists. No bid deal to me other than I thought it was interesting (we're talking '80's people). The husband died about 2 years of knowing Lisa and the wife died soon after (they were pretty young too). I just found out that they left their entire estate to the church and left their girls out of the will. I realize that it is their right to do so, but they loved their children, but the kids still got nothing. I suspect that Scientology wants to make sure that they get their share of the Tom Cruise pie. Tom's kids better get what they can now cuz they may not get crap later.


So who's Lisa again?

Sorry for the name drop without explanation. Lisa was my friend.

Scientology is gay.

Hetfield: Six_By_Nine: Oh, brother. Is it truly necessary to be on either side?

Not at all, but pinning the blame on Katie Holmes only kind of means you've chosen a side. Which I found weird.

Did you even bother to read the rest of that post? Why do I have to be on her side OR Scientology's side? Why can't I see her as a parasite looking to social climb AND Scientology being an anal wart on humanity? Surely both things can be true, right?

Seems to me like I'm not the one with problems picking sides.